Obama Supporters and Liberals Please Explain...

[rdean]

...how President Obama is smart enough to have "pulled the economy back from the brink" yet doesn't have the slightest clue about job creation?

I'm having trouble understanding how he could do one but not the other. It's all about economics is it not?

It's like the NFL quarterback who knows how to throw passes but can't hand the ball off the the running backs. That kind of player just doesn't exist. Or if he did he'd be benched rather quickly I think.

Please help me understand.

Here, let me help.

All Obama can do is create the environment for job creation. We know that business is holding back to try to make Obama look bad.

And why is that?

Business knows that Republicans don't give a shit about the middle class. Neither are they particularly concerned about the country. They want to end regulations on everything from protecting the environment to business running wild.

If given the chance, Republicans would give tax credits to companies to help them move overseas. They probably did and we don't know about it.

Look who Republicans want to put in office. Someone like Carly Fiorina, someone who moved 18,000 jobs overseas to China to a factory with working condition so poor, they have had 10 suicides in the last couple of months and striking worker just negotiated DOUBLING their salaries to 293 FUCKING DOLLARS A MONTH.

This is what Republics want for this country. They hate us or they're retarded. Which is it?

Where are Republican speeches about improving American lives. No, it's only about apologizing to companies that ruin us because we aren't thankful for being ruined.

 

[Samson]

...how President Obama is smart enough to have "pulled the economy back from the brink" yet doesn't have the slightest clue about job creation?

I'm having trouble understanding how he could do one but not the other. It's all about economics is it not?

It's like the NFL quarterback who knows how to throw passes but can't hand the ball off the the running backs. That kind of player just doesn't exist. Or if he did he'd be benched rather quickly I think.

Please help me understand.

Here, let me help.

All Obama can do is create the environment for job creation. We know that business is holding back to try to make Obama look bad..

rdean, we do not "know that business is holding back to try to make Obama look bad."

How absurd. Such a statement only emphasizes the lack of common business sense Obama supporters have: Holding back what...exactly? Investing in growth?

You mean ALL WORLDWIDE COMPETITION has decided to hold back growth so that US businesses can try to make Obama "Look Bad."

Or do you mean US businesses would jeapardise Worldwide market share just to make Obama "Look Bad."

Either scenario is ridiculous.

 

[oreo]

Hello? TM? Anyone?

Yeah, I didn't think you Liberals could explain that one.

Because, bless your retarded little soul, unemployment is always the last indicator to fluctuate in any business cycle; Last down, last back up. That should be enough for you to shut up, but I know it isn't. So lets talk specifically about what's been happening around here.

I know it's hard for you to believe in the bubble you've built around yourself, but the economy would only be marginally different regardless of who won. We're coming out of an economy that was bloated to the gills and has contracted. Meanwhile, due to the actions of the private sector and the indifference of both political parties, manufacturing jobs have been sent overseas. Unfortunately, not everyone is cut out to be a hedge fund manager, and there's only so many shit retail jobs to be had. For a whole generation that's been living on borrowed time, the time has come to pay the piper.

Since you're so brilliant, why don't you tell us what he should do? Well he can't create jobs directly, right, that'd be soooooocialism! Sure, he could cut taxes for the rich [Amazing how they've convinced you THAT will suddenly work, despite 30 years of epic failure] and create a bunch more jobs in Asia, but don't we have a deficit problem to worry about as well?

What he's trying to do, much to the chagrin of the Republicans, is position the US as a leader in new economies, namely alternative fuels and smart grid technology. I happen to think that besides re-negotiating trade deals and/or increasing tariffs [my long-held suggestion], that's the best path to sustainability. But it's not an instant gratification endeavor, mmmmkay?

Employment in this country is a LEADING indicator--not a lagging one. When employees are NEEDED they are immediately hired. When the economy slows--they are the FIRST ones to get laid off. That's why employment numbers are counted weekly--with monthly summaries.

The opt's article is basically asking--why is Obama out there touting--a recovery--when there is NONE. Everyone understands that the economy was falling off of a cliff before Obama came into office--but the "created jobs--then went to "saved" jobs--and we find out that the "saved" jobs are primarily GOVERNMENT JOBS--and not newly created jobs in the private sector. This while we were told that if we didn't spend 787 BILLION tax-payer dollars--unemployment would go over 8.2%. Well it's gone much higher than 8.2%--and it's stayed there.

This is Obama's flood the basement economics--and it has been a total failure. The only thing his utter ignorance has done has run us into unsustainable DEBT that we may never recover from.

 

[Avorysuds]

...how President Obama is smart enough to have "pulled the economy back from the brink" yet doesn't have the slightest clue about job creation?

I'm having trouble understanding how he could do one but not the other. It's all about economics is it not?

It's like the NFL quarterback who knows how to throw passes but can't hand the ball off the the running backs. That kind of player just doesn't exist. Or if he did he'd be benched rather quickly I think.

Please help me understand.

Here, let me help.

All Obama can do is create the environment for job creation. We know that business is holding back to try to make Obama look bad..

rdean, we do not "know that business is holding back to try to make Obama look bad."

How absurd. Such a statement only emphasizes the lack of common business sense Obama supporters have: Holding back what...exactly? Investing in growth?

You mean ALL WORLDWIDE COMPETITION has decided to hold back growth so that US businesses can try to make Obama "Look Bad."

Or do you mean US businesses would jeapardise Worldwide market share just to make Obama "Look Bad."

Either scenario is ridiculous.

You have to understand that the "Bush's fault" line ain't working anymore. Now it's "The world's fault" that Obama looks like a silly fucking worthless prsident. See, it's the same tactic of shifting the blame only now instead of Obama taking responcability by blaming Bush, he can now blame everyone else in the world. At least that's what the Obama supports are saying these days, from the looks of it.

 

[oreo]

Here, let me help.

All Obama can do is create the environment for job creation. We know that business is holding back to try to make Obama look bad..

rdean, we do not "know that business is holding back to try to make Obama look bad."

How absurd. Such a statement only emphasizes the lack of common business sense Obama supporters have: Holding back what...exactly? Investing in growth?

You mean ALL WORLDWIDE COMPETITION has decided to hold back growth so that US businesses can try to make Obama "Look Bad."

Or do you mean US businesses would jeapardise Worldwide market share just to make Obama "Look Bad."

Either scenario is ridiculous.

You have to understand that the "Bush's fault" line ain't working anymore. Now it's "The world's fault" that Obama looks like a silly fucking worthless prsident. See, it's the same tactic of shifting the blame only now instead of Obama taking responcability by blaming Bush, he can now blame everyone else in the world. At least that's what the Obama supports are saying these days, from the looks of it.

That's his entire Presidency so far. This man wakes up in the morning--and has to figure out who to blame for what-ever--- He's on the wrong side of every single issue with Americans--as far as Obamacare--illegal immigration--GITMO--trying terrorist's in NY City, etc. etc. etc. The "mask" has come of off this man--he is a socialist. He believes in wealth redistribution--and he plans to tax the crap out of everyone, including the middle class so he can redistribute it.

Obama is well on track to beat Jimmy Carter's record of being the WORST POTUS in decades.

 

[Mad Scientist]

you truly are a dumb fuck, aren't ya? uh huh.

But I'll never steal your crown: Dante: King of Dumbfucks.

I did not vote for obama because I thought he could fix all the problems in the country.

Well that's good because now you won't be that disappointed when he fixes none of the problems.

We know that business is holding back to try to make Obama look bad.

Oh of course! Business destroys itself just to spite Obama. It's because he's Black right? Come on! Play that Race Card, you got nuthin' else!

rdean, like the rest of the Liberal posters in this thread, urine idiot.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

you truly are a dumb fuck, aren't ya? uh huh.

But I'll never steal your crown: Dante: King of Dumbfucks.

uh huh!

 

[Samson]

you truly are a dumb fuck, aren't ya? uh huh.

But I'll never steal your crown: Dante: King of Dumbfucks.
.

Yeah, Dante has that crown bolted to his head.

 

[NYcarbineer]

...how President Obama is smart enough to have "pulled the economy back from the brink" yet doesn't have the slightest clue about job creation?

I'm having trouble understanding how he could do one but not the other. It's all about economics is it not?

It's like the NFL quarterback who knows how to throw passes but can't hand the ball off the the running backs. That kind of player just doesn't exist. Or if he did he'd be benched rather quickly I think.

Please help me understand.

Your premise is retarded. Seriously.

 

[Wry Catcher]

...how President Obama is smart enough to have "pulled the economy back from the brink" yet doesn't have the slightest clue about job creation?

I'm having trouble understanding how he could do one but not the other. It's all about economics is it not?

It's like the NFL quarterback who knows how to throw passes but can't hand the ball off the the running backs. That kind of player just doesn't exist. Or if he did he'd be benched rather quickly I think.

Please help me understand.

Your premise is retarded. Seriously.

Here are some facts to ponder:
FACTBOX-Wall St bill speeds TARP wind down | Reuters

Too many post too many partisan threads and messages posited on opinions and talking partisan talking points. Obama wants a dialogue on energy policy, a potential job maker with many upsides. Sadly, the same propaganda purveyors attack 'green' energy with the same platitudes they attack every effort at change.
The callous conservatives have morphed even further right, into a neo-reactionary force hoping to return to the Bush era policy of don't regulate, the market will fix everything.

 

[daveman]

...how President Obama is smart enough to have "pulled the economy back from the brink" yet doesn't have the slightest clue about job creation?

Dood. These are the same people who firmly believe that:

1. Bush was the stupidest man in the world, and

2. Smart enough to fool the whole world (including intellectual Democrats) into thinking Iraq had WMD.

Holding two mutually-exclusive ideas in their pointy little heads is no problem at all.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

...how President Obama is smart enough to have "pulled the economy back from the brink" yet doesn't have the slightest clue about job creation?

I'm having trouble understanding how he could do one but not the other. It's all about economics is it not?

It's like the NFL quarterback who knows how to throw passes but can't hand the ball off the the running backs. That kind of player just doesn't exist. Or if he did he'd be benched rather quickly I think.

Please help me understand.

you truly are a dumb fuck, aren't ya? uh huh.

 

[Flopper]

The only possible answer has to be....he doesn't want the economy or job creation to get better.He has a genuine hatred for the Country as it is now.If you have wealth you got it by fraud or corruption or illegally.The liberals from Pelosi to Reed,to Biden,all wealthy people believe that rich people need to be punished.How dare they have more then everyone else.Oh by the way the people I just mentioned are all very wealthy.I saw Ed Shultz from MSNBC tonight talk about the estate tax/death tax....He was angry that people who's relatives have died get money that they haven't EARNED.....They should be taxed heavily and then the government can get their hands on it to distribute among the people.
And they say all the time they are not socialists.People who earn money and get taxed and pay that tax
will now be taxed again after they have passed on....When is the tax on the citizens of the country enough for these people?

"The only possible answer has to be....he doesn't want the economy or job creation to get better." I have read some dumb statements on these boards but this has to be one of the dumbest. Job creation is the key to the success of his presidency. Without job creation he has little chance for reelection.

 

[Care4all]

Actually, those that got the huge tax breaks under president Bush, with all the tax break "money" to create jobs, have chosen NOT to do such.....

that's what I heard on the 24/7.

Now, if they are doing such to hurt President Obama and us as the bi-product, so that he does not win the next election as some speculated...

Or because they are afraid to spend their tax break money because they are afraid of the unseen, the unknown which others have speculated...

It is in the hands of the wealthiest, not in the hands of the one single person, Obama, to create jobs in the Private sector.....

In addition to this, productivity once again has improved and fewer people are producing more in the work place....thus fewer people needed to do the jobs on hand.

 

[Bob Roberts]

Employment in this country is a LEADING indicator--not a lagging one. When employees are NEEDED they are immediately hired. When the economy slows--they are the FIRST ones to get laid off. That's why employment numbers are counted weekly--with monthly summaries.

"A lagging indicator is one that follows an event. Back to our traffic light example: the amber light is a lagging indicator for the green light because amber trails green. The importance of a lagging indicator is its ability to confirm that a pattern is occurring or about to occur. Unemployment is one of the most popular lagging indicators. If the unemployment rate is rising, it indicates that the economy has been doing poorly."

What are leading, lagging and coincident indicators? What are they for?

 

[Cuyo]

Employment in this country is a LEADING indicator--not a lagging one. When employees are NEEDED they are immediately hired. When the economy slows--they are the FIRST ones to get laid off. That's why employment numbers are counted weekly--with monthly summaries.

"A lagging indicator is one that follows an event. Back to our traffic light example: the amber light is a lagging indicator for the green light because amber trails green. The importance of a lagging indicator is its ability to confirm that a pattern is occurring or about to occur. Unemployment is one of the most popular lagging indicators. If the unemployment rate is rising, it indicates that the economy has been doing poorly."

What are leading, lagging and coincident indicators? What are they for?

Leave the study of economics to smart people, Oreo, mmkay?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Given that the jobs situation in this country did a 180 in the 1st quarter of 2009, from freefall to steady improvement,

what exactly is the OP based on?

...other than the aforementioned retardation...