Obama still wants to "Bankrupt" Coal... Denying that is to Deny Reality...

Did you see this press release put out by the coal company in Ohio who were used in an Obama ad that was insinuating they were forced to attend a Romney rally held on their grounds. Very well stated, and I'm glad they came out and spoke publically about the lies being told. I think Romney is going to win Ohio. A little long, but worth watching. These people are taking Obama's war on coal very seriously.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzU3oZLV8Hw]Miners Fight Back Against Obama TV Ad: "Absolute Lies" - YouTube[/ame]
 
How many old videos can we take out of context this week??:clap2::clap2:

This is why Romney is going to lose.
 
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Quarterly Coal Report - Energy Information Administration
 
obama is closing the coal mines and he's closing the coal fired power plants. Weeks ago I saw obama losing Ohio over the coal issue.

The democrats want to close out coal and move to natural gas because they are already laying the foundation to close out natural gas. The democrats have no intention of permitting fracking any longer than it takes to shut down the coal industry. Natural gas serves no other purpose than to close out energy production through coal. Once it is no longer necessary democrats can progress to closing out natural gas.

Step by step, eliminating one industry at a time. We can be basically without energy at all.

May 17,2008

"We can't drive our SUVs and, you know, eat as much as we want and keep our homes on, you know, 72 degrees at all times, whether we're living in the desert or we're living in the tundra, and then just expect every other country is going to say OK,

What do you think he meant by that statement? Does that signal a move away from coal to natural gas? No. It's a statement that says we will have to reduce our energy use and learn to be less mobile, more hungry and as cold or hot as the temperature permits.
 
This is precisely why Obama is going to lose Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Virginia.
 
obama is closing the coal mines and he's closing the coal fired power plants. Weeks ago I saw obama losing Ohio over the coal issue.

The democrats want to close out coal and move to natural gas because they are already laying the foundation to close out natural gas. The democrats have no intention of permitting fracking any longer than it takes to shut down the coal industry. Natural gas serves no other purpose than to close out energy production through coal. Once it is no longer necessary democrats can progress to closing out natural gas.

Step by step, eliminating one industry at a time. We can be basically without energy at all.

May 17,2008

"We can't drive our SUVs and, you know, eat as much as we want and keep our homes on, you know, 72 degrees at all times, whether we're living in the desert or we're living in the tundra, and then just expect every other country is going to say OK,

What do you think he meant by that statement? Does that signal a move away from coal to natural gas? No. It's a statement that says we will have to reduce our energy use and learn to be less mobile, more hungry and as cold or hot as the temperature permits.

That's an interesting theory. I hope you understand that this industry is engaged in a daily fight to protect fracturing and natural gas production and marketing. Also, nat gas export terminals are being seriously reviewed...

A string of companies have applied for permission to export liquefied natural gas, or L.N.G., to countries that don’t have special free-trade agreements with the United States. Under federal law, the Energy Department has to find such exports to be consistent with the “national interest” before they can occur, though the term isn’t clearly defined.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/16/opinion/the-case-for-natural-gas-exports.html?_r=0
 
Coal is dying because Natural Gas is dirt cheap. All the coal fired electrical generating plants are switching to natural gas because it is cheaper and causes less damage in use thus lowering maintenance costs. Fracking is killing the coal industry, not Obama, but you knew that already.
 
obama is closing the coal mines and he's closing the coal fired power plants. Weeks ago I saw obama losing Ohio over the coal issue.

The democrats want to close out coal and move to natural gas because they are already laying the foundation to close out natural gas. The democrats have no intention of permitting fracking any longer than it takes to shut down the coal industry. Natural gas serves no other purpose than to close out energy production through coal. Once it is no longer necessary democrats can progress to closing out natural gas.

Step by step, eliminating one industry at a time. We can be basically without energy at all.

May 17,2008

"We can't drive our SUVs and, you know, eat as much as we want and keep our homes on, you know, 72 degrees at all times, whether we're living in the desert or we're living in the tundra, and then just expect every other country is going to say OK,

What do you think he meant by that statement? Does that signal a move away from coal to natural gas? No. It's a statement that says we will have to reduce our energy use and learn to be less mobile, more hungry and as cold or hot as the temperature permits.
That is the stupidest conspiracy theory yet!

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There's a slowdown in coal mining because coal can't compete with natural gas with the latter at low prices.

That's not Obama's fault.

I think your seriously misinformed. The EPA is systematically killing the industry.
Just an endless stream of CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood BULLSHIT!

Who's Winning The Natural Gas Game? - Natural Gas Boom Threatens Coal - US Business News - CNBC

For U.S. power plant operators, the economics of natural gas may have already dethroned coal as the nation's key source of electrical power.

"Natural gas is, and is likely to remain, the low-cost option for new generation capacity," says Mark Fulton, managing director of Deutsche Bank's DB Climate Change Advisors.

The U.S. Energy Information Administration, EIA, estimates that nearly 500 trillion cubic feet of natural gas are recoverable in shale formations, like the Marcellus one that spans New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania and West Virginia, significantly boosting national gas reserves to what some estimate is a 100-plus-year supply.

An abundant supply of fuel is great, but modern gas-fired power plants also have lower operating costs than their antiquated coal-fired counterparts, folding in technological improvements that span not just years, but generations.

A November 2010 EIA report on power plant operating costs — the latest data available — found that a typical coal-fired plant costs $2,800 to $3,200/kilowatt of generation capacity, while a modern natural gas-fired plant costs around $1,000/kilowatt.

Combine significantly cheaper fuel costs and leaner operating costs, and electricity from a convention coal fired plant costs 9.5 cents/per kilowatt hour to produce, compared with 6.6 cents at a conventional modern gas plant, according to EIA's Energy Outlook 2011.

Lower costs are already having an effect.

According to the most recent EIA figures, natural gas use in electricity generation rose by 40 percent year-over-year in March, while coal's market share fell by 20 percent.

While coal prices have also dropped by over 25 percent since April, experts say it won't affect the preference for natural gas.

The EIA says that of the 52 gigawatts (gw) of new power generation capacity to be added to the U.S. grid by 2015, half will come from natural gas. That's 10 times that of coal, which will fall into fourth place behind solar and wind power.
 
How many old videos can we take out of context this week??:clap2::clap2:

This is why Romney is going to lose.

Yeah, sure. :lol:

There is nothing out of context. Usually I have to look at what Obama DOES, not what he says; but in the case he is actually doing what he says he'd do. Good for Obama! Even though his policy is wrongheaded and inane, at least he kept a promise.

Obama made his "energy" bets - he put it all on "alternative" and "green" energy....he has little to brag about.
 
There's a slowdown in coal mining because coal can't compete with natural gas with the latter at low prices.

That's not Obama's fault.

That isn't why you shut down coal fire power plants that are already in operation. Building a gas fire replace will always cost more than keeping the existing plant running.
 
There's a slowdown in coal mining because coal can't compete with natural gas with the latter at low prices.

That's not Obama's fault.

That isn't why you shut down coal fire power plants that are already in operation. Building a gas fire replace will always cost more than keeping the existing plant running.
Apparently not. I have friends in the Boilermakers and right now most of their work is coming from converting coal fired plants to natural gas, so there must some profit in the conversion!
 

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