Now that the good guys are in charge, is it time to revisit the 14th amendment?

New wide-ranging analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies‘ Steven Camarotta reveals that there are an estimated 28,000 births to illegal aliens every year in the Los Angeles metro area, exceeding the total number of U.S. births in 14 states and the District of Columbia.

The children of illegal aliens are commonly known as “anchor babies,” as they anchor their illegal alien and noncitizen parents in the U.S. and eventually are allowed to bring an unlimited number of foreign relatives to the country through the process known as “chain migration.”

More Anchor Baby Births in Los Angeles than Total U.S. Births in 14 States

If you want to stop the flies from buzzing around you, close the pancake syrup container if you're going to sit outside.

For years the left has been telling us we don't need a wall, just a heavy fine or prison time for employers who hire illegals. Well I have to agree with that, but I also think that anchor babies are just as much of a problem. Come to the US, find a way to stay for a few months, and pop out a baby(s) so you have an excuse to have to be here.

Time for that to stop.

Change the constitution. The amendment process works beautifully. It show the 14th amendment was passed in the first place.

But altering the constitution by *executive order*? Yeah, that's thoroughly unconstitutional.
 
So where is your evidence of this crime? You can't suspect a crime unless you have evidence to support it.

Agan, you live in fairy land. Trump isn't going anywhere for another six years. Live with it.

Trump won't last out the next two... he's gone in 2020 regardless.

Yet in places like your homie Chicago where guns are very restricted, more shootings there than most places in the US with less restrictions.

Dude, we have no restrictions on guns in Chicago since the Awful McDonald decision... which is when the gun crime doubled.

You're stuck on one case which was ruled in the officers favor by a Grand Jury. You hate it because a good guy won the battle.

Because it's a great example of an awful case. They shot a child with a toy... and got away with it.

Terrorists are not like American prisoners. They are war criminals. In fact most of the ones DumBama let out went back to their terrorist groups to kill more American solders.

If they are war criminals, then they are accorded certain rights under the Geneva Conventions.

And, no, none of those guys "went out and killed Americans". They are still in Qatar.

I was awake enough to realize it was more than Bush and had zero to do with any regulations. If you lower the standards for getting a loan so more minorities can purchase homes, then you are putting those loans at a much higher risk. As I have posted repeatedly, that started under the Clinton administration.

I know that's what they told you on Fox News, but the reality- the deregulation was on banks selling McMansions to Middle Class dipshits who watched House Flipping Show and then they sold those loans as investments... that's what caused the crash. Not sensible laws that were in place since the 1970's to keep banks from being racist.

At home where they belonged. Very few guys wore dresses years ago. If you had mental problems like thinking you were a woman, you only dressed that way at home or with your weirdo friends.

Again, you are probably one of these people who thinks no one was gay until there was a gay rights movement. And the Darkies were happy riding at the back of the bus until some uppity negroes told them not to.

you left out the part where the loans were ARM's and the banks told people, go ahead, take the equity out of your home, we'll re-fi you in five years before the ARM hits....

and then the housing market dropped and there wasn't enough equity in the property so the banks refused to re-fi..... they left all these people with mortgages that increased exorbitantly and these people then couldn't afford to pay their mortgages.

THAT is how people lost their houses because of the sleazy banks....not because, as rightwingnut pond scum like to say, black people couldn't be redlined. (there was nothing that required banks not to apply standard risk factors. they just couldn't redline).

A house (for most people) will be the biggest expense in their life outside of children. It will likely be their largest investment too. The banks put everything in writing, and if you don't understand what is written, any lawyer will be glad to work with you and the banks to make sure you don't get screwed.

If you are going to buy a house for 200K, paying a lawyer $500.00 is very wise money to spend.
 
New wide-ranging analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies‘ Steven Camarotta reveals that there are an estimated 28,000 births to illegal aliens every year in the Los Angeles metro area, exceeding the total number of U.S. births in 14 states and the District of Columbia.

The children of illegal aliens are commonly known as “anchor babies,” as they anchor their illegal alien and noncitizen parents in the U.S. and eventually are allowed to bring an unlimited number of foreign relatives to the country through the process known as “chain migration.”

More Anchor Baby Births in Los Angeles than Total U.S. Births in 14 States

If you want to stop the flies from buzzing around you, close the pancake syrup container if you're going to sit outside.

For years the left has been telling us we don't need a wall, just a heavy fine or prison time for employers who hire illegals. Well I have to agree with that, but I also think that anchor babies are just as much of a problem. Come to the US, find a way to stay for a few months, and pop out a baby(s) so you have an excuse to have to be here.

Time for that to stop.

Change the constitution. The amendment process works beautifully. It show the 14th amendment was passed in the first place.

But altering the constitution by *executive order*? Yeah, that's thoroughly unconstitutional.

Nobody is talking about altering anything.

Did they say abortion was constitutionaly protected, and did we alter the Constitution for abortion?
Did they rule Separation of Church and State by altering the Constitution?
Did they rule gay marriage had to be forced upon states without altering the Constitution?

Why is it we are only allowed to ask the SC to interpret the Constitution on liberal things and not conservative?
 
New wide-ranging analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies‘ Steven Camarotta reveals that there are an estimated 28,000 births to illegal aliens every year in the Los Angeles metro area, exceeding the total number of U.S. births in 14 states and the District of Columbia.

The children of illegal aliens are commonly known as “anchor babies,” as they anchor their illegal alien and noncitizen parents in the U.S. and eventually are allowed to bring an unlimited number of foreign relatives to the country through the process known as “chain migration.”

More Anchor Baby Births in Los Angeles than Total U.S. Births in 14 States

If you want to stop the flies from buzzing around you, close the pancake syrup container if you're going to sit outside.

For years the left has been telling us we don't need a wall, just a heavy fine or prison time for employers who hire illegals. Well I have to agree with that, but I also think that anchor babies are just as much of a problem. Come to the US, find a way to stay for a few months, and pop out a baby(s) so you have an excuse to have to be here.

Time for that to stop.

Change the constitution. The amendment process works beautifully. It show the 14th amendment was passed in the first place.

But altering the constitution by *executive order*? Yeah, that's thoroughly unconstitutional.

Nobody is talking about altering anything.

Did they say abortion was constitutionaly protected, and did we alter the Constitution for abortion?
Did they rule Separation of Church and State by altering the Constitution?
Did they rule gay marriage had to be forced upon states without altering the Constitution?

Why is it we are only allowed to ask the SC to interpret the Constitution on liberal things and not conservative?

Who is 'they' in your scenerio? Because it wasn't the president. And it wasn't executive order.

And Trump is most definitely talking about nixing birth right citizenship through executive order.
 
Dude, we have no restrictions on guns in Chicago since the Awful McDonald decision... which is when the gun crime doubled.

You have more than most places in the US. Better check that out.

Because it's a great example of an awful case. They shot a child with a toy... and got away with it.

Yes, he was licking his giant lolly pop and pulling a yoyo up and down when the big bad police officer shot him.

You people probably even lie to yourselves, don't you?

If they are war criminals, then they are accorded certain rights under the Geneva Conventions.

And, no, none of those guys "went out and killed Americans". They are still in Qatar.

Even Commie Fact disagrees with you. But I understand you don't have the guts to read the truth:

How many released Guantanamo prisoners re-offend?

I know that's what they told you on Fox News, but the reality- the deregulation was on banks selling McMansions to Middle Class dipshits who watched House Flipping Show and then they sold those loans as investments... that's what caused the crash. Not sensible laws that were in place since the 1970's to keep banks from being racist.

Nobody flips mansions. I've posted my sources multiple times. You just don't have what it takes to read them and understand it wasn't entirely GW's fault.

Again, you are probably one of these people who thinks no one was gay until there was a gay rights movement. And the Darkies were happy riding at the back of the bus until some uppity negroes told them not to.

I'm just as old as you are. I know plenty well what was around and what was not years ago.
 
New wide-ranging analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies‘ Steven Camarotta reveals that there are an estimated 28,000 births to illegal aliens every year in the Los Angeles metro area, exceeding the total number of U.S. births in 14 states and the District of Columbia.

The children of illegal aliens are commonly known as “anchor babies,” as they anchor their illegal alien and noncitizen parents in the U.S. and eventually are allowed to bring an unlimited number of foreign relatives to the country through the process known as “chain migration.”

More Anchor Baby Births in Los Angeles than Total U.S. Births in 14 States

If you want to stop the flies from buzzing around you, close the pancake syrup container if you're going to sit outside.

For years the left has been telling us we don't need a wall, just a heavy fine or prison time for employers who hire illegals. Well I have to agree with that, but I also think that anchor babies are just as much of a problem. Come to the US, find a way to stay for a few months, and pop out a baby(s) so you have an excuse to have to be here.

Time for that to stop.

Change the constitution. The amendment process works beautifully. It show the 14th amendment was passed in the first place.

But altering the constitution by *executive order*? Yeah, that's thoroughly unconstitutional.

Nobody is talking about altering anything.

Did they say abortion was constitutionaly protected, and did we alter the Constitution for abortion?
Did they rule Separation of Church and State by altering the Constitution?
Did they rule gay marriage had to be forced upon states without altering the Constitution?

Why is it we are only allowed to ask the SC to interpret the Constitution on liberal things and not conservative?

Who is 'they' in your scenerio? Because it wasn't the president. And it wasn't executive order.

And Trump is most definitely talking about nixing birth right citizenship through executive order.

"They" were the judges when it was challenged.
 
New wide-ranging analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies‘ Steven Camarotta reveals that there are an estimated 28,000 births to illegal aliens every year in the Los Angeles metro area, exceeding the total number of U.S. births in 14 states and the District of Columbia.

The children of illegal aliens are commonly known as “anchor babies,” as they anchor their illegal alien and noncitizen parents in the U.S. and eventually are allowed to bring an unlimited number of foreign relatives to the country through the process known as “chain migration.”

More Anchor Baby Births in Los Angeles than Total U.S. Births in 14 States

If you want to stop the flies from buzzing around you, close the pancake syrup container if you're going to sit outside.

For years the left has been telling us we don't need a wall, just a heavy fine or prison time for employers who hire illegals. Well I have to agree with that, but I also think that anchor babies are just as much of a problem. Come to the US, find a way to stay for a few months, and pop out a baby(s) so you have an excuse to have to be here.

Time for that to stop.

Change the constitution. The amendment process works beautifully. It show the 14th amendment was passed in the first place.

But altering the constitution by *executive order*? Yeah, that's thoroughly unconstitutional.

Nobody is talking about altering anything.

Did they say abortion was constitutionaly protected, and did we alter the Constitution for abortion?
Did they rule Separation of Church and State by altering the Constitution?
Did they rule gay marriage had to be forced upon states without altering the Constitution?

Why is it we are only allowed to ask the SC to interpret the Constitution on liberal things and not conservative?

Who is 'they' in your scenerio? Because it wasn't the president. And it wasn't executive order.

And Trump is most definitely talking about nixing birth right citizenship through executive order.

"They" were the judges when it was challenged.

Then in your scenario, Trump is 'nobody'. As Trump is absolutely talking about altering birthright citizenship via executive order.
 
New wide-ranging analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies‘ Steven Camarotta reveals that there are an estimated 28,000 births to illegal aliens every year in the Los Angeles metro area, exceeding the total number of U.S. births in 14 states and the District of Columbia.

The children of illegal aliens are commonly known as “anchor babies,” as they anchor their illegal alien and noncitizen parents in the U.S. and eventually are allowed to bring an unlimited number of foreign relatives to the country through the process known as “chain migration.”

More Anchor Baby Births in Los Angeles than Total U.S. Births in 14 States

If you want to stop the flies from buzzing around you, close the pancake syrup container if you're going to sit outside.

For years the left has been telling us we don't need a wall, just a heavy fine or prison time for employers who hire illegals. Well I have to agree with that, but I also think that anchor babies are just as much of a problem. Come to the US, find a way to stay for a few months, and pop out a baby(s) so you have an excuse to have to be here.

Time for that to stop.

Change the constitution. The amendment process works beautifully. It show the 14th amendment was passed in the first place.

But altering the constitution by *executive order*? Yeah, that's thoroughly unconstitutional.

Nobody is talking about altering anything.

Did they say abortion was constitutionaly protected, and did we alter the Constitution for abortion?
Did they rule Separation of Church and State by altering the Constitution?
Did they rule gay marriage had to be forced upon states without altering the Constitution?

Why is it we are only allowed to ask the SC to interpret the Constitution on liberal things and not conservative?

Who is 'they' in your scenerio? Because it wasn't the president. And it wasn't executive order.

And Trump is most definitely talking about nixing birth right citizenship through executive order.

"They" were the judges when it was challenged.

Then in your scenario, Trump is 'nobody'. As Trump is absolutely talking about altering birthright citizenship via executive order.

No, Trump believes that the 14th never covered birthright citizenship in the first place. That's why he's writing an order against it. It will be challenged and eventually land at the Supreme Court. It is they what will make the determination whether it is part of the 14th or if Trump was correct that it's not.
 
Change the constitution. The amendment process works beautifully. It show the 14th amendment was passed in the first place.

But altering the constitution by *executive order*? Yeah, that's thoroughly unconstitutional.

Nobody is talking about altering anything.

Did they say abortion was constitutionaly protected, and did we alter the Constitution for abortion?
Did they rule Separation of Church and State by altering the Constitution?
Did they rule gay marriage had to be forced upon states without altering the Constitution?

Why is it we are only allowed to ask the SC to interpret the Constitution on liberal things and not conservative?

Who is 'they' in your scenerio? Because it wasn't the president. And it wasn't executive order.

And Trump is most definitely talking about nixing birth right citizenship through executive order.

"They" were the judges when it was challenged.

Then in your scenario, Trump is 'nobody'. As Trump is absolutely talking about altering birthright citizenship via executive order.

No, Trump believes that the 14th never covered birthright citizenship in the first place.

Trump isn't tasked with the authority to interpret the constitution. His is merely enforcement of the law. And birthright citizenship has no enforcement aspect. As the USC is quite clear that anyone born in the US is a US citizen. There is no prosecutorial discretion when there is no prosecution.

Trump is attempting to take on himself the role of the judiciary. The 'they' in every example you cited. At no point were 'they' the Executive Branch.
 
Nobody is talking about altering anything.

Did they say abortion was constitutionaly protected, and did we alter the Constitution for abortion?
Did they rule Separation of Church and State by altering the Constitution?
Did they rule gay marriage had to be forced upon states without altering the Constitution?

Why is it we are only allowed to ask the SC to interpret the Constitution on liberal things and not conservative?

Who is 'they' in your scenerio? Because it wasn't the president. And it wasn't executive order.

And Trump is most definitely talking about nixing birth right citizenship through executive order.

"They" were the judges when it was challenged.

Then in your scenario, Trump is 'nobody'. As Trump is absolutely talking about altering birthright citizenship via executive order.

No, Trump believes that the 14th never covered birthright citizenship in the first place.

Trump isn't tasked with the authority to interpret the constitution. His is merely enforcement of the law. And birthright citizenship has no enforcement aspect. As the USC is quite clear that anyone born in the US is a US citizen. There is no prosecutorial discretion when there is no prosecution.

Trump is attempting to take on himself the role of the judiciary. The 'they' in every example you cited. At no point were 'they' the Executive Branch.

What difference does it make? Trump can't run to the SC and say "interpret this the right way!" It doesn't work like that.

Trump makes an EO stating that he's putting an end to anchor babies.
The left challenges his EO in court claiming he violated the 14th.
Lower courts hear the arguments of both sides and make their decisions.
It finally ends up at the SC and they will either stop Trump from executing his EO or say it's legitimate.

Since the court never heard the anchor baby case, anchor babies were assumed but not defined. Therefore illegals were always allowed to have them. But that doesn't mean it's what the Constitution or the intent of the 14th was there to protect.

There were no such things as anchor babies or illegals when the amendment was ratified.
 
A house (for most people) will be the biggest expense in their life outside of children. It will likely be their largest investment too. The banks put everything in writing, and if you don't understand what is written, any lawyer will be glad to work with you and the banks to make sure you don't get screwed.

If you are going to buy a house for 200K, paying a lawyer $500.00 is very wise money to spend.

which has nothing to do with what she just said...

The banks screwed working people and of course, you side with the banks.

Battered Housewife Republican, everyone.
 
A house (for most people) will be the biggest expense in their life outside of children. It will likely be their largest investment too. The banks put everything in writing, and if you don't understand what is written, any lawyer will be glad to work with you and the banks to make sure you don't get screwed.

If you are going to buy a house for 200K, paying a lawyer $500.00 is very wise money to spend.

which has nothing to do with what she just said...

The banks screwed working people and of course, you side with the banks.

Battered Housewife Republican, everyone.

The only way banks screw people is if they do something outside of the contract which of course, is illegal.

If you get an ARM loan at 2% interest, there is only one way it can move. So who's screwing who? And if you don't want to hire a lawyer, go on the internet and figure out what your payments are going to be if it goes up to 3%, 4%, 5%.

This is what happens when you lend money to non credit worthy borrowers. People bought houses at a mortgage they could barely afford. When the interest rates went up, they could no longer afford their homes. It was instrumental with the destruction of my suburb. Ghetto trash moved here when they didn't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. With them came the crime; so bad our police could barely keep up with it. They worked with surrounding suburbs to help handle the overflow on many occasions.

They figured what the hell, I'll just move out of these projects and into a home I have no intention of paying on. It will take banks months or years to kick me out, so it's like a free vacation in the suburbs. New stores to rob, clean properties to destroy, new people to attack and rob in the streets. There is nothing left to ruin in my neighborhood, so it's all fresh meat to me!
 
The only way banks screw people is if they do something outside of the contract which of course, is illegal.

Um, no. The banks screw people legally every day. The thing is, when you remove any consumer protections, and fight against any regulation, they do more of that sort of thing.

This is what happens when you lend money to non credit worthy borrowers. People bought houses at a mortgage they could barely afford. When the interest rates went up, they could no longer afford their homes. It was instrumental with the destruction of my suburb. Ghetto trash moved here when they didn't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. With them came the crime; so bad our police could barely keep up with it. They worked with surrounding suburbs to help handle the overflow on many occasions.

They figured what the hell, I'll just move out of these projects and into a home I have no intention of paying on. It will take banks months or years to kick me out, so it's like a free vacation in the suburbs. New stores to rob, clean properties to destroy, new people to attack and rob in the streets. There is nothing left to ruin in my neighborhood, so it's all fresh meat to me!

Yeah, Ray Brought the Racism again...

Again, dude, you live in Cleveland... the reason why poor people moved in is because anyone with affluence moved out.
 
Um, no. The banks screw people legally every day. The thing is, when you remove any consumer protections, and fight against any regulation, they do more of that sort of thing.

What consumer protections do you speak of? People screw themselves by not investigating the contracts they sign.

Yeah, Ray Brought the Racism again...

Again, dude, you live in Cleveland... the reason why poor people moved in is because anyone with affluence moved out.

The good people didn't move out until they started moving in. Until that time, we had one of the greatest suburbs in Cuyahoga county. It was one of the safest suburbs, excellent schools, great shopping......why would anybody move from that unless they were threatened in some way; particularly those who valued the safety of their children?

I know you belong to the party of excuses, but even you have to read your own posts and realize how ridiculous you sound. When good people move out of a city or neighborhood, other good people move in. That has been going on for generations.

If you take 3/4 cup of fresh wholesome milk, and mix that with 1/4 cup of sour curdled milk, you only have one thing, and that is a cup of bad milk. Only a liberal would think that the 3/4 cup of fresh milk will make the 1/4 cup good milk.
 
The good people didn't move out until they started moving in. Until that time, we had one of the greatest suburbs in Cuyahoga county. It was one of the safest suburbs, excellent schools, great shopping......why would anybody move from that unless they were threatened in some way; particularly those who valued the safety of their children?

I know you belong to the party of excuses, but even you have to read your own posts and realize how ridiculous you sound. When good people move out of a city or neighborhood, other good people move in. That has been going on for generations.

If you take 3/4 cup of fresh wholesome milk, and mix that with 1/4 cup of sour curdled milk, you only have one thing, and that is a cup of bad milk. Only a liberal would think that the 3/4 cup of fresh milk will make the 1/4 cup good milk.

People aren't milk, and they aren't 'curdled".

The thing is, I've been to your crappy city. It has been dying for a long time because the industry left, not because the people were bad.

But being the battered housewife republican you are, you blame the victim.
 
The good people didn't move out until they started moving in. Until that time, we had one of the greatest suburbs in Cuyahoga county. It was one of the safest suburbs, excellent schools, great shopping......why would anybody move from that unless they were threatened in some way; particularly those who valued the safety of their children?

I know you belong to the party of excuses, but even you have to read your own posts and realize how ridiculous you sound. When good people move out of a city or neighborhood, other good people move in. That has been going on for generations.

If you take 3/4 cup of fresh wholesome milk, and mix that with 1/4 cup of sour curdled milk, you only have one thing, and that is a cup of bad milk. Only a liberal would think that the 3/4 cup of fresh milk will make the 1/4 cup good milk.

People aren't milk, and they aren't 'curdled".

The thing is, I've been to your crappy city. It has been dying for a long time because the industry left, not because the people were bad.

But being the battered housewife republican you are, you blame the victim.

Right, you've been to a very small part of our town, and made your judgement there.

Industry and good people don't leave somewhere for no reason at all. If your environment is unsafe BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE MOVING IN, if it's sinking financially BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE MOVING IN, if it's difficult to find workers, plus tolerating unions, taxation, yes they leave. I don't need to remind you of how many decades Democrats have had control over this city.

The decay started with bussing. After forced bussing took foothold, the people with money moved out of the city. They didn't want their children shipped across town to a neighborhood they didn't even know. Many women back then didn't drive, and that made it difficult to retrieve your child in the event of an accident, an attack, or illness. So they packed their bags and headed for higher ground. That left people with no children in school and people with not enough money to move out.

So it was Democrats and Democrat policies that destroyed Cleveland, Ohio.
 
Right, you've been to a very small part of our town, and made your judgement there.

No, I was in the "Downtown" of your city, the part that is usually supposed to be the part they want people to see.. and it was crap.



Industry and good people don't leave somewhere for no reason at all. If your environment is unsafe BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE MOVING IN, if it's sinking financially BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE MOVING IN, if it's difficult to find workers, plus tolerating unions, taxation, yes they leave. I don't need to remind you of how many decades Democrats have had control over this city.

Again, battered Housewife Republican... Daddy One Percent got tired of slapping you around because they found a new bitch, and you are blaming the children.

The decay started with bussing.

Yeah, Ray keeps bringing the racism...He must have an endless supply of it at his house. Guess what, we had busing in Chicago, too. We were just fine. and it was more of a pain the ass because we cover a lot more territory.
 
No, I was in the "Downtown" of your city, the part that is usually supposed to be the part they want people to see.. and it was crap.

You didn't specify downtown, you said the city. Guess what? Our city extends way beyond downtown.

Again, battered Housewife Republican... Daddy One Percent got tired of slapping you around because they found a new bitch, and you are blaming the children.

Of course, because it's in the Commie handbook: It's never a Democrats fault........never.

Yeah, Ray keeps bringing the racism...He must have an endless supply of it at his house. Guess what, we had busing in Chicago, too. We were just fine. and it was more of a pain the ass because we cover a lot more territory.

Bussing is racism? No wonder the Democrats loved it so much.
 
You didn't specify downtown, you said the city. Guess what? Our city extends way beyond downtown.

Meh, the parts of it I saw, besides downtown, which was a wreck, were even worse. Half the houses were abandoned, there were closed businesses where they didn't even bother to take down the signs of out of business franchises because no one else was moving in.

Of course, because it's in the Commie handbook: It's never a Democrats fault........never.

Seems to me that when things get really fucked up in this country, it's when the GOP is in charge. 9 of the last 10 recessions happened when Republicans were in the White House. Now how is that?

Bussing is racism?

No, whining about it like a little bitch is.
 

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