Obama and the 'Fiscal Cliff'

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    1. Re-examine the welfare solution for poverty. The very first step is to reinstitute the real definition of “poverty.” It is “no home-no heat- no food.” That’s poverty.

    2. The Progressives have corrupted the meaning for several reasons, not the least of which is to maximize the vote from recipients of various bogus programs…such as food stamps.




    Let’s take a look at three groups included in the poverty statistics.

    3. The working poor are aiding by the Earned Income Tax Credits, of Republican provenance.

    4. There is the bogus category created by the progressives, the ‘having-not-quite-as-much’ poor….many of whom have more accoutrements than the folks supporting them.

    a. “When you walk into the bathroom of the average American home you are a witness to history. It has taken centuries for the toilet and tub to end up in the same room. Those two conveniences, plus shower, washbowl, and running water are a grander collection of comfort and ease than even kings knew before the 20th century.” (Readers Digest) Could any competent person claim that pre-twentieth-century kings be called impoverished? Of course not. So, an American today matches the “comfort and ease” that kings once wished for! That includes every American who, happily falls outside of the “no home-no heat- no food” definition.

    b. Since 89% of the ‘poor’ own a microwave, they have a home. Poor Politics - Robert Rector - National Review Online

    5. And the ‘helpless poor.’ Not any amount of monetary aid given will help these poor souls. Case in point…Jeffrey Hillman, the homeless man given new shoes by NYPD Officer Larry DePrimo. Hillman is neither homeless, nor is he scamming the system. “According to the Department of Homeless Services, Hillman has an apartment, paid for through a combination of Section 8 vouchers, Social Security disability and veterans benefits. The housing comes with a wide array of services, including drug, alcohol and mental health treatment.
    Boots were only part of it* - NY Daily News




    7. One should ask why the Progressives, e.g., Obama has made it effort to increase those taking from the government.

    a "….the dramatically larger increase also suggests that part
    of the program’s growth is due to conscious
    policy choices by this administration
    to ease
    eligibility rules and expand caseloads….income limits for eligibility have
    risen twice as fast as inflation since 2007
    and are now roughly 10 percent higher than
    they were when Obama took office." Casey Mulligan, “The Sharp Increase in the Food Stamps Program,” Economix,
    Casey B. Mulligan: The Sharp Increase in the Food Stamps Program - NYTimes.com
    Study: More Than Half a Trillion Dollars Spent on Welfare But Poverty Levels Unaffected | CNS News



    Absorb the information above? Good....here's the math that
    goes with it...and would end the fiscal crisis:

    8. “Yet this year the federal
    government will spend more than $668 billion on at
    least 126 different programs to fight poverty.

    And that does not even begin to count welfare
    spending by state and local governments, which
    adds $284 billion
    to that figure.

    In total, the
    United States spends nearly $1 trillion every
    year to fight poverty.
    That amounts to $20,610
    for every poor person in America, or $61,830 per
    poor family of three.
    Scribd


    So....90% of the spending is not spent on "poverty."
    The fiscal problem is the Progressive ideology.
     
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    No doubt you believe.....I almost said 'think,' but that wouldn't apply to you, now, would it....that you are attempting to burnish your well-established anti-Republican creds, true, Jakal?


    Believe me....such is hardly necessary.


    You use every opportunity to do so....infinitely redundant.


    And, transparent, as the OP deals specifically with the fraudulent use of welfare programs by your fav, the progressive/liberal/Democrats.



    Clearly you can find nothing in the OP to disagree with.
    Wise, very wise.
     
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    :lol: PC is in silly mode.

    As I have been telling everyone for a long time that after the election Boehner and the other conservative leaders were going to tromp on the reactionary extremists who got in their way in governing.

    These two Congressman will only be two names on a list that went up against the establishment and were crushed.

    There will be no credence given to Mises clones and cretins.

    The moves to reach out to Hispanics and to increase exceptions for abortions to include rape and incest are only some of the new moves by the GOP leadership to divorce itself from the causes of their defeat.
     
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    The only way your rant could be funnier would be if it came with sound effects!


    I knew you couldn't handle the OP.


    But, you're welcome for giving you a forum to spew your usual anti-Republican rant.
    Just curious, how many times a day do you ask yourself “Why am I so lonely?”
     
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    Progressives created the fiscal crisis by ignoring the authority of the United States Constitution.....

    ....the legitimate venues for government spending are limited to:

    The enumerated powers:

    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
    To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
    To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
    To establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
    To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
    To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
    To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;
    To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
    To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
    To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;
    To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
    To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
    To provide and maintain a Navy;
    To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
    To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
    To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And
    To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
     
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    PC is deflecting with the silliness that she is an expert on matters constitutional, when in fact struggling with diction and syntax takes up her working hours.
     
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    I am hurt to the very quick by your remarks…so much so that I begin to think that perhaps I should be nicer to those with whom I vehemently disagree….nah, maybe not.


    If you would work on polishing your skills, and add just ten more points on your I.Q., you might just be in the running for a job as a seeing-eye person for a blind dog.

    No, really!
     
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    Hey....I've got a better idea!


    For once in your jejune existence, throw off those mental shackles and try to think for yourself.


    Mine is the correct definition...and no matter what they told you in government school, government is not always correct.

    …work hard to free up the congealed gears of your mind…try to deal with the facts in the OP.
    Could be the first time you've actually seen the truth.
     
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