Outrage grows after South Carolina officer throws student in classroom

[easyt65]

'Outrage grows after South Carolina officer throws student in classroom'
- LINK: Outrage grows after South Carolina officer tosses student - CNN.com

SUMMARY:
Girl disrupts the class and refuses to leave when told to by the teacher. She continues. The teacher calls the office to have the uniformed officer there at school come remove her. The officer tells her to stand up. She refuses. He tells her again. She refuses. He asks her if she is going to get up, or is she going to make him get her up. She refuses. He grabs the girl - she starts fighting the officer, refusing to stand up (DISOBEYING A POLICE OFFICER'S ORDERS). In the ensuing tussle her desk flips backwards, and she and the desk fall to the floor with the officer still holding on to her and the desk. He then grabs her by the collar/shirt, pulls her towards the front of the room as she is face down, and 'throws'/'tosses her towards the front. He then steps up and demands she give him her hands so he can place handcuffs on her and explains she is now under arrest. She refuses. He orders her to do this 9 (NINE) times with her refusing - disobeying him and fighting him the whole time - until he finally grabs her arms behind her back, puts the cuffs on her, and takes her out of the class room.

Many people have gone nuts over this.
The policeman has been placed on administration duty, meaning he doesn't get to go back to the school (or any school) but is still being allowed to sit a desk and work.

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Here are MY thoughts, looking at this as if I were the girl's father:
She was completely in the wrong for disrupting the class.

She should have obeyed the teacher and gone to the principal's office.

He was right in calling for the cop since she refused to stop and refused to obey.

I have no problem with the policeman trying to remove her from the chair as she disobeyed a policeman's orders...repeatedly.

She fought with him and in getting her out of the chair it flipped over - I still have no problem with it. SHE caused that to happen, not him, because of her disobedience.

I do have a problem with him dragging and tossing her by the collar. I understand he was very mad at this point - I would be, too - but still, that was 'excessive'.

I have no problem with him cuffing her and arresting her.

As a parent I would not have immediately rushed to condemn the policeman because it is more than obvious that this girl was being unruly, disruptive, belligerent, un-cooperative, disrespectful, refused to obey her elder/teacher, refused to comply with a police officer's orders - repeatedly, and fought (with) the officer, also known as 'resisting arrest'.

Putting the cop on administrative duty, maybe even never allowing him to pull duty at schools (maybe), is a great idea; however, I would have to admit as a parent 90% of this entire episode was 'my daughter's fault. I would be whoopin' her arse at home and going over EVERYTHING she did wrong to ensure it never happened again. Her behavior was embarrassing / pathetic / inexcusable.

...but that's just me.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

She needs to be expelled from the school and he needs to be expelled from the police force.

 

[easyt65]

She needs to be expelled from the school and he needs to be expelled from the police force.

I would not go against that decision, either. I can understand and could agree with that.

 

[Sunni Man]

She needs to be expelled from the school and he needs to be expelled from the police force.

Why the policeman?........he was just arresting an out of control teenager. .......

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

There is one more thing I would change. I would go back to the original system of the police department responds from their headquarters while the police officer stationed at the school calls in and asks for backup. Then the student is taken to jail until they are transferred to a juvenile detention center. The fact that this officer had to respond by himself is unacceptable. There should be at least two officers on any scene in order that each have someone backing them up. He was alone. The situation was out of control.

Proper procedure would be call for back up and wait for them to arrive. Arrest the girl and charge her with resisting arrest, attacking a police officer, whatever the charges may be and make sure she has a record. Let the parents pay for a lawyer, the court fees, damages done to the classroom furniture, etc.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

She needs to be expelled from the school and he needs to be expelled from the police force.

Why the policeman?........he was just arresting an out of control teenager. .......

I saw the video already, Sunni Man. It was excessive force. He should have stopped immediately and called for back up. Put her under arrest and charged her with resisting arrest and whatever other charges could be brought against her. Let her parents pay for a lawyer.

I am 4 square behind law enforcement. I was on their side with Ferguson and the other case in NY against the NYPD. I believe our law enforcement is the greatest in the land but this officer made a poor judgment call in how to handle her (the student).

 

[Delta4Embassy]

And the public outrage for a backtalking disobediant rebellious child to her teacher and then a uniformed police officer is...Where?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Here we go again. lowering the bar from being a threat to having an attitude as a reason police can and should strike you.

There's nothing she couldve said to deserve that. unless she had a picture of him taking it up the ass and showed the class. But that would be out of anger, which this cop showed.

Maybe his parents didnt teach him better than to choke, push down and throw kids?

 

[ClosedCaption]

He grabs the girl - she starts fighting the officer, refusing to stand up (DISOBEYING A POLICE OFFICER'S ORDERS).

Whoever watches the video will see that this statement above is bullshit unless getting choked is considered fighting

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

And the public outrage for a backtalking disobediant rebellious child to her teacher and then a uniformed police officer is...Where?

I agree with you. It was totally unacceptable and a clear sign of the state of our nation. When our young people witness our politicians lie through their teeth and get away with cold blooded murder (as in the case of Hillary Clinton) and then continue on a campaign to become president of the United States?! Without any public outrage?

They believe they can get away with anything too.

 

[ClosedCaption]

And the public outrage for a backtalking disobediant rebellious child to her teacher and then a uniformed police officer is...Where?

I agree with you. It was totally unacceptable and a clear sign of the state of our nation. When our young people witness our politicians lie through their teeth and get away with cold blooded murder (as in the case of Hillary Clinton) and then continue on a campaign to become president of the United States?! Without any public outrage?

They believe they can get away with anything too.

Are you referring to the trained officer or the teen?

 

[Sunni Man]

I saw the video already, Sunni Man. It was excessive force. He should have stopped immediately and called for back up.

That's absurd........why should a cop be required to call for back-up in order to arrest 1 belligerent teenage girl? .......

 

[easyt65]

He grabs the girl - she starts fighting the officer, refusing to stand up (DISOBEYING A POLICE OFFICER'S ORDERS).

Whoever watches the video will see that this statement above is bullshit unless getting choked is considered fighting

CC, are you saying she did NOT refuse to stand up and did NOT disobey the policeman's orders to do so?

 

[blastoff]

I would never act in such a manner towards any teacher, policeman, or other person of authority simply because when my father found out I would be in very very deep doo-doo.

 

[JakeStarkey]

She was arrested for disobeying the lawful instructions of the teacher and the officer. She was girl handed because she resisted arrest.

The officer acted appropriately in the situation.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

'Outrage grows after South Carolina officer throws student in classroom'
- LINK: Outrage grows after South Carolina officer tosses student - CNN.com

SUMMARY:
Girl disrupts the class and refuses to leave when told to by the teacher. She continues. The teacher calls the office to have the uniformed officer there at school come remove her. The officer tells her to stand up. She refuses. He tells her again. She refuses. He asks her if she is going to get up, or is she going to make him get her up. She refuses. He grabs the girl - she starts fighting the officer, refusing to stand up (DISOBEYING A POLICE OFFICER'S ORDERS). In the ensuing tussle her desk flips backwards, and she and the desk fall to the floor with the officer still holding on to her and the desk. He then grabs her by the collar/shirt, pulls her towards the front of the room as she is face down, and 'throws'/'tosses her towards the front. He then steps up and demands she give him her hands so he can place handcuffs on her and explains she is now under arrest. She refuses. He orders her to do this 9 (NINE) times with her refusing - disobeying him and fighting him the whole time - until he finally grabs her arms behind her back, puts the cuffs on her, and takes her out of the class room.

Many people have gone nuts over this.
The policeman has been placed on administration duty, meaning he doesn't get to go back to the school (or any school) but is still being allowed to sit a desk and work.

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Here are MY thoughts, looking at this as if I were the girl's father:
She was completely in the wrong for disrupting the class.

She should have obeyed the teacher and gone to the principal's office.

He was right in calling for the cop since she refused to stop and refused to obey.

I have no problem with the policeman trying to remove her from the chair as she disobeyed a policeman's orders...repeatedly.

She fought with him and in getting her out of the chair it flipped over - I still have no problem with it. SHE caused that to happen, not him, because of her disobedience.

I do have a problem with him dragging and tossing her by the collar. I understand he was very mad at this point - I would be, too - but still, that was 'excessive'.

I have no problem with him cuffing her and arresting her.

As a parent I would not have immediately rushed to condemn the policeman because it is more than obvious that this girl was being unruly, disruptive, belligerent, un-cooperative, disrespectful, refused to obey her elder/teacher, refused to comply with a police officer's orders - repeatedly, and fought (with) the officer, also known as 'resisting arrest'.

Putting the cop on administrative duty, maybe even never allowing him to pull duty at schools (maybe), is a great idea; however, I would have to admit as a parent 90% of this entire episode was 'my daughter's fault. I would be whoopin' her arse at home and going over EVERYTHING she did wrong to ensure it never happened again. Her behavior was embarrassing / pathetic / inexcusable.

...but that's just me.

If it had been my classroom I would have contacted the officer and spoke to him outside of the classroom. I would have had him stand at the classroom door as I escorted the students out of the classroom leaving behind the student and the officer - waiting for backup to arrive. I would have left her in that chair until back up arrived and without any students in the classroom? There would be no video of the arrest.

The school teacher can be called as a witness in court.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

I see the resident bleeding hearts are once again siding with a belligerent teen.

 

[JakeStarkey]

'Outrage grows after South Carolina officer throws student in classroom'
- LINK: Outrage grows after South Carolina officer tosses student - CNN.com

SUMMARY:
Girl disrupts the class and refuses to leave when told to by the teacher. She continues. The teacher calls the office to have the uniformed officer there at school come remove her. The officer tells her to stand up. She refuses. He tells her again. She refuses. He asks her if she is going to get up, or is she going to make him get her up. She refuses. He grabs the girl - she starts fighting the officer, refusing to stand up (DISOBEYING A POLICE OFFICER'S ORDERS). In the ensuing tussle her desk flips backwards, and she and the desk fall to the floor with the officer still holding on to her and the desk. He then grabs her by the collar/shirt, pulls her towards the front of the room as she is face down, and 'throws'/'tosses her towards the front. He then steps up and demands she give him her hands so he can place handcuffs on her and explains she is now under arrest. She refuses. He orders her to do this 9 (NINE) times with her refusing - disobeying him and fighting him the whole time - until he finally grabs her arms behind her back, puts the cuffs on her, and takes her out of the class room.

Many people have gone nuts over this.
The policeman has been placed on administration duty, meaning he doesn't get to go back to the school (or any school) but is still being allowed to sit a desk and work.

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Here are MY thoughts, looking at this as if I were the girl's father:
She was completely in the wrong for disrupting the class.

She should have obeyed the teacher and gone to the principal's office.

He was right in calling for the cop since she refused to stop and refused to obey.

I have no problem with the policeman trying to remove her from the chair as she disobeyed a policeman's orders...repeatedly.

She fought with him and in getting her out of the chair it flipped over - I still have no problem with it. SHE caused that to happen, not him, because of her disobedience.

I do have a problem with him dragging and tossing her by the collar. I understand he was very mad at this point - I would be, too - but still, that was 'excessive'.

I have no problem with him cuffing her and arresting her.

As a parent I would not have immediately rushed to condemn the policeman because it is more than obvious that this girl was being unruly, disruptive, belligerent, un-cooperative, disrespectful, refused to obey her elder/teacher, refused to comply with a police officer's orders - repeatedly, and fought (with) the officer, also known as 'resisting arrest'.

Putting the cop on administrative duty, maybe even never allowing him to pull duty at schools (maybe), is a great idea; however, I would have to admit as a parent 90% of this entire episode was 'my daughter's fault. I would be whoopin' her arse at home and going over EVERYTHING she did wrong to ensure it never happened again. Her behavior was embarrassing / pathetic / inexcusable.

...but that's just me.

If it had been my classroom I would have contacted the officer and spoke to him outside of the classroom. I would have had him stand at the classroom door as I escorted the students out of the classroom leaving the student and the officer waiting for backup to arrive. I would have left her in that chair until back up arrived and without any students in the classroom? There would be no video of the arrest.

The school teacher can be called as a witness in court.

That makes sense; however, it is the officer's call.

 

[Sunni Man]

7 years of the Obama administration's racial division and disrespect of law enforcement officers.

Has created a generation of young feral black's who feel they are exempt from having to obey the police or the law. .......

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I saw the video already, Sunni Man. It was excessive force. He should have stopped immediately and called for back up.

That's absurd........why should a cop be required to call for back-up in order to arrest 1 belligerent teenage girl? .......

To the best of my knowledge it is unheard of for one officer to answer a call for help. Why should it be any different at a school?

Sunni man, the girl was looking for an audience. She knew people in the classroom had camera phones. The first thing they should have done would be to remove all the students from that room (therein taking out the camera phones). Leave her there with the officer - sitting calmly - waiting for the back up to arrive! I've seen video footage of 6 officers needed to move a prisoner from one cell to another! It depends on the situation. One on one does not always work in a case of someone resisting arrest. I've seen students bigger than their teachers, Sunni Man. Let's not get hung up on her age. She obviously knew what she was doing.