obama's cuba, going down to celebrate castros & to close gitmo

[TyroneSlothrop]

 

[Rustic]

i know how this so called president's ego works, so he'll try to have/save some sort of legacy.

but we knew when he announced the trip what it was for.

public radio today said he probably wouldn't be swimming at those fabulous beaches, i don't know if fidel golfs.


Pentagon to submit Gitmo plan to Congress Tuesday


The Pentagon says it will meet Tuesday's deadline for submitting a plan to Congress to close the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay and move all the remaining prisoners, a spokesman said Monday.

"We understand that the deadline is tomorrow, and it's our intent to meet it," Navy Capt. Jeff Davis told reporters.

He noted that the plan will provide several options for closing the facility, including bringing remaining detainees to the United States, an idea that has met stiff opposition in Congress


why else would he give prisoners away after saying he couldn't hold them indefinitely without due process.

Raul Castro’s Long History of Crimes Against Humanity

Fidel Castro's greatest atrocities and crimes - Part 1 | Babalú Blog

obama in cuba will be the last display of communism in the western hemisphere. one would think hillary and bernie would want in on this.

Cuba: The Last Bastion of Communism in the Americas?

To hell with Cuba

 

[Rustic]

Ah..... All tear-y eyed are we??

 

[Rustic]

The visit to Cuba is the biggest diplomatic breakthrough since Nixon visited China

Gitmo will still be a US base, just the concentration camp will be gone. Republicans have blocked Obama from closing it for seven years so Obama has been bleeding it dry. Won't be many prisoners left by the time he leaves
Hopefully, Obama will bulldoze the place

Cuba will still be socialist, any sort of freedom and socialism will never mix. Dolt
Lol

 

[Rustic]

The visit to Cuba is the biggest diplomatic breakthrough since Nixon visited China

Gitmo will still be a US base, just the concentration camp will be gone. Republicans have blocked Obama from closing it for seven years so Obama has been bleeding it dry. Won't be many prisoners left by the time he leaves
Hopefully, Obama will bulldoze the place

 

[jasonnfree]

Being the free trade rat that obama has turned out to be, his intention may be to make Cuba another third world country to offshore manufacturing to. Maybe this will push Mexico to lower their maquiladora labor costs even more to stay competitive.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

What kinda gay wetdream are you having here?

 

[jasonnfree]

Are conservatives against this just because its Obama?

You'd think they'd be excited about opening up a new market for us biz .

Third world countries don't buy our stuff. Our trade imbalance with red china and south korea is a good example.

 

[Wry Catcher]

i know how this so called president's ego works, so he'll try to have/save some sort of legacy.

but we knew when he announced the trip what it was for.

public radio today said he probably wouldn't be swimming at those fabulous beaches, i don't know if fidel golfs.


Pentagon to submit Gitmo plan to Congress Tuesday


The Pentagon says it will meet Tuesday's deadline for submitting a plan to Congress to close the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay and move all the remaining prisoners, a spokesman said Monday.

"We understand that the deadline is tomorrow, and it's our intent to meet it," Navy Capt. Jeff Davis told reporters.

He noted that the plan will provide several options for closing the facility, including bringing remaining detainees to the United States, an idea that has met stiff opposition in Congress


why else would he give prisoners away after saying he couldn't hold them indefinitely without due process.

Raul Castro’s Long History of Crimes Against Humanity

Fidel Castro's greatest atrocities and crimes - Part 1 | Babalú Blog

obama in cuba will be the last display of communism in the western hemisphere. one would think hillary and bernie would want in on this.

Cuba: The Last Bastion of Communism in the Americas?

Does it not bother you that our country has detained human beings for years ignoring a right clearly stated and without ambiguity in the sixth amendment, a right first codified in the Magna Carta in 1215?

We know totalitarian regimes (Nazi Germany, for example) disregarded this basic human right, as well as other authoritarian governments throughout history. Do you support the right of government to do so?

It's odd that conservatives consider any form of gun control a sign that guns will be soon outlawed and confiscated (a slippery slope logical fallacy) and yet don't worry that some members of Congress and elected officials around the nation are cool with ignoring the right of habeas corpus when it suits them politically.

 

[Vandalshandle]

By golly, I am convinced. I will NEVER vote for Obama again!

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

We do bazZillions in trade wh commie China and no conservative cares.

Gitmo costs 1/2 a billion a year to run , "fiscal " conservatives don't care.

But cuba gets their panties all twisted ? !

Glad to see you concerned you are about human rights. Unless you are protesting the fact we are exploiting slave labor in China (along with countries like Vietnam ) and doing deals with cuba whose violations of basic human rights are well documented.

Well, which is it with you? You like the deal we have China and cuba? Or are you concerned about human rights?

Behold the liberal double talk everyone.

Do you think conservatives like me are not concerned about all of our jobs being shipped over seas? You are stupid.

Most conservatives are so incredibly stupid.

 

[Theowl32]

We do bazZillions in trade wh commie China and no conservative cares.

Gitmo costs 1/2 a billion a year to run , "fiscal " conservatives don't care.

But cuba gets their panties all twisted ? !

Glad to see you concerned you are about human rights. Unless you are protesting the fact we are exploiting slave labor in China (along with countries like Vietnam ) and doing deals with cuba whose violations of basic human rights are well documented.

Well, which is it with you? You like the deal we have China and cuba? Or are you concerned about human rights?

Behold the liberal double talk everyone.

Do you think conservatives like me are not concerned about all of our jobs being shipped over seas? You are stupid.

Most conservatives are so incredibly stupid.

Yeah, don't think I cannot see how you are evading the question and how you have no fucking clue how to deal with the cognitive dissonance that it has created in you.

Well, are you for human rights or not? If so, then explain how you feel about doing a deal with a country like cuba with such a well documented past in how they have dealt with human rights and more importantly how they still violate human rights ? How does it feel that we deal with China?

Or does your pathetic concern for human rights only stop at lip service?

Yeah, that is what we thought. Lip service. Your hypocrisy and evasion of the rhetorical questions is duly noted and noticed by everyone.

Another question.

How does it feel to know that you actually stand for nothing?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Cuba Has A Vaccine For Lung Cancer, And America Wants In
For 25 years, Cuba worked on developing a vaccine for lung cancer, and 2011 saw the availability of CimaVax, which prevents against a growth factor that can cause tumor cells to grow. In the video above, learn about the cheap vaccine, how it was made available for free in Cuba and why the U.S. wants in on it.

 

[washamericom]

So Obama scores another stunning foreign policy win, the USA and the world roar their approval, and the butthurt righties do what they always do, which is cry about it.

Righties, could you for once make the good of your country your priority? Yeah, I know, that's heresy to the right. Modern Republicans are like the old Soviet Communists, always putting TheParty before the nation.

depends which side you're on i guess, it's a stunning victory for cuba.

 

[washamericom]

Cuba Has A Vaccine For Lung Cancer, And America Wants In
For 25 years, Cuba worked on developing a vaccine for lung cancer, and 2011 saw the availability of CimaVax, which prevents against a growth factor that can cause tumor cells to grow. In the video above, learn about the cheap vaccine, how it was made available for free in Cuba and why the U.S. wants in on it.

read this edward snowden: NYT Calls Ahmadinejad “Puzzling, Conciliatory” | Sweetness & Light

 

[American_Jihad]

So Obama scores another stunning foreign policy win, the USA and the world roar their approval, and the butthurt righties do what they always do, which is cry about it.

Righties, could you for once make the good of your country your priority? Yeah, I know, that's heresy to the right. Modern Republicans are like the old Soviet Communists, always putting TheParty before the nation.

Mamoo, "Obama scores another stunning foreign policy win" ROLMAO
You silly lefties always trying to make the obongo look good when the whole world knows he's a fucking FAIL...

 

[American_Jihad]

i know how this so called president's ego works, so he'll try to have/save some sort of legacy.

but we knew when he announced the trip what it was for.

public radio today said he probably wouldn't be swimming at those fabulous beaches, i don't know if fidel golfs.


Pentagon to submit Gitmo plan to Congress Tuesday


The Pentagon says it will meet Tuesday's deadline for submitting a plan to Congress to close the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay and move all the remaining prisoners, a spokesman said Monday.

"We understand that the deadline is tomorrow, and it's our intent to meet it," Navy Capt. Jeff Davis told reporters.

He noted that the plan will provide several options for closing the facility, including bringing remaining detainees to the United States, an idea that has met stiff opposition in Congress


why else would he give prisoners away after saying he couldn't hold them indefinitely without due process.

Raul Castro’s Long History of Crimes Against Humanity

Fidel Castro's greatest atrocities and crimes - Part 1 | Babalú Blog

obama in cuba will be the last display of communism in the western hemisphere. one would think hillary and bernie would want in on this.

Cuba: The Last Bastion of Communism in the Americas?

Does it not bother you that our country has detained human beings for years ignoring a right clearly stated and without ambiguity in the sixth amendment, a right first codified in the Magna Carta in 1215?

We know totalitarian regimes (Nazi Germany, for example) disregarded this basic human right, as well as other authoritarian governments throughout history. Do you support the right of government to do so?

It's odd that conservatives consider any form of gun control a sign that guns will be soon outlawed and confiscated (a slippery slope logical fallacy) and yet don't worry that some members of Congress and elected officials around the nation are cool with ignoring the right of habeas corpus when it suits them politically.

CUT their fucking heads off...

 

[Wry Catcher]

i know how this so called president's ego works, so he'll try to have/save some sort of legacy.

but we knew when he announced the trip what it was for.

public radio today said he probably wouldn't be swimming at those fabulous beaches, i don't know if fidel golfs.


Pentagon to submit Gitmo plan to Congress Tuesday


The Pentagon says it will meet Tuesday's deadline for submitting a plan to Congress to close the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay and move all the remaining prisoners, a spokesman said Monday.

"We understand that the deadline is tomorrow, and it's our intent to meet it," Navy Capt. Jeff Davis told reporters.

He noted that the plan will provide several options for closing the facility, including bringing remaining detainees to the United States, an idea that has met stiff opposition in Congress


why else would he give prisoners away after saying he couldn't hold them indefinitely without due process.

Raul Castro’s Long History of Crimes Against Humanity

Fidel Castro's greatest atrocities and crimes - Part 1 | Babalú Blog

obama in cuba will be the last display of communism in the western hemisphere. one would think hillary and bernie would want in on this.

Cuba: The Last Bastion of Communism in the Americas?

Does it not bother you that our country has detained human beings for years ignoring a right clearly stated and without ambiguity in the sixth amendment, a right first codified in the Magna Carta in 1215?

We know totalitarian regimes (Nazi Germany, for example) disregarded this basic human right, as well as other authoritarian governments throughout history. Do you support the right of government to do so?

It's odd that conservatives consider any form of gun control a sign that guns will be soon outlawed and confiscated (a slippery slope logical fallacy) and yet don't worry that some members of Congress and elected officials around the nation are cool with ignoring the right of habeas corpus when it suits them politically.

CUT their fucking heads off...

It does not surprise me that you have more in common with the terrorists than with our founding fathers.

 

[American_Jihad]

i know how this so called president's ego works, so he'll try to have/save some sort of legacy.

but we knew when he announced the trip what it was for.

public radio today said he probably wouldn't be swimming at those fabulous beaches, i don't know if fidel golfs.


Pentagon to submit Gitmo plan to Congress Tuesday


The Pentagon says it will meet Tuesday's deadline for submitting a plan to Congress to close the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay and move all the remaining prisoners, a spokesman said Monday.

"We understand that the deadline is tomorrow, and it's our intent to meet it," Navy Capt. Jeff Davis told reporters.

He noted that the plan will provide several options for closing the facility, including bringing remaining detainees to the United States, an idea that has met stiff opposition in Congress


why else would he give prisoners away after saying he couldn't hold them indefinitely without due process.

Raul Castro’s Long History of Crimes Against Humanity

Fidel Castro's greatest atrocities and crimes - Part 1 | Babalú Blog

obama in cuba will be the last display of communism in the western hemisphere. one would think hillary and bernie would want in on this.

Cuba: The Last Bastion of Communism in the Americas?

Does it not bother you that our country has detained human beings for years ignoring a right clearly stated and without ambiguity in the sixth amendment, a right first codified in the Magna Carta in 1215?

We know totalitarian regimes (Nazi Germany, for example) disregarded this basic human right, as well as other authoritarian governments throughout history. Do you support the right of government to do so?

It's odd that conservatives consider any form of gun control a sign that guns will be soon outlawed and confiscated (a slippery slope logical fallacy) and yet don't worry that some members of Congress and elected officials around the nation are cool with ignoring the right of habeas corpus when it suits them politically.

CUT their fucking heads off...

It does not surprise me that you have more in common with the terrorists than with our founding fathers.

Bull shit you old fool, after 9/11 they would hang them...

 

[American_Jihad]

Gitmo Closure: One Battle Obama Will Lose
The president meets an insurmountable stumbling block.
February 25, 2016
Ari Lieberman

...

He claims that continued maintenance of Guantanamo harms partnerships with U.S. allies and that the issue of Guantanamo continuously arises in talks with world leaders who express angst over its existence. Obama was careful not to divulge which world leaders he was referring to but we can speculate. Perhaps the anguish came from the corrupt and tyrannical leaders of the House of Saud. That would be somewhat comical. Or maybe it was Obama’s good pal Erdogan of Turkey, whose nation has the dubious distinction of jailing and detaining more journalists than China or Iran. The United States does not need to be lectured by despots.

Lastly, Obama claims that Gitmo runs “contrary to our values” and, “is viewed as a stain on our broader record of upholding the highest standards of the rule of law.” I’m not really sure what he means by this argument. The detainees at Guantanamo are fed, clothed and otherwise treated humanely and to the extent possible, their religious beliefs are accommodated. Their treatment on U.S. soil would be no different.

Throughout his term of office, Obama has released or transferred nearly 150 Guantanamo detainees. Five high-level detainees were released in a blatantly illegal prisoner exchange for disgraced U.S. army deserter, Bowe Bergdahl. Of concern, is the rate of recidivism and many of those released have either joined or are suspected of joining entities that are hostile to the United States.

Moreover, transfer of high-level detainees to the U.S. mainland, even if legal would create additional security headaches and would impose an additional burden on the states that house them. Those facilities would also create an attractive target for terrorists. Guantanamo conversely, is on an island, completely secure from such threats.

Polls consistently show that the American people are dead-set against Obama’s plan to nix Guantanamo and by wide margins. But even if Obama could somehow sway the populace, he would still face significant legal hurdles to enforcing his convoluted agenda. Indeed, both Secretary of State Ash Carter and Attorney General Loretta Lynch have acknowledged that under current law, Obama’s plan could not be implemented without congressional approval.

But this president has demonstrated a penchant for conducting himself in the most unscrupulous manner. On everything ranging from the Affordable Care Act to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, Obama has lied, cajoled, bullied and otherwise circumvented the law to ram his agenda down the America’s throat. With respect to Guantanamo, the White House has already refused to rule out unilateral action to enforce closure of the facility. But as indicated by Obama’s own high-level cabinet members, this is one showdown that the president cannot hope to win without congressional approval, and that prospect seems highly unlikely.

Gitmo Closure: One Battle Obama Will Lose