One Of The Wealthiest Men In America Says Rich Not Paying Their Fair Share

[Campbell]

The top 10% should pay it all....they damn sure don't go fight and die in the Republican wars.

They should, huh?

Can you explain why anybody should be paying your way through life? Because they happen to have it? If you are in a fancy restaurant, and there is a very rich guy there, should he be buying your dinner for you and your wife? Or if you are looking at new cars at the dealership, should a rich guy buy you a car because of the reason he is wealthy?

I guess that's the difference between conservative and liberal philosophy: conservatives believe all men are created equal, while liberals believe they make everybody equal.

How much is YOUR fair share of what somebody else worked for?"
Thomas Sowell

What you folks never have nor ever will admit is that rich people got it one of two ways.

1) They inherited it
2) They used the labor and/or talents of others.....anything else is some kind of con

I have a theory about what goes on in this life. A person cannot choose who their parents will be. They cannot choose where they will be born. They cannot choose their IQ. They have nothing to say about whether or not they will be crippled or normal. Why don't you Republican assholes just admit how lucky you are?

The Republicans are not against those who are underprivileged physically or mentally. The Republicans are against those who are capable of earning a living but opt to suck off the system because Democrats are able to buy votes that way.

Economist Dr. Walter E Williams said it best about the wealthy. When teaching in college, he was often asked by his students what the secret to financial success was? He would always reply that it's no secret at all. The key to financial success is making your fellow man happy. That's it.

You've been told you make a great hamburger when you cook for parties or picnics, so you take your great hamburger and open up a restaurant. You are making your fellow man happy by the hundreds, and that will be reflected in your income. Then you decide to franchise your restaurant and sell your delicious burger to millions of people. Again, your income will reflect serving your fellow man by the millions: McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King.

You often play your guitar for friends and family at parties or gatherings, and they tell you that your music is outstanding. So you put together a band and start playing bars and weddings making your fellow man happy by the hundreds, and you will be financially rewarded. Then a recording company hears about your talent, signs you up to make a recording, and now your music is pleasing your fellow man by the millions. Your income will reflect that.

In most cases, wealthy people are wealthy because they provide a product or service that pleases their fellow man by the thousands or millions. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Oprah, Cher........

LOL....life is a business solution. You are definitely a Republican!

What about the poor bastard who is born with osteoporosis and is losing bone mass every day that he/she lives? A person living their life knowing that just bending forward might break their back. Crippled people definitely don't want to join the Republican party.

Why is that? When have Republicans stated they want the disabled to support themselves? If anything, we want to get the leeches off of the programs so that those who really need them have more. Don't get me wrong, we think it would be great of a disabled person were able to find a way to create money. I've seen it done repeatedly in my life. But no Republican is for throwing the unfortunate off of our welfare programs to let them starve or die.

Horse Shit!! When Ronald Reagan slashed tax rates to 50 year lows that's exactly what he did. State and federally funded institutions had to put people out and the homeless on the streets of big cities in America quadrupled. Republicans want it all for themselves. Ever since Reagan(when incidently for the first time in my life I quit voting for them) the Republican party stands for two things...low tax rates for the rich and corporations and throw in an occasional war.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

They should, huh?

Can you explain why anybody should be paying your way through life? Because they happen to have it? If you are in a fancy restaurant, and there is a very rich guy there, should he be buying your dinner for you and your wife? Or if you are looking at new cars at the dealership, should a rich guy buy you a car because of the reason he is wealthy?

I guess that's the difference between conservative and liberal philosophy: conservatives believe all men are created equal, while liberals believe they make everybody equal.

How much is YOUR fair share of what somebody else worked for?"
Thomas Sowell

What you folks never have nor ever will admit is that rich people got it one of two ways.

1) They inherited it
2) They used the labor and/or talents of others.....anything else is some kind of con

I have a theory about what goes on in this life. A person cannot choose who their parents will be. They cannot choose where they will be born. They cannot choose their IQ. They have nothing to say about whether or not they will be crippled or normal. Why don't you Republican assholes just admit how lucky you are?

The Republicans are not against those who are underprivileged physically or mentally. The Republicans are against those who are capable of earning a living but opt to suck off the system because Democrats are able to buy votes that way.

Economist Dr. Walter E Williams said it best about the wealthy. When teaching in college, he was often asked by his students what the secret to financial success was? He would always reply that it's no secret at all. The key to financial success is making your fellow man happy. That's it.

You've been told you make a great hamburger when you cook for parties or picnics, so you take your great hamburger and open up a restaurant. You are making your fellow man happy by the hundreds, and that will be reflected in your income. Then you decide to franchise your restaurant and sell your delicious burger to millions of people. Again, your income will reflect serving your fellow man by the millions: McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King.

You often play your guitar for friends and family at parties or gatherings, and they tell you that your music is outstanding. So you put together a band and start playing bars and weddings making your fellow man happy by the hundreds, and you will be financially rewarded. Then a recording company hears about your talent, signs you up to make a recording, and now your music is pleasing your fellow man by the millions. Your income will reflect that.

In most cases, wealthy people are wealthy because they provide a product or service that pleases their fellow man by the thousands or millions. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Oprah, Cher........

LOL....life is a business solution. You are definitely a Republican!

What about the poor bastard who is born with osteoporosis and is losing bone mass every day that he/she lives? A person living their life knowing that just bending forward might break their back. Crippled people definitely don't want to join the Republican party.

Why is that? When have Republicans stated they want the disabled to support themselves? If anything, we want to get the leeches off of the programs so that those who really need them have more. Don't get me wrong, we think it would be great of a disabled person were able to find a way to create money. I've seen it done repeatedly in my life. But no Republican is for throwing the unfortunate off of our welfare programs to let them starve or die.

Horse Shit!! When Ronald Reagan slashed tax rates to 50 year lows that's exactly what he did. State and federally funded institutions had to put people out and the homeless on the streets of big cities in America quadrupled. Republicans want it all for themselves. Ever since Reagan(when incidently for the first time in my life I quit voting for them) the Republican party stands for two things...low tax rates for the rich and corporations and throw in an occasional war.

As I already pointed out, the last time Republicans had anything to do with taxes on the wealthy and corporations, they increased them, not decreased them. Furthermore is the fact that the wealthy have never gotten wealthier than under DumBama. So what's with this fixation on the Republicans?

And as the Wiki post said, it was the Supreme Court that forbade institutions from keeping the mentally incapable inside those institutions. They had to unlock the door and let all those people out. Reagan had nothing to do with that. It was a ruling in 1975, five years before Reagan became President.

That's besides the fact you on the left have had four terms of Democrat presidency to change anything they wanted to; 16 years and no changes.

 

[Wilbur Right]

And as the Wiki post said, it was the Supreme Court that forbade institutions from keeping the mentally incapable inside those institutions. They had to unlock the door and let all those people out. Reagan had nothing to do with that. It was a ruling in 1975, five years before Reagan became President.

Bhai









Your version of history is always entertaining Ray.

The rights of the mentally ill had been a battle going on since the sixties.

That battle coincided with Ronnies desire to cut federal funding.

Which Ronnie did when he eliminated Carter's mental health care bill and made mental health more of a state problem.

Dude you either lie by omission or you remain willfully ignorant by choice.

 

[Campbell]

How come when Donald Trump says the rich should be taxed more every one of his supporters like to jump up and down and cheer but when this guy who has more wealth than Trump ever dreamed about have suggested higher taxes they attack him and whine like retarded little girls.

I think it's because of Trump's hair.

 

[Campbell]

What you folks never have nor ever will admit is that rich people got it one of two ways.

1) They inherited it
2) They used the labor and/or talents of others.....anything else is some kind of con

I have a theory about what goes on in this life. A person cannot choose who their parents will be. They cannot choose where they will be born. They cannot choose their IQ. They have nothing to say about whether or not they will be crippled or normal. Why don't you Republican assholes just admit how lucky you are?

The Republicans are not against those who are underprivileged physically or mentally. The Republicans are against those who are capable of earning a living but opt to suck off the system because Democrats are able to buy votes that way.

Economist Dr. Walter E Williams said it best about the wealthy. When teaching in college, he was often asked by his students what the secret to financial success was? He would always reply that it's no secret at all. The key to financial success is making your fellow man happy. That's it.

You've been told you make a great hamburger when you cook for parties or picnics, so you take your great hamburger and open up a restaurant. You are making your fellow man happy by the hundreds, and that will be reflected in your income. Then you decide to franchise your restaurant and sell your delicious burger to millions of people. Again, your income will reflect serving your fellow man by the millions: McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King.

You often play your guitar for friends and family at parties or gatherings, and they tell you that your music is outstanding. So you put together a band and start playing bars and weddings making your fellow man happy by the hundreds, and you will be financially rewarded. Then a recording company hears about your talent, signs you up to make a recording, and now your music is pleasing your fellow man by the millions. Your income will reflect that.

In most cases, wealthy people are wealthy because they provide a product or service that pleases their fellow man by the thousands or millions. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Oprah, Cher........

LOL....life is a business solution. You are definitely a Republican!

What about the poor bastard who is born with osteoporosis and is losing bone mass every day that he/she lives? A person living their life knowing that just bending forward might break their back. Crippled people definitely don't want to join the Republican party.

Why is that? When have Republicans stated they want the disabled to support themselves? If anything, we want to get the leeches off of the programs so that those who really need them have more. Don't get me wrong, we think it would be great of a disabled person were able to find a way to create money. I've seen it done repeatedly in my life. But no Republican is for throwing the unfortunate off of our welfare programs to let them starve or die.

Horse Shit!! When Ronald Reagan slashed tax rates to 50 year lows that's exactly what he did. State and federally funded institutions had to put people out and the homeless on the streets of big cities in America quadrupled. Republicans want it all for themselves. Ever since Reagan(when incidently for the first time in my life I quit voting for them) the Republican party stands for two things...low tax rates for the rich and corporations and throw in an occasional war.

As I already pointed out, the last time Republicans had anything to do with taxes on the wealthy and corporations, they increased them, not decreased them. Furthermore is the fact that the wealthy have never gotten wealthier than under DumBama. So what's with this fixation on the Republicans?

And as the Wiki post said, it was the Supreme Court that forbade institutions from keeping the mentally incapable inside those institutions. They had to unlock the door and let all those people out. Reagan had nothing to do with that. It was a ruling in 1975, five years before Reagan became President.

That's besides the fact you on the left have had four terms of Democrat presidency to change anything they wanted to; 16 years and no changes.

You people live in some kind of fantasy world which has nothing to do with reality.....plus, like Faux News you just make shit up.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And as the Wiki post said, it was the Supreme Court that forbade institutions from keeping the mentally incapable inside those institutions. They had to unlock the door and let all those people out. Reagan had nothing to do with that. It was a ruling in 1975, five years before Reagan became President.

Bhai









Your version of history is always entertaining Ray.

The rights of the mentally ill had been a battle going on since the sixties.

That battle coincided with Ronnies desire to cut federal funding.

Which Ronnie did when he eliminated Carter's mental health care bill and made mental health more of a state problem.

Dude you either lie by omission or you remain willfully ignorant by choice.

Correct, it did go on long before Reagan, but you only want to blame Reagan. From revisionist evil right-wing New York Times:

But, he continued, ''It happened much faster than we foresaw.'' The discharge of mental patients was accelerated in the late 1960's and early 1970's in some states as a result of a series of court decisions that limited the commitment powers of state and local officials.

Dr. Brown insists, as do others who were involved in the Congressional legislation to establish community mental health centers, that politicians and health experts were carrying out a public mandate to abolish the abominable conditions of insane asylums. He and others note - and their critics do not disagree - that their motives were not venal and that they were acting humanely.

In restrospect it does seem clear that questions were not asked that might have been asked. In the thousands of pages of testimony before Congressional committees in the late 1950's and early 1960's, little doubt was expressed about the wisdom of deinstitutionalization. And the development of tranquilizing drugs was regarded as an unqualified ''godsend,'' as one of the nation's leading psychiatrists, Dr. Francis J. Braceland, described it when he testified before a Senate subcommittee in 1963.

HOW RELEASE OF MENTAL PATIENTS BEGAN

But of course if you still want to blame Reagan, remember who led the Congress under Reagan (you know Congress, the people that make laws and spend money in our country?) before you go casting stones at any Republican.

 

[Rozman]

I don't see the IRS having any problems with those the Libs call 'the rich' are paying.
Otherwise there would be plenty of news stories on MSNBC about it.

 

[Stephanie]

And as the Wiki post said, it was the Supreme Court that forbade institutions from keeping the mentally incapable inside those institutions. They had to unlock the door and let all those people out. Reagan had nothing to do with that. It was a ruling in 1975, five years before Reagan became President.

Bhai









Your version of history is always entertaining Ray.

The rights of the mentally ill had been a battle going on since the sixties.

That battle coincided with Ronnies desire to cut federal funding.

Which Ronnie did when he eliminated Carter's mental health care bill and made mental health more of a state problem.

Dude you either lie by omission or you remain willfully ignorant by choice.

Correct, it did go on long before Reagan, but you only want to blame Reagan. From revisionist evil right-wing New York Times:

But, he continued, ''It happened much faster than we foresaw.'' The discharge of mental patients was accelerated in the late 1960's and early 1970's in some states as a result of a series of court decisions that limited the commitment powers of state and local officials.

Dr. Brown insists, as do others who were involved in the Congressional legislation to establish community mental health centers, that politicians and health experts were carrying out a public mandate to abolish the abominable conditions of insane asylums. He and others note - and their critics do not disagree - that their motives were not venal and that they were acting humanely.

In restrospect it does seem clear that questions were not asked that might have been asked. In the thousands of pages of testimony before Congressional committees in the late 1950's and early 1960's, little doubt was expressed about the wisdom of deinstitutionalization. And the development of tranquilizing drugs was regarded as an unqualified ''godsend,'' as one of the nation's leading psychiatrists, Dr. Francis J. Braceland, described it when he testified before a Senate subcommittee in 1963.

HOW RELEASE OF MENTAL PATIENTS BEGAN

But of course if you still want to blame Reagan, remember who led the Congress under Reagan (you know Congress, the people that make laws and spend money in our country?) before you go casting stones at any Republican.

Exactly. they only got Reagan to blame from their low info leftwing hate sites.

 

[Wilbur Right]

of course if you still want to blame Reagan, remember who led the Congress under Reagan (you know Congress, the people that make laws and spend money in our country?) before you go casting stones at any Republican.

It's a shame you can't use Google Ray. It would make you look smarter.

53 Republican senators when Reagan took office and for his first two years repubs controlled the Senate. Fact Ray.

244 dems in the house and 191 repubs.plus the dems has Tipp Oneil who was more than willing to work with Reagan. And some southern dems who worked with repubs.

So the first thing Reagan does is completely eliminate the Mental health program Carter had just got passed. Because then Reagan could say how he cut them federal programs. Facts dude.

A short while later, Reagan was shot by a crazy fucker named Hinckley. Karma.
But Hinckley sure got him some mental health care didn't he.

 

[Wilbur Right]

Exactly. they only got Reagan to blame from their low info leftwing hate sites.

Don't tell me. You are to stupid to use google as well.

Or do you think Dems controlled all of congress when Reagan was elected?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

of course if you still want to blame Reagan, remember who led the Congress under Reagan (you know Congress, the people that make laws and spend money in our country?) before you go casting stones at any Republican.

It's a shame you can't use Google Ray. It would make you look smarter.

53 Republican senators when Reagan took office and for his first two years repubs controlled the Senate. Fact Ray.

244 dems in the house and 191 repubs.plus the dems has Tipp Oneil who was more than willing to work with Reagan. And some southern dems who worked with repubs.

So the first thing Reagan does is completely eliminate the Mental health program Carter had just got passed. Because then Reagan could say how he cut them federal programs. Facts dude.

A short while later, Reagan was shot by a crazy fucker named Hinckley. Karma.
But Hinckley sure got him some mental health care didn't he.

For crying out loud. Yes, Democrats held leadership in Congress during Reagan's two terms. THAT'S WHAT I SIAD!!!!

And speaking of Google, why don't you Google who makes laws in this country: the Congress or Senate?

And while you're at it, Google Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981 There you will find how Reagan took federal money and block granted it to states instead of having the feds run the mental institutions.

 

[Wilbur Right]

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For crying out loud. Yes, Democrats held leadership in Congress during Reagan's two terms. THAT'S WHAT I SIAD!!!!

And speaking of Google, why don't you Google who makes laws in this country: the Congress or Senate?

Dam Ray. Congress, that governing body that consists of a house of representatives and a Senate.

Who controlled the Senate when Reagan was elected Ray? It's a simple question.

Yea it was block granted to the states. And it wasn't enough money and mental health facilities all.over the country either closed or cut back services GREATLY.

But yea Ray, when Reagan won, the dems had control in the house. Republicans held the Senate and the WH.

Why do you act like you know this shit?

 

[Wilbur Right]

Ray, that Reagan tax reform act of 86, did you like the way Reagan expanded the EITC?

Isn't that the program your kind hate so much cause all those workers get back all they paid in plus some? That 47% that pays nothing. Thanks to Ford and Reagan.

Why yes it is. And Reagan loved that program. RINO wasn't he.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

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For crying out loud. Yes, Democrats held leadership in Congress during Reagan's two terms. THAT'S WHAT I SIAD!!!!

And speaking of Google, why don't you Google who makes laws in this country: the Congress or Senate?

Dam Ray. Congress, that governing body that consists of a house of representatives and a Senate.

Who controlled the Senate when Reagan was elected Ray? It's a simple question.

Yea it was block granted to the states. And it wasn't enough money and mental health facilities all.over the country either closed or cut back services GREATLY.

But yea Ray, when Reagan won, the dems had control in the house. Republicans held the Senate and the WH.

Why do you act like you know this shit?

Why do you? You don't even know how our government operates, do you? Did you ever try reading a document called the US Constitution? Probably too far ahead of you. So let me just give you one sentence of it here: All bills originate in the US Congress. Do you know what that means? It means that no bills originate in the Senate. The Senate is the SECOND house to get bills from the Congress.

 

[Campbell]

And as the Wiki post said, it was the Supreme Court that forbade institutions from keeping the mentally incapable inside those institutions. They had to unlock the door and let all those people out. Reagan had nothing to do with that. It was a ruling in 1975, five years before Reagan became President.

Bhai









Your version of history is always entertaining Ray.

The rights of the mentally ill had been a battle going on since the sixties.

That battle coincided with Ronnies desire to cut federal funding.

Which Ronnie did when he eliminated Carter's mental health care bill and made mental health more of a state problem.

Dude you either lie by omission or you remain willfully ignorant by choice.

Correct, it did go on long before Reagan, but you only want to blame Reagan. From revisionist evil right-wing New York Times:

But, he continued, ''It happened much faster than we foresaw.'' The discharge of mental patients was accelerated in the late 1960's and early 1970's in some states as a result of a series of court decisions that limited the commitment powers of state and local officials.

Dr. Brown insists, as do others who were involved in the Congressional legislation to establish community mental health centers, that politicians and health experts were carrying out a public mandate to abolish the abominable conditions of insane asylums. He and others note - and their critics do not disagree - that their motives were not venal and that they were acting humanely.

In restrospect it does seem clear that questions were not asked that might have been asked. In the thousands of pages of testimony before Congressional committees in the late 1950's and early 1960's, little doubt was expressed about the wisdom of deinstitutionalization. And the development of tranquilizing drugs was regarded as an unqualified ''godsend,'' as one of the nation's leading psychiatrists, Dr. Francis J. Braceland, described it when he testified before a Senate subcommittee in 1963.

HOW RELEASE OF MENTAL PATIENTS BEGAN

But of course if you still want to blame Reagan, remember who led the Congress under Reagan (you know Congress, the people that make laws and spend money in our country?) before you go casting stones at any Republican.

Exactly. they only got Reagan to blame from their low info leftwing hate sites.

In my lifetime the Republican party has morphed from a party of the people to a party which represents only the rich and corporations. FUCK 'EM

 

[Wilbur Right]

Wassa matter Ray. Didn't want to talk about Reagan and the EITC? LMAO.

Ray, look up the word "bicameral".
Maybe, but I doubt it, you could educate yourself about our form of government.

Are you willfully stupid Ray? What good does that do you?

 

[Wilbur Right]

s. Do you know what that means? It means that no bills originate in the Senate. The Senate is the SECOND house to get bills from the Congress.

Dam Ray. The Senate introduces bills Ray. Just not spending bills. Those are supposed to come from the house of reps.

You really need google dude.

 

[Campbell]

s. Do you know what that means? It means that no bills originate in the Senate. The Senate is the SECOND house to get bills from the Congress.

Dam Ray. The Senate introduces bills Ray. Just not spending bills. Those are supposed to come from the house of reps.

You really need google dude.

He's already used the google......he searched on "definition of small pecker" and was extremely distraught when the top line was "Anything Smaller Than 3 Inches"

 

[FJO]

Just exactly WHAT is "fair share"?

What percent of income paid as tax would be FAIR?

I am beginning to think that those who want the rich pay their FAIR share really want the rich to be no more able to keep more of their income than those who earn the national average income. With added penalty for being "rich".

Will this be FAIR to apply to politicians? University professors? Union Bosses?

Or only to those rich who create jobs?

 

[JoeNormal]

oh brother. that's easy enough to say when you're gawddam rich for crying out loud.

Nothing is stopping him from donating all his monies to the Fed. Guberment

He's telling the truth. Why the hell should a normal everyday American pay at the same percentage as a millionaire? This country was built on everybody paying their fair share.....not a flat tax rate! We had a middle class until Reagan slashed tax rates to 50 year lows:

THEN THE RESULT:

Nearly half of Americans pay no income tax at all. And in this country, nobody pays their fair share. That's why the top 10% of wage earners in this country pay 70% of all collected income taxes.

The top 10% control 75% of the wealth so it's ALMOST equitable.