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Having illegals go to low cost clinics would be much cheaper than the ER care they get now...ever consider a GODDAMN modern country, MUCH CHEAPER and BETTER than this GODAMN Pub mess, Grampa? STUPID hater MESS it is...
Having illegals go to low cost clinics would be much cheaper than the ER care they get now...ever consider a GODDAMN modern country, MUCH CHEAPER and BETTER than this GODAMN Pub mess, Grampa? STUPID hater MESS it is...
Because he probaly is one.Why are you so much in support of illegals and an open border with Mexico?They can only get emergency health care "on our dime"....It's touching how you pubs just love your illegal aliens totally discriminated against, real low wages, no rights....course you're racists too...very nice.
there is NO HOSPITAL or Clinic right now that requires anyone going to their facilities for healthcare to prove their citizenship, before they will be given treatment for their illness.i'm sorry, CNS news is not a trust worthy source for the most part grampa....so, they could be accurate on this, BUT I would need a legitimate source to back them up! I will search for one.... but here is a link that CNS gave in your link from them...HHS: Obamacare-Funded Health Centers for 'Migrants' Won't Check Immigration Status | CNSnews.com
Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) announced on Tuesday that it has awarded $28.8 million to 67 community health centers with funds from the Obamacare health reform law.
Of that $28.8 million, "approximately $8.5 million will be used by 25 New Access Point awardees to target services to migrant and seasonal farm workers," Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) Spokeswoman Judy Andrews told CNSNews.com. HRSA is a part of HHS.
Andrews said that grant recipients will not check the immigration status of people seeking services.
and it says nothing that supports THEIR claim.
HHS awards Affordable Care Act funds to expand access to health care
Well im sorry. I dont patronise their site I just googled it and thats what came up. Are they truely uncredible or is that a partisan viewpoint? Anyways I looked it up again and got this one...
Obamacare: migrant farm workers to be covered under healthcare reform « America's Watchtower
We all remember the speech Barack Obama gave back in 2009 in front of a joint session of Congress during the Obamacare debate; this is the speech where Barack Obama tried to assure the American people that Obamacare would only cover people who were in this country legally.
The reforms Im proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally
This is the same speech in which Joe Wilson yelled you lie at the president after Barack Obama made this claim. The outrage from the left was swift and all encompassing; one Democrat went so far as to claim that Joe Wilsons comment would lead to a resurgence of the KKK, and eventually Joe Wilson was rebuked for his actions by the Congress even though he had called the president shortly after the speech and apologized.
But while all of the attention during this episode was focused on whether or not this was the proper place for Joe Wilson to make his statement, nobody seemed to remember to ask the question is Joe Wilson right? And that is a shame because it now appears as if Joe Wilson was right, even if he went about it the wrong way.
According to this article the Department of Health and Human Services has allotted nearly $30 million to special community health centers, and of that $30 million, $8.5 million will be used to target migrant farm workers. We all know that the term migrant farm workers is a politically correct codename for illegal aliens hired by farm owners to pick vegetables in the field because this is one of those jobs that George W Bush quipped was one that Americans wouldnt do.
And the HRSA is admitting that the immigration status of those seeking services will not be checked:
Health centers do not, as a matter of routine practice, ask about or collect data on citizenship or other matters not related to the treatment needs of the patients seeking health services at the center
The Programs authorizing statute does not affirmatively address immigration status, said Andrews. Rather, it simply states that health centers are required to provide primary health care to all residents of the health centers service area without regard for ability to pay
So immigration status will not be checked, and all residents of the arealegal and illegalwill gain access to the services provided, and because there are a large amount of illegal aliens doing these jobs it stands to reason that they will receive healthcare under this initiative in the Obamacare legislation.
Joe Wilson may have gone about it the wrong way, but in the end he was right. There are no protectionsat least in this portion of the billwhich would ensure that illegal aliens arent qualified to receive free benefits under the Obamacare legislation.
I saw this as well and though that it was very interesting as I never thought about it this way but it was worth reposting.............
Lets not forget that LEGAL citizens are required to participate in the health care program or be subject to fines.
Correct me if Im wrong but Illegals not only will not be required to show ID but they will also not be subject o any penalties as well.
Just more reason to start seriously cracking down and getting them the hell out of here.there is NO HOSPITAL or Clinic right now that requires anyone going to their facilities for healthcare to prove their citizenship, before they will be given treatment for their illness.i'm sorry, CNS news is not a trust worthy source for the most part grampa....so, they could be accurate on this, BUT I would need a legitimate source to back them up! I will search for one.... but here is a link that CNS gave in your link from them...
and it says nothing that supports THEIR claim.
HHS awards Affordable Care Act funds to expand access to health care
Well im sorry. I dont patronise their site I just googled it and thats what came up. Are they truely uncredible or is that a partisan viewpoint? Anyways I looked it up again and got this one...
Obamacare: migrant farm workers to be covered under healthcare reform « America's Watchtower
We all remember the speech Barack Obama gave back in 2009 in front of a joint session of Congress during the Obamacare debate; this is the speech where Barack Obama tried to assure the American people that Obamacare would only cover people who were in this country legally.
The reforms Im proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally
This is the same speech in which Joe Wilson yelled you lie at the president after Barack Obama made this claim. The outrage from the left was swift and all encompassing; one Democrat went so far as to claim that Joe Wilsons comment would lead to a resurgence of the KKK, and eventually Joe Wilson was rebuked for his actions by the Congress even though he had called the president shortly after the speech and apologized.
But while all of the attention during this episode was focused on whether or not this was the proper place for Joe Wilson to make his statement, nobody seemed to remember to ask the question is Joe Wilson right? And that is a shame because it now appears as if Joe Wilson was right, even if he went about it the wrong way.
According to this article the Department of Health and Human Services has allotted nearly $30 million to special community health centers, and of that $30 million, $8.5 million will be used to target migrant farm workers. We all know that the term migrant farm workers is a politically correct codename for illegal aliens hired by farm owners to pick vegetables in the field because this is one of those jobs that George W Bush quipped was one that Americans wouldnt do.
And the HRSA is admitting that the immigration status of those seeking services will not be checked:
Health centers do not, as a matter of routine practice, ask about or collect data on citizenship or other matters not related to the treatment needs of the patients seeking health services at the center
The Programs authorizing statute does not affirmatively address immigration status, said Andrews. Rather, it simply states that health centers are required to provide primary health care to all residents of the health centers service area without regard for ability to pay
So immigration status will not be checked, and all residents of the arealegal and illegalwill gain access to the services provided, and because there are a large amount of illegal aliens doing these jobs it stands to reason that they will receive healthcare under this initiative in the Obamacare legislation.
Joe Wilson may have gone about it the wrong way, but in the end he was right. There are no protectionsat least in this portion of the billwhich would ensure that illegal aliens arent qualified to receive free benefits under the Obamacare legislation.
I saw this as well and though that it was very interesting as I never thought about it this way but it was worth reposting.............
Lets not forget that LEGAL citizens are required to participate in the health care program or be subject to fines.
Correct me if Im wrong but Illegals not only will not be required to show ID but they will also not be subject o any penalties as well.
there is nothing new on that grandpa..
.right now the gvt pays for costly emergency room care for all indigents, or at least a good portion of it, whether they are legal or illegal...
.I believe this is a mandate from our gvt to the health care facilities right now and for at least several past decades , that anyone sick, has to be treated with NO FEAR of being reported.
there is NO HOSPITAL or Clinic right now that requires anyone going to their facilities for healthcare to prove their citizenship, before they will be given treatment for their illness.i'm sorry, CNS news is not a trust worthy source for the most part grampa....so, they could be accurate on this, BUT I would need a legitimate source to back them up! I will search for one.... but here is a link that CNS gave in your link from them...
and it says nothing that supports THEIR claim.
HHS awards Affordable Care Act funds to expand access to health care
Well im sorry. I dont patronise their site I just googled it and thats what came up. Are they truely uncredible or is that a partisan viewpoint? Anyways I looked it up again and got this one...
Obamacare: migrant farm workers to be covered under healthcare reform « America's Watchtower
We all remember the speech Barack Obama gave back in 2009 in front of a joint session of Congress during the Obamacare debate; this is the speech where Barack Obama tried to assure the American people that Obamacare would only cover people who were in this country legally.
The reforms Im proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally
This is the same speech in which Joe Wilson yelled you lie at the president after Barack Obama made this claim. The outrage from the left was swift and all encompassing; one Democrat went so far as to claim that Joe Wilsons comment would lead to a resurgence of the KKK, and eventually Joe Wilson was rebuked for his actions by the Congress even though he had called the president shortly after the speech and apologized.
But while all of the attention during this episode was focused on whether or not this was the proper place for Joe Wilson to make his statement, nobody seemed to remember to ask the question is Joe Wilson right? And that is a shame because it now appears as if Joe Wilson was right, even if he went about it the wrong way.
According to this article the Department of Health and Human Services has allotted nearly $30 million to special community health centers, and of that $30 million, $8.5 million will be used to target migrant farm workers. We all know that the term migrant farm workers is a politically correct codename for illegal aliens hired by farm owners to pick vegetables in the field because this is one of those jobs that George W Bush quipped was one that Americans wouldnt do.
And the HRSA is admitting that the immigration status of those seeking services will not be checked:
Health centers do not, as a matter of routine practice, ask about or collect data on citizenship or other matters not related to the treatment needs of the patients seeking health services at the center
The Programs authorizing statute does not affirmatively address immigration status, said Andrews. Rather, it simply states that health centers are required to provide primary health care to all residents of the health centers service area without regard for ability to pay
So immigration status will not be checked, and all residents of the arealegal and illegalwill gain access to the services provided, and because there are a large amount of illegal aliens doing these jobs it stands to reason that they will receive healthcare under this initiative in the Obamacare legislation.
Joe Wilson may have gone about it the wrong way, but in the end he was right. There are no protectionsat least in this portion of the billwhich would ensure that illegal aliens arent qualified to receive free benefits under the Obamacare legislation.
I saw this as well and though that it was very interesting as I never thought about it this way but it was worth reposting.............
Lets not forget that LEGAL citizens are required to participate in the health care program or be subject to fines.
Correct me if Im wrong but Illegals not only will not be required to show ID but they will also not be subject o any penalties as well.
there is nothing new on that grandpa..
.right now the gvt pays for costly emergency room care for all indigents, or at least a good portion of it, whether they are legal or illegal...
.I believe this is a mandate from our gvt to the health care facilities right now and for at least several past decades , that anyone sick, has to be treated with NO FEAR of being reported.
there is NO HOSPITAL or Clinic right now that requires anyone going to their facilities for healthcare to prove their citizenship, before they will be given treatment for their illness.
there is nothing new on that grandpa..
.right now the gvt pays for costly emergency room care for all indigents, or at least a good portion of it, whether they are legal or illegal...
.I believe this is a mandate from our gvt to the health care facilities right now and for at least several past decades , that anyone sick, has to be treated with NO FEAR of being reported.
If an illegal alien works in the US, are they violating two laws, one for being in the US and one for working?No, it's against the law for illegal aliens to work in the U.S.A. The Obama administration is openly disobeying our countries laws!
The PJ Tatler » Obamas Labor Secretary: Illegal Aliens Have a Right to a Legal Wage
What law is she openly disobeying?
She is an idiot, true. But sentiments arent the same as actions.
If an illegal alien works in the US, are they violating two laws, one for being in the US and one for working?No, it's against the law for illegal aliens to work in the U.S.A. The Obama administration is openly disobeying our countries laws!
The PJ Tatler » Obamas Labor Secretary: Illegal Aliens Have a Right to a Legal Wage
What law is she openly disobeying?
She is an idiot, true. But sentiments arent the same as actions.
If an illegal alien works in the US, are they violating two laws, one for being in the US and one for working?No, it's against the law for illegal aliens to work in the U.S.A. The Obama administration is openly disobeying our countries laws!
The PJ Tatler » Obamas Labor Secretary: Illegal Aliens Have a Right to a Legal Wage
What law is she openly disobeying?
She is an idiot, true. But sentiments arent the same as actions.
If an illegal alien works in the US, are they violating two laws, one for being in the US and one for working?What law is she openly disobeying?
She is an idiot, true. But sentiments arent the same as actions.
Except maybe Migrant workers, it is a REQUIREMENT of work you have ID and a Social Security number. Illegals can not get either legally. There for if they are working they are breaking several laws indeed, ID theft, theft of a Social Security card number , and possibly other laws.
I wanna know how they bank? It is a FEDERAL law you MUST show ID to get a bank account or to do ANY Business with a bank. Has been since Oct 2001. How do they bank?
i know! I was id'd by the Walk in clinic I ended up going to just recently when I had Pneumonia...or maybe they just asked for my insurance card? hmm....i am wrong....i think they just took my insurance card and asked me a bunch of questions that I had to answer....there is NO HOSPITAL or Clinic right now that requires anyone going to their facilities for healthcare to prove their citizenship, before they will be given treatment for their illness.Well im sorry. I dont patronise their site I just googled it and thats what came up. Are they truely uncredible or is that a partisan viewpoint? Anyways I looked it up again and got this one...
Obamacare: “migrant farm workers” to be covered under healthcare reform « America's Watchtower
We all remember the speech Barack Obama gave back in 2009 in front of a joint session of Congress during the Obamacare debate; this is the speech where Barack Obama tried to assure the American people that Obamacare would only cover people who were in this country legally.
The reforms I’m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally
This is the same speech in which Joe Wilson yelled “you lie” at the president after Barack Obama made this claim. The outrage from the left was swift and all encompassing; one Democrat went so far as to claim that Joe Wilson’s comment would lead to a resurgence of the KKK, and eventually Joe Wilson was rebuked for his actions by the Congress even though he had called the president shortly after the speech and apologized.
But while all of the attention during this episode was focused on whether or not this was the proper place for Joe Wilson to make his statement, nobody seemed to remember to ask the question ”is Joe Wilson right?” And that is a shame because it now appears as if Joe Wilson was right, even if he went about it the wrong way.
According to this article the Department of Health and Human Services has allotted nearly $30 million to special community health centers, and of that $30 million, $8.5 million will be used to target ”migrant farm workers.” We all know that the term “migrant farm workers” is a politically correct codename for illegal aliens hired by farm owners to pick vegetables in the field because this is one of those jobs that George W Bush quipped was one that Americans wouldn’t do.
And the HRSA is admitting that the immigration status of those seeking services will not be checked:
Health centers do not, as a matter of routine practice, ask about or collect data on citizenship or other matters not related to the treatment needs of the patients seeking health services at the center
The Program’s authorizing statute does not affirmatively address immigration status,” said Andrews. “Rather, it simply states that health centers are required to provide primary health care to all residents of the health center’s service area without regard for ability to pay
So immigration status will not be checked, and all residents of the area–legal and illegal–will gain access to the services provided, and because there are a large amount of illegal aliens doing these jobs it stands to reason that they will receive healthcare under this initiative in the Obamacare legislation.
Joe Wilson may have gone about it the wrong way, but in the end he was right. There are no protections–at least in this portion of the bill–which would ensure that illegal aliens aren’t qualified to receive free benefits under the Obamacare legislation.
I saw this as well and though that it was very interesting as I never thought about it this way but it was worth reposting.............
Lets not forget that LEGAL citizens are required to participate in the health care program or be subject to fines.
Correct me if Im wrong but Illegals not only will not be required to show ID but they will also not be subject o any penalties as well.
there is nothing new on that grandpa..
.right now the gvt pays for costly emergency room care for all indigents, or at least a good portion of it, whether they are legal or illegal...
.I believe this is a mandate from our gvt to the health care facilities right now and for at least several past decades , that anyone sick, has to be treated with NO FEAR of being reported.
Why is it they ask me for my ID and insurance papers everytime I goto a Dr or emergency room then? If they arent at least keeping track of stats like these how could we possiblly ever form a solution to deal with such problems? This if true needs to change. I get ID'd for everything why shouldnt they?
The second law, and a few others would be broken if they present false documentation to gain employment. Particularly false SS cards and State ID's.If an illegal alien works in the US, are they violating two laws, one for being in the US and one for working?No, it's against the law for illegal aliens to work in the U.S.A. The Obama administration is openly disobeying our countries laws!
The PJ Tatler » Obamas Labor Secretary: Illegal Aliens Have a Right to a Legal Wage
What law is she openly disobeying?
She is an idiot, true. But sentiments arent the same as actions.
In that case, I can't see any problem with the agreement. The agreement applies to legal and illegal immigrants, as does the law. It’s not legal to mistreat the employee regardless of whether they are legal or not, so you can’t say in the agreement that it does not apply illegal aliens because the law applies to both.If an illegal alien works in the US, are they violating two laws, one for being in the US and one for working?What law is she openly disobeying?
She is an idiot, true. But sentiments arent the same as actions.
Its certainly ilegal to be here but Ive never heard of a law that "they" are violating by working. The business owner is certainly breaking the law though
but this is about employers paying employees per our wage laws and holiday laws etc. Wicked? so I don't think it involves those giving fake SS cards or numbers because more than likely, those employers are not paying these illegals less than what the law requires, are they?The second law, and a few others would be broken if they present false documentation to gain employment. Particularly false SS cards and State ID's.If an illegal alien works in the US, are they violating two laws, one for being in the US and one for working?What law is she openly disobeying?
She is an idiot, true. But sentiments arent the same as actions.
Hell, I used to get three or four a week who would come in asking for employment. I would have them fill out an application, make copies of their paperwork, run 'em through E-verify. If something came up suspicious, I would call the VCSO fraud section. They would usually call me back and ask that I set up a second interview with the person. The VCSO would wait outside and arrest them when they came out.....Some were actually prosecuted, most were turned over to INS (ICE) and deported......At least I can say I've got a few of those bastards under my belt. Although a lot of 'em were probably right back over here within weeks.
Nope, just doin' right by my country, and helping to ensure that employment laws were being upheld. As I was required to do by law as a business owner.Yup, you're a hero...
As I recall, the social reporting requirement is on the employer not the employee. If the employer does not ask the employee for the social security number, which an employer hiring illegals may not do, the employee is not violating the law. I agree that if the employee gives a false social security number, then he is breaking the law.If an illegal alien works in the US, are they violating two laws, one for being in the US and one for working?What law is she openly disobeying?
She is an idiot, true. But sentiments arent the same as actions.
Except maybe Migrant workers, it is a REQUIREMENT of work you have ID and a Social Security number. Illegals can not get either legally. There for if they are working they are breaking several laws indeed, ID theft, theft of a Social Security card number , and possibly other laws.
I wanna know how they bank? It is a FEDERAL law you MUST show ID to get a bank account or to do ANY Business with a bank. Has been since Oct 2001. How do they bank?