Obama’s nuke deal will not have the force of law!

johnwk

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We are told that Obama’s nuke deal is not a treaty but a “Sole Executive Agreement”, and therefore, it does not require a two thirds approval vote by the United States Senate to have the force of law.

Of course, this assertion raises an immediate red flag because there is no mention in our Constitution delegating a power to the president to make a “Sole Executive Agreement” with foreign governments. As a matter of fact the limited power granted to the President in our Constitution regarding deals with foreign governments is stated as follows:

The President “… shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur…”

So, what is meant by the word “treaty” as the word was used and understood by our founders, and requires a two thirds approval vote by our Senate to have the force of law?

In Federalist No. 64 Jay defines a treaty as a “bargain” . He writes:

”These gentlemen would do well to reflect that a treaty is only another name for a bargain, and that it would be impossible to find a nation who would make any bargain with us, which should be binding on them ABSOLUTELY, but on us only so long and so far as we may think proper to be bound by it.”


And in Federalist No. 75 Hamilton tells us with reference to a treaty, “Its objects are CONTRACTS with foreign nations, which have the force of law…” So, we begin to learn that the word treaty as found in our Constitution is synonymous with a contract or bargain.

In addition to Hamilton’s use of the word “CONTRACTS” to describe a “treaty”, he goes on to explain why the president was not granted an arbitrary power to make “CONTRACTS with foreign nations, which have the force of law” unless approved by a two thirds vote. Hamilton points out the president, if he had such power:

“might sometimes be under temptations to sacrifice his duty to his interest, which it would require superlative virtue to withstand. An avaricious man might be tempted to betray the interests of the state to the acquisition of wealth. An ambitious man might make his own aggrandizement, by the aid of a foreign power, the price of his treachery to his constituents. The history of human conduct does not warrant that exalted opinion of human virtue which would make it wise in a nation to commit interests of so delicate and momentous a kind, as those which concern its intercourse with the rest of the world, to the sole disposal of a magistrate created and circumstanced as would be a President of the United States.”

So, as it turns out, our founders intentionally commanded by our Constitution, that any deals cooked up by the president with a foreign power would not have “the force of law” unless approved by a thirds vote in the Senate.

It is also important to note how much our founders feared an omnipotent president, and this is established when they refused giving the President Line-item veto power! Benjamin Franklin, on June 4th of the Constitutional Convention reminds the delegates how they suffered under that power and why it should not be given to the president. Franklin says:

'”The negative of the governor was constantly made use of to extort money. No good law whatever could be passed without a private bargain with him. An increase of salary or some donation, was always made a condition; till at last, it became the regular practice to have orders in his favor on the treasury presented along with the bills to be signed, so that he might actually receive the former before he should sign the latter. When the Indians were scalping the Western people, and notice of it arrived, the concurrence of the governor in the means of self-defense could not be got, until it was agreed that the people were to fight for the security of his property, whilst he was to have no share of the burdens of taxation.''

After reviewing the above documentation it becomes crystal clear that Obama’s nuke deal with Iran will not have the force of law unless approved by a two thirds vote in the Senate.

JWK


The whole aim of construction, as applied to a provision of the Constitution, is to discover the meaning, to ascertain and give effect to the intent of its framers and the people who adopted it.
_____HOME BLDG. & LOAN ASS'N v. BLAISDELL, 290 U.S. 398 (1934)
 
Obama must be doing powerful drugs to think this is a good idea.


I don't think it has anything to do with him taking drugs.

JWK

When will the America People realize we have an Islamic cell operating out of our nation's White House? Will they come to this conclusion when Obama allows Iran to make the component parts for a nuclear arsenal?
 
His good idea is something to put in the Presidential Library. So far, it looks pretty empty. Maybe some of hisschool accomplishments can fill the hallowed halls..no, wait...
 
The bottom line is, Obama's nuke deal will not have the force of law unless it gets a two thirds approval vote in the Senate, just as our Constitution commands.


JWK
 
The bottom line is, Obama's nuke deal will not have the force of law unless it gets a two thirds approval vote in the Senate, just as our Constitution commands.
He could act as if the Senate had approved by ordering the State Dept. and the military to follow its terms. Then it would be up to Congress to prove they can get it together to impeach and convict. That would hardly be a slam dunk, since the Iran deal is probably the best we're going to do anyway and many would rather have elections take care of the situation, rather than launching another impeachment fiasco.
 
Our Fifth Column news media is in bed with Obama’s nuke deal


Has anyone noticed that our Fifth Column media is not stressing the provision in our Constitution requiring a two thirds approval vote to finalize any deals cooked up by our president with foreign countries has been turned on its head?

To finalize Obama’s deal, a two thirds disapproval is needed to reject the deal instead of a two thirds approval vote as our Constitution commands!

Has anyone heard Fox News, or any other big media, discussing the documented intentions of our Founding Fathers regarding the president’s deal making powers as found in the Federalist Papers, Madison’s Notes, or Elliot’s Debates ___ all of which confirm any deal cooked up by our president with foreign governments require a two thirds approval vote?

Once again we find our Washington Establishment, including our Republican Party Leadership, more than willing to ignore both the text and legislative intent of our Constitution, and our Fifth Column media acting in collusion with them to circumvent the very intentions and beliefs under which our Constitution was agreed to.

JWK

"The Constitution is the act of the people, speaking in their original character, and defining the permanent conditions of the social alliance; and there can be no doubt on the point with us, that every act of the legislative power contrary to the true intent and meaning of the Constitution, is absolutely null and void. ___ Chancellor James Kent, in his Commentaries on American Law (1858)

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We are told that Obama’s nuke deal is not a treaty but a “Sole Executive Agreement”, and therefore, it does not require a two thirds approval vote by the United States Senate to have the force of law.

Of course, this assertion raises an immediate red flag because there is no mention in our Constitution delegating a power to the president to make a “Sole Executive Agreement” with foreign governments.

There is also nothing in the constitution that delegates a power to the President to take a shit in the toilet either. Yet somehow, you still managed to post this...
 
The Republican Party Leadership is working hand in hand with Obama to get this deal passed. That is why they have defied the constitutional requirement of a two thirds approval vote to finalize the deal and turned this constitutional provision on its head by requiring a two thirds disapproval vote is needed to reject the deal, a move which violates both the text and legislative intent of our Constitution which I have documented.


In addition, our Fifth Column media has already been successful in getting the people to discuss the merits or shortfalls of the deal rather than how our Constitution's required two thirds approval vote has been changed to require a two thirds disapprove to reject the deal which is blatantly unconstitutional!


Heck, even Rush Limbaugh has spent the afternoon wrapped up in discussing the particulars of the deal rather than how our Constitution is once again being turned on its head.


What will it take for the America People to realize how deep and expansive the iron fist of our tyrannical federal government is, which appears to have control over most of our alleged "conservative" media personalities who seem, by their avoidance to defend our written Constitution's text and legislative intent, to be well paid actors, pretending to be conservatives.


If this deal goes through, our children and grandchildren will suffer the consequences of having to live in fear of a nuke attack from a terrorist state named IRAN.


JWK




We are here today and gone tomorrow, but what is most important is what we do in between, and is what our children will inherit and remember us by.
 
Obama threatens to veto any attempt to block nuke deal


See Obama threatens to veto any attempt to block Iran nuclear deal

07/14/15

”I will veto any legislation that prevents the successful implementation of this deal," Obama said in a statement at the White House, with Vice President Biden standing alongside him, adding that he welcomes a robust debate over the terms of the deal.”

And so, the question is, under what provision in our Constitution does Obama get to veto the Senates failure to gather the required two thirds approval vote to finalize any deals cooked up by our president with foreign governments?

Our Constitution is crystal clear when it states:

The President “… shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur…”

There is nothing in that wording allowing the president to “veto” the Senate’s refusal to agree with a deal cooked up by the president with foreign countries.

In fact, without the Senate’s two thirds approval vote, the deal cannot be finalized and the president must consider the Senate’s advice to make the deal acceptable.

Why is our Republican Controlled Congress submitting to Obama’s shredding of our Constitution? Why is our Republican controlled Senate refusing to invoke one of the important protections written into our Constitution by our Founding Fathers __ a protection to insure there is a two thirds approval vote to finalize any deals cooked up by our present with foreign governments?


JWK

"The Constitution is the act of the people, speaking in their original character, and defining the permanent conditions of the social alliance; and there can be no doubt on the point with us, that every act of the legislative power contrary to the true intent and meaning of the Constitution, is absolutely null and void. ___ Chancellor James Kent, in his Commentaries on American Law (1858)
 
Rand Paul is flat wrong about the Corker Amendment.



This evening [Tuesday] while on Hannity's show, Rand Paul made a very, very inaccurate statement. He stated the same results occur under the Corker Amendment as occurs under the Constitution’s treaty making power. That is simply not true. Under the treaty making power a super majority vote is needed to approve Obama’s deal. Under the Corker Amendment, a super majority vote is needed to disapprove Obama’s deal. Why has Rand Paul misrepresented the facts?


JWK




When will the America People realize we have an Islamic cell operating out of our nation's White House? Will they come to this conclusion when Obama allows Iran to make the component parts for a nuclear arsenal?
 
When will the America People realize we have an Islamic cell operating out of our nation's White House? Will they come to this conclusion when Obama allows Iran to make the component parts for a nuclear arsenal?
When will the wingnuts realize that this type of post just makes them seem deranged? :cool-45:
 
When will the America People realize we have an Islamic cell operating out of our nation's White House? Will they come to this conclusion when Obama allows Iran to make the component parts for a nuclear arsenal?
When will the wingnuts realize that this type of post just makes them seem deranged? :cool-45:


The sad truth is, Obama has added more to the national debt than any other president;


He has given aid and comfort to our enemies by releasing them from GITMO;


He has attempted to strike a deal with a hostile foreign nation behind closed doors and without the consent of the United State Senate being required as commanded by our Constitution;


He is allowing a thousand Islamic "refugees" into the U.S. each month without a requirement to renounce their allegiance to their country of origin, and swear an allegiance to the United States:


He has transferred America’s weapons of defense and military technology to hostile Islamic leaders [the Islamic Brother Hood];


He has stood by and allowed an Islamic terrorist state to move forward with producing the component parts for a nuclear arsenal;


He has allowed our southern border to be invaded by the poverty stricken populations of Mexico and Central America;


He has decided to prop up the communist government of Cuba by normalizing relations, which in turn will yield a needed infusion of money to strengthen this government’s iron fist around the necks of its citizens;


He has released thousands of criminal illegal aliens into our nation’s population;


He is responsible for undermining our election process by making it easy for ineligible persons to vote;


He has interfered with our nation’s ability to develop our natural resources, namely oil, coal and natural gas to fuel our economy;


He has worked to stifle America’s agricultural industry and ability to produce food under the guise of environmental necessity;


He has intentionally sabotaged our nation’s health care delivery system:


He has blatantly impinged upon the American People’s inalienable right to make their own choices and decisions regarding their health care and medical needs;


He is responsible for a dramatic increase in the number of people receiving food stamps;


He is responsible for a dramatic drop in fulltime employment;


He is responsible for a dramatic increase in the unemployment rate of our nation’s Black youth;


He has used the force of our federal government to tax the paychecks of hard working people living in our nation’s inner cities and then transferred $ billions from our federal treasury to his inner circle friends under the guise of “green energy” [Solyndra/Chevy Volt/Fisker, Exelon, etc.];


He has repeatedly circumvented our Republican Form of Government by issuing Executive Orders and memorandums;


He has stood by and allowed his Administration to use the force of the federal government to attack "conservatives" who dare to exercise their right to freedom of speech;



Who can truthfully deny Obama is intentionally attempting to destroy America from within?


JWK
 

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