Obama UN Speech on Mideast Talks "Filled with Empty Words"

[Marc39]

The Economist

That would be the Economist magazine based in Europe where Turkey will never be accepted into the EU because the Europeans want nothing to do with Armenian genocide denying Turkish Muslim trash.

Suck Sudan's dick.

 

[ekrem]

(...) moral depravity of Turks (...)

Unfortunately, besides the Russians, the Orthodox world did not produce anything significant which turned out to be competitive in modern times.
The rest of them are just big whiners living in an illusion of past grandeur whilst since that past many others swept over them.
I really do not want to begin counting how many foreign nations have ruled over the Armenians, Serbs and Greeks.

To mix with different races is a privilege, once you have the option to mix out of free will.
Probably in case of Armenia there was not involved any free will at all.
Like the female Helicopter pilot in movie Avatar said: "Now that's a bitch".

 

[Marc39]

illusion of past grandeur

The long-defunct Ottoman Empire.

 

[hipeter924]

(...) Turkey (...) its like a big thug (...)

The Economist

And, notes a Western official,
“when it comes to Turkey and Armenia, Turkey wins every time.”

The Economist | Turkish foreign policy: Dreams from their fathers

Now go and sink into your insignificance in your insignificant genocide forums you are browsing besides usmb.com.

As for Armenia and Turkey protocols, its like a big thug bullying a small nation (Turkey demanded Armenia hand over territory to Azerbaijan with no guarantee of peace or anything to have the 'pleasure' of discussing an open border). Armenia only has 3 million, whereas Turkey has 10s of millions (which means that Turkey is able to bribe and bully Congress).

What's the matter, too much of a coward to quote me fully? Or like your genocide denying, religious nationalist fanatics you are too stuck in your hate to see the truth? Go back to receiving your blood money from Turkey, in whatever it is you do.

PS: They are more significant than the Turkish government funded denial forums, which only attract deluded Turkish nut cases. Plus you can't get a single academic to support you, that is unless they are Turkish, a radical Muslim or in your pay pocket.

 

[ekrem]

illusion of past grandeur

The long-defunct Ottoman Empire.

Ottoman comes from Osman, who is first ruler of that dynasty.
Seljuk Empire comes from Seljuk.
Timurid Empire comes from Timur (Tamerlane).
(...)
List of Turkic dynasties and countries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Turks come and go with different names and sizes.
Yet, they always come again. No "one show"-wonder like the Mongols or Spanish and maybe the Americans (?).

Ghazi (warrior) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Akinci - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No side-standers, but always on the frontier of Islamic warfare, except modern times.

 

[hipeter924]

illusion of past grandeur

The long-defunct Ottoman Empire.

Ottoman comes from Osman, who is first ruler of that dynasty.
Seljuk Empire comes from Seljuk.
Timurid Empire comes from Timur (Tamerlane).
(...)
List of Turkic dynasties and countries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Turks come and go with different names and sizes.
Yet, they always come again. No "one show"-wonder like the Mongols or Spanish and maybe the Americans (?).

Ghazi (warrior) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Akinci - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No side-standers, but always on the frontier of Islamic warfare, except modern times.

Still waiting for this Turkic super state. How's wiping out and destroying all the Armenian's and Iranian's going?
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHTwRcRf3v8&feature=related[/ame]

 

[Marc39]

illusion of past grandeur

The long-defunct Ottoman Empire.

Ottoman comes from Osman, who is first ruler of that dynasty.
Seljuk Empire comes from Seljuk.
Timurid Empire comes from Timur (Tamerlane).
(...)
List of Turkic dynasties and countries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Turks come and go with different names and sizes.
Yet, they always come again. No "one show"-wonder like the Mongols or Spanish and maybe the Americans (?).

Ghazi (warrior) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Akinci - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No side-standers, but always on the frontier of Islamic warfare, except modern times.

I don't need a history lesson from you, Muhammad. The Ottoman Turks were the Sick Man of Europe and your lousy caliphate responsible for the genocide of 2 million Armenians is DEFUNCT.

 

[hipeter924]

The long-defunct Ottoman Empire.

Ottoman comes from Osman, who is first ruler of that dynasty.
Seljuk Empire comes from Seljuk.
Timurid Empire comes from Timur (Tamerlane).
(...)
List of Turkic dynasties and countries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Turks come and go with different names and sizes.
Yet, they always come again. No "one show"-wonder like the Mongols or Spanish and maybe the Americans (?).

Ghazi (warrior) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Akinci - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No side-standers, but always on the frontier of Islamic warfare, except modern times.

I don't need a history lesson from you, Muhammad. The Ottoman Turks were the Sick Man of Europe and your lousy caliphate responsible for the genocide of 2 million Armenians is DEFUNCT.

4 million if you add the rest of the people it killed over the years (including the Dersim Genocide of the Kurds).

 

[Marc39]

Ottoman comes from Osman, who is first ruler of that dynasty.
Seljuk Empire comes from Seljuk.
Timurid Empire comes from Timur (Tamerlane).
(...)
List of Turkic dynasties and countries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Turks come and go with different names and sizes.
Yet, they always come again. No "one show"-wonder like the Mongols or Spanish and maybe the Americans (?).

Ghazi (warrior) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Akinci - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No side-standers, but always on the frontier of Islamic warfare, except modern times.

I don't need a history lesson from you, Muhammad. The Ottoman Turks were the Sick Man of Europe and your lousy caliphate responsible for the genocide of 2 million Armenians is DEFUNCT.

4 million if you add the rest of the people it killed over the years (including the Dersim Genocide of the Kurds).

Hundreds of millions killed if we want to count all the Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastrians and other infidels slaughtered by the genocidal Muhammadan over 1400 yrs. and to today.

 

[ekrem]

Still waiting for this Turkic super state. How's wiping out and destroying all the Armenian's and Iranian's going?

Like I said before to you: Average Turks do not think about Armenia.
There is no motivation to destroy it. You should stop reading your schizophrenic genocide forums.

With the Iranian's there was no major war since 1639.

 

[hipeter924]

Still waiting for this Turkic super state. How's wiping out and destroying all the Armenian's and Iranian's going?

Like I said before to you: Average Turks do not think about Armenia.
There is no motivation to destroy it. You should stop reading your schizophrenic genocide forums.

With the Iranian's there was no major war since 1639.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRL_tsr52ww&has_verified=1[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBQzP7phNsA&feature=related[/ame]

There was a genocide in 1915, and you are sick evil fuck to deny it.

 

[ekrem]

4 million if you add the rest of the people it killed (...)

Innocent until proven guilty.
If you've a problem with this concept, tell your looser states to take the issue to International Courts. Such Courts were founded for these reasons.

Very suspicious that you don't go to court if you are that confident with your claims.
We simply made anti-terrorist operations against Orthodox jihadists who engaged in offensive war against the Ottomans within Ottoman territory whilst Ottoman Army was fighting whole world during WW1.

We sent you from Eastern-Anatolia to the Syrian desert. Eastern Anatolia was battlezone with Russia.
No Orthodox Armenians needed there to weaken the frontier against Orthodox Russia.
It was the right decision from military standpoint.

You tried to gain independence making Orthodox jihad, you failed. Consequently we sent you into Syrian desert.

 

[hipeter924]

4 million if you add the rest of the people it killed (...)

Innocent until proven guilty.
If you've a problem with this concept, tell your looser states to take the issue to International Courts. Such Courts were founded for these reasons.

Very suspicious that you don't go to court if you are that confident with your claims.
We simply made anti-terrorist operations against Orthodox jihadists declareing war upon the Ottomans.

That bullshit cover story of your's makes me laugh.

There already was a trial in Turkey after the first world war, and even your nations founder Atatürk said it occurred at the time of the trial.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFiEbJ_2g2s&feature=related[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

4 million if you add the rest of the people it killed (...)

Innocent until proven guilty.
If you've a problem with this concept, tell your looser states to take the issue to International Courts. Such Courts were founded for these reasons.

Very suspicious that you don't go to court if you are that confident with your claims.
We simply made anti-terrorist operations against Orthodox jihadists who engaged in offensive war against the Ottomans within Ottoman territory whilst Ottoman Army was fighting whole world during WW1.

It is said that Hamas violates international law but I don't see anyone taking them to court.

The Goldstone Report accuses Hamas so you would think Israel would endorse it.

 

[hipeter924]

4 million if you add the rest of the people it killed (...)

Innocent until proven guilty.
If you've a problem with this concept, tell your looser states to take the issue to International Courts. Such Courts were founded for these reasons.

Very suspicious that you don't go to court if you are that confident with your claims.
We simply made anti-terrorist operations against Orthodox jihadists who engaged in offensive war against the Ottomans within Ottoman territory whilst Ottoman Army was fighting whole world during WW1.

It is said that Hamas violates international law but I don't see anyone taking them to court.

The Goldstone Report accuses Hamas so you would think Israel would endorse it.

International courts are hardly worthwhile, Milosevich for example died before anyone got justice.

Slobodan Milo?evi? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ekrem]

That bullshit cover story of your's makes me laugh.

No try, no gain.
Orthodox Serbs tried with help of Orthodox Russia and they gained their independence from Ottomans.
History of modern Serbia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Orthodox Armenians tried, they failed.
Everyone is responsible for their own actions.

WW 1 -- Caucasus Campaign
Caucasus Campaign - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Marc39]

4 million if you add the rest of the people it killed (...)

Innocent until proven guilty.
If you've a problem with this concept, tell your looser states to take the issue to International Courts. Such Courts were founded for these reasons.

Very suspicious that you don't go to court if you are that confident with your claims.
We simply made anti-terrorist operations against Orthodox jihadists who engaged in offensive war against the Ottomans within Ottoman territory whilst Ottoman Army was fighting whole world during WW1.

It is said that Hamas violates international law but I don't see anyone taking them to court.

Do you see Hamas targeting civilian Israeli population centers with rockets? That constitutes a violation of intl law.

Do you see Hamas fighting out of uniform? Constitutes a violation of intl law.

Do you see Hamas fighting without weapons in full view? A violation of intl law.

Do you see Hamas infiltrating hospitals, schools, zoos and private homes with military bases? Another violation of intl law.

Do you see Hamas denying Gilad Shalit regular Red Cross exams and reports? A violation of intl law.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Innocent until proven guilty.
If you've a problem with this concept, tell your looser states to take the issue to International Courts. Such Courts were founded for these reasons.

Very suspicious that you don't go to court if you are that confident with your claims.
We simply made anti-terrorist operations against Orthodox jihadists who engaged in offensive war against the Ottomans within Ottoman territory whilst Ottoman Army was fighting whole world during WW1.

It is said that Hamas violates international law but I don't see anyone taking them to court.

Do you see Hamas targeting civilian Israeli population centers with rockets? That constitutes a violation of intl law.

Do you see Hamas fighting out of uniform? Constitutes a violation of intl law.

Do you see Hamas fighting without weapons in full view? A violation of intl law.

Do you see Hamas infiltrating hospitals, schools, zoos and private homes with military bases? Another violation of intl law.

Do you see Hamas denying Gilad Shalit regular Red Cross exams and reports? A violation of intl law.

So why isn't Israel taking them to court?

 

[hipeter924]

It is said that Hamas violates international law but I don't see anyone taking them to court.

Do you see Hamas targeting civilian Israeli population centers with rockets? That constitutes a violation of intl law.

Do you see Hamas fighting out of uniform? Constitutes a violation of intl law.

Do you see Hamas fighting without weapons in full view? A violation of intl law.

Do you see Hamas infiltrating hospitals, schools, zoos and private homes with military bases? Another violation of intl law.

Do you see Hamas denying Gilad Shalit regular Red Cross exams and reports? A violation of intl law.

So why isn't Israel taking them to court?

As I said it wouldn't make a difference whether they take them to court or not. Would any Hamas member or Israeli government member agree to be bound in shackles before the ICC?

Worked great in Darfur.

Ekem: I don't need your rambling, the leading genocide scholars (the vast majority of the world intellectuals) already recognize the Armenian, Assyrian, Pontian, and Dersim (Kurdish Genocide) is getting recognition as we speak. All the Muslim nations (save Turkey/Azerbajian) neither confirm or deny the Genocide and have great respect for the Armenian community. As for Iran, it is closer to Armenia than Turkey/Azerbajian, and if you try to invade Armenia again just remember you will be fighting Iranian's, Armenian's, Kurd's and Russian's all at once. Plus expect the Armenian community across the middle east, Europe and America to ensure no help for you from any other nation.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzpGrC6rm-g&feature=related[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5hwD9bqOuE&feature=related[/ame]

 

[ekrem]

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Marc39 likes to link Bernard Lewis books.
Why not have him audio-visually comparing Armenians and Jews?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG70UWESfu4]YouTube - Bernard Lewis Speaking on Armenian Allegations[/ame]