Oops. Looks like Pena Nieto and Trump had two different conversations...

So, for months, and months, Trump has said that Mexico is going to "pay for" his wall. Not only has he said that, but he ridiculed Pena Nieto when he made it clear he wouldn't pay for it. Trump had a chance to let Pena Nieto what he is going to do, and he wussed out.

Worse than wussed out, either Trump lied, Pna Nieto lied, or he, and Pena Nieto were involved in two different conversations.

Trump said, specifically, at the press conference:

"We did discus the wall, we didn't discuss payment of the wall," Trump told reporters at a brief press conference alongside Peña Nieto after their meeting. "That will be for a later date."

Except, Pena Nieto, apparently discussed paying for the wall:

"At the start of my conversation with Donald Trump I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall," Peña Nieto tweeted in Spanish from his official account afterwards. "After that, the conversation moved on to other topics and unfolded in a respectful manner."

So, actually, it turns out Trump didn't lie. They didn't discuss the Wall; The Mexican President told Trump how it's going to be, and Trump sat there, and took it like a bitch.




That is all spin on your part.


As candidate it is not time to start formal negotiations.


And if he HAD started such negotiations, you would be here attacking him to speaking for American before he won.
Sure. That's how that went. That's why he lied about who is going to pay for it not coming up.


Why are you being so dishonest and making such blanket statements based on nothing but your hatred?


Trump is a CANDIDATE. IT would be absurd for him to start negotiations as though he was representing the United States.


He let the moron Nieto grandstand a little for his Mexican voters.


If Trump wins, that is when the negotiations start and when Trump gives his response.


Nieto is not going to like it.
Then why lie about it? Why pretend that it didn't even "come up"? Why not just honestly say, President Pena Neito voiced his position, and we will have further conversations? The only reason to lie about it was that Trump knows that the President of Mexico shut him down, and he did not want that to be publicly known.
 
So, for months, and months, Trump has said that Mexico is going to "pay for" his wall. Not only has he said that, but he ridiculed Pena Nieto when he made it clear he wouldn't pay for it. Trump had a chance to let Pena Nieto what he is going to do, and he wussed out.

Worse than wussed out, either Trump lied, Pna Nieto lied, or he, and Pena Nieto were involved in two different conversations.

Trump said, specifically, at the press conference:

"We did discus the wall, we didn't discuss payment of the wall," Trump told reporters at a brief press conference alongside Peña Nieto after their meeting. "That will be for a later date."

Except, Pena Nieto, apparently discussed paying for the wall:

"At the start of my conversation with Donald Trump I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall," Peña Nieto tweeted in Spanish from his official account afterwards. "After that, the conversation moved on to other topics and unfolded in a respectful manner."

So, actually, it turns out Trump didn't lie. They didn't discuss the Wall; The Mexican President told Trump how it's going to be, and Trump sat there, and took it like a bitch.




That is all spin on your part.


As candidate it is not time to start formal negotiations.


And if he HAD started such negotiations, you would be here attacking him to speaking for American before he won.
Sure. That's how that went. That's why he lied about who is going to pay for it not coming up.


Why are you being so dishonest and making such blanket statements based on nothing but your hatred?


Trump is a CANDIDATE. IT would be absurd for him to start negotiations as though he was representing the United States.


He let the moron Nieto grandstand a little for his Mexican voters.


If Trump wins, that is when the negotiations start and when Trump gives his response.


Nieto is not going to like it.
Then why lie about it? Why pretend that it didn't even "come up"? Why not just honestly say, President Pena Neito voiced his position, and we will have further conversations? The only reason to lie about it was that Trump knows that the President of Mexico shut him down, and he did not want that to be publicly known.

President Pena Neito voiced his opinion on who pays for the wall. He certainly agreed there is a need for one. Hillary will change his mind if she wins. She is all for a few million more illegal immigrants, more drugs for the dopers and more guns for the cartels in Mexico.
 
IMO Nieto screwed up badly.

His approval rating with his people is completely in the tank, so he tried to improve his stature on the international stage, thinking the rub off would help him at home, by inviting the two American presidential candidates, probably assuming Trump wouldn't have the cojones to venture into the belly of the beast but if Hillary came they could have a Trump bashfest and both look good. But it blew up in his face when fatso failed to take advantage of a great opportunity and Trump instead brought his bull-sized balls right to him and ended up owning him, according to sage 'journalist' Jorge Ramos and others. And Nieto's ranking among his people sinks even lower. Bien hecho, Enrique!
 
So, for months, and months, Trump has said that Mexico is going to "pay for" his wall. Not only has he said that, but he ridiculed Pena Nieto when he made it clear he wouldn't pay for it. Trump had a chance to let Pena Nieto what he is going to do, and he wussed out.

Worse than wussed out, either Trump lied, Pna Nieto lied, or he, and Pena Nieto were involved in two different conversations.

Trump said, specifically, at the press conference:

"We did discus the wall, we didn't discuss payment of the wall," Trump told reporters at a brief press conference alongside Peña Nieto after their meeting. "That will be for a later date."

Except, Pena Nieto, apparently discussed paying for the wall:

"At the start of my conversation with Donald Trump I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall," Peña Nieto tweeted in Spanish from his official account afterwards. "After that, the conversation moved on to other topics and unfolded in a respectful manner."

So, actually, it turns out Trump didn't lie. They didn't discuss the Wall; The Mexican President told Trump how it's going to be, and Trump sat there, and took it like a bitch.




That is all spin on your part.


As candidate it is not time to start formal negotiations.


And if he HAD started such negotiations, you would be here attacking him to speaking for American before he won.
Sure. That's how that went. That's why he lied about who is going to pay for it not coming up.


Why are you being so dishonest and making such blanket statements based on nothing but your hatred?


Trump is a CANDIDATE. IT would be absurd for him to start negotiations as though he was representing the United States.


He let the moron Nieto grandstand a little for his Mexican voters.


If Trump wins, that is when the negotiations start and when Trump gives his response.


Nieto is not going to like it.
Then why lie about it? Why pretend that it didn't even "come up"? Why not just honestly say, President Pena Neito voiced his position, and we will have further conversations? The only reason to lie about it was that Trump knows that the President of Mexico shut him down, and he did not want that to be publicly known.


From your op.


"We did discus the wall, we didn't discuss payment of the wall," Trump told reporters at a brief press conference alongside Peña Nieto after their meeting. "That will be for a later date."



Your partisan-ship is seriously degrading your reading comprehension.


THe President of Mexico making a Statement is not "shutting down" Trump.


It was grandstanding for his citizens.


Trump was not going to begin negotiations at a point in time when he has NO LEVERAGE.


Trump was met by the leader of a nation. The President of Mexico said he was an important person.


That undermines the Left's lies that he is a joke and has no chance of winning.


This was a win for Trump, and your Thought Masters are desperately trying to spin this to hide that fact from the voters.


Are you ok with supporting dishonest propaganda? Because that it what you are doing.
 
IMO Nieto screwed up badly.

His approval rating with his people is completely in the tank, so he tried to improve his stature on the international stage, thinking the rub off would help him at home, by inviting the two American presidential candidates, probably assuming Trump wouldn't have the cojones to venture into the belly of the beast but if Hillary came they could have a Trump bashfest and both look good. But it blew up in his face when fatso failed to take advantage of a great opportunity and Trump instead brought his bull-sized balls right to him and ended up owning him, according to sage 'journalist' Jorge Ramos and others. And Nieto's ranking among his people sinks even lower. Bien hecho, Enrique!



That sounds like a very good analysis.
 
So, for months, and months, Trump has said that Mexico is going to "pay for" his wall. Not only has he said that, but he ridiculed Pena Nieto when he made it clear he wouldn't pay for it. Trump had a chance to let Pena Nieto what he is going to do, and he wussed out.

Worse than wussed out, either Trump lied, Pna Nieto lied, or he, and Pena Nieto were involved in two different conversations.

Trump said, specifically, at the press conference:

"We did discus the wall, we didn't discuss payment of the wall," Trump told reporters at a brief press conference alongside Peña Nieto after their meeting. "That will be for a later date."

Except, Pena Nieto, apparently discussed paying for the wall:

"At the start of my conversation with Donald Trump I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall," Peña Nieto tweeted in Spanish from his official account afterwards. "After that, the conversation moved on to other topics and unfolded in a respectful manner."

So, actually, it turns out Trump didn't lie. They didn't discuss the Wall; The Mexican President told Trump how it's going to be, and Trump sat there, and took it like a bitch.




That is all spin on your part.


As candidate it is not time to start formal negotiations.


And if he HAD started such negotiations, you would be here attacking him to speaking for American before he won.
Sure. That's how that went. That's why he lied about who is going to pay for it not coming up.


Why are you being so dishonest and making such blanket statements based on nothing but your hatred?


Trump is a CANDIDATE. IT would be absurd for him to start negotiations as though he was representing the United States.


He let the moron Nieto grandstand a little for his Mexican voters.


If Trump wins, that is when the negotiations start and when Trump gives his response.


Nieto is not going to like it.
Then why lie about it? Why pretend that it didn't even "come up"? Why not just honestly say, President Pena Neito voiced his position, and we will have further conversations? The only reason to lie about it was that Trump knows that the President of Mexico shut him down, and he did not want that to be publicly known.

President Pena Neito voiced his opinion on who pays for the wall.
That's all that needed to be said. Trump spent the last year talking tough about who would pay for the wall. He had his chance to demonstrate that tough attitude with the guy in the room. The guy even opened the door for him to say something. Hell, he could have even said something as non-confrontational as, "Well...we'll talk about that..."

But, no. The only real Presidential person in the room, put the pretender in his place and Trump said...nothing. Then lied to everyone, and said the question of who pays for the wall didn't even come up.

And, now you guys are tripping over yourselves trying to justify Trump having his dick handed to him.
 
So, for months, and months, Trump has said that Mexico is going to "pay for" his wall. Not only has he said that, but he ridiculed Pena Nieto when he made it clear he wouldn't pay for it. Trump had a chance to let Pena Nieto what he is going to do, and he wussed out.

Worse than wussed out, either Trump lied, Pna Nieto lied, or he, and Pena Nieto were involved in two different conversations.

Trump said, specifically, at the press conference:

"We did discus the wall, we didn't discuss payment of the wall," Trump told reporters at a brief press conference alongside Peña Nieto after their meeting. "That will be for a later date."

Except, Pena Nieto, apparently discussed paying for the wall:

"At the start of my conversation with Donald Trump I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall," Peña Nieto tweeted in Spanish from his official account afterwards. "After that, the conversation moved on to other topics and unfolded in a respectful manner."

So, actually, it turns out Trump didn't lie. They didn't discuss the Wall; The Mexican President told Trump how it's going to be, and Trump sat there, and took it like a bitch.




That is all spin on your part.


As candidate it is not time to start formal negotiations.


And if he HAD started such negotiations, you would be here attacking him to speaking for American before he won.
Sure. That's how that went. That's why he lied about who is going to pay for it not coming up.


Why are you being so dishonest and making such blanket statements based on nothing but your hatred?


Trump is a CANDIDATE. IT would be absurd for him to start negotiations as though he was representing the United States.


He let the moron Nieto grandstand a little for his Mexican voters.


If Trump wins, that is when the negotiations start and when Trump gives his response.


Nieto is not going to like it.
Then why lie about it? Why pretend that it didn't even "come up"? Why not just honestly say, President Pena Neito voiced his position, and we will have further conversations? The only reason to lie about it was that Trump knows that the President of Mexico shut him down, and he did not want that to be publicly known.


From your op.


"We did discus the wall, we didn't discuss payment of the wall," Trump told reporters at a brief press conference alongside Peña Nieto after their meeting. "That will be for a later date."
Except, that. Was. A. Lie. Unless you are contending that Pena Neito is lying. Is that your contention?
 
So, for months, and months, Trump has said that Mexico is going to "pay for" his wall. Not only has he said that, but he ridiculed Pena Nieto when he made it clear he wouldn't pay for it. Trump had a chance to let Pena Nieto what he is going to do, and he wussed out.

Worse than wussed out, either Trump lied, Pna Nieto lied, or he, and Pena Nieto were involved in two different conversations.

Trump said, specifically, at the press conference:

"We did discus the wall, we didn't discuss payment of the wall," Trump told reporters at a brief press conference alongside Peña Nieto after their meeting. "That will be for a later date."

Except, Pena Nieto, apparently discussed paying for the wall:

"At the start of my conversation with Donald Trump I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall," Peña Nieto tweeted in Spanish from his official account afterwards. "After that, the conversation moved on to other topics and unfolded in a respectful manner."

So, actually, it turns out Trump didn't lie. They didn't discuss the Wall; The Mexican President told Trump how it's going to be, and Trump sat there, and took it like a bitch.




That is all spin on your part.


As candidate it is not time to start formal negotiations.


And if he HAD started such negotiations, you would be here attacking him to speaking for American before he won.
Sure. That's how that went. That's why he lied about who is going to pay for it not coming up.


Why are you being so dishonest and making such blanket statements based on nothing but your hatred?


Trump is a CANDIDATE. IT would be absurd for him to start negotiations as though he was representing the United States.


He let the moron Nieto grandstand a little for his Mexican voters.


If Trump wins, that is when the negotiations start and when Trump gives his response.


Nieto is not going to like it.
Then why lie about it? Why pretend that it didn't even "come up"? Why not just honestly say, President Pena Neito voiced his position, and we will have further conversations? The only reason to lie about it was that Trump knows that the President of Mexico shut him down, and he did not want that to be publicly known.

"We did discus the wall, we didn't discuss payment of the wall," Trump told reporters at a brief press conference alongside Peña Nieto after their meeting. "That will be for a later date."

No lie there. Nieto commented on not paying for the wall. That is not a discussion on paying for the wall. It seems that you have a comprehension problem.
 
So, for months, and months, Trump has said that Mexico is going to "pay for" his wall. Not only has he said that, but he ridiculed Pena Nieto when he made it clear he wouldn't pay for it. Trump had a chance to let Pena Nieto what he is going to do, and he wussed out.

Worse than wussed out, either Trump lied, Pna Nieto lied, or he, and Pena Nieto were involved in two different conversations.

Trump said, specifically, at the press conference:

"We did discus the wall, we didn't discuss payment of the wall," Trump told reporters at a brief press conference alongside Peña Nieto after their meeting. "That will be for a later date."

Except, Pena Nieto, apparently discussed paying for the wall:

"At the start of my conversation with Donald Trump I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall," Peña Nieto tweeted in Spanish from his official account afterwards. "After that, the conversation moved on to other topics and unfolded in a respectful manner."

So, actually, it turns out Trump didn't lie. They didn't discuss the Wall; The Mexican President told Trump how it's going to be, and Trump sat there, and took it like a bitch.




That is all spin on your part.


As candidate it is not time to start formal negotiations.


And if he HAD started such negotiations, you would be here attacking him to speaking for American before he won.
Sure. That's how that went. That's why he lied about who is going to pay for it not coming up.


Why are you being so dishonest and making such blanket statements based on nothing but your hatred?


Trump is a CANDIDATE. IT would be absurd for him to start negotiations as though he was representing the United States.


He let the moron Nieto grandstand a little for his Mexican voters.


If Trump wins, that is when the negotiations start and when Trump gives his response.


Nieto is not going to like it.
Then why lie about it? Why pretend that it didn't even "come up"? Why not just honestly say, President Pena Neito voiced his position, and we will have further conversations? The only reason to lie about it was that Trump knows that the President of Mexico shut him down, and he did not want that to be publicly known.

"We did discus the wall, we didn't discuss payment of the wall," Trump told reporters at a brief press conference alongside Peña Nieto after their meeting. "That will be for a later date."

No lie there. Nieto commented on not paying for the wall. That is not a discussion on paying for the wall. It seems that you have a comprehension problem.
Oh. That's cute. He didn't "comment". He dictated. You're right. There was no discussion. After all of Trump's tough talk. The President of Mexico told Trump how it's going to be - he didn't "comment"; he didn't muse - he told Trump how it's going to be. That would have been Trump's opportunity to, at least, tell Pena Neito that they could talk about that later. But, instead, he said nothing, and now, he, and you, want to pretend he has some bargaining position.

Go ahead, and spin it however you need to to still believe in your joke of a candidate. The rest of the world saw what really happened.


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That is all spin on your part.


As candidate it is not time to start formal negotiations.


And if he HAD started such negotiations, you would be here attacking him to speaking for American before he won.
Sure. That's how that went. That's why he lied about who is going to pay for it not coming up.


Why are you being so dishonest and making such blanket statements based on nothing but your hatred?


Trump is a CANDIDATE. IT would be absurd for him to start negotiations as though he was representing the United States.


He let the moron Nieto grandstand a little for his Mexican voters.


If Trump wins, that is when the negotiations start and when Trump gives his response.


Nieto is not going to like it.
Then why lie about it? Why pretend that it didn't even "come up"? Why not just honestly say, President Pena Neito voiced his position, and we will have further conversations? The only reason to lie about it was that Trump knows that the President of Mexico shut him down, and he did not want that to be publicly known.

President Pena Neito voiced his opinion on who pays for the wall.
That's all that needed to be said. Trump spent the last year talking tough about who would pay for the wall. He had his chance to demonstrate that tough attitude with the guy in the room. The guy even opened the door for him to say something. Hell, he could have even said something as non-confrontational as, "Well...we'll talk about that..."

But, no. The only real Presidential person in the room, put the pretender in his place and Trump said...nothing. Then lied to everyone, and said the question of who pays for the wall didn't even come up.

And, now you guys are tripping over yourselves trying to justify Trump having his dick handed to him.

It is not Trumps job to argue with Neito. They did not have a discussion, and I didn't see a question. Trump said to Nieto's face at the press conference that "That will be for a later date." Nieto then waited until Trump was out of the country to make further comments instead of arguing with Trump.
 
That is all spin on your part.


As candidate it is not time to start formal negotiations.


And if he HAD started such negotiations, you would be here attacking him to speaking for American before he won.
Sure. That's how that went. That's why he lied about who is going to pay for it not coming up.


Why are you being so dishonest and making such blanket statements based on nothing but your hatred?


Trump is a CANDIDATE. IT would be absurd for him to start negotiations as though he was representing the United States.


He let the moron Nieto grandstand a little for his Mexican voters.


If Trump wins, that is when the negotiations start and when Trump gives his response.


Nieto is not going to like it.
Then why lie about it? Why pretend that it didn't even "come up"? Why not just honestly say, President Pena Neito voiced his position, and we will have further conversations? The only reason to lie about it was that Trump knows that the President of Mexico shut him down, and he did not want that to be publicly known.

"We did discus the wall, we didn't discuss payment of the wall," Trump told reporters at a brief press conference alongside Peña Nieto after their meeting. "That will be for a later date."

No lie there. Nieto commented on not paying for the wall. That is not a discussion on paying for the wall. It seems that you have a comprehension problem.
Oh. That's cute. He didn't "comment". He dictated. You're right. There was no discussion. After all of Trump's tough talk. The President of Mexico told Trump how it's going to be - he didn't "comment"; he didn't muse - he told Trump how it's going to be. That would have been Trump's opportunity to, at least, tell Pena Neito that they could talk about that later. But, instead, he said nothing, and now, he, and you, want to pretend he has some bargaining position.

Go ahead, and spin it however you need to to still believe in your joke of a candidate. The rest of the world saw what really happened.


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You are spinning faster than any top I have ever seen. You post lie after lie and expect someone to believe you. For example, you take Nieto's word for what he said and ignore what Trump said at the Press conference.

"At the start of my conversation with Donald Trump I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall," Peña Nieto tweeted in Spanish from his official account afterwards."

"Trump told reporters at a brief press conference alongside Peña Nieto after their meeting. "That will be for a later date."

You are nutso and are a complete failure at spin.
 
I was thinking the same thing. Trump says we didn't discuss payment and that's a lie, but the Mexican president says they did and its automatically the truth? Without a recording of the conference there is NO WAY TO KNOW WHO IS LYING.
 
Trump couldn't even get his first diplomatic mission right. Apparently he can't remember his meeting with the president of Mexico. :laugh:
 
That is all spin on your part.


As candidate it is not time to start formal negotiations.


And if he HAD started such negotiations, you would be here attacking him to speaking for American before he won.
Sure. That's how that went. That's why he lied about who is going to pay for it not coming up.


Why are you being so dishonest and making such blanket statements based on nothing but your hatred?


Trump is a CANDIDATE. IT would be absurd for him to start negotiations as though he was representing the United States.


He let the moron Nieto grandstand a little for his Mexican voters.


If Trump wins, that is when the negotiations start and when Trump gives his response.


Nieto is not going to like it.
Then why lie about it? Why pretend that it didn't even "come up"? Why not just honestly say, President Pena Neito voiced his position, and we will have further conversations? The only reason to lie about it was that Trump knows that the President of Mexico shut him down, and he did not want that to be publicly known.


From your op.


"We did discus the wall, we didn't discuss payment of the wall," Trump told reporters at a brief press conference alongside Peña Nieto after their meeting. "That will be for a later date."
Except, that. Was. A. Lie. Unless you are contending that Pena Neito is lying. Is that your contention?


THE TWO STATEMENTS DO NOT CONTRADICT EACH OTHER.

A bold statement by the President of Mexico is not a discussion.


Trump is a CANDIDATE. IT would be absurd for him to start negotiations as though he was representing the United States.


He let the moron Nieto grandstand a little for his Mexican voters.


If Trump wins, that is when the negotiations start and when Trump gives his response.


Nieto is not going to like it.
 

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