One More Time....When Was America Great And When Did It Stop?

[Slade3200]

and All the Goodies , i and my 4 brothers and sisters and MOM got them from the DAD until i moved out on my own . And then i got the goodies for myself by working . But as i keep saying , my only objection is the increase of laws , rules , regulations and 'pc' that is increasingly removing Freedom and Liberty piece by piece , bit by bit from Americans .

Like what exactly? Which PC trend or law or regulation is diminishing your liberty in such an effective way. Give me some examples

----------------------- as i already gave 2 example in one of my posts Slade and i was very Specific . And i was Specific in post number 31 Slade . And for years you guys have been going after guns as you work to REMOVE effective and Eficient Guns from the hands of Americans Slade . But as i say , i have seen diminishing Freedom and Liberty in the USA since the mid 60s . The fact that you don't care about what i call important means nothing Slade . [Freedom is Diminishingin the USA ]

Do you have a problem buying a gun where you live? I could go down the street and get one right now. No biggie

 

[captkaos]

I don’t think trump is a racist. He is an opportunist and racially insensitive. I think he has no problem insulting people of all stripes and I have no doubt he would make fun of their sex, religion, race, disability or anything else he can use. That is different than being a full blown racist in my opinion.

Sorry to say that, Slade, but you seem not to have paid attention, then. From the racist selection of renters in the 1970s to stoking racial animus during his campaign, he has shown himself to be a full-blown racist. There is no mistaking that. Sexism, Islamophobia, homophobia, insulting the disabled, racism, it's the exact same thing targeting a different group: Asserting one's own supremacy by way of denigrating whatever Other there is as inferior. Also, there's no mistaking that everyone knew it, and, in relevant part, he has been elected because of it.

He got elected because Hillary couldn't keep her real(Socialist) Stripes hidden. The "Basket of deplorables" took it personally and won't easily forget! Can you remember an Insult hurled at you by someone from 4 years ago! I can and it influences my decisions everyday...…….. It doesn't include Hillary I made my decision about the Clintons Years ago! Slick Willie made me a Republican. Thanks Bill !!!!!!

 

[Slade3200]

and All the Goodies , i and my 4 brothers and sisters and MOM got them from the DAD until i moved out on my own . And then i got the goodies for myself by working . But as i keep saying , my only objection is the increase of laws , rules , regulations and 'pc' that is increasingly removing Freedom and Liberty piece by piece , bit by bit from Americans .

Like what exactly? Which PC trend or law or regulation is diminishing your liberty in such an effective way. Give me some examples

---------------------------------- i gave you an answer an a post number , reread post number 31 Slade where i give a couple specifics Slade .

I don’t buy the motorcycle helmet situation. I thank you for citing an example but the fact remains if you crash your motorcycle then the community cleans up the mess. In many cases the community pays for it as well. Crashes without helmets are more messy and more expensive so if you want to ride your bike on public roads you need to to follow their rules. If you want to drive your car on public roads you follow the rules. They are there for the safety of the public

You can do whatever you want on private property. Or you can move to Texas and a handful of other states that don’t have a helmet law. It’s up to the states.

 

[Slade3200]

I don’t think trump is a racist. He is an opportunist and racially insensitive. I think he has no problem insulting people of all stripes and I have no doubt he would make fun of their sex, religion, race, disability or anything else he can use. That is different than being a full blown racist in my opinion.

Sorry to say that, Slade, but you seem not to have paid attention, then. From the racist selection of renters in the 1970s to stoking racial animus during his campaign, he has shown himself to be a full-blown racist. There is no mistaking that. Sexism, Islamophobia, homophobia, insulting the disabled, racism, it's the exact same thing targeting a different group: Asserting one's own supremacy by way of denigrating whatever Other there is as inferior. Also, there's no mistaking that everyone knew it, and, in relevant part, he has been elected because of it.

He got elected because Hillary couldn't keep her real(Socialist) Stripes hidden. The "Basket of deplorables" took it personally and won't easily forget! Can you remember an Insult hurled at you by someone from 4 years ago! I can and it influences my decisions everyday...…….. It doesn't include Hillary I made my decision about the Clintons Years ago! Slick Willie made me a Republican. Thanks Bill !!!!!!

You know the basket of deplorables comment was aimed at real deplorable people right? She was talking specifically about racists and white nationalist. Then the media conflated it to mean all trump supporters. You understand that right?

 

[captkaos]

and All the Goodies , i and my 4 brothers and sisters and MOM got them from the DAD until i moved out on my own . And then i got the goodies for myself by working . But as i keep saying , my only objection is the increase of laws , rules , regulations and 'pc' that is increasingly removing Freedom and Liberty piece by piece , bit by bit from Americans .

Like what exactly? Which PC trend or law or regulation is diminishing your liberty in such an effective way. Give me some examples

----------------------- as i already gave 2 example in one of my posts Slade and i was very Specific . And i was Specific in post number 31 Slade . And for years you guys have been going after guns as you work to REMOVE effective and Eficient Guns from the hands of Americans Slade . But as i say , i have seen diminishing Freedom and Liberty in the USA since the mid 60s . The fact that you don't care about what i call important means nothing Slade . [Freedom is Diminishingin the USA ]

Do you have a problem buying a gun where you live? I could go down the street and get one right now. No biggie

The left hates guns " but only in the one in hands of People of a different Political Ideology" I guarantee you the Elite Political Class will not give up the Security afforded by the Deadly force and deterrent that threat brings. They just want " the average person" not to have them! Hard to totally control an armed populace, every Socialist/ Communist Dictator knows that! So Do We the people. ……….. Powder dry!!!!!!

 

[captkaos]

I don’t think trump is a racist. He is an opportunist and racially insensitive. I think he has no problem insulting people of all stripes and I have no doubt he would make fun of their sex, religion, race, disability or anything else he can use. That is different than being a full blown racist in my opinion.

Sorry to say that, Slade, but you seem not to have paid attention, then. From the racist selection of renters in the 1970s to stoking racial animus during his campaign, he has shown himself to be a full-blown racist. There is no mistaking that. Sexism, Islamophobia, homophobia, insulting the disabled, racism, it's the exact same thing targeting a different group: Asserting one's own supremacy by way of denigrating whatever Other there is as inferior. Also, there's no mistaking that everyone knew it, and, in relevant part, he has been elected because of it.

He got elected because Hillary couldn't keep her real(Socialist) Stripes hidden. The "Basket of deplorables" took it personally and won't easily forget! Can you remember an Insult hurled at you by someone from 4 years ago! I can and it influences my decisions everyday...…….. It doesn't include Hillary I made my decision about the Clintons Years ago! Slick Willie made me a Republican. Thanks Bill !!!!!!

You know the basket of deplorables comment was aimed at real deplorable people right? She was talking specifically about racists and white nationalist. Then the media conflated it to mean all trump supporters. You understand that right?

Deflection from a truly Monumental Political gamer Changer. I'm not a racist or white nationalist and I was offended! Trump was a better option than someone who would denigrate any American. I guess a lot of people some who may have actually been leaning toward Hillary about faced when they knew her Mind!

 

[Slade3200]

and All the Goodies , i and my 4 brothers and sisters and MOM got them from the DAD until i moved out on my own . And then i got the goodies for myself by working . But as i keep saying , my only objection is the increase of laws , rules , regulations and 'pc' that is increasingly removing Freedom and Liberty piece by piece , bit by bit from Americans .

Like what exactly? Which PC trend or law or regulation is diminishing your liberty in such an effective way. Give me some examples

----------------------- as i already gave 2 example in one of my posts Slade and i was very Specific . And i was Specific in post number 31 Slade . And for years you guys have been going after guns as you work to REMOVE effective and Eficient Guns from the hands of Americans Slade . But as i say , i have seen diminishing Freedom and Liberty in the USA since the mid 60s . The fact that you don't care about what i call important means nothing Slade . [Freedom is Diminishingin the USA ]

Do you have a problem buying a gun where you live? I could go down the street and get one right now. No biggie

The left hates guns " but only in the one in hands of People of a different Political Ideology" I guarantee you the Elite Political Class will not give up the Security afforded by the Deadly force and deterrent that threat brings. They just want " the average person" not to have them! Hard to totally control an armed populace, every Socialist/ Communist Dictator knows that! So Do We the people. ……….. Powder dry!!!!!!

I don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m pretty liberal and I own guns... I have no problem with responsible people owning guns.

 

[Slade3200]

I don’t think trump is a racist. He is an opportunist and racially insensitive. I think he has no problem insulting people of all stripes and I have no doubt he would make fun of their sex, religion, race, disability or anything else he can use. That is different than being a full blown racist in my opinion.

Sorry to say that, Slade, but you seem not to have paid attention, then. From the racist selection of renters in the 1970s to stoking racial animus during his campaign, he has shown himself to be a full-blown racist. There is no mistaking that. Sexism, Islamophobia, homophobia, insulting the disabled, racism, it's the exact same thing targeting a different group: Asserting one's own supremacy by way of denigrating whatever Other there is as inferior. Also, there's no mistaking that everyone knew it, and, in relevant part, he has been elected because of it.

He got elected because Hillary couldn't keep her real(Socialist) Stripes hidden. The "Basket of deplorables" took it personally and won't easily forget! Can you remember an Insult hurled at you by someone from 4 years ago! I can and it influences my decisions everyday...…….. It doesn't include Hillary I made my decision about the Clintons Years ago! Slick Willie made me a Republican. Thanks Bill !!!!!!

You know the basket of deplorables comment was aimed at real deplorable people right? She was talking specifically about racists and white nationalist. Then the media conflated it to mean all trump supporters. You understand that right?

Deflection from a truly Monumental Political gamer Changer. I'm not a racist or white nationalist and I was offended! Trump was a better option than someone who would denigrate any American. I guess a lot of people some who may have actually been leaning toward Hillary about faced when they knew her Mind!

If you were offended then you misunderstood the statement or you believed the spin. Plain and simple. She was talking about racists not republicans or trump supporters.

Just like Trump wasn’t calling Nazis good people. You’re playing the same game as those who spun Trumps Charlotteville comment. Do better

 

[pismoe]

and All the Goodies , i and my 4 brothers and sisters and MOM got them from the DAD until i moved out on my own . And then i got the goodies for myself by working . But as i keep saying , my only objection is the increase of laws , rules , regulations and 'pc' that is increasingly removing Freedom and Liberty piece by piece , bit by bit from Americans .

Like what exactly? Which PC trend or law or regulation is diminishing your liberty in such an effective way. Give me some examples

----------------------- as i already gave 2 example in one of my posts Slade and i was very Specific . And i was Specific in post number 31 Slade . And for years you guys have been going after guns as you work to REMOVE effective and Eficient Guns from the hands of Americans Slade . But as i say , i have seen diminishing Freedom and Liberty in the USA since the mid 60s . The fact that you don't care about what i call important means nothing Slade . [Freedom is Diminishingin the USA ]

Do you have a problem buying a gun where you live? I could go down the street and get one right now. No biggie

The left hates guns " but only in the one in hands of People of a different Political Ideology" I guarantee you the Elite Political Class will not give up the Security afforded by the Deadly force and deterrent that threat brings. They just want " the average person" not to have them! Hard to totally control an armed populace, every Socialist/ Communist Dictator knows that! So Do We the people. ……….. Powder dry!!!!!!

I don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m pretty liberal and I own guns... I have no problem with responsible people owning guns.

---------------------------------- i think I said that now another diminishing freedom is that Guns are being gone after by government didn't I Slade ?? And yeah , private property where the GOV tells people , even private property owners whether their Patrons can smoke or not Slade . Just MORE diminishing Freedom Slade .

 

[pismoe]

and All the Goodies , i and my 4 brothers and sisters and MOM got them from the DAD until i moved out on my own . And then i got the goodies for myself by working . But as i keep saying , my only objection is the increase of laws , rules , regulations and 'pc' that is increasingly removing Freedom and Liberty piece by piece , bit by bit from Americans .

Like what exactly? Which PC trend or law or regulation is diminishing your liberty in such an effective way. Give me some examples

----------------------- as i already gave 2 example in one of my posts Slade and i was very Specific . And i was Specific in post number 31 Slade . And for years you guys have been going after guns as you work to REMOVE effective and Eficient Guns from the hands of Americans Slade . But as i say , i have seen diminishing Freedom and Liberty in the USA since the mid 60s . The fact that you don't care about what i call important means nothing Slade . [Freedom is Diminishingin the USA ]

Do you have a problem buying a gun where you live? I could go down the street and get one right now. No biggie

The left hates guns " but only in the one in hands of People of a different Political Ideology" I guarantee you the Elite Political Class will not give up the Security afforded by the Deadly force and deterrent that threat brings. They just want " the average person" not to have them! Hard to totally control an armed populace, every Socialist/ Communist Dictator knows that! So Do We the people. ……….. Powder dry!!!!!!

I don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m pretty liberal and I own guns... I have no problem with responsible people owning guns.

--------------------------- and you'd like to Decide WHO is responsible eh Slade .

 

[Slade3200]

Like what exactly? Which PC trend or law or regulation is diminishing your liberty in such an effective way. Give me some examples

----------------------- as i already gave 2 example in one of my posts Slade and i was very Specific . And i was Specific in post number 31 Slade . And for years you guys have been going after guns as you work to REMOVE effective and Eficient Guns from the hands of Americans Slade . But as i say , i have seen diminishing Freedom and Liberty in the USA since the mid 60s . The fact that you don't care about what i call important means nothing Slade . [Freedom is Diminishingin the USA ]

Do you have a problem buying a gun where you live? I could go down the street and get one right now. No biggie

The left hates guns " but only in the one in hands of People of a different Political Ideology" I guarantee you the Elite Political Class will not give up the Security afforded by the Deadly force and deterrent that threat brings. They just want " the average person" not to have them! Hard to totally control an armed populace, every Socialist/ Communist Dictator knows that! So Do We the people. ……….. Powder dry!!!!!!

I don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m pretty liberal and I own guns... I have no problem with responsible people owning guns.

---------------------------------- i think I said that now another diminishing freedom is that Guns are being gone after by government didn't I Slade ?? And yeah , private property where the GOV tells people , even private property owners whether their Patrons can smoke or not Slade . Just MORE diminishing Freedom Slade .

You might think regulations on smoking takes away your freedom but I see it as allowing many others the freedom to breath clean air in public spaces. Again, your free to do whatever you want on your own private property. As for guns, I don’t feel any significant restrictions on my ability to get a gun and I feel safer knowing that crazy people can’t easily purchase dangerous weapons. It comes down to public safety and perspective. You obviously have a very poor and pessimistic perspective making yourself feel oppressed. That’s self inflicted.

 

[Slade3200]

Like what exactly? Which PC trend or law or regulation is diminishing your liberty in such an effective way. Give me some examples

----------------------- as i already gave 2 example in one of my posts Slade and i was very Specific . And i was Specific in post number 31 Slade . And for years you guys have been going after guns as you work to REMOVE effective and Eficient Guns from the hands of Americans Slade . But as i say , i have seen diminishing Freedom and Liberty in the USA since the mid 60s . The fact that you don't care about what i call important means nothing Slade . [Freedom is Diminishingin the USA ]

Do you have a problem buying a gun where you live? I could go down the street and get one right now. No biggie

The left hates guns " but only in the one in hands of People of a different Political Ideology" I guarantee you the Elite Political Class will not give up the Security afforded by the Deadly force and deterrent that threat brings. They just want " the average person" not to have them! Hard to totally control an armed populace, every Socialist/ Communist Dictator knows that! So Do We the people. ……….. Powder dry!!!!!!

I don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m pretty liberal and I own guns... I have no problem with responsible people owning guns.

--------------------------- and you'd like to Decide WHO is responsible eh Slade .

No not me personally... we the people through the representatives we elect. It’s how our country works

 

[pismoe]

just bake that cake even though you object and rent your Poperty to that person even though you don't want to . And as far as smoking , SOME Bar Owners can be told that THEIR property is non smoking even though the owner wants smoking Slade .

 

[pismoe]

and as regards the REPS , they are mostly scum . See 'ilham omar' Slade .

 

[pismoe]

----------------------- as i already gave 2 example in one of my posts Slade and i was very Specific . And i was Specific in post number 31 Slade . And for years you guys have been going after guns as you work to REMOVE effective and Eficient Guns from the hands of Americans Slade . But as i say , i have seen diminishing Freedom and Liberty in the USA since the mid 60s . The fact that you don't care about what i call important means nothing Slade . [Freedom is Diminishingin the USA ]

Do you have a problem buying a gun where you live? I could go down the street and get one right now. No biggie

The left hates guns " but only in the one in hands of People of a different Political Ideology" I guarantee you the Elite Political Class will not give up the Security afforded by the Deadly force and deterrent that threat brings. They just want " the average person" not to have them! Hard to totally control an armed populace, every Socialist/ Communist Dictator knows that! So Do We the people. ……….. Powder dry!!!!!!

I don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m pretty liberal and I own guns... I have no problem with responsible people owning guns.

---------------------------------- i think I said that now another diminishing freedom is that Guns are being gone after by government didn't I Slade ?? And yeah , private property where the GOV tells people , even private property owners whether their Patrons can smoke or not Slade . Just MORE diminishing Freedom Slade .

You might think regulations on smoking takes away your freedom but I see it as allowing many others the freedom to breath clean air in public spaces. Again, your free to do whatever you want on your own private property. As for guns, I don’t feel any significant restrictions on my ability to get a gun and I feel safer knowing that crazy people can’t easily purchase dangerous weapons. It comes down to public safety and perspective. You obviously have a very poor and pessimistic perspective making yourself feel oppressed. That’s self inflicted.

---------------------------------------- I don't feel oppressed , I just recognize realty as I see that Liberty and Freedom are diminishing in the USA and I give examples Slade .

 

[Slade3200]

just bake that cake even though you object and rent your Poperty to that person even though you don't want to . And as far as smoking , SOME Bar Owners can be told that THEIR property is non smoking even though the owner wants smoking Slade .

I actually agree that many regulations on property and required permits are very annoying. I’d vote to repeal them. But I don’t feel like my Liberty is being stripped away and that we are digressing as a country. That’s just plain silly. You can cherry pick many examples but as a whole I completely disagree with your assertion that life was better in this country 80 years ago

 

[pismoe]

just bake that cake even though you object and rent your Poperty to that person even though you don't want to . And as far as smoking , SOME Bar Owners can be told that THEIR property is non smoking even though the owner wants smoking Slade .

I actually agree that many regulations on property and required permits are very annoying. I’d vote to repeal them. But I don’t feel like my Liberty is being stripped away and that we are digressing as a country. That’s just plain silly. You can cherry pick many examples but as a whole I completely disagree with your assertion that life was better in this country 80 years ago

------------------------------------------------- I think my claim or thought is that the USA was more FREE 80 years ago Slade .

 

[pismoe]

and was FREE'ER up until the 60s and early 70s Slade .

 

[Weatherman2020]

Eric Holder goes on MAGA attack: 'Exactly when did you think America was great?'

When did America stop being great to where we have to make it "great again"?? I have never got an answer to that question from a Trumper without them first clutching their pearls and falling on their fainting couch in faux outrage. It's a very simple question, if you feel America was great, then you must be able to point to that time period when it was great -- you must also be able to point to the time period when it stopped... Did it stop in the 2008?, was it in the 90's? -- did it stop in the 80's? 1960's?, the 50's? the roaring 20's? when?

From the article: "...Obama-era attorney general Eric Holder posed the question to MAGA-chanting Trump supporters: "Exactly when did you think America was great? -- .....the Democrats took shots at America's past as part of an effort to criticize President Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan."

How is simply asking the question, when was America great? -- how is that "taking shots at America's past -- but claiming America isn't great now isn't taking shots at America's present? What is so wrong with accepting that America was already great and the whole purpose and intent of this country is to always strive to be greater -- Trump could have easily said "Make America Greater"

However, something tells me it wouldn't have the same appeal as "MAGA" -- maybe because the people he was trying to appeal to don't believe in the concept of making America greater for everyone -- they believe in the concept of "RETURNING AMERICA BACK" to something that was only seen as great for a select few of Americans and if it wasn't so great for other Americans, so what, they aren't real Americans anyway -- but if this isn't the case -- then you should be able to tell us.....when was America great to where it needs to be made great again?

Well, the Obama’s weren’t proud of America until November 2008.

 

[Slade3200]

Do you have a problem buying a gun where you live? I could go down the street and get one right now. No biggie

The left hates guns " but only in the one in hands of People of a different Political Ideology" I guarantee you the Elite Political Class will not give up the Security afforded by the Deadly force and deterrent that threat brings. They just want " the average person" not to have them! Hard to totally control an armed populace, every Socialist/ Communist Dictator knows that! So Do We the people. ……….. Powder dry!!!!!!

I don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m pretty liberal and I own guns... I have no problem with responsible people owning guns.

---------------------------------- i think I said that now another diminishing freedom is that Guns are being gone after by government didn't I Slade ?? And yeah , private property where the GOV tells people , even private property owners whether their Patrons can smoke or not Slade . Just MORE diminishing Freedom Slade .

You might think regulations on smoking takes away your freedom but I see it as allowing many others the freedom to breath clean air in public spaces. Again, your free to do whatever you want on your own private property. As for guns, I don’t feel any significant restrictions on my ability to get a gun and I feel safer knowing that crazy people can’t easily purchase dangerous weapons. It comes down to public safety and perspective. You obviously have a very poor and pessimistic perspective making yourself feel oppressed. That’s self inflicted.

---------------------------------------- I don't feel oppressed , I just recognize realty as I see that Liberty and Freedom are diminishing in the USA and I give examples Slade .

You did give examples. Some are valid concerns and some are nonsense in my opinion. Either way everything adds up to a better country IMO