Our economy owed to trump?

[Papageorgio]

When the economy tanks, Trump will blame someone else. It's what he does.

With Trump, it's always someone else's fault

When the tech-stock bubble was going up the Left Wingers were saying that Billyboy Clinton was an economic genius. But when tech-stock bubble burst and the stock market tanked and we went into a recession, they blamed Bush for it.

Which recession, George the dumber governed over 2 recessions. That takes talent.

So the recession that started in March of 2001, less than 45 days after Bush was inaugurated is on Bush, however the economic growth 18 months after Trump was inaugurated is on Obama?

Seems like more partisan BS to me.

That's 'cause you're completely controlled by your biases. The chaos of hanging chads and Bush/Cheney fear mongering aided in the recession. The first thing out of their mouth was to attack Clinton's policies and promise tax cuts, because they claimed the economy was in trouble.

So, if the office of the President was then the cause of the recession, as you imply, how about this one:

Monetary Policy and the Housing Bubble

In 1998 through 2000 stocks for dot coms were sky high some overvalued by 300 to 1 over earning and people were borrowing 150% of their equity on their home during that time. Many economist were concerned about people over leveraging their homes and the dot com bubble bursting and those predictions started in 98 and 99.

In 2000 the dotcom Super Bowl occurred by the end of 2000 most were in financial trouble, one even closing its doors by the end of 2000.

There was going to be a market correction, it had to happen.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

When the tech-stock bubble was going up the Left Wingers were saying that Billyboy Clinton was an economic genius. But when tech-stock bubble burst and the stock market tanked and we went into a recession, they blamed Bush for it.

Which recession, George the dumber governed over 2 recessions. That takes talent.

So the recession that started in March of 2001, less than 45 days after Bush was inaugurated is on Bush, however the economic growth 18 months after Trump was inaugurated is on Obama?

Seems like more partisan BS to me.

Bush was a disaster, that isn’t partisan...

I agree, however to blame him for the economy after less than 45 days into his term and then claim Trump isn't responsible for the economy 18 months is, is still partisan BS.

True. But the current economy is being greatly exaggerated by partisans. First quarter was only 2.2% growth, not really booming. Wages still stagnant. Unemployment low, but the same partisans said it’s about the participation rate, which is still really low. Stock market been unstable since trump policies have really been in effect....

low unemployment leads to higher wages, give it more time

 

[Papageorgio]

When the economy tanks, Trump will blame someone else. It's what he does.

With Trump, it's always someone else's fault

When the tech-stock bubble was going up the Left Wingers were saying that Billyboy Clinton was an economic genius. But when tech-stock bubble burst and the stock market tanked and we went into a recession, they blamed Bush for it.

I think that what most people blame Bush for was using the recession as a smokescreen for tax cuts that would fail to accomplish the stated goal of stimulating the economy out of recession, but would contribute to long term harms, such as increased public debt and increased income inequality. That, contrary to his claims, the majority of working Americans wouldn't see their finances improve but stagnate or get worse, and that in general his economic policies were reckless.

What you seem to be referring to was having your hypocrisy pointed out. During the Bush presidency many on the right engaged in contradictory arguments about blame/credit for developments in the economy. Economic strength during Clinton's term was often cited as being caused by Reagan policies, allegedly because economic results need time to mature. The same reasoning was used to blame Clinton for the 2001 recession. But the strong aspects of the post-recession Bush era economy were squarely attributed to Bush, abandoning the deferred maturity hypothesis in favor of emphasizing the fact that Bush was the sitting President at that precise time. So the point was that you have to be consistent.[/QUOTE

So the recession that started in March of 2001, less than 45 days after Bush was inaugurated is on Bush, however the economic growth 18 months after Trump was inaugurated is on Obama?

Seems like more partisan BS to me.

Are the 2 wars started by George the dumber while cutting taxes for the wealthy not on him either. That's right nothing is a rethugicons fault is it partisan hack.

Did I say anything like that? I asked you specifically about the first recession and you deflected which is what I thought you'd do. I understand why you had to deflect.

The dumber exasperated the first of the two recessions he governed over by starting 2 wars and cutting taxes for the uber wealthy. No deflection now you go on and deflect.

And to be honest presidents have little to do with recessions and recoveries. They are business cycles, but policies they put forward can make things better or worse. Guess what the dumber did, hack.

The recession started in March 2001 do you blame Bush for the 2001 recession.

The first attack on the WTC occurred weeks into Clinton's first term. Do you blame G. H. W. Bush or Clinton for this event? G. W. Bush had Nine months before 9-11, who do we blame for this?

The blame game is a fool's errand for those who do not know history, and for those who seek to rewrite past events.

I blame terrorist for terrorism.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

When the economy tanks, Trump will blame someone else. It's what he does.

With Trump, it's always someone else's fault

When the tech-stock bubble was going up the Left Wingers were saying that Billyboy Clinton was an economic genius. But when tech-stock bubble burst and the stock market tanked and we went into a recession, they blamed Bush for it.

Which recession, George the dumber governed over 2 recessions. That takes talent.

So the recession that started in March of 2001, less than 45 days after Bush was inaugurated is on Bush, however the economic growth 18 months after Trump was inaugurated is on Obama?

Seems like more partisan BS to me.

Are the 2 wars started by George the dumber while cutting taxes for the wealthy not on him either. That's right nothing is a rethugicons fault is it partisan hack.

Wow the Left Wing Traitors are still very bitter about the defeat of the Saddam Regime

 

[Brain357]

Which recession, George the dumber governed over 2 recessions. That takes talent.

So the recession that started in March of 2001, less than 45 days after Bush was inaugurated is on Bush, however the economic growth 18 months after Trump was inaugurated is on Obama?

Seems like more partisan BS to me.

Bush was a disaster, that isn’t partisan...

I agree, however to blame him for the economy after less than 45 days into his term and then claim Trump isn't responsible for the economy 18 months is, is still partisan BS.

True. But the current economy is being greatly exaggerated by partisans. First quarter was only 2.2% growth, not really booming. Wages still stagnant. Unemployment low, but the same partisans said it’s about the participation rate, which is still really low. Stock market been unstable since trump policies have really been in effect....

low unemployment leads to higher wages, give it more time

Normally it should, but we have had low unemployment since Obama... there is something wrong with this economy.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

When the tech-stock bubble was going up the Left Wingers were saying that Billyboy Clinton was an economic genius. But when tech-stock bubble burst and the stock market tanked and we went into a recession, they blamed Bush for it.

Which recession, George the dumber governed over 2 recessions. That takes talent.

So the recession that started in March of 2001, less than 45 days after Bush was inaugurated is on Bush, however the economic growth 18 months after Trump was inaugurated is on Obama?

Seems like more partisan BS to me.

Are the 2 wars started by George the dumber while cutting taxes for the wealthy not on him either. That's right nothing is a rethugicons fault is it partisan hack.

Did I say anything like that? I asked you specifically about the first recession and you deflected which is what I thought you'd do. I understand why you had to deflect.

The dumber exasperated the first of the two recessions he governed over by starting 2 wars and cutting taxes for the uber wealthy. No deflection now you go on and deflect.

And to be honest presidents have little to do with recessions and recoveries. They are business cycles, but policies they put forward can make things better or worse. Guess what the dumber did, hack.

Actually Bush cut everyone's taxes and that got us out of Billyboy Clinton's Tech-Bubble recession, until Billyboy's Real Estate Bubble caused the Great Recession.

 

[Papageorgio]

So the recession that started in March of 2001, less than 45 days after Bush was inaugurated is on Bush, however the economic growth 18 months after Trump was inaugurated is on Obama?

Seems like more partisan BS to me.

Bush was a disaster, that isn’t partisan...

I agree, however to blame him for the economy after less than 45 days into his term and then claim Trump isn't responsible for the economy 18 months is, is still partisan BS.

True. But the current economy is being greatly exaggerated by partisans. First quarter was only 2.2% growth, not really booming. Wages still stagnant. Unemployment low, but the same partisans said it’s about the participation rate, which is still really low. Stock market been unstable since trump policies have really been in effect....

I agree with that also. I think we are an event or two away from disaster.

Let’s hope not.

I hope not either however there are signs of trouble. People have very little savings, credit is growing, that is a bad sign. Unemployment is dropping however wages seem to be stagnant, threats of inflation and higher interest rates are hurting us also, when they actually do hit we will be hurting.

 

[Wry Catcher]

When the economy tanks, Trump will blame someone else. It's what he does.

With Trump, it's always someone else's fault

When the tech-stock bubble was going up the Left Wingers were saying that Billyboy Clinton was an economic genius. But when tech-stock bubble burst and the stock market tanked and we went into a recession, they blamed Bush for it.

Which recession, George the dumber governed over 2 recessions. That takes talent.

So the recession that started in March of 2001, less than 45 days after Bush was inaugurated is on Bush, however the economic growth 18 months after Trump was inaugurated is on Obama?

Seems like more partisan BS to me.

That's 'cause you're completely controlled by your biases. The chaos of hanging chads and Bush/Cheney fear mongering aided in the recession. The first thing out of their mouth was to attack Clinton's policies and promise tax cuts, because they claimed the economy was in trouble.

So, if the office of the President was then the cause of the recession, as you imply, how about this one:

Monetary Policy and the Housing Bubble

In 1998 through 2000 stocks for dot coms were sky high some overvalued by 300 to 1 over earning and people were borrowing 150% of their equity on their home during that time. Many economist were concerned about people over leveraging their homes and the dot com bubble bursting and those predictions started in 98 and 99.

In 2000 the dotcom Super Bowl occurred by the end of 2000 most were in financial trouble, one even closing its doors by the end of 2000.

There was going to be a market correction, it had to happen.

And yet it was no where near the crisis which Obama inherited, and something G.W. Bush warned us about several years before the crash.

 

[Papageorgio]

Which recession, George the dumber governed over 2 recessions. That takes talent.

So the recession that started in March of 2001, less than 45 days after Bush was inaugurated is on Bush, however the economic growth 18 months after Trump was inaugurated is on Obama?

Seems like more partisan BS to me.

Are the 2 wars started by George the dumber while cutting taxes for the wealthy not on him either. That's right nothing is a rethugicons fault is it partisan hack.

Did I say anything like that? I asked you specifically about the first recession and you deflected which is what I thought you'd do. I understand why you had to deflect.

The dumber exasperated the first of the two recessions he governed over by starting 2 wars and cutting taxes for the uber wealthy. No deflection now you go on and deflect.

And to be honest presidents have little to do with recessions and recoveries. They are business cycles, but policies they put forward can make things better or worse. Guess what the dumber did, hack.

Actually Bush cut everyone's taxes and that got us out of Billyboy Clinton's Tech-Bubble recession, until Billyboy's Real Estate Bubble caused the Great Recession.

There was more to the 2001 recession then just Clinton, there were some bad economic policies that led us down a bad road.

 

[Aldo Raine]

When the economy tanks, Trump will blame someone else. It's what he does.

With Trump, it's always someone else's fault

When the tech-stock bubble was going up the Left Wingers were saying that Billyboy Clinton was an economic genius. But when tech-stock bubble burst and the stock market tanked and we went into a recession, they blamed Bush for it.

Which recession, George the dumber governed over 2 recessions. That takes talent.

So the recession that started in March of 2001, less than 45 days after Bush was inaugurated is on Bush, however the economic growth 18 months after Trump was inaugurated is on Obama?

Seems like more partisan BS to me.

Are the 2 wars started by George the dumber while cutting taxes for the wealthy not on him either. That's right nothing is a rethugicons fault is it partisan hack.

Wow the Left Wing Traitors are still very bitter about the defeat of the Saddam Regime

I didn't vote for her, try again sweetie.

 

[Fang]

Our low unemployment rate didn't happen because of Trump. Nevertheless, dumb ass right wingers think these things did. Trump told them the unemployment rate was 20%, maybe 40%, they believed it, because they're stupid. Now, the same office that reported unemployment of 4.5% under Obama that Trump said was false reports 4%, and it's instantly true.


The stock markets rose 149% during Obama, but by talking to a right winger you'd think they'd fallen 90%. Then the markets rise further under Trump, and they fall on their knees to pray thanks to Him, like he's a God. Trump's tax cuts put an additional charge in the economy that it didn't need, at a cost of hundreds of billions of revenue to the treasury every year, and now deficits are expanding at a time they should be contracting.


If we have a trillion dollar deficit in a strong economy, what are we going to get when the economy inevitably rolls over? We're going to get $2 trillion. We will be fucked.

Such an odd argument for Liberals. In order to give Obama credit for economy today they have to admit it's doing great under Trump.

Remember, 4 years into Obama's presidency it was still Bush's fault. No doubt 4 years into Trump's presidency it'll be Obama's success.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Which recession, George the dumber governed over 2 recessions. That takes talent.

So the recession that started in March of 2001, less than 45 days after Bush was inaugurated is on Bush, however the economic growth 18 months after Trump was inaugurated is on Obama?

Seems like more partisan BS to me.

Are the 2 wars started by George the dumber while cutting taxes for the wealthy not on him either. That's right nothing is a rethugicons fault is it partisan hack.

Did I say anything like that? I asked you specifically about the first recession and you deflected which is what I thought you'd do. I understand why you had to deflect.

The dumber exasperated the first of the two recessions he governed over by starting 2 wars and cutting taxes for the uber wealthy. No deflection now you go on and deflect.

And to be honest presidents have little to do with recessions and recoveries. They are business cycles, but policies they put forward can make things better or worse. Guess what the dumber did, hack.

Actually Bush cut everyone's taxes and that got us out of Billyboy Clinton's Tech-Bubble recession, until Billyboy's Real Estate Bubble caused the Great Recession.

So the 2 wars while cutting taxes for the uber wealthy actually helped the economy? Here's your sign.

 

[Papageorgio]

When the tech-stock bubble was going up the Left Wingers were saying that Billyboy Clinton was an economic genius. But when tech-stock bubble burst and the stock market tanked and we went into a recession, they blamed Bush for it.

Which recession, George the dumber governed over 2 recessions. That takes talent.

So the recession that started in March of 2001, less than 45 days after Bush was inaugurated is on Bush, however the economic growth 18 months after Trump was inaugurated is on Obama?

Seems like more partisan BS to me.

That's 'cause you're completely controlled by your biases. The chaos of hanging chads and Bush/Cheney fear mongering aided in the recession. The first thing out of their mouth was to attack Clinton's policies and promise tax cuts, because they claimed the economy was in trouble.

So, if the office of the President was then the cause of the recession, as you imply, how about this one:

Monetary Policy and the Housing Bubble

In 1998 through 2000 stocks for dot coms were sky high some overvalued by 300 to 1 over earning and people were borrowing 150% of their equity on their home during that time. Many economist were concerned about people over leveraging their homes and the dot com bubble bursting and those predictions started in 98 and 99.

In 2000 the dotcom Super Bowl occurred by the end of 2000 most were in financial trouble, one even closing its doors by the end of 2000.

There was going to be a market correction, it had to happen.

And yet it was no where near the crisis which Obama inherited, and something G.W. Bush warned us about several years before the crash.

We are talking about 2001, not 2008. However, 2008 was a product of bad policies over several decades. Many economist warned us about 2008 and in fact some were surprised the attacks on 911 didn't send us into the deep recession then instead of holding off until 2008.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Which recession, George the dumber governed over 2 recessions. That takes talent.

So the recession that started in March of 2001, less than 45 days after Bush was inaugurated is on Bush, however the economic growth 18 months after Trump was inaugurated is on Obama?

Seems like more partisan BS to me.

That's 'cause you're completely controlled by your biases. The chaos of hanging chads and Bush/Cheney fear mongering aided in the recession. The first thing out of their mouth was to attack Clinton's policies and promise tax cuts, because they claimed the economy was in trouble.

So, if the office of the President was then the cause of the recession, as you imply, how about this one:

Monetary Policy and the Housing Bubble

In 1998 through 2000 stocks for dot coms were sky high some overvalued by 300 to 1 over earning and people were borrowing 150% of their equity on their home during that time. Many economist were concerned about people over leveraging their homes and the dot com bubble bursting and those predictions started in 98 and 99.

In 2000 the dotcom Super Bowl occurred by the end of 2000 most were in financial trouble, one even closing its doors by the end of 2000.

There was going to be a market correction, it had to happen.

And yet it was no where near the crisis which Obama inherited, and something G.W. Bush warned us about several years before the crash.

We are talking about 2001, not 2008. However, 2008 was a product of bad policies over several decades. Many economist warned us about 2008 and in fact some were surprised the attacks on 911 didn't send us into the deep recession then instead of holding off until 2008.

A yup yup.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

So the recession that started in March of 2001, less than 45 days after Bush was inaugurated is on Bush, however the economic growth 18 months after Trump was inaugurated is on Obama?

Seems like more partisan BS to me.

Are the 2 wars started by George the dumber while cutting taxes for the wealthy not on him either. That's right nothing is a rethugicons fault is it partisan hack.

Did I say anything like that? I asked you specifically about the first recession and you deflected which is what I thought you'd do. I understand why you had to deflect.

The dumber exasperated the first of the two recessions he governed over by starting 2 wars and cutting taxes for the uber wealthy. No deflection now you go on and deflect.

And to be honest presidents have little to do with recessions and recoveries. They are business cycles, but policies they put forward can make things better or worse. Guess what the dumber did, hack.

Actually Bush cut everyone's taxes and that got us out of Billyboy Clinton's Tech-Bubble recession, until Billyboy's Real Estate Bubble caused the Great Recession.

So the 2 wars while cutting taxes for the uber wealthy actually helped the economy? Here's your sign.

Oh, you didn't know that the real estate bubble caused the Great Recession?
There are several books available that explain it.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Are the 2 wars started by George the dumber while cutting taxes for the wealthy not on him either. That's right nothing is a rethugicons fault is it partisan hack.

Did I say anything like that? I asked you specifically about the first recession and you deflected which is what I thought you'd do. I understand why you had to deflect.

The dumber exasperated the first of the two recessions he governed over by starting 2 wars and cutting taxes for the uber wealthy. No deflection now you go on and deflect.

And to be honest presidents have little to do with recessions and recoveries. They are business cycles, but policies they put forward can make things better or worse. Guess what the dumber did, hack.

Actually Bush cut everyone's taxes and that got us out of Billyboy Clinton's Tech-Bubble recession, until Billyboy's Real Estate Bubble caused the Great Recession.

So the 2 wars while cutting taxes for the uber wealthy actually helped the economy? Here's your sign.

Oh, you didn't know that the real estate bubble caused the Great Recession?
There are several books available that explain it.

More in evolved than just the real estate bubble, although certainly the biggest cause.

 

[NightFox]

When the economy tanks, Trump will blame someone else. It's what he does.

With Trump, it's always someone else's fault

When the tech-stock bubble was going up the Left Wingers were saying that Billyboy Clinton was an economic genius. But when tech-stock bubble burst and the stock market tanked and we went into a recession, they blamed Bush for it.

Which recession, George the dumber governed over 2 recessions. That takes talent.

Doesn't take any talent, it's just a matter of Prince George's poor timing relative to the business cycle.

And starting 2 wars while cutting taxes for the uber wealthy. A special kind of stupid.

Uh-huh, thanks for parrot impression, spot on.

In President Gunslingers defense at least he was aware that he didn't have a clue as to what he was doing, which is why he let Cheney and his Merry Band of Neocon thugs run things.

 

[TheDude]

Our low unemployment rate didn't happen because of Trump. Nevertheless, dumb ass right wingers think these things did. Trump told them the unemployment rate was 20%, maybe 40%, they believed it, because they're stupid. Now, the same office that reported unemployment of 4.5% under Obama that Trump said was false reports 4%, and it's instantly true.


The stock markets rose 149% during Obama, but by talking to a right winger you'd think they'd fallen 90%. Then the markets rise further under Trump, and they fall on their knees to pray thanks to Him, like he's a God. Trump's tax cuts put an additional charge in the economy that it didn't need, at a cost of hundreds of billions of revenue to the treasury every year, and now deficits are expanding at a time they should be contracting.


If we have a trillion dollar deficit in a strong economy, what are we going to get when the economy inevitably rolls over? We're going to get $2 trillion. We will be fucked.

Our low unemployment rate didn't happen because of Trump. Nevertheless, dumb ass right wingers think these things did. You probably shouldn't call people dumb asses when in the attempt you appear as a dumb ass. Unemployment is singular, things is plural.

Trump told them the unemployment rate was 20%, maybe 40%, they believed it, because they're stupid. No, you're short-sighted. First off Trump exaggerates the truth, many of us recognize this. Second, he probably wasn't off by much, considering unemployment only considers those who are just recently unemployed.

Now, the same office that reported unemployment of 4.5% under Obama that Trump said was false reports 4%, and it's instantly true. Neat

The stock markets rose 149% during Obama, but by talking to a right winger you'd think they'd fallen 90%. Please provide a single example.

Then the markets rise further under Trump Rose, DUMB ASS.

and they fall on their knees to pray thanks to Him, like he's a God. This is code for the OP is a very hateful person. He disguises it under false accusations.

Trump's tax cuts put an additional charge in the economy that it didn't need, at a cost of hundreds of billions of revenue to the treasury every year, and now deficits are expanding at a time they should be contracting. You're too short on cause and effect to speak on this subject.

If we have a trillion dollar deficit in a strong economy, what are we going to get when the economy inevitably rolls over? We're going to get $2 trillion. We will be fucked. Believe it or not, governments have the ability to adjust. Incidentally, last I checked debt has slowed since O'bummer left office.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Are the 2 wars started by George the dumber while cutting taxes for the wealthy not on him either. That's right nothing is a rethugicons fault is it partisan hack.

Did I say anything like that? I asked you specifically about the first recession and you deflected which is what I thought you'd do. I understand why you had to deflect.

The dumber exasperated the first of the two recessions he governed over by starting 2 wars and cutting taxes for the uber wealthy. No deflection now you go on and deflect.

And to be honest presidents have little to do with recessions and recoveries. They are business cycles, but policies they put forward can make things better or worse. Guess what the dumber did, hack.

Actually Bush cut everyone's taxes and that got us out of Billyboy Clinton's Tech-Bubble recession, until Billyboy's Real Estate Bubble caused the Great Recession.

So the 2 wars while cutting taxes for the uber wealthy actually helped the economy? Here's your sign.

Oh, you didn't know that the real estate bubble caused the Great Recession?
There are several books available that explain it.

Thank you Simple Simon, your analysis of economic history is so clear, concise and informative.

SARCASM ALERT

 

[Brain357]

Our low unemployment rate didn't happen because of Trump. Nevertheless, dumb ass right wingers think these things did. Trump told them the unemployment rate was 20%, maybe 40%, they believed it, because they're stupid. Now, the same office that reported unemployment of 4.5% under Obama that Trump said was false reports 4%, and it's instantly true.


The stock markets rose 149% during Obama, but by talking to a right winger you'd think they'd fallen 90%. Then the markets rise further under Trump, and they fall on their knees to pray thanks to Him, like he's a God. Trump's tax cuts put an additional charge in the economy that it didn't need, at a cost of hundreds of billions of revenue to the treasury every year, and now deficits are expanding at a time they should be contracting.


If we have a trillion dollar deficit in a strong economy, what are we going to get when the economy inevitably rolls over? We're going to get $2 trillion. We will be fucked.

Our low unemployment rate didn't happen because of Trump. Nevertheless, dumb ass right wingers think these things did. You probably shouldn't call people dumb asses when in the attempt you appear as a dumb ass. Unemployment is singular, things is plural.

Trump told them the unemployment rate was 20%, maybe 40%, they believed it, because they're stupid. No, you're short-sighted. First off Trump exaggerates the truth, many of us recognize this. Second, he probably wasn't off by much, considering unemployment only considers those who are just recently unemployed.

Now, the same office that reported unemployment of 4.5% under Obama that Trump said was false reports 4%, and it's instantly true. Neat

The stock markets rose 149% during Obama, but by talking to a right winger you'd think they'd fallen 90%. Please provide a single example.

Then the markets rise further under Trump Rose, DUMB ASS.

and they fall on their knees to pray thanks to Him, like he's a God. This is code for the OP is a very hateful person. He disguises it under false accusations.

Trump's tax cuts put an additional charge in the economy that it didn't need, at a cost of hundreds of billions of revenue to the treasury every year, and now deficits are expanding at a time they should be contracting. You're too short on cause and effect to speak on this subject.

If we have a trillion dollar deficit in a strong economy, what are we going to get when the economy inevitably rolls over? We're going to get $2 trillion. We will be fucked. Believe it or not, governments have the ability to adjust. Incidentally, last I checked debt has slowed since O'bummer left office.

Deficits are increasing.