Obama's gas policy

[ScreamingEagle]

 

[Cuyo]

Mr President,
I need to drive a truck for my construction business, can you and the government do something about gas prices?

F you cracker, you need to buy a new electric car sold by my eeerrrrr General Motors. It will only set you back about $40,000 unless you want air conditioning.

Actually they want to tax you for the miles you drive, and top of the tax they have on gas.

Aside from that, reducing non-safety regs will lower the cost of doing biz that can lead to a lower cost of oil.

Of course he can stop causing the suffering of some unemployed workers by allowing companies to drill for more oil. More oil leads to lower prices.

We don't have enough oil to impact prices in any significant way. Even if we did, OPEC would immediately cut production to keep prices high, like they do every time there's a decrease in demand.

 

[Toronado3800]

I think I hate you all and the troops so I am going to buy a 300HP daily driver lol. (THAT IS JUST A JOKE!)

That is 75 more than them Fox Body Mustangs tore up the streets with in the 80's! No one who supports our troops should be demanding that.

Really, there is room here for more fuel efficient vehicles w/o going off the deep end.

 

[The Rabbi]

What would you like Obama to do, cracker? Are you actually asking the Federal Government to help out your private business? Sure sounds like Socialism to me.....

I understood that he was asking for government to get out of the way of his business. Government for the last six years has been trying to legislate behavior. Using food for fuel when fuel is available is .... stupid. It is driving up the food prices that drive up the oil prices (ME countries import grains that are paid for with oil money), that drives up the food prices .... vicious circle.

Now that I am through laughing. I assume you have data to support this assertion?

People frequently laugh at what they don't understand.
In fact he is right and you are wrong.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

He just promised Brazil $Millions in American Taxpayer cash so they can drill for Oil. Man,what a shitty Anti-American thing to do. Him and his sycophants sit around whining about the "Evil" American Oil companies but they have no problem giving $Millions in American Taxpayer cash to Brazilian Oil companies. I really do think there is something to many people calling this President Anti-American. People better get out and Vote in 2012. Real change can happen. Come on 2012!

 

[Rambunctious]

Mr President,
I need to drive a truck for my construction business, can you and the government do something about gas prices?

F you cracker, you need to buy a new electric car sold by my eeerrrrr General Motors. It will only set you back about $40,000 unless you want air conditioning.

What would you like Obama to do, cracker? Are you actually asking the Federal Government to help out your private business? Sure sounds like Socialism to me.....

What makes you think I'm a cracker? can you see me? well #1 increase supply of oil, coal, wind, sun, and whatever else powers this nation. He can stop demonizing big business like the oil industry and work with them rather than against them.
I find it strange that "progressives" want nothing to do with progress. I'm fortunate to be able to buy gas on base. Right outside the gate I can see a sign $4.25 per gallon. To bad Bush ain't president or the media would be backing the people instead of backing Obama.
And another thing: How dare you libs sit quietly while democrat politicians bash an entire group of American people.
The Tea Party are a group of concerned citizens who help pay the salaries of these politicians and then have to hear Reid and his minions bash them and their beliefs.
And the libs say nothing, and the state run media say nothing.

Disgusting.

 

[Cuyo]

Mr President,
I need to drive a truck for my construction business, can you and the government do something about gas prices?

F you cracker, you need to buy a new electric car sold by my eeerrrrr General Motors. It will only set you back about $40,000 unless you want air conditioning.

What would you like Obama to do, cracker? Are you actually asking the Federal Government to help out your private business? Sure sounds like Socialism to me.....

What makes you think I'm a cracker? can you see me? well #1 increase supply of oil, coal, wind, sun, and whatever else powers this nation. He can stop demonizing big business like the oil industry and work with them rather than against them.
I find it strange that "progressives" want nothing to do with progress. I'm fortunate to be able to buy gas on base. Right outside the gate I can see a sign $4.25 per gallon. To bad Bush ain't president or the media would be backing the people instead of backing Obama.
And another thing: How dare you libs sit quietly while democrat politicians bash an entire group of American people.
The Tea Party are a group of concerned citizens who help pay the salaries of these politicians and then have to hear Reid and his minions bash them and their beliefs.
And the libs say nothing, and the state run media say nothing.

Disgusting.

Consider the high prices the market's way of telling us we're using too much of it. POTUS doesn't personally go to gas stations and change the prices with that giant suction cup himself, you know.

 

[The Rabbi]

What would you like Obama to do, cracker? Are you actually asking the Federal Government to help out your private business? Sure sounds like Socialism to me.....

What makes you think I'm a cracker? can you see me? well #1 increase supply of oil, coal, wind, sun, and whatever else powers this nation. He can stop demonizing big business like the oil industry and work with them rather than against them.
I find it strange that "progressives" want nothing to do with progress. I'm fortunate to be able to buy gas on base. Right outside the gate I can see a sign $4.25 per gallon. To bad Bush ain't president or the media would be backing the people instead of backing Obama.
And another thing: How dare you libs sit quietly while democrat politicians bash an entire group of American people.
The Tea Party are a group of concerned citizens who help pay the salaries of these politicians and then have to hear Reid and his minions bash them and their beliefs.
And the libs say nothing, and the state run media say nothing.

Disgusting.

Consider the high prices the market's way of telling us we're using too much of it. POTUS doesn't personally go to gas stations and change the prices with that giant suction cup himself, you know.

Actually it is saying the Chinese and Indians are using way too much. When those economies were in recession gas prices were much lower.
And gov't policies have a big influence on prices, as well as supply and demand. And those policies suck.

 

[ClosedCaption]

What makes you think I'm a cracker? can you see me? well #1 increase supply of oil, coal, wind, sun, and whatever else powers this nation. He can stop demonizing big business like the oil industry and work with them rather than against them.
I find it strange that "progressives" want nothing to do with progress. I'm fortunate to be able to buy gas on base. Right outside the gate I can see a sign $4.25 per gallon. To bad Bush ain't president or the media would be backing the people instead of backing Obama.
And another thing: How dare you libs sit quietly while democrat politicians bash an entire group of American people.
The Tea Party are a group of concerned citizens who help pay the salaries of these politicians and then have to hear Reid and his minions bash them and their beliefs.
And the libs say nothing, and the state run media say nothing.

Disgusting.

Consider the high prices the market's way of telling us we're using too much of it. POTUS doesn't personally go to gas stations and change the prices with that giant suction cup himself, you know.

Actually it is saying the Chinese and Indians are using way too much. When those economies were in recession gas prices were much lower.
And gov't policies have a big influence on prices, as well as supply and demand. And those policies suck.

Listening to the explanation of why the gas prices are so high from the Oil Company is like listening to a home owner why they want so much money for their home.

Rabbi believes it tho... ...just like an authoritarian would.

It cant be that they want more profits could it? Let me scan the thread to see if any RW even considered it

 

[The Rabbi]

Consider the high prices the market's way of telling us we're using too much of it. POTUS doesn't personally go to gas stations and change the prices with that giant suction cup himself, you know.

Actually it is saying the Chinese and Indians are using way too much. When those economies were in recession gas prices were much lower.
And gov't policies have a big influence on prices, as well as supply and demand. And those policies suck.

Listening to the explanation of why the gas prices are so high from the Oil Company is like listening to a home owner why they want so much money for their home.

Rabbi believes it tho... ...just like an authoritarian would.

It cant be that they want more profits could it? Let me scan the thread to see if any RW even considered it

Geez are you an idiot. Of course they want more profits. Every business wants more profits. If you did something other than sit on your ass all day you would know this.
BUt guess what? Oil is a competitive business. They can want all they want and it wont make a damn bit of difference because oil and gas are commodity businesses, which means the guy with the best price gets the sale.
When gas prices went down to 1.99/gal at the start of the recession was that because oil companies decided to be nice guys and give everyone a break?
What a goober.

 

[jeffrockit]

What do you want big government to do about gas prices? Regulate supply and demand? At least the Republicans on board will come on against this.

The thing to do IS to use more efficient vehicles for our daily commutes. Probably no need to force you to buy American, but get some fuel efficient car for non HD use. If everyone, enough people do, demand for fuel will go down and so will prices. Capitalism.

Thanks to the emerging markets in China and the rest of the world I doubt fuel prices will ever hit $1 a gallon again.

Think of it this way. If my 98 MarkVIII got better fuel economy than my 89 Toronado I would be using less fuel now. Apply that to the country on the whole and prices would go down. Obviously if I am driving a 280HP vehicle where a 160HP vehicle used to do I could be doing my part too.

I'm back to siding with you Rambunctious, I want big government to raise the CAFE standards even more to help us support the troops and ourselves.

I want them to open more drilling in the USA. Increase the supply that is already here.

Increasing production at home will only help a bit, and it is only a short term solution. Most of our remaining reserves will be very expensive to draw from which will just bump prices even higher. It would help some though, but it is not the golden egg you may hope it to be. Our largest reserves are in shale, and as of yet, they haven't figured out a way to get the oil out in a cost effective way or an environmentally effective way. If they ever do figure it out, we have more oil than the rest of the world combined, but I wouldn't count on that at this point.

As much as it hurts, with oil prices going up, other forms of energy will become less expensive comparatively and eventually may actually bring down the prices of those alternatives.

Do not see in my comment where I mentioned a "golden egg". I was speaking mainly of the gulf where much of the production was suspended after the BP rig explosion. Every couple of years we hear the "experts" state that it will take at least 2 years to get the oil out of the ground and into production. This game has been going on for years and we have passed the 2 year mark many times over.
The environmental crowd are not helping the cause either as they want to engineer us into other energy choices now. While I don't disagree with that stance for the most part, there is simply not a viable alternative to oil in the immediate future. The question I always ask when it comes to electric cars is, what energy source is used to charge the batteries. The answer is mainly coal fired plants which the enviros and Obama (in his own words) want to cripple. We need to get realistic with the future of energy, not just what is politically correct.

 

[code1211]

What do you want big government to do about gas prices? Regulate supply and demand? At least the Republicans on board will come on against this.

The thing to do IS to use more efficient vehicles for our daily commutes. Probably no need to force you to buy American, but get some fuel efficient car for non HD use. If everyone, enough people do, demand for fuel will go down and so will prices. Capitalism.
Thanks to the emerging markets in China and the rest of the world I doubt fuel prices will ever hit $1 a gallon again.

Think of it this way. If my 98 MarkVIII got better fuel economy than my 89 Toronado I would be using less fuel now. Apply that to the country on the whole and prices would go down. Obviously if I am driving a 280HP vehicle where a 160HP vehicle used to do I could be doing my part too.

I'm back to siding with you Rambunctious, I want big government to raise the CAFE standards even more to help us support the troops and ourselves.

Capitalism? Think again.

Allow the oil comjpanies to drill off shore and sell the leases and tax the living piss out of them. Do this up, down and around the coasts and the fiscal problems of the Californias go away.

Commit to a policy of zero energy imports within 10 years and THAT will both fire up the domestic oil drilling, with oil, gas and coal use in cleaner ways AND incent the use of the crurrently inefficent and wasteful greener methods of energy production.

Of course, this would require a strong leader with a vision and the courage to carry it out working with all of the politicians and spreading credit around regardless of party afilliation.

The current Chicago Machine political hack residing in the White House will not do anything that is bi-partisan or intelligent. He is absolutely committed to working against the fiscal interests of this country in every method available.

Capitalism as practiced in America relies on private investment and then taxation.

What you are talking about is a variation of what the President is doing which is Socialist control and strangulation of incentives and profits. Eliminate the reward and you eliminate the incentive to take a risk.

Don't raise the cafe standards. Shut down the energy imports. With no oil, the CAFE standards will rise all by themselves.

 

[skookerasbil]

Paid $4.19 last night for the 93 octane I need for my Mustang.

Walk out of the grocery store with a few items and my wallet is lighter $100...........

Weird............reminds me of times gone by...............


Oh yeah..............the late 1970's!!!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

what do you want big government to do about gas prices? Regulate supply and demand? At least the republicans on board will come on against this.

The thing to do is to use more efficient vehicles for our daily commutes. Probably no need to force you to buy american, but get some fuel efficient car for non hd use. If everyone, enough people do, demand for fuel will go down and so will prices. capitalism.
thanks to the emerging markets in china and the rest of the world i doubt fuel prices will ever hit $1 a gallon again.

Think of it this way. If my 98 markviii got better fuel economy than my 89 toronado i would be using less fuel now. Apply that to the country on the whole and prices would go down. Obviously if i am driving a 280hp vehicle where a 160hp vehicle used to do i could be doing my part too.

I'm back to siding with you rambunctious, i want big government to raise the cafe standards even more to help us support the troops and ourselves.

capitalism? Think again.

Allow the oil comjpanies to drill off shore and sell the leases and tax the living piss out of them. Do this up, down and around the coasts and the fiscal problems of the californias go away.

Commit to a policy of zero energy imports within 10 years and that will both fire up the domestic oil drilling, with oil, gas and coal use in cleaner ways and incent the use of the crurrently inefficent and wasteful greener methods of energy production.

Of course, this would require a strong leader with a vision and the courage to carry it out working with all of the politicians and spreading credit around regardless of party afilliation.

The current chicago machine political hack residing in the white house will not do anything that is bi-partisan or intelligent. He is absolutely committed to working against the fiscal interests of this country in every method available.

Capitalism as practiced in america relies on private investment and then taxation.

What you are talking about is a variation of what the president is doing which is socialist control and strangulation of incentives and profits. Eliminate the reward and you eliminate the incentive to take a risk.

Don't raise the cafe standards. Shut down the energy imports. With no oil, the cafe standards will rise all by themselves.

win

 

[code1211]

Mr President,
I need to drive a truck for my construction business, can you and the government do something about gas prices?

F you cracker, you need to buy a new electric car sold by my eeerrrrr General Motors. It will only set you back about $40,000 unless you want air conditioning.

Actually they want to tax you for the miles you drive, and top of the tax they have on gas.

Aside from that, reducing non-safety regs will lower the cost of doing biz that can lead to a lower cost of oil.

Of course he can stop causing the suffering of some unemployed workers by allowing companies to drill for more oil. More oil leads to lower prices.

We don't have enough oil to impact prices in any significant way. Even if we did, OPEC would immediately cut production to keep prices high, like they do every time there's a decrease in demand.

People who are in debt resent those to whom they owe money. This is becasue the lenders can exert control. There is no difference between this and our reliance on Imported Oil. This why we are fighting three wars in the Middle East.

We need to be energy independant. Through a combination of resource exploitation, innovation and national policy, we could be within ten years of energy independance and in this process add to our employment rolls and tax base.

The only reasons that we don't is a lack of leadership and national will. If we had the former, we would have the latter.

 

[code1211]

What would you like Obama to do, cracker? Are you actually asking the Federal Government to help out your private business? Sure sounds like Socialism to me.....

What makes you think I'm a cracker? can you see me? well #1 increase supply of oil, coal, wind, sun, and whatever else powers this nation. He can stop demonizing big business like the oil industry and work with them rather than against them.
I find it strange that "progressives" want nothing to do with progress. I'm fortunate to be able to buy gas on base. Right outside the gate I can see a sign $4.25 per gallon. To bad Bush ain't president or the media would be backing the people instead of backing Obama.
And another thing: How dare you libs sit quietly while democrat politicians bash an entire group of American people.
The Tea Party are a group of concerned citizens who help pay the salaries of these politicians and then have to hear Reid and his minions bash them and their beliefs.
And the libs say nothing, and the state run media say nothing.

Disgusting.

Consider the high prices the market's way of telling us we're using too much of it. POTUS doesn't personally go to gas stations and change the prices with that giant suction cup himself, you know.

No, all he does is revoke drilling licenses, make Executive Orders to change EPA regulations and susidize the oil companies in other countries after he has shut ours down.

 

[Eric Cartman]

When gas was over $4.00 a gallon when Bush was President all you heard was bitching and moaning about what a hobo he was for allowing the gas prices to get this high. With Obama, hardly anything is being said. What's up with that? Were they bitching because Bush was a Republican, white, and not a muslim or did they show real concern for high gas prices and now that we have a black, Democrat muslim President it doesn't matter any more? Which is it?

I really think it has more to do with psychology than politics. When Bush was in office we had never seen $4 dollar gas before but now we have. It will become a big news story when it starts breaking records.

 

[editec]

Mr President,
I need to drive a truck for my construction business, can you and the government do something about gas prices?

F you cracker, you need to buy a new electric car sold by my eeerrrrr General Motors. It will only set you back about $40,000 unless you want air conditioning.

Nobody sane (and in this case that includes Obama) is making the claim that electric cars are going to be a viable response to the rising price of energy.

There are obviously things that one can bitch about regarding Obama and energy policies, but your above bitch isn't one of them.

Nothing about you complaint makes the slightest sense, kid.

 

[editec]

edited because this post was obviously not in the right thread

 

[skookerasbil]

Mr President,
I need to drive a truck for my construction business, can you and the government do something about gas prices?

F you cracker, you need to buy a new electric car sold by my eeerrrrr General Motors. It will only set you back about $40,000 unless you want air conditioning.

Actually they want to tax you for the miles you drive, and top of the tax they have on gas.

Aside from that, reducing non-safety regs will lower the cost of doing biz that can lead to a lower cost of oil.

Of course he can stop causing the suffering of some unemployed workers by allowing companies to drill for more oil. More oil leads to lower prices.

We don't have enough oil to impact prices in any significant way. Even if we did, OPEC would immediately cut production to keep prices high, like they do every time there's a decrease in demand.

Dummy statement of the week.............all legislators have to do is talk about future drilling and prices IMMEDIATELY drop.

We need the will indeed...........to drill our asses off, and say FCUKK the Environmenatal nutballs who are fine with all Americans having their electric rates double and have faith in 19th century technology like wind and solar!!! Talk about fcukking suckers..........

And nobody wants electric cars...........not in America anyway. What did they sell.........189 of them this past year?? Who's buying electric cars in America? The affluent........