Obama muzzles Benghazi Witness before hearings.

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This is a really sneaky, dirty, rotten way of preventing a witness from testifying before Congress.

Refuse to give their lawyer the security clearance they need to help the witness prepare.

Fourth Benghazi witness gagged by red tape | The Daily Caller

Obama administration officials are finally letting the attorney for a Benghazi whistle-blower get a security clearance — but the clearance is at such a low level that it will probably slow the congressional probe of how the administration handled last year’s terrorist attack on the embassy in Benghazi, Libya.

Victoria Toensing represents an unnamed government official who can help explain the reaction of top government officials to the jihadi attack on the U.S diplomatic site in Benghazi and killed four Americans last Sept. 11.

The official may also be able to explain if officials rewrote intelligence reports and took other actions to minimize media coverage of the administration’s errors and the perceived role of Al Qaeda jihadis.


At least three officials will testify today at a House hearing about the scandal, and are expected to say top officials at the Department of State took actions to minimize political damage to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. In the days after the attack, officials claimed the attack had resulted from a spontaneous demonstration against an anti-Muslim film. That story was quickly refuted, although the filmmaker was arrested on a probation violation and remains in prison.

Toensing’s client will not be able to testify at public or closed-door hearings because he or she has not been able to prepare classified testimony with the aid of a lawyer, Toensing told The Daily Caller.

Toensing, who previously held top-level security clearances while working as a Deputy Attorney General at the Justice Department’s anti-terrorism unit, has asked government officials to update her past clearances to let her work with her client. But the officials initially refused to provide her with the needed forms, she said.

Officials have now provided a 42-page security clearance form, which Toensing filled out and returned, she told TheDC. But the form is only for a basic security clearance, not a “top secret” clearance, she said.

That’s “not sufficient,” she said.


Toensing said she and her client have talked extensively about unclassified events. But they can’t talk freely about classified event or actions, even in a private conversation.

Toensing said she’s now pushing officials to get the higher clearance, she said, to ensure that her client is prepared to explain fully what happened to legislators during top-secret hearings.
 
LiveHearing on Benghazi attack, aftermath



12:14 PMSkeptical mother of slain diplomat Sean Smith in attendance

12:13 PMConservatives complain about lack of news coverage

12:07 PMNordstrom has testified on Benghazi before

This was on the Washpo front page. Irony, Conservatives complain about lack of coverage while getting coverage.
 
LiveHearing on Benghazi attack, aftermath



12:14 PMSkeptical mother of slain diplomat Sean Smith in attendance

12:13 PMConservatives complain about lack of news coverage

12:07 PMNordstrom has testified on Benghazi before

This was on the Washpo front page. Irony, Conservatives complain about lack of coverage while getting coverage.

What a weak attempt at a deflection.

This thread is about how Obama has managed to muzzle a witness by not giving their lawyer the security clearance, a clearance that they have had before, thus preventing them from helping the witness prepare.
 
Looks more and more like Benghazi was a PR stunt staged by obozo to win votes in the upcoming election. Then it got outta hand as locals jumped into what they thought was a real event.
 
LiveHearing on Benghazi attack, aftermath



12:14 PMSkeptical mother of slain diplomat Sean Smith in attendance

12:13 PMConservatives complain about lack of news coverage

12:07 PMNordstrom has testified on Benghazi before

This was on the Washpo front page. Irony, Conservatives complain about lack of coverage while getting coverage.

What a weak attempt at a deflection.

This thread is about how Obama has managed to muzzle a witness by not giving their lawyer the security clearance, a clearance that they have had before, thus preventing them from helping the witness prepare.

Actually back to the OP, what this thread is about if we read your first sentence...It's about the Daily Caller speculating that something MAY happen. So no, it's not about Obama DOING anything at this point...but don't let that stop you
 
This was on the Washpo front page. Irony, Conservatives complain about lack of coverage while getting coverage.

What a weak attempt at a deflection.

This thread is about how Obama has managed to muzzle a witness by not giving their lawyer the security clearance, a clearance that they have had before, thus preventing them from helping the witness prepare.

Actually back to the OP, what this thread is about if we read your first sentence...It's about the Daily Caller speculating that something MAY happen. So no, it's not about Obama DOING anything at this point...but don't let that stop you

Since I am the OP, this thread is about what I say it is about. And that is how Obama has muzzled a witness, preventing them from testifying because they refused to give their lawyer the proper security clearances. Clearances that the lawyer has held before.
 
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What a weak attempt at a deflection.

This thread is about how Obama has managed to muzzle a witness by not giving their lawyer the security clearance, a clearance that they have had before, thus preventing them from helping the witness prepare.

Actually back to the OP, what this thread is about if we read your first sentence...It's about the Daily Caller speculating that something MAY happen. So no, it's not about Obama DOING anything at this point...but don't let that stop you

Since I am the OP, this thread is about what I say it is about. And that is how Obama has muzzled a witness, preventing them from testifying because they refused to give their lawyer the proper security clearances. Clearances that the lawyer has held before.

You being the OP doesn't mean you are in control of reality. And the reality is that the Daily caller is speculating about how something can turn into something else. Can doesn't mean Has. No matter how long you hold your breath
 
Looks more and more like Benghazi was a PR stunt staged by obozo to win votes in the upcoming election. Then it got outta hand as locals jumped into what they thought was a real event.

Tinfoil hats are on isle 9. Don't trip over rdean on your there

Nobody cares what you say - you're the board laughingstock. How's your plan going to legalize drunk driving? HAHAHA
 
Looks more and more like Benghazi was a PR stunt staged by obozo to win votes in the upcoming election. Then it got outta hand as locals jumped into what they thought was a real event.

Tinfoil hats are on isle 9. Don't trip over rdean on your there

Nobody cares what you say - you're the board laughingstock. How's your plan going to legalize drunk driving? HAHAHA
Sadly for you common sense is not sold with the hats.
 
What a weak attempt at a deflection.

This thread is about how Obama has managed to muzzle a witness by not giving their lawyer the security clearance, a clearance that they have had before, thus preventing them from helping the witness prepare.

Actually back to the OP, what this thread is about if we read your first sentence...It's about the Daily Caller speculating that something MAY happen. So no, it's not about Obama DOING anything at this point...but don't let that stop you

Since I am the OP, this thread is about what I say it is about. And that is how Obama has muzzled a witness, preventing them from testifying because they refused to give their lawyer the proper security clearances. Clearances that the lawyer has held before.

It seems to me just to be a story designed to prepare for the the charge that "the fix is in" when things don't go the way some want. All the witness has to do is answer the questions truthfully. Why would the lawyer need top secret clearance to advise them on that score?
 
LiveHearing on Benghazi attack, aftermath



12:14 PMSkeptical mother of slain diplomat Sean Smith in attendance

12:13 PMConservatives complain about lack of news coverage

12:07 PMNordstrom has testified on Benghazi before

This was on the Washpo front page. Irony, Conservatives complain about lack of coverage while getting coverage.

Wow. That's GREAT coverage!!!!!
 
This is a really sneaky, dirty, rotten way of preventing a witness from testifying before Congress.

Refuse to give their lawyer the security clearance they need to help the witness prepare.

Fourth Benghazi witness gagged by red tape | The Daily Caller

Obama administration officials are finally letting the attorney for a Benghazi whistle-blower get a security clearance — but the clearance is at such a low level that it will probably slow the congressional probe of how the administration handled last year’s terrorist attack on the embassy in Benghazi, Libya.

Victoria Toensing represents an unnamed government official who can help explain the reaction of top government officials to the jihadi attack on the U.S diplomatic site in Benghazi and killed four Americans last Sept. 11.

The official may also be able to explain if officials rewrote intelligence reports and took other actions to minimize media coverage of the administration’s errors and the perceived role of Al Qaeda jihadis.


At least three officials will testify today at a House hearing about the scandal, and are expected to say top officials at the Department of State took actions to minimize political damage to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. In the days after the attack, officials claimed the attack had resulted from a spontaneous demonstration against an anti-Muslim film. That story was quickly refuted, although the filmmaker was arrested on a probation violation and remains in prison.

Toensing’s client will not be able to testify at public or closed-door hearings because he or she has not been able to prepare classified testimony with the aid of a lawyer, Toensing told The Daily Caller.

Toensing, who previously held top-level security clearances while working as a Deputy Attorney General at the Justice Department’s anti-terrorism unit, has asked government officials to update her past clearances to let her work with her client. But the officials initially refused to provide her with the needed forms, she said.

Officials have now provided a 42-page security clearance form, which Toensing filled out and returned, she told TheDC. But the form is only for a basic security clearance, not a “top secret” clearance, she said.

That’s “not sufficient,” she said.


Toensing said she and her client have talked extensively about unclassified events. But they can’t talk freely about classified event or actions, even in a private conversation.

Toensing said she’s now pushing officials to get the higher clearance, she said, to ensure that her client is prepared to explain fully what happened to legislators during top-secret hearings.

What I don't get is why the lawyers were refused then this "secret" hearing is held on live TV?

I must be missing something
 
Looks more and more like Benghazi was a PR stunt staged by obozo to win votes in the upcoming election. Then it got outta hand as locals jumped into what they thought was a real event.

FYI.

It's been proven it was a terror attack and had nothing to do with a demonstration. AQ affiliates are believed to be responsible.

Obama's administration lied about the video causing the attack and they are seriously busted.
 
Actually back to the OP, what this thread is about if we read your first sentence...It's about the Daily Caller speculating that something MAY happen. So no, it's not about Obama DOING anything at this point...but don't let that stop you

Since I am the OP, this thread is about what I say it is about. And that is how Obama has muzzled a witness, preventing them from testifying because they refused to give their lawyer the proper security clearances. Clearances that the lawyer has held before.

You being the OP doesn't mean you are in control of reality. And the reality is that the Daily caller is speculating about how something can turn into something else. Can doesn't mean Has. No matter how long you hold your breath

ROFLMAO..

You are really trying to make this thread jump the tracks by making this about me or the Caller and not what it is about.. How Obama has managed to muzzle a witness by refusing to give their lawyer the security clearance they need to help the witness.
 
Since I am the OP, this thread is about what I say it is about. And that is how Obama has muzzled a witness, preventing them from testifying because they refused to give their lawyer the proper security clearances. Clearances that the lawyer has held before.

You being the OP doesn't mean you are in control of reality. And the reality is that the Daily caller is speculating about how something can turn into something else. Can doesn't mean Has. No matter how long you hold your breath

ROFLMAO..

You are really trying to make this thread jump the tracks by making this about me or the Caller and not what it is about.. How Obama has managed to muzzle a witness by refusing to give their lawyer the security clearance they need to help the witness.

What does the lawyer need a security clearance for? What would keep the witness from telling their lawyer anything they felt was important? This sounds like a made-up issue designed as a fallback when the inquiry doesn't give them everything they want.
 
Actually back to the OP, what this thread is about if we read your first sentence...It's about the Daily Caller speculating that something MAY happen. So no, it's not about Obama DOING anything at this point...but don't let that stop you

Since I am the OP, this thread is about what I say it is about. And that is how Obama has muzzled a witness, preventing them from testifying because they refused to give their lawyer the proper security clearances. Clearances that the lawyer has held before.

It seems to me just to be a story designed to prepare for the the charge that "the fix is in" when things don't go the way some want. All the witness has to do is answer the questions truthfully. Why would the lawyer need top secret clearance to advise them on that score?

It is evident that you have never been called to testify when classified material is involved.

I have.

A lawyer is needed to advise the witness which questions they can legally answer and how to answer them without revealing classified material. It is a legal tightrope that would ruin your life if you fell off.
 

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