Obama caught on tape admitting he LOVES Communism

[Chris]

In the last 30 years 80% of the increase in after tax income has gone to the top 10%.

The class war is over. The rich won.

 

[Chris]

There was, in fact, only one time that capital gains were taxed at the same rates that were paid by people who earned their money by working. That was during the years 1988 to 1990, as a result of the Tax Reform Act of 1986 — a law championed by President Ronald Reagan.

" We're going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory some of those loophole were understandable, but in practice, they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing." ~ Ronald Reagan

 

[Lakhota]

Sounds like ole Rotsmeller has a hearing/reading comprehension problem. Most NaziCons do...

 

[oreo]

Obama caught on tape (again) professing redistributive love

Mitt Romney was “caught” on tape this week saying he believes in personal responsibility. While the media attempted to turn that into a scandal, it didn’t take long for another Obama tape to surface. This one features the President explaining why he totally loves redistribution of wealth

Is Barack Obama destroying America in an attempt to create fairness? – Glenn Beck

And everyone should have seen this in 2008 when Obama met Joe the Plumber. It's called Socialism--aka "redistribution."

The 5 best sentences.

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Over the last 4 years Obama has attacked or insulted business in this country. He's either threatening them with higher taxes and when he's not doing that--he states: "If you own a business--you didn't build that--somebody else made that happen." This is Barry off of the teleprompter telling you what he really thinks.

Here is a DEMOCRAT CEO telling you what he thinks of Barack Obama.

"I'm saying it bluntly, that this administration is the greatest wet blanket to business, progress and job creation in my lifetime. A lot of people don't want to say that. They'll say, 'Oh God, don't be attacking Obama.' Well, this is Obama's deal, and it's Obama that's responsible for this fear in America."

"The guy [Obama] keeps making speeches about redistribution, and maybe 'we ought to do something to businesses that don't invest or hold too much money.' We haven't heard that kind of talk except from pure socialists."

"Business is being hammered. The business community in this country is frightened to death of the weird political philosophy of the president of the United States. Until he's gone, everybody's going to be sitting on their thumbs."

Democrat CEO--Steve Wynn
Steve Wynn's Anti-Obama Rant - Is He Right? - CBS News

"Barack Obama is the greatest HOAX ever perpetrated on the American population"--Clint Eastwood

 

[Chris]

 

[FJO]

What you fail to understand is that fruition of an ideal and the ideal itseflf are not the same. I can be a proponent of communism and live in a capitalist window dressed corporatism. I can push this idea of communism. That doesn't mean it immediately comes to fruition because I believe in the principles of communism while living in a corporatist society.

Dullard.

Ye, that is obvious. Of course a communist can live in a capitalist society.

But what is also is that the ideology which Obama has promoted for the past 4 years has nothing at all in common with communism.

Has he closed TV stations, arrested journalists and muzzled the media?

Has he nationalised industries wholesale, de-listed corporations from Wall Street or put his cronies on the boards of hostile companies?

Has he taken the dollar off the floating exchange rate mechanism?

Has he started bugging students and arresting those who ask questions?

No, he has not.

Nor would he ever support any of those actions.

In reply to the first line in your post:

You forgot to mention that a capitalist could not live in a Communist country. In a Communist country, (such as the one I once lived), any person who has more than another is declared rich, capitalist and an enemy of the people. A farmer who has 10 acres of land is a "kulak", who gets dragged away to concentration camp. A small store owner, likewise. A worker who is reluctant to voluntarily "loan" part of his meager pay to the government, to complete a "Five Year Plan" is also the future resident of a jail or a concentration camp. I have seen it and the reason I can't say that I experienced it, is that I managed to escape from there when I was seventeen year old.

In reply to the rest of your post:

NOT YET! Give a second term and he will.

 

[Saigon]

FJO -

Yes, you make a fair point - although I think what TakeAParanoidStep really meant was that Obama is SECRETLY a communist.

Many a capitalist lives secretly in communist countries.

Come to thnk of it, Viet Nam is communist and may be the most capitalist place on the planet!

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Well, Rotten, looks like things are really looking down for you when you people have to post this kind of shit.

Only an idiot liberal Dumbocrat would consider indisputable evidence (ie FACTS) to be "shit". You guys just can't accept reality, can you? The man is CAUGHT on tape. Game. Set. Match.

Hey, dummy...

Consider this. Part of your taxes are redistributed to corn growers and military contractors. Does this bother you?

That does bother me. But at least we get something in return from them.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

FJO -

Yes, you make a fair point - although I think what TakeAParanoidStep really meant was that Obama is SECRETLY a communist.

Many a capitalist lives secretly in communist countries.

Come to thnk of it, Viet Nam is communist and may be the most capitalist place on the planet!

No, it isn't what i meant. He openly advocates communist ideals. It's really that simple.

But keep making the personal attacks because you lack education, debate skill and most of all, any understanding of what communism means.

many capitalists live secretly in communist countries? The state decides who can do what. So that's about the stupidest thing you've said yet. Capitalism requires a free market by definition. There is no free market, the state decides what can, and can not be done. I would say almost every single person on earth is a capitalist. Whether they know it or not. Most people want the ability to own the means of production, conduct voluntary exhcange and raise their standard of living in one fashion or another.

Dullard.

 

[Saigon]

He openly advocates communist ideals. It's really that simple.

Um...no...it isn't.

This is paranoid fantasy from a perso who has absolutely no idea what communism means.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

OK, dullard. You make no point to prove that I'm wrong. I went through this already on what the communist ideals are, and how Obama supports them. You just don't have a fucking clue, so instead of PROVING me wrong by displaying information that supports your assertion that "Um, no. Derp derp dont know what it means." you just attempt to make it as though i'm paranoid.

it's fine. But you look like a retard fo rdoing so. Which is why I dub thee dullard.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Communist Manifesto Chapter 2.

Redistribution of wealth.

 

[g5000]

Ok G5000 - I'll bite. What needs to be done for the GOP to defeat Obama?

First, jackholes like yourself need to stop copying and pasting partisan propaganda. That would be a start.

Next, before speaking about a piece of legislation and just parroting what you heard someone else say, read the legislation. I know, what a novel idea!

Also, stop making shit up. Stop lying.

Most importantly, learn to think critically. Be able to explain your position. I would suggest starting out by studying all the logical fallacies which people use in debate and learning to recognize them.

Finally, instead of calling the opposition names, explain where they are wrong, and why they are wrong.

Build your perfect candidate from the ground up. Be very clear on policy please (with as much facts and as little of your opinions as possible). I'm all ears. Ready? Go!

If you want my ideas on any specific policies, I provide them regularly in such topics. I know my long posts make the eyes of people like you glaze over and fall into unconsciousness, but with practice you too can learn to have an attention span longer than a bumper sticker!

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In other words - you've got NOTHING. You're just talking out of your ass again. You would have better served to just ignore the question, because now you look like a serious fool (then again, you probably realized you were already at rock bottom in terms of respect on this board and you had nothing to lose posting really useless nonsense).

First, I never lie. NEVER. I provide links, data, charts, etc. for everything I say. More importantly, when those things aren't added, I give specific names and dates so that the information can be independently verified by anyone willing to do a few quick searches.

Second, I post facts. It's just that you don't like the facts, so you falsely refer to them as "partisan propaganda". That is your problem, not mine.

Third, the fact that you're telling me how to think when you don't think at all is just crazy. I'm light years ahead of you in terms of thinking (that's why I destroy you and all of the over dumbocrats on this board when debating).

Fourth, because - unlike you dumbocrats - I have a job, I don't have time to read the 2,600+ unconstitutional bills by dumbocrats like Nancy Pelosi in their entirety. I have to rely on people who do that for living. Over the years, I've challenged what Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck have told me, and so far they have been 100% accurate. Not once have they ever talked about something in a bill that I later found to not be true. And yes, I do check that often since the provide the specific section - makes it easy to do. If you ever get a job, you'll understand that there are not enough time in the day to read every bill when the dumbocrats insist they exceed 2,500 pages so they can pack it full of stuff to line their pockets and buy allegiance from voters.

Finally, I do explain why the dumbocrats are wrong. And they respond with utter nonsense, like police and fire are examples of why we are wrong about unconstitutional entitlements . The fact is, most of them (like you), just come on here looking for a fight and have no desire to have a real conversation. Since I'm a free market guy, I just provide them with what they want....

Let's see. What do we have so far. So far we have you caught in an outright lie, claiming you did not know someone had already posted about the 1998 Obama clip.

So there's one FACT.

Next, just before this post of yours, I provided some actual policy solutions, citing actual bills and a section which usurped states rights. It was very interesting how selective people who scream about the 10th amendment are when it was the GOP that usurped states rights in the CFMA. The end result was a massive transfer of wealth up the food chain to a select few in the financial services industry.

In addition to the solutions I offered, I have more.

1. OTC derivatives need to be traded on public exchanges. This is one thing Dodd-Frank is actually trying to achieve. However, the large New York broker-dealers are working very hard to redefine what an end user is so they can completely compromise the process. The visitor logs at the CFPB are jammed with the names of the lobbyists.

2. Ban naked credit default swaps. This was the chief reason section 117 was placed into the CFMA. Outright gambling. If everyone was allowed to bet on your house burning down, how long do you think your house would remain standing? And if the contractor who built your house was also allowed to bet on your house burning down, how well constructed do you think your house would be?

This is why we had a subprime crisis. But some jackholes invented the CRA meme at the very beginning of the meltdown because they were people who had no clue about derivatives or the existence of the global derivatives bubble, even though they had been repeatedly warned about it for over a decade.

Also, while we are at it, I read a lot of the proposed amendments to Dodd-Frank during the entire process, and believe me when I tell you that a D or an R after someone's name was no indication of which side of fucking the common man over they would come down on.

I have plenty more thoughts and ideas about the financial services industry I am more than happy to share any time, as well as many more issues facing our country today.

If you need some more information and sound ideas about any more serious subjects, just let me know. I can give you hard data and real facts.

And if your time is so short and so precious, what the ever loving fuck are you doing wasting it listening to shitheads like Glenn Beck for!?!?!

He's a Manchurian candidate destroying the GOP from within.

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[Saigon]

OK, dullard. You make no point to prove that I'm wrong. I went through this already on what the communist ideals are, and how Obama supports them. You just don't have a fucking clue, so instead of PROVING me wrong by displaying information that supports your assertion that "Um, no. Derp derp dont know what it means." you just attempt to make it as though i'm paranoid.

it's fine. But you look like a retard fo rdoing so. Which is why I dub thee dullard.

But you are paranoid.

I can pot definitions of communism for you and obviously anyone can give you a dozen reasons why Obama does not match those descriptions, but fact aren't goiing to make a jot of different to you.

 

[Unkotare]

I can pot[sic] definitions of communism for you and obviously anyone can give you a dozen reasons why Obama does not match those descriptions, but fact aren't goiing to make a jot of different[sic] to you.

You can "pot" definitions? What a great potter you are! Elite people like you really make a "different" in the world.

 

[Unkotare]

He openly advocates communist ideals. It's really that simple.

Um...no...it isn't.

This is paranoid fantasy from a perso[sic] who has absolutely no idea what communism means.

But you're the kind of "perso" who knows what it means, right? You are an elite "perso."

 

[TakeAStepBack]

OK, dullard. You make no point to prove that I'm wrong. I went through this already on what the communist ideals are, and how Obama supports them. You just don't have a fucking clue, so instead of PROVING me wrong by displaying information that supports your assertion that "Um, no. Derp derp dont know what it means." you just attempt to make it as though i'm paranoid.

it's fine. But you look like a retard fo rdoing so. Which is why I dub thee dullard.

But you are paranoid.

I can pot definitions of communism for you and obviously anyone can give you a dozen reasons why Obama does not match those descriptions, but fact aren't goiing to make a jot of different to you.

In other words "I can not defend the fact Obama believes in redistribution of wealth, which is a deep rooted Marxist-Leninist ideal spelled out clearly in the communist Manifesto Chapter 2. Instead, i will call you paranoid and then procede to drool all over the thread again in an attempt to seem intelligent."

Thanks for nothing again, Dullard.

 

[Wry Catcher]

OK, dullard. You make no point to prove that I'm wrong. I went through this already on what the communist ideals are, and how Obama supports them. You just don't have a fucking clue, so instead of PROVING me wrong by displaying information that supports your assertion that "Um, no. Derp derp dont know what it means." you just attempt to make it as though i'm paranoid.

it's fine. But you look like a retard fo rdoing so. Which is why I dub thee dullard.

But you are paranoid.

I can pot definitions of communism for you and obviously anyone can give you a dozen reasons why Obama does not match those descriptions, but fact aren't goiing to make a jot of different to you.

In other words "I can not defend the fact Obama believes in redistribution of wealth, which is a deep rooted Marxist-Leninist ideal spelled out clearly in the communist Manifesto Chapter 2. Instead, i will call you paranoid and then procede to drool all over the thread again in an attempt to seem intelligent."

Thanks for nothing again, Dullard.

Your problem is you watch the lips and not the feet of pols. It's not what Obama or Romney say that matters, it's what they do. Gov. Romney is a plutocrat, President Obama is a Christian if we are to look at the consequences of their actions and choose to label them.