Obstruction Of Congress?

[kyzr]

That's why we elected Trump!!!! It's called Separation of Powers. The President of the U.S. is a check against a runaway Legislative Branch. This is not a high crime and misdemeaner. Unless you want to rescind the Constitution. Which Democrats are trying to do.

the constitution gives the president the 'power of the Veto' as his only check on the legislative Branch.... congress.

the legislative branch of our government, congress.... is who represents ''we the people'', all of our power to rule ourselves is vested in the house of representatives... NOT the president, not the senate....

when you argue to make the president and executive branch stronger, and to weaken the House, you are taking your own power and representation and right to govern ourselves, AWAY FROM US.

PLEASE reconsider your hurtful and harmful to us American citizen's right, to govern ourselves.

The framers rejected the parliamentary system where the president is just a figurehead.
The US co-equal system requires the judiciary to break ties when the President and Congress disagree.
All three branches form the government "of the people".
You seem to imply that the House is the "primary" governing body, which I strongly disagree with.

All 3 work together as equal branches, the congress is our direct representation.... we have representatives that we choose, via direct vote.

And no, the supreme court is there simply to determine what is or is not, constitutional..... not to decide partisan fights, is my understanding?

The USSC just took the Trump v House subpoena for tax records.
That proves that Trump does have due process rights, and that going to court is NOT "Obstruction of the House"
Supreme Court ruling pulls rug out from under article of impeachment
"That second article of impeachment charges President Trump with obstruction of Congress for refusing to comply with the congressional subpoenas in the absence of a final court order. In so charging him, the House Judiciary Committee has arrogated to itself the power to decide the validity of subpoenas, and the power to determine whether claims of executive privilege must be recognized, both authorities that properly belong with the judicial branch of our government, not the legislative branch."

 

[Care4all]

That's why we elected Trump!!!! It's called Separation of Powers. The President of the U.S. is a check against a runaway Legislative Branch. This is not a high crime and misdemeaner. Unless you want to rescind the Constitution. Which Democrats are trying to do.

the constitution gives the president the 'power of the Veto' as his only check on the legislative Branch.... congress.

the legislative branch of our government, congress.... is who represents ''we the people'', all of our power to rule ourselves is vested in the house of representatives... NOT the president, not the senate....

when you argue to make the president and executive branch stronger, and to weaken the House, you are taking your own power and representation and right to govern ourselves, AWAY FROM US.

PLEASE reconsider your hurtful and harmful to us American citizen's right, to govern ourselves.

The framers rejected the parliamentary system where the president is just a figurehead.
The US co-equal system requires the judiciary to break ties when the President and Congress disagree.
All three branches form the government "of the people".
You seem to imply that the House is the "primary" governing body, which I strongly disagree with.

All 3 work together as equal branches, the congress is our direct representation.... we have representatives that we choose, via direct vote.

And no, the supreme court is there simply to determine what is or is not, constitutional..... not to decide partisan fights, is my understanding?

The USSC just took the Trump v House subpoena for tax records.
That proves that Trump does have due process rights, and that going to court is NOT "Obstruction of the House"
Supreme Court ruling pulls rug out from under article of impeachment
"That second article of impeachment charges President Trump with obstruction of Congress for refusing to comply with the congressional subpoenas in the absence of a final court order. In so charging him, the House Judiciary Committee has arrogated to itself the power to decide the validity of subpoenas, and the power to determine whether claims of executive privilege must be recognized, both authorities that properly belong with the judicial branch of our government, not the legislative branch."

Their decision will be based on his personal, constitutional rights, all courts before the SC have stated, he has to turn them over, according to laws.... we will see if the SC agrees!

 

[busybee01]

That's why we elected Trump!!!! It's called Separation of Powers. The President of the U.S. is a check against a runaway Legislative Branch. This is not a high crime and misdemeaner. Unless you want to rescind the Constitution. Which Democrats are trying to do.

There are also checks and balances. Congress has certain powers such as the power of the purse and the power of oversight. These are the powers that Trump is ignoring. It is Trump that wants to rescind the Constitution as he thinks he is a king who can do anything he wants. His conduct is a high crime and misdemeanor.

 

[busybee01]

That's why we elected Trump!!!! It's called Separation of Powers. The President of the U.S. is a check against a runaway Legislative Branch. This is not a high crime and misdemeaner. Unless you want to rescind the Constitution. Which Democrats are trying to do.

If filing suit in federal court to fight a congressional subpoena is a "High Crime", then B. Hussein O and his Wing Man Eric Holder are as guilty as hell too.

Maybe they need to be picked up for these crimes, alert the FBI to pick him up at his golf club on Oahu.

That is untrue. Even in Fast and Furious, the Obama Administration provided a large number of documents. He did not stonewall and refuse to turn over any information. There was some information that they did not turn over.

 

[Polishprince]

That's why we elected Trump!!!! It's called Separation of Powers. The President of the U.S. is a check against a runaway Legislative Branch. This is not a high crime and misdemeaner. Unless you want to rescind the Constitution. Which Democrats are trying to do.

If filing suit in federal court to fight a congressional subpoena is a "High Crime", then B. Hussein O and his Wing Man Eric Holder are as guilty as hell too.

Maybe they need to be picked up for these crimes, alert the FBI to pick him up at his golf club on Oahu.

That is untrue. Even in Fast and Furious, the Obama Administration provided a large number of documents. He did not stonewall and refuse to turn over any information. There was some information that they did not turn over.

Obama did NOT provide all of the documents to Congress immediately and without question. In fact, he argued that he didn't have to in front of the courts

That is definitely Obstruction of Congress

 

[Crepitus]

That's why we elected Trump!!!! It's called Separation of Powers. The President of the U.S. is a check against a runaway Legislative Branch. This is not a high crime and misdemeaner. Unless you want to rescind the Constitution. Which Democrats are trying to do.

Wow are you confused! I mean damn!

It's tRumpy ou need to be yelling "speration of powers!" at. He has done his best to marginalize both houses and to make the courts partisan.

 

[Meister]

That's why we elected Trump!!!! It's called Separation of Powers. The President of the U.S. is a check against a runaway Legislative Branch. This is not a high crime and misdemeaner. Unless you want to rescind the Constitution. Which Democrats are trying to do.

Apparently a Democrat Congress is "more equal" than a Republican president

It's time to quit pretending what the end goal is for republicans. Just say you want a king who is unaccountable to the common rabble.

t's time to quit pretending what the end goal is for democrats. Just say you want remove a duly elected president, just because your old hag lost.

 

[berg80]

That's why we elected Trump!!!! It's called Separation of Powers. The President of the U.S. is a check against a runaway Legislative Branch. This is not a high crime and misdemeaner. Unless you want to rescind the Constitution. Which Democrats are trying to do.

If filing suit in federal court to fight a congressional subpoena is a "High Crime", then B. Hussein O and his Wing Man Eric Holder are as guilty as hell too.

Maybe they need to be picked up for these crimes, alert the FBI to pick him up at his golf club on Oahu.

"Justice says it's not trying to cover anything up, noting that it has turned over 7,600 documents and that Holder has testified before Congress nine times about Fast and Furious."
Eric Holder, Contempt of Congress, and Fast and Furious: What You Need to Know

That's a pretty stark contrast with Trump's total stonewalling.

 

[Polishprince]

That's why we elected Trump!!!! It's called Separation of Powers. The President of the U.S. is a check against a runaway Legislative Branch. This is not a high crime and misdemeaner. Unless you want to rescind the Constitution. Which Democrats are trying to do.

If filing suit in federal court to fight a congressional subpoena is a "High Crime", then B. Hussein O and his Wing Man Eric Holder are as guilty as hell too.

Maybe they need to be picked up for these crimes, alert the FBI to pick him up at his golf club on Oahu.

"Justice says it's not trying to cover anything up, noting that it has turned over 7,600 documents and that Holder has testified before Congress nine times about Fast and Furious."
Eric Holder, Contempt of Congress, and Fast and Furious: What You Need to Know

That's a pretty stark contrast with Trump's total stonewalling.

President Trump cooperated without question with the Lefturd Special Persecutor Robert Mueller. Donald Jr. spoke for 30 hours to Mueller's Witch Hunters. Hundreds of other Innocents also testified at tremendous inconvenience and expense. If Congress wants the information, that's where its at.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

That's why we elected Trump!!!! It's called Separation of Powers. The President of the U.S. is a check against a runaway Legislative Branch. This is not a high crime and misdemeaner. Unless you want to rescind the Constitution. Which Democrats are trying to do.

the constitution gives the president the 'power of the Veto' as his only check on the legislative Branch.... congress.

the legislative branch of our government, congress.... is who represents ''we the people'', all of our power to rule ourselves is vested in the house of representatives... NOT the president, not the senate....

when you argue to make the president and executive branch stronger, and to weaken the House, you are taking your own power and representation and right to govern ourselves, AWAY FROM US.

PLEASE reconsider your hurtful and harmful to us American citizen's right, to govern ourselves.

Govern ourselves = free markets not universal healthcare where freeloaders get to live off my hard earned monies.

 

[Meister]

That's why we elected Trump!!!! It's called Separation of Powers. The President of the U.S. is a check against a runaway Legislative Branch. This is not a high crime and misdemeaner. Unless you want to rescind the Constitution. Which Democrats are trying to do.

If filing suit in federal court to fight a congressional subpoena is a "High Crime", then B. Hussein O and his Wing Man Eric Holder are as guilty as hell too.

Maybe they need to be picked up for these crimes, alert the FBI to pick him up at his golf club on Oahu.

"Justice says it's not trying to cover anything up, noting that it has turned over 7,600 documents and that Holder has testified before Congress nine times about Fast and Furious."
Eric Holder, Contempt of Congress, and Fast and Furious: What You Need to Know

That's a pretty stark contrast with Trump's total stonewalling.

What? Apparently, he gave documents that were not germaine to the case.

Holder held in contempt

By JOHN BRESNAHAN and SEUNG MIN KIM


06/28/2012 04:43 PM EDT


Updated 06/28/2012 05:47 PM EDT

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The House has voted to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress over his failure to turn over documents related to the Fast and Furious scandal, the first time Congress has taken such a dramatic move against a sitting Cabinet official.

The vote was 255-67, with 17 Democrats voting in support of a criminal contempt resolution, which authorizes Republicans leaders to seek criminal charges against Holder. This Democratic support came despite a round of behind-the-scenes lobbying by senior White House and Justice officials - as well as pressure from party leaders - to support Holder.
Holder held in contempt

 

[The Original Tree]

That's why we elected Trump!!!! It's called Separation of Powers. The President of the U.S. is a check against a runaway Legislative Branch. This is not a high crime and misdemeaner. Unless you want to rescind the Constitution. Which Democrats are trying to do.

The House wants to break the wall of separation of powers, and usurp executive branch powers as part of their initiative to Fundamentally Transform America and implement "Structural Change"

They have planned this since Obama's Presidency and are just using The Trump Administration as target practice to see how far they can get with it.

They want to remove The Electoral College, and Make The President Subservient to Congress, which effectively would give us One Party Rule, and a Nation Governed by California and New York

 

[berg80]

President Trump cooperated without question with the Lefturd Special Persecutor Robert Mueller. Donald Jr. spoke for 30 hours to Mueller's Witch Hunters. Hundreds of other Innocents also testified at tremendous inconvenience and expense. If Congress wants the information, that's where its at.

You must be one of those "alternate fact" folks.

Justice Dept. confirms Trump Jr. and McGahn did not testify to Mueller grand jury
Justice Dept. confirms Trump Jr. and McGahn did not testify to Mueller grand jury

As for Big Fat Don, he refused to answer..........even in written form.............any questions about obstruction. The written answers provided about the Russian part of the inquiry were "inadequate."

Mueller thought Trump's written answers were "inadequate"
Mueller thought Trump's written answers were "inadequate"

 

[Meister]

President Trump cooperated without question with the Lefturd Special Persecutor Robert Mueller. Donald Jr. spoke for 30 hours to Mueller's Witch Hunters. Hundreds of other Innocents also testified at tremendous inconvenience and expense. If Congress wants the information, that's where its at.

You must be one of those "alternate fact" folks.

Justice Dept. confirms Trump Jr. and McGahn did not testify to Mueller grand jury
Justice Dept. confirms Trump Jr. and McGahn did not testify to Mueller grand jury

As for Big Fat Don, he refused to answer..........even in written form.............any questions about obstruction. The written answers provided about the Russian part of the inquiry were "inadequate."

Mueller thought Trump's written answers were "inadequate"
Mueller thought Trump's written answers were "inadequate"

So....you're still on Russia Russia Russia?

 

[BluesLegend]

That's why we elected Trump!!!! It's called Separation of Powers. The President of the U.S. is a check against a runaway Legislative Branch. This is not a high crime and misdemeaner. Unless you want to rescind the Constitution. Which Democrats are trying to do.

Just as the legislative branch (congress) is a check and balance on the executive branch, the executive branch is also a check and balance on the legislative branch. That's not obstructing congress its exercising constitutional executive branch powers. Dem's are trying to spin.

 

[berg80]

What? Apparently, he gave documents that were not germaine to the case.

Actually, he drew the line when Issa's fishing expedition for documents extended to a time period for which Holder had no involvement in the matter. Issa was out of control.

Subpoena-Happy Issa Goes On Yet Another Substance-Free Fishing Expedition
Subpoena-Happy Issa Goes On Yet Another Substance-Free Fishing Expedition

 

[Meister]

What? Apparently, he gave documents that were not germaine to the case.

Actually, he drew the line when Issa's fishing expedition for documents extended to a time period for which Holder had no involvement in the matter. Issa was out of control.

Subpoena-Happy Issa Goes On Yet Another Substance-Free Fishing Expedition
Subpoena-Happy Issa Goes On Yet Another Substance-Free Fishing Expedition

Actually, Holder drew the line when the documents could incriminate his messiah.

 

[Leo123]

That's why we elected Trump!!!! It's called Separation of Powers. The President of the U.S. is a check against a runaway Legislative Branch. This is not a high crime and misdemeaner. Unless you want to rescind the Constitution. Which Democrats are trying to do.

Separation of powers means oversight

Trump is not a dictator

Trump has oversight to protect the powers given to the Executive branch when it is threatened by another branch.

 

[Leo123]

The house of representatives directly represents The People in government and was tasked with oversight of the executive. Why is this a controversial issue?

Yes the House does directly represent The People however you fail to mention that the Senate and the President also represent the will of The People and are meant to temper a straight Democracy which would be catastrophic. You seem to want to play around with Constitutional fact and what you left out tells volumes about your apparent lack of understanding.

Definition of a straight Democracy: 5 people, 3 men and 2 women. Men vote to rape the women. Guess what? The majority wins.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

That's why we elected Trump!!!! It's called Separation of Powers. The President of the U.S. is a check against a runaway Legislative Branch. This is not a high crime and misdemeaner. Unless you want to rescind the Constitution. Which Democrats are trying to do.

the constitution gives the president the 'power of the Veto' as his only check on the legislative Branch.... congress.

the legislative branch of our government, congress.... is who represents ''we the people'', all of our power to rule ourselves is vested in the house of representatives... NOT the president, not the senate....

when you argue to make the president and executive branch stronger, and to weaken the House, you are taking your own power and representation and right to govern ourselves, AWAY FROM US.

PLEASE reconsider your hurtful and harmful to us American citizen's right, to govern ourselves.

Bush weakened the presidencey. Trump is just getting it back.

Deal with it.

Looking forward to seeing prayer in schools.