Obama get very warm welcome to the house

[WillowTree]

If the Levees hadn't broke during the Hurricane, we were lucky the terrorists never hit it.

Actually, we were unlucky...because if the terrorists had done it, we could have invaded yet another country and kicked some ass.

Instead, we were only left soaking wet and kneeling with torn soiled clothes, looking up to the heavens, and with both fists balled tightly and raised upwards, yelling "WHY?!?!?"

was that before or after we stole all the cadillacs and tv sets we could get our hands on?

 

[Modbert]

Are you implying that the hurricane was created by al Qaeda?

It's going down like this, I'll put it in quotes specifically:

Of course not, obviously they were created by Obama (who according to Willow is the Messiah). Obama was obviously using this to increase his popularity somehow so four years later, he and ACORN could steal the election. Then, after he's elected, he will invoke his Atheist/Communist/Muslim policies on us all.

First he'll make us take crap health insurance because the current system is GREAT! Then he'll indoctrinate our children with speeches to work hard of all things! Then he'll recommend they say that dirty pledge, written by a Socialist of all things! Next he'll take away our guns, so our revolution will have to be done with swords or knives under three inches!

After which, he'll create a state religion with himself as the official Messiah and we will all worship six times a day, six days a week, and for six hours. (666 obviously)

Then come 2012, once he is fairly "reelected" he shall reveal himself to be the AntiChrist, damning us all to a eternity of hell.

Yup, that's exactly how it will happen.

The sad thing about that joke piece above is some people actually believe those things.

 

[xotoxi]

I remember when President Bush extended his hand to Webb. and he snubbed him.. in public.

Was it this one?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0iIOqPGak]YouTube - The McCain-Obama Post-Debate "Handshake"[/ame]

 

[WillowTree]

does anybody remember the day when pelosi call us nazis? I do


see any outrage from gudra? I didn't

Is gudra supposed to be me? If so, please quote what Pelosi said and when, because I don't know anything about her calling anyone Nazis. However, I loathe Pelosi in general and have no doubt she's said all sorts of classless things.

Meanwhile, you're proud to be a partisan hack; I think partisan hacks are lame and pointless, so I really see nothing positive coming from our conversing.

I am a partisan hack and proud of it. I've learned a great deal about partisan hackery over the last nine years.. and the Palin family children debacle was so enriching wasn't it?

 

[Gudrid]

I actually know someone who really thinks he's the antichrist.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

If the Levees hadn't broke during the Hurricane, we were lucky the terrorists never hit it.

Actually, we were unlucky...because if the terrorists had done it, we could have invaded yet another country and kicked some ass.

Instead, we were only left soaking wet and kneeling with torn soiled clothes, looking up to the heavens, and with both fists balled tightly and raised upwards, yelling "WHY?!?!?"

was that before or after we stole all the cadillacs and tv sets we could get our hands on?

Why ? because you were to stupid and lazy to get out of town.

 

[Modbert]

was that before or after we stole all the cadillacs and tv sets we could get our hands on?

http://www.boingboing.net/2005/08/30/black-people-loot-wh.html

Well actually according to the AP, it's only stealing when black people do it. When white people do it, it's "finding".

 

[WillowTree]

I remember when President Bush extended his hand to Webb. and he snubbed him.. in public.

Was it this one?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0iIOqPGak]YouTube - The McCain-Obama Post-Debate "Handshake"[/ame]

which one is President Bush? Fool.

 

[WillowTree]

Actually, we were unlucky...because if the terrorists had done it, we could have invaded yet another country and kicked some ass.

Instead, we were only left soaking wet and kneeling with torn soiled clothes, looking up to the heavens, and with both fists balled tightly and raised upwards, yelling "WHY?!?!?"

was that before or after we stole all the cadillacs and tv sets we could get our hands on?

Why ? because you were to stupid and lazy to get out of town.

ray wouldn't let me get on no bus.

 

[WillowTree]

I actually know someone who really thinks he's the antichrist.

i remember the days when they dressed President Bush up to look like a devil,, and a monkey.. go demoncwats..

 

[Modbert]

i remember the days when they dressed President Bush up to look like a devil,, and a monkey.. go demoncwats..

I remember a long long time ago, how that music use to make me smile.

And I knew if I had my chance, I could make those people dance and maybe they'd be happy for awhile.

But february made me shiver
With every paper Id deliver.
Bad news on the doorstep;
I couldnt take one more step.

I cant remember if I cried
When I read about his widowed bride,
But something touched me deep inside
The day the music died.

So bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
And them good old boys were drinkin whiskey and rye
Singin, thisll be the day that I die.
Thisll be the day that I die.

Did you write the book of love,
And do you have faith in God above,
If the Bible tells you so?
Do you believe in rock n roll,
Can music save your mortal soul,
And can you teach me how to dance real slow?

Well, I know that youre in love with him
`cause I saw you dancin in the gym.
You both kicked off your shoes.
Man, I dig those rhythm and blues.

I was a lonely teenage broncin buck
With a pink carnation and a pickup truck,
But I knew I was out of luck
The day the music died.

I started singin,
Bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin whiskey and rye
And singin, thisll be the day that I die.
Thisll be the day that I die.

Now for ten years weve been on our own
And moss grows fat on a rollin stone,
But thats not how it used to be.
When the jester sang for the king and queen,
In a coat he borrowed from james dean
And a voice that came from you and me,

Oh, and while the king was looking down,
The jester stole his thorny crown.
The courtroom was adjourned;
No verdict was returned.
And while lennon read a book of marx,
The quartet practiced in the park,
And we sang dirges in the dark
The day the music died.

We were singing,
Bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin whiskey and rye
And singin, thisll be the day that I die.
Thisll be the day that I die.

Helter skelter in a summer swelter.
The birds flew off with a fallout shelter,
Eight miles high and falling fast.
It landed foul on the grass.
The players tried for a forward pass,
With the jester on the sidelines in a cast.

Now the half-time air was sweet perfume
While the sergeants played a marching tune.
We all got up to dance,
Oh, but we never got the chance!
`cause the players tried to take the field;
The marching band refused to yield.
Do you recall what was revealed
The day the music died?

We started singing,
Bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin whiskey and rye
And singin, thisll be the day that I die.
Thisll be the day that I die.

Oh, and there we were all in one place,
A generation lost in space
With no time left to start again.
So come on: jack be nimble, jack be quick!
Jack flash sat on a candlestick
Cause fire is the devils only friend.

Oh, and as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage.
No angel born in hell
Could break that satans spell.
And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite,
I saw satan laughing with delight
The day the music died

He was singing,
Bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin whiskey and rye
And singin, thisll be the day that I die.
Thisll be the day that I die.

I met a girl who sang the blues
And I asked her for some happy news,
But she just smiled and turned away.
I went down to the sacred store
Where Id heard the music years before,
But the man there said the music wouldnt play.

And in the streets: the children screamed,
The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed.
But not a word was spoken;
The church bells all were broken.
And the three men I admire most:
The father, son, and the holy ghost,
They caught the last train for the coast
The day the music died.

And they were singing,
Bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
And them good old boys were drinkin whiskey and rye
Singin, thisll be the day that I die.
Thisll be the day that I die.

They were singing,
Bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin whiskey and rye
Singin, thisll be the day that I die.

*Thanks for the applause*

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZszDTZKs_g]YouTube - Don McLean - American Pie - Live On Imus In The Morning[/ame]

 

[acts]

The blabber in chief is a light weight. An empty suit reading empty words written by lefty white guys. Are you impressed, if so, you are a dumb ass. The only true words said in that chamber tonight was when the congressman accused him of lying. He has been lying his con man ass off since day one. And what is particularly pathetic is that the lefty media and far left fools suck it in. No taste buds in that crew. Hold their noses and swallow. Heh, heh, heh.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

was that before or after we stole all the cadillacs and tv sets we could get our hands on?

Why ? because you were to stupid and lazy to get out of town.

ray wouldn't let me get on no bus.

 

[Modbert]

I Remember, remember the Fifth of November,
The Gunpowder Treason and Plot,
I know of no reason
Why the Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot..



[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDkYgd7JgFE]YouTube - Remember Remember The 5th of November[/ame]

 

[edthecynic]

Not supporting a public option doesn't make the republicans partisan. his speeches are always good. It's the only thing he's good at.
if the dems don't want the illegal immigrant argument, stop saying there are 45 million uninsured when a great number of those are illegal aliens.

Protip: The number of uninsured without illegal aliens is still 36 million. Still a very high amount.

Given that's the case, you agree the dems should either stop fudging the numbers, agree they are going to cover illegal aliens, or stop the faux rage that we saw this evening?

Now wait a minute there Slick!

You CON$ claim the CBO is nonpartisan when they predict the debt that would result from the health care reform bill over the next ten years and the same CBO says there are now 45 million without insurance increasing to 54 million by 2019 if nothing is done. Those are the numbers the debt is based on that you CON$ are using when you attack Obama. So you are stuck with 45 to 54 million if you want to use the CBO debt numbers.

Introduction and Background
The Uninsured Population


About 45 million people, or about 15 percent of the total U.S. population, will be uninsured at any given point in 2009, by CBO’s most recent estimates. Because the elderly have near-universal coverage from Medicare, many analyses of the uninsured focus on the nonelderly population, about 17 percent of which is expected to lack coverage in 2009. Those estimates for 2009 do not reflect the recent deterioration in economic conditions, which could result in a larger uninsured population.
In many cases, people’s insurance status varies over the course of a year. For example, CBO’s analysis of survey data showed that between 57 million and 59 million people—or roughly one-fourth of the nonelderly n population—were uninsured at some point during 1998. The average number of people who were uninsured at a give point in 1998 was smaller—between 39 million and 44 million, of which 21 million to 31 million were uninsured for all of that year.19 CBO also found that for those who became uninsured at some point between July 1996 and June 1997, nearly half had spells of uninsurance lasting four months or less and about one in six had spells lasting two years or more.
According to CBO’s projections, the average number of people who are uninsured at any one time will rise to about 54 million, or about 19 percent of the nonelderly population, by 2019. The number of uninsured individuals is expected to increase because health insurance premiums are likely to rise considerably faster than income, which will make insurance more difficult to afford.


Characteristics of the Uninsured.



The purchase of health insurance in the United States is voluntary, so the main reason that people are uninsured is that they are unwilling or unable to purchase coverage. Several characteristics are associated with insurance status—including income, age, being offered insurance at work, or being eligible for public coverage—but whether they are a causal factor or are merely correlated with coverage rates is not always clear.
Because the costs of health insurance can represent a substantial share of income for lower-income individuals and families who are not eligible for subsidized public coverage, it is not surprising that coverage patterns are strongly correlated with income. In particular, as income rises, the share of nonelderly people who are uninsured or have public coverage declines and the share with private coverage rises (see Figure 1-1). In 2009, the highest rates of uninsurance—about 30 percent—will be found among people whose family income is below 200 percent of the federal poverty level. For people in that group that have insurance, those with family income below the poverty line will be much more likely to have public coverage, whereas those with income above the poverty line will be more likely to have private insurance. Only about 12 percent of people below the poverty line will have private coverage; that rate rises to 40 percent for those between 100 percent and 200 percent of the poverty level. For people whose income is between 200 percent and 400 percent of the poverty level, by contrast, 74 percent have private coverage and 16 percent are uninsured. For people with income above 400 percent of the poverty level, 90 percent have private coverage and 4 percent are uninsured.

 

[GWV5903]

The first step to Health Care Reform starts with Tort Reform, anything else is pure BS....

That's a state level issue, and the states that have done it have gotten screwed. Most of them saw malpractice rates skyrocket anyway, the exception being Texas. There, they lowered malpractice rates, but health insurance rates skyrocketed, completely outpacing the majority of the nation. Tort reform is a myth in terms of the big picture. Combine it with the fines for being uninsured, and all you've got is what we always seem to get - a nice fat package for the insurance companies.


On a side note, I think the concept of failing to provide a public option for millions of Americans who need it based on some fear that somewhere illegal aliens will sneak onto the plan is nonsensical. Should we fail to provide police protection and pubic schools, because somewhere an illegal immigrant may benefit?

Texas did not get screwed, actually it has benefited greatly....you need to verify your info, health care cost in Texas are low in comparison to New York, California and Illinois, and yes it is a state level issue, at the same time you want National Health Care Reform and the Feds will tell the states too bad if they pass the current legislation, you can't have it both ways......

If the BS Bill he tried to sell again tonight ever survives, it will be institutions like the Texas Medical Center leading the way for more physicians.....The largest Medical Center and teaching facility in the world.....

Funny thing is the state of Massachusetts has the highest number of doctors per capita, but they also share this with the distinction of paying the highest Malpractice rates in the country, it couldn't be because they required Health Care coverage for every citizen could it???
Bay State health insurance premiums highest in country - The Boston Globe

The only idiot that pretends legal cost do not effect what we pay for anything is either a lawyer or a liberal, which one are you?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Where are the Dr's going to come from to give care to 40 million new insured people?

 

[manu1959]

Where are the Dr's going to come from to give care to 40 million new insured people?

40 million.....?.......next they will force dr's to take more patients.....then we all get to wait in line....

 

[Modbert]

Where are the Dr's going to come from to give care to 40 million new insured people?

I don't think you realize that are a great deal of those people already get care from those doctors, they just end up not being able to afford it. There's a good reason why Health Care costs are in the top 5 reasons why people declare bankruptcy yearly. Stop trying to use scare tactics.

Also, this would definitely give an increase in jobs. You know, the thing Republicans are always bitching that it's all Obama fault that we're losing?

 

[elvis]

Where are the Dr's going to come from to give care to 40 million new insured people?

40 million.....?.......next they will force dr's to take more patients.....then we all get to wait in line....

sounds like Canada.