*Oh Great! 50K Soldiers, Just Sitting Ducks In IRAQ!!*

[rdean]

Obama can't take them out because Bush and Republicans signed contracts and treaties keeping them hostage until Iraq is "rebuilt". We knew this before Bush left office. It was one of the campaign issues.

How quickly they forget.

You are high on crack cocaine.

I love to let the right wing blather on and on. For some reason, they believe the Republicans "follow the law". Isn't that a hoot? Republicans have as much "contempt for the law" as they do for the Middle Class. How did they put it? "Let them sober up and go get a job".

Well, it's time to grab Republican heads and smash their faces into the shit their Messiah, Bush, left when he left a big squat on this country.

Bush was like "Zohan": Smell it, smell it, smell it, now take it".

--------------------------------------------------------------

Treaty or Agreement?

The administration strenuously denies this is a treaty and has already made it clear that it won't take the issue to Congress.

Instead, administration officials compare the impending U.S.-Iraq military relationship to a "status of forces" agreement. The United States has about 100 of these military relationships with countries around the world.

They outline everything from what types of operations American troops can conduct in a foreign country to which laws the troops fall under. Usually, there's a provision that grants U.S. servicemen and women immunity from criminal prosecution in the host country.

The best-known examples are in Japan, South Korea and Germany.

And under the law, the president is entitled to broker a status-of-forces agreement without congressional approval.

Long-Term Pact with Iraq Raises Questions : NPR

Most significant of all, the new partnership deal with Iraq, including a status of forces agreement that would then replace the existing Security Council mandate authorizing the presence of the U.S.-led multinational forces in Iraq, will become a sworn obligation for the next president. It will become just another piece of the complex global security framework involving a hundred or so countries with which Washington now has bilateral defense or security cooperation agreements. Last month, Sen. Hillary Clinton urged Bush not to commit to any such agreement without congressional approval. The president said nothing about that on Saturday, but Lute said last fall that the Iraqi agreement would not likely rise to the level of a formal treaty requiring Senate ratification. Even so, it would be difficult if not impossible for future presidents to unilaterally breach such a pact.

Bush Shakes Up ?08 Iraq Debate - Newsweek

Officials have compared the Iraqi-US military relationship to a "status of forces"
agreement - a military relationship that the U.S. already holds with around one hundred countries all over the world, including Australia, Japan, South Korea and Germany.

Bush Hides Treaty With Iraq Behind a Bush | NowPublic News Coverage

Declaration of Principles for a Long-Term Relationship of Cooperation and Friendship
Between the Republic of Iraq and the United States of America

http://merln.ndu.edu/archivepdf/iraq/WH/20071126-11.pdf

The “Declaration of Principles for a Long-Term Relationship of Cooperation and Friendship” outlines plans for the establishment of permanent US military bases in Iraq to suppress internal opposition to the US-installed regime and protect US economic and political interests throughout the region. It also provides for preferential treatment for US energy conglomerates and investors to exploit Iraq’s newly opened up oil resources.

Under the proposed formula, Iraqi officials told the Associated Press, Iraqi forces will take charge of internal security, and US troops will relocate to bases outside the cities. They foresee at least 50,000 American troops remaining in the country indefinitely. The White House says the bilateral agreement will not contain timetables for the withdrawal of troops.

US Signs Deal for Long-Term Occupation of Iraq | TheMulsim.ca

Iraq Status-Of-Forces Agreement: Why It’s A Really Bad Deal No Matter How You Look At It
Having royally screwed up just about everything else over the past seven-plus years, George Bush’s last best hope of tying the hands of the next administration before heading back to Texas to search for his legacy among the scrub brush is a status-of-forces agreement with Iraq.

Iraq Status-Of-Forces Agreement: Why It’s A Really Bad Deal No Matter How You Look At It | The Moderate Voice

-------------------------------------------------

It's like when Bush left office he removed regulations for clean air and water. One more kick in the ass goodbye to America. He had to do it more than 60 days before he left office for them to stay in place. Just under the wire. One last good "fuck you" to America.

Hey, ask a Republican how Bush was able to keep the cost of both wars out of his budgets? Was THAT legal?

 

[hortysir]

Sorry bout that,


1. Some one tell me why the combat troops are leaving the rest of the very brave soldiers to be *Sitting Ducks* ready to get blown to hell?
2. If I'm in Iraq, I want to protection near by, not in another country, when the shit hits the fan!
3. I can see these cooks and base personnel saying, " Oh shit the damned hairy eye balled arab fuckers are here attacking us, call the combat troops to come back from Pakistan quick, so to fight these bastards off!!!!"
4. Makes no sense to me, but to a libturd and the brain dead, it makes perfect sense.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

How can you call the best trained military in the world "sitting ducks"?
The ones remaining troops are there to train and help the police forces with counter-terrorism techniques.
It's not like we're leaving a bunch of supply clerks.....

 

[Charles_Main]

Obama can't take them out because Bush and Republicans signed contracts and treaties keeping them hostage until Iraq is "rebuilt". We knew this before Bush left office. It was one of the campaign issues.

How quickly they forget.

You are high on crack cocaine.

I love to let the right wing blather on and on. For some reason, they believe the Republicans "follow the law". Isn't that a hoot? Republicans have as much "contempt for the law" as they do for the Middle Class. How did they put it? "Let them sober up and go get a job".

Well, it's time to grab Republican heads and smash their faces into the shit their Messiah, Bush, left when he left a big squat on this country.

Bush was like "Zohan": Smell it, smell it, smell it, now take it".

--------------------------------------------------------------

Treaty or Agreement?

The administration strenuously denies this is a treaty and has already made it clear that it won't take the issue to Congress.

Instead, administration officials compare the impending U.S.-Iraq military relationship to a "status of forces" agreement. The United States has about 100 of these military relationships with countries around the world.

They outline everything from what types of operations American troops can conduct in a foreign country to which laws the troops fall under. Usually, there's a provision that grants U.S. servicemen and women immunity from criminal prosecution in the host country.

The best-known examples are in Japan, South Korea and Germany.

And under the law, the president is entitled to broker a status-of-forces agreement without congressional approval.

Long-Term Pact with Iraq Raises Questions : NPR

Most significant of all, the new partnership deal with Iraq, including a status of forces agreement that would then replace the existing Security Council mandate authorizing the presence of the U.S.-led multinational forces in Iraq, will become a sworn obligation for the next president. It will become just another piece of the complex global security framework involving a hundred or so countries with which Washington now has bilateral defense or security cooperation agreements. Last month, Sen. Hillary Clinton urged Bush not to commit to any such agreement without congressional approval. The president said nothing about that on Saturday, but Lute said last fall that the Iraqi agreement would not likely rise to the level of a formal treaty requiring Senate ratification. Even so, it would be difficult if not impossible for future presidents to unilaterally breach such a pact.

Bush Shakes Up ?08 Iraq Debate - Newsweek

Officials have compared the Iraqi-US military relationship to a "status of forces"
agreement - a military relationship that the U.S. already holds with around one hundred countries all over the world, including Australia, Japan, South Korea and Germany.

Bush Hides Treaty With Iraq Behind a Bush | NowPublic News Coverage

Declaration of Principles for a Long-Term Relationship of Cooperation and Friendship
Between the Republic of Iraq and the United States of America

http://merln.ndu.edu/archivepdf/iraq/WH/20071126-11.pdf

The “Declaration of Principles for a Long-Term Relationship of Cooperation and Friendship” outlines plans for the establishment of permanent US military bases in Iraq to suppress internal opposition to the US-installed regime and protect US economic and political interests throughout the region. It also provides for preferential treatment for US energy conglomerates and investors to exploit Iraq’s newly opened up oil resources.

Under the proposed formula, Iraqi officials told the Associated Press, Iraqi forces will take charge of internal security, and US troops will relocate to bases outside the cities. They foresee at least 50,000 American troops remaining in the country indefinitely. The White House says the bilateral agreement will not contain timetables for the withdrawal of troops.

US Signs Deal for Long-Term Occupation of Iraq | TheMulsim.ca

Iraq Status-Of-Forces Agreement: Why It’s A Really Bad Deal No Matter How You Look At It
Having royally screwed up just about everything else over the past seven-plus years, George Bush’s last best hope of tying the hands of the next administration before heading back to Texas to search for his legacy among the scrub brush is a status-of-forces agreement with Iraq.

Iraq Status-Of-Forces Agreement: Why It’s A Really Bad Deal No Matter How You Look At It | The Moderate Voice

-------------------------------------------------

It's like when Bush left office he removed regulations for clean air and water. One more kick in the ass goodbye to America. He had to do it more than 60 days before he left office for them to stay in place. Just under the wire. One last good "fuck you" to America.

Hey, ask a Republican how Bush was able to keep the cost of both wars out of his budgets? Was THAT legal?

You are such a dumb ass. You first GIANT letters prove my point. The President can Negotiate any Status of Forces Agreement he wants. If he wants them all out he can. With out any congressional Approval. He has chosen to agree with previous assessments and leave 50,000 Troops he could have chosen to bring them home. You are incapable of honesty.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Obama can't take them out because Bush and Republicans signed contracts and treaties keeping them hostage until Iraq is "rebuilt". We knew this before Bush left office. It was one of the campaign issues.

How quickly they forget.

You are high on crack cocaine.

I love to let the right wing blather on and on. For some reason, they believe the Republicans "follow the law". Isn't that a hoot? Republicans have as much "contempt for the law" as they do for the Middle Class. How did they put it? "Let them sober up and go get a job".

Well, it's time to grab Republican heads and smash their faces into the shit their Messiah, Bush, left when he left a big squat on this country.

Bush was like "Zohan": Smell it, smell it, smell it, now take it".

--------------------------------------------------------------

Treaty or Agreement?

The administration strenuously denies this is a treaty and has already made it clear that it won't take the issue to Congress.

Instead, administration officials compare the impending U.S.-Iraq military relationship to a "status of forces" agreement. The United States has about 100 of these military relationships with countries around the world.

They outline everything from what types of operations American troops can conduct in a foreign country to which laws the troops fall under. Usually, there's a provision that grants U.S. servicemen and women immunity from criminal prosecution in the host country.

The best-known examples are in Japan, South Korea and Germany.

And under the law, the president is entitled to broker a status-of-forces agreement without congressional approval.

Long-Term Pact with Iraq Raises Questions : NPR

Most significant of all, the new partnership deal with Iraq, including a status of forces agreement that would then replace the existing Security Council mandate authorizing the presence of the U.S.-led multinational forces in Iraq, will become a sworn obligation for the next president. It will become just another piece of the complex global security framework involving a hundred or so countries with which Washington now has bilateral defense or security cooperation agreements. Last month, Sen. Hillary Clinton urged Bush not to commit to any such agreement without congressional approval. The president said nothing about that on Saturday, but Lute said last fall that the Iraqi agreement would not likely rise to the level of a formal treaty requiring Senate ratification. Even so, it would be difficult if not impossible for future presidents to unilaterally breach such a pact.

Bush Shakes Up ?08 Iraq Debate - Newsweek

Officials have compared the Iraqi-US military relationship to a "status of forces"
agreement - a military relationship that the U.S. already holds with around one hundred countries all over the world, including Australia, Japan, South Korea and Germany.

Bush Hides Treaty With Iraq Behind a Bush | NowPublic News Coverage

Declaration of Principles for a Long-Term Relationship of Cooperation and Friendship
Between the Republic of Iraq and the United States of America

http://merln.ndu.edu/archivepdf/iraq/WH/20071126-11.pdf

The “Declaration of Principles for a Long-Term Relationship of Cooperation and Friendship” outlines plans for the establishment of permanent US military bases in Iraq to suppress internal opposition to the US-installed regime and protect US economic and political interests throughout the region. It also provides for preferential treatment for US energy conglomerates and investors to exploit Iraq’s newly opened up oil resources.

Under the proposed formula, Iraqi officials told the Associated Press, Iraqi forces will take charge of internal security, and US troops will relocate to bases outside the cities. They foresee at least 50,000 American troops remaining in the country indefinitely. The White House says the bilateral agreement will not contain timetables for the withdrawal of troops.

US Signs Deal for Long-Term Occupation of Iraq | TheMulsim.ca

Iraq Status-Of-Forces Agreement: Why It’s A Really Bad Deal No Matter How You Look At It
Having royally screwed up just about everything else over the past seven-plus years, George Bush’s last best hope of tying the hands of the next administration before heading back to Texas to search for his legacy among the scrub brush is a status-of-forces agreement with Iraq.

Iraq Status-Of-Forces Agreement: Why It’s A Really Bad Deal No Matter How You Look At It | The Moderate Voice

-------------------------------------------------

It's like when Bush left office he removed regulations for clean air and water. One more kick in the ass goodbye to America. He had to do it more than 60 days before he left office for them to stay in place. Just under the wire. One last good "fuck you" to America.

Hey, ask a Republican how Bush was able to keep the cost of both wars out of his budgets? Was THAT legal?

As I pointed out earlier, the SOFA that Bush signed was subject to be renegotiated in 2009. Unless I totally missed the memo Obama was president then, so if he just resigned the same one Bush already negotiated that was his choice.

I guess that means you are wrong in your idiotic attempt to blame Bush for what Obama is doing, just like you were wrong to give Obama credit for doing what Bush agreed to do in the SOFA you know admit exists.

 

[rdean]

You are high on crack cocaine.

I love to let the right wing blather on and on. For some reason, they believe the Republicans "follow the law". Isn't that a hoot? Republicans have as much "contempt for the law" as they do for the Middle Class. How did they put it? "Let them sober up and go get a job".

Well, it's time to grab Republican heads and smash their faces into the shit their Messiah, Bush, left when he left a big squat on this country.

Bush was like "Zohan": Smell it, smell it, smell it, now take it".

--------------------------------------------------------------

Treaty or Agreement?

The administration strenuously denies this is a treaty and has already made it clear that it won't take the issue to Congress.

Instead, administration officials compare the impending U.S.-Iraq military relationship to a "status of forces" agreement. The United States has about 100 of these military relationships with countries around the world.

They outline everything from what types of operations American troops can conduct in a foreign country to which laws the troops fall under. Usually, there's a provision that grants U.S. servicemen and women immunity from criminal prosecution in the host country.

The best-known examples are in Japan, South Korea and Germany.

And under the law, the president is entitled to broker a status-of-forces agreement without congressional approval.

Long-Term Pact with Iraq Raises Questions : NPR

Most significant of all, the new partnership deal with Iraq, including a status of forces agreement that would then replace the existing Security Council mandate authorizing the presence of the U.S.-led multinational forces in Iraq, will become a sworn obligation for the next president. It will become just another piece of the complex global security framework involving a hundred or so countries with which Washington now has bilateral defense or security cooperation agreements. Last month, Sen. Hillary Clinton urged Bush not to commit to any such agreement without congressional approval. The president said nothing about that on Saturday, but Lute said last fall that the Iraqi agreement would not likely rise to the level of a formal treaty requiring Senate ratification. Even so, it would be difficult if not impossible for future presidents to unilaterally breach such a pact.

Bush Shakes Up ?08 Iraq Debate - Newsweek

Officials have compared the Iraqi-US military relationship to a "status of forces"
agreement - a military relationship that the U.S. already holds with around one hundred countries all over the world, including Australia, Japan, South Korea and Germany.

Bush Hides Treaty With Iraq Behind a Bush | NowPublic News Coverage

Declaration of Principles for a Long-Term Relationship of Cooperation and Friendship
Between the Republic of Iraq and the United States of America

http://merln.ndu.edu/archivepdf/iraq/WH/20071126-11.pdf

The “Declaration of Principles for a Long-Term Relationship of Cooperation and Friendship” outlines plans for the establishment of permanent US military bases in Iraq to suppress internal opposition to the US-installed regime and protect US economic and political interests throughout the region. It also provides for preferential treatment for US energy conglomerates and investors to exploit Iraq’s newly opened up oil resources.

Under the proposed formula, Iraqi officials told the Associated Press, Iraqi forces will take charge of internal security, and US troops will relocate to bases outside the cities. They foresee at least 50,000 American troops remaining in the country indefinitely. The White House says the bilateral agreement will not contain timetables for the withdrawal of troops.

US Signs Deal for Long-Term Occupation of Iraq | TheMulsim.ca

Iraq Status-Of-Forces Agreement: Why It’s A Really Bad Deal No Matter How You Look At It
Having royally screwed up just about everything else over the past seven-plus years, George Bush’s last best hope of tying the hands of the next administration before heading back to Texas to search for his legacy among the scrub brush is a status-of-forces agreement with Iraq.

Iraq Status-Of-Forces Agreement: Why It’s A Really Bad Deal No Matter How You Look At It | The Moderate Voice

-------------------------------------------------

It's like when Bush left office he removed regulations for clean air and water. One more kick in the ass goodbye to America. He had to do it more than 60 days before he left office for them to stay in place. Just under the wire. One last good "fuck you" to America.

Hey, ask a Republican how Bush was able to keep the cost of both wars out of his budgets? Was THAT legal?

You are such a dumb ass. You first GIANT letters prove my point. The President can Negotiate any Status of Forces Agreement he wants. If he wants them all out he can. With out any congressional Approval. He has chosen to agree with previous assessments and leave 50,000 Troops he could have chosen to bring them home. You are incapable of honesty.

For Republicans, reneging on treaties and agreements is "no big thing". Our country paid in blood and treasure thousands of American lives and trillions of dollars and those on this board say, "If he wants he could just walk away. Screw any agreement".

As if what we lost there was "Ho hum, no big deal. I'm getting sleepy now".

For "real" Americans, Iraq has been an unparalleled disaster. We leveled a country. We broke it, now we buy it. For Republicans, it's easy to just "walk away". They did that in New Orleans after Katrina. They did that after their policies destroyed the economy. They say, "Do it in Iraq, just walk away".

 

[rdean]

Sorry bout that,


1. Some one tell me why the combat troops are leaving the rest of the very brave soldiers to be *Sitting Ducks* ready to get blown to hell?
2. If I'm in Iraq, I want to protection near by, not in another country, when the shit hits the fan!
3. I can see these cooks and base personnel saying, " Oh shit the damned hairy eye balled arab fuckers are here attacking us, call the combat troops to come back from Pakistan quick, so to fight these bastards off!!!!"
4. Makes no sense to me, but to a libturd and the brain dead, it makes perfect sense.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

How can you call the best trained military in the world "sitting ducks"?
The ones remaining troops are there to train and help the police forces with counter-terrorism techniques.
It's not like we're leaving a bunch of supply clerks.....

True, but it's sad that we have to leave any at all.