Obama's Hair Trigger should frighten us all

[Bob Roberts]

Let's be honest about what happened here, Obama had Shirely Sherrod dispatched before any of the facts came in. Along with the BP Extortion, this is is now the second time the Community Organizer has decided to circumvent tradition, facts and all common sense to have an outcome that appeals to his absurd sense of importance and sensibilities.

Any normal person in any other organization would at least have had the common sense and courtesy to hear Sherrod's side of the story before taking action.

But Obama was in such a mad frenzy to paint the Tea Party as racists, he pulled the trigger without taking aim.

THIS IS THE SAME GUY IN CHARGE OF THE US MILITARY AND OUR NUCLEAR ARSENAL!

Does Obama "Fire! Ready.... meh....aim" strategy concern anyone else?

I assume you are a Republican. If so, how do you justify Bush's brash decision to invade Iraq on false premises?

Ask yourself how many times Bush attempted to get the UN to react to Iraq before he decided to invade.

Iraq was severely weakened after the Dual Containment policy in the 1980s, the first Gulf War, and various sanctions over the years. Deciding to preemptively invade Iraq on false premises was a terrible foreign policy decision. In my opinion, it was the worst foreign policy decision ever.

Therefore, whether Bush called on the UN to react 1 or 100 times is irrelevant, when analyzing Bush’s decision to preemptively invade Iraq. The real question to ask is whether or not Iraq posed a serious threat to our security?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Not sure I understand what you're asking (yeah, that's unusual) Are you asking if Operation Wetback was real?

You posted a thread claiming Operation Wetback deported 13 million illegals. It deported no more than 500,000.

Topic: Here

Modbert: There

See the problem?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I was very clear about what I posted, I posted an email that was forwarded to me.

I didn't write it, I didn't link it, I just copied it and reported it as such to show what prior President have done with respect to illegal immigration

Right. Except everything about the email was wrong. If you didn't believe in what you posted, you wouldn't of posted it. The fact you can be so easily tricked by such emails does not speak well of your intelligence.

The fact that you can't stay on topic says oodles about yours

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What does Operation Wetback have to do with the OP????
Someone's confused and I don't think Its' C-Frank.

Yes C-Frank, it is disconcerting that an inexperienced Chicago thug politico is in charge of our nuclear arsenal. Any Prez that blinks in the face of one media outlet, is, yes indeedee, a danger.

It speaks of Frank's lack of intelligence.

As for this, you know what? If Obama ends up starting World War 3 and kills us all, you can come on USMB and post that I was wrong and I'll agree. How's that sound?

Most 'mods' on here combine threads if they are repititious or speak to the same theme.
In the limited time I've been here, you are the first mod I've seen post an apple to an oranges topic in the same thread, to attempt to make a poster appear unintelligent.
No big deal, it was just confusing.
How's that sound?

Modbert is the affirmative action Mod; a failed experiment to see if snot nosed Socialists could perform in the real world

He keeps trying to engage me in these debates sighting his obvious superior intelligence and to me it's like a gnat, and a gnat with a small dick even for a gnat, trying to throw a hump into an elephant

 

[CrusaderFrank]

. Along with the BP Extortion

It was hardly extortion. Making BP pay for the mess they created was spot on.

Not surprisingly, you totally misunderstand the point.

There was a system in place to deal with BP's liability and Obama circumvented that just because he flet like it.

Same way there is a system in place for handling complaints against Sherrod and the top guy, Rahm Emanuel himself, circumvented it to help his Boss save face.

I hope this clears it up, but I have little hope it sunk in

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Let's be honest about what happened here, Obama had Shirely Sherrod dispatched before any of the facts came in. Along with the BP Extortion, this is is now the second time the Community Organizer has decided to circumvent tradition, facts and all common sense to have an outcome that appeals to his absurd sense of importance and sensibilities.

Any normal person in any other organization would at least have had the common sense and courtesy to hear Sherrod's side of the story before taking action.

But Obama was in such a mad frenzy to paint the Tea Party as racists, he pulled the trigger without taking aim.

THIS IS THE SAME GUY IN CHARGE OF THE US MILITARY AND OUR NUCLEAR ARSENAL!

Does Obama "Fire! Ready.... meh....aim" strategy concern anyone else?

I assume you are a Republican. If so, how do you justify Bush's brash decision to invade Iraq on false premises?

Topic: Here

You: Not Here.

See the problem?

Also, do you want me to copy the numerous statement Clinton and other world leaders made about the threat posed by Saddam?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Instead of condeming fox for continued fraud the Klansman take unsupported pot shots at Obama.

 

[Modbert]

Modbert is the affirmative action Mod; a failed experiment to see if snot nosed Socialists could perform in the real world

He keeps trying to engage me in these debates sighting his obvious superior intelligence and to me it's like a gnat, and a gnat with a small dick even for a gnat, trying to throw a hump into an elephant

My mod ship has nothing to do with me as a poster or this thread. Though perhaps you could explain to me how I'm a Socialist? Be specific of course. Or is this another of your chain emails you got?

Reason I brought up here Frank is because your thread is hilarious ironic. You have no real evidence that Obama is going to accidentally kill us all, all you do is offer two completely different situations from the one you are dreaming of. You act as if your OP had anything actually worth responding to in the first place. As for the Operation Wetback comments, you refused to own up and admit they were wrong in the original thread, figure I'd give you a little reminder here.

 

[Modbert]

Topic: Here

Frank: There

The man's dead Frank, going to use that picture until your his age?

 

[Vel]

Does Obama "Fire! Ready.... meh....aim" strategy concern anyone else?

The right-wing propoganda machine that lies to the American people and tries to manipulate public opinion concerns me.

Having a POTUS who can be led by the propaganda should concern you more.

 

[ConHog]

I don't know that his premature ejaculation worries me, but I bet it pisses Michelle off.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Modbert is the affirmative action Mod; a failed experiment to see if snot nosed Socialists could perform in the real world

He keeps trying to engage me in these debates sighting his obvious superior intelligence and to me it's like a gnat, and a gnat with a small dick even for a gnat, trying to throw a hump into an elephant

My mod ship has nothing to do with me as a poster or this thread. Though perhaps you could explain to me how I'm a Socialist? Be specific of course. Or is this another of your chain emails you got?

Reason I brought up here Frank is because your thread is hilarious ironic. You have no real evidence that Obama is going to accidentally kill us all, all you do is offer two completely different situations from the one you are dreaming of. You act as if your OP had anything actually worth responding to in the first place. As for the Operation Wetback comments, you refused to own up and admit they were wrong in the original thread, figure I'd give you a little reminder here.

I'm sorry. I thought this was your thread

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/125719-the-progressive-obama-a-socialist-i-wish.html

Did Dante/DevNell change his name to Modbert?

The point of the thread is Obama's absolutely frightening, terrifying, absurd lack of executive leadership skill that would have him first micromanage something as stupid as Sherrod and then secondly make the absolute worst decision and take an insane course of action.

Not a good trait for a CinC. Not at all

 

[Modbert]

I'm sorry. I thought this was your thread

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/125719-the-progressive-obama-a-socialist-i-wish.html

Did Dante/DevNell change his name to Modbert?

The point of the thread is Obama's absolutely frightening, terrifying, absurd lack of executive leadership skill that would have him first micromanage something as stupid as Sherrod and then secondly make the absolute worst decision and take an insane course of action.

Not a good trait for a CinC. Not at all

Yeah, that's my thread. It's from The Progressive, and that's the title of the article you moron.

Also, absurd lack of executive leadership? Aren't you the one who's supporting Palin, who has not only less than Obama now but quit her previous job?

I'm not going to judge Obama's leadership skills on this incident when wondering what he is going to do in terms of foreign policy. If you really think he's going to act the same way in both situation, then you're not only lying to USMB but you're lying to yourself.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Topic: Here

Frank: There

The man's dead Frank, going to use that picture until your his age?

Topspin: Klansman

Me: Democrat Robert Byrd (D-WV and Grand Kleagle) is the only person associated with the Klan and he was a Democrat and Senate Majority Leader

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I'm sorry. I thought this was your thread

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/125719-the-progressive-obama-a-socialist-i-wish.html

Did Dante/DevNell change his name to Modbert?

The point of the thread is Obama's absolutely frightening, terrifying, absurd lack of executive leadership skill that would have him first micromanage something as stupid as Sherrod and then secondly make the absolute worst decision and take an insane course of action.

Not a good trait for a CinC. Not at all

Yeah, that's my thread. It's from The Progressive, and that's the title of the article you moron.

Also, absurd lack of executive leadership? Aren't you the one who's supporting Palin, who has not only less than Obama now but quit her previous job?

I'm not going to judge Obama's leadership skills on this incident when wondering what he is going to do in terms of foreign policy. If you really think he's going to act the same way in both situation, then you're not only lying to USMB but you're lying to yourself.

Palin was a real executive: a mayor then a Governor.

Do you even know what an executive is, I mean besides someone who exploits the proletarian?

 

[LuckyDan]

I'm sorry. I thought this was your thread

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/125719-the-progressive-obama-a-socialist-i-wish.html

Did Dante/DevNell change his name to Modbert?

The point of the thread is Obama's absolutely frightening, terrifying, absurd lack of executive leadership skill that would have him first micromanage something as stupid as Sherrod and then secondly make the absolute worst decision and take an insane course of action.

Not a good trait for a CinC. Not at all

Yeah, that's my thread. It's from The Progressive, and that's the title of the article you moron.

Also, absurd lack of executive leadership? Aren't you the one who's supporting Palin, who has not only less than Obama now but quit her previous job?

I'm not going to judge Obama's leadership skills on this incident when wondering what he is going to do in terms of foreign policy. If you really think he's going to act the same way in both situation, then you're not only lying to USMB but you're lying to yourself.

What is it with you and the L word lately? You draw it like a pistol. Can't anyone simply be wrong anymore, without being liars? Not that Frank is wrong. This WH shoots wild, when it shoots at all.

 

[ConHog]

I'm sorry. I thought this was your thread

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/125719-the-progressive-obama-a-socialist-i-wish.html

Did Dante/DevNell change his name to Modbert?

The point of the thread is Obama's absolutely frightening, terrifying, absurd lack of executive leadership skill that would have him first micromanage something as stupid as Sherrod and then secondly make the absolute worst decision and take an insane course of action.

Not a good trait for a CinC. Not at all

Yeah, that's my thread. It's from The Progressive, and that's the title of the article you moron.

Also, absurd lack of executive leadership? Aren't you the one who's supporting Palin, who has not only less than Obama now but quit her previous job?

I'm not going to judge Obama's leadership skills on this incident when wondering what he is going to do in terms of foreign policy. If you really think he's going to act the same way in both situation, then you're not only lying to USMB but you're lying to yourself.

Bert, Obama is a HORRIBLE leader. That is BEYOND debate. I know you personally like him, but that is not the point. The point is this , and listen carefully Bert because I'm going to be honest and complimentary to you and hope you learn an actual lesson here.

All bull shit aside, you're obviously a smart kid, I have no doubt that at some point in your chosen profession someone is going to send you to some form of management training. My own leadership training was courtesy of the US Army National Guard in the form of Officer Candidacy School, to begin with anyway. Once you attend yours , you will learn some reason Obama is a horrible leader. Among those things will be

A) When you take over a job, you take it over in it's entirely, what your predecessor did is irrelevant to your own success or lack thereof

B) A good leader NEVER throws his subordinates under the bus, instead he praises them for his successes and takes the blame for their failures - in public at least

C) A good leader NEVER makes snap decisions, EVER not under ANY circumstances.

D) A good leader never asks people to do that which he isn't willing to do himself.

E) A good leader sets a good example.

Those are just to name a few Bert, and I'm quite sure I just wasted my time by attempting to educate you on this, but I will make the attempt anyway. The question is , can you for once set your partisanship aside and accept the wisdom of a person who has been there and done that?

 

[ConHog]

I'm sorry. I thought this was your thread

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/125719-the-progressive-obama-a-socialist-i-wish.html

Did Dante/DevNell change his name to Modbert?

The point of the thread is Obama's absolutely frightening, terrifying, absurd lack of executive leadership skill that would have him first micromanage something as stupid as Sherrod and then secondly make the absolute worst decision and take an insane course of action.

Not a good trait for a CinC. Not at all

Yeah, that's my thread. It's from The Progressive, and that's the title of the article you moron.

Also, absurd lack of executive leadership? Aren't you the one who's supporting Palin, who has not only less than Obama now but quit her previous job?

I'm not going to judge Obama's leadership skills on this incident when wondering what he is going to do in terms of foreign policy. If you really think he's going to act the same way in both situation, then you're not only lying to USMB but you're lying to yourself.

Palin was a real executive: a mayor then a Governor.

Do you even know what an executive is, I mean besides someone who exploits the proletarian?

I cut Bert some slack on this issue Frank, he's young , and never been in a leadership position before; he just needs education on what makes a good leader. Hopefully he takes an honest look at the post I just made.

 

[Modbert]

Palin was a real executive: a mayor then a Governor.

Do you even know what an executive is, I mean besides someone who exploits the proletarian?

Her time as mayor:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin#Mayor_of_Wasilla

During her second term as mayor, Palin proposed and promoted the construction of a municipal sports center to be financed by a 0.5%[51] sales tax increase and $14.7 million bond issue.[69] Voters approved the measure by a 20 vote margin and the Wasilla Multi-Use Sports Complex was built on time and under budget. However, the city spent an additional $1.3 million because of an eminent domain lawsuit caused by the failure to obtain clear title to the property before beginning construction.[69] The city's long-term debt grew from about $1 million to $25 million due to $15 million for the sports complex, $5.5 million for street projects, and $3 million for water improvement projects. The Wall Street Journal characterized the project as a "financial mess".[69] A city council member defended the spending increases as being caused by the city's growth during that time.[70]

Palin also joined with nearby communities in hiring the Anchorage-based lobbying firm of Robertson, Monagle & Eastaugh to lobby for federal funds. The firm secured nearly $8 million in earmarks for the Wasilla city government,[71] including $500,000 for a youth shelter, $1.9 million for a transportation hub, and $900,000 for sewer repairs.[72]

Review: Palin left the town not only broke, but in massive debt. If she were a CEO of a company, she would of been fired. Not only this, but it's as if as a CEO she went and tried to get money from the government for her company. Are you suddenly a proponent of earmarks there Frank? After all, all I hear from you and your "Conservative" friends is that earmarks are wasteful spending.

Palin's time as Governor:

Shortly before his July 2008 indictment, she held a joint news conference with Stevens, described by The Washington Post as intended to "make clear she had not abandoned him politically."[83]

She pals around with disgraced ex-senator and Pork King Ted Stevens.

In 2008, as a vice-presidential candidate, Palin characterized her position as having told Congress "thanks, but no thanks, on that bridge to nowhere." This angered some Alaskans in Ketchikan, who said that the claim was false and a betrayal of Palin's previous support for their community.[121]

This would be considered lying to the stockholders in order to try and appease would be investors.

And of course, she had a 93% approval rating on June 21, 2007. By June 18, 2009, it was only a 56% approval rating. It would of probably plummeted further if not for the whole resigning.

Would you hire someone who quit their last job without notice, randomly, and without no real good reason? I know I wouldn't.

So to say that Palin has executive leadership is laughable at best. If you think Obama would tear her apart on the quitting, just wait until you see what her fellow Republicans do in the primary.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Palin was a real executive: a mayor then a Governor.

Do you even know what an executive is, I mean besides someone who exploits the proletarian?

Her time as mayor:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin#Mayor_of_Wasilla

During her second term as mayor, Palin proposed and promoted the construction of a municipal sports center to be financed by a 0.5%[51] sales tax increase and $14.7 million bond issue.[69] Voters approved the measure by a 20 vote margin and the Wasilla Multi-Use Sports Complex was built on time and under budget. However, the city spent an additional $1.3 million because of an eminent domain lawsuit caused by the failure to obtain clear title to the property before beginning construction.[69] The city's long-term debt grew from about $1 million to $25 million due to $15 million for the sports complex, $5.5 million for street projects, and $3 million for water improvement projects. The Wall Street Journal characterized the project as a "financial mess".[69] A city council member defended the spending increases as being caused by the city's growth during that time.[70]

Review: Palin left the town not only broke, but in massive debt. If she were a CEO of a company, she would of been fired. Not only this, but it's as if as a CEO she went and tried to get money from the government for her company. Are you suddenly a proponent of earmarks there Frank? After all, all I hear from you and your "Conservative" friends is that earmarks are wasteful spending.

Palin's time as Governor:

Shortly before his July 2008 indictment, she held a joint news conference with Stevens, described by The Washington Post as intended to "make clear she had not abandoned him politically."[83]

She pals around with disgraced ex-senator and Pork King Ted Stevens.

In 2008, as a vice-presidential candidate, Palin characterized her position as having told Congress "thanks, but no thanks, on that bridge to nowhere." This angered some Alaskans in Ketchikan, who said that the claim was false and a betrayal of Palin's previous support for their community.[121]

This would be considered lying to the stockholders in order to try and appease would be investors.

And of course, she had a 93% approval rating on June 21, 2007. By June 18, 2009, it was only a 56% approval rating. It would of probably plummeted further if not for the whole resigning.

Would you hire someone who quit their last job without notice, randomly, and without no real good reason? I know I wouldn't.

So to say that Palin has executive leadership is laughable at best. If you think Obama would tear her apart on the quitting, just wait until you see what her fellow Republicans do in the primary.

Your hatred of Palin blinds you and your need to spew your hatred renders you totally ignorant.

The debt built a sports Stadium or do you believe all money comes from Obama's stash?