Now that the good guys are in charge, is it time to revisit the 14th amendment?

[IM2]

Ray doesn't know what he 14h amendment says. To him it is only this:

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection

Nobody black with sense is going to support changing this.

Let's return to Rays ignorance. Here is the rest of the 14h.

Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

 

[IM2]

Sure you will. You would profess to Americans that you are so hell bent on destroying this country, you're even willing to tear down a wall that cost taxpayers 35 billion dollars just so illegals can get in.

Good luck with that one.

First, the wall is never getting built. Once the dems retake the house, you'll be lucky if you can get funding for the ICE Jackboots.

secondly, America needs immigrants.

These fools brag about Trump creating more jobs and not enough people who work, they want to eliminate potential workers who end up paying taxes with income that stimulates and grows the economy while reducing the deficit.

Republicans don't give a fuck about the deficit, that's a myth and propaganda they spew. Proof is how they are blowing it up right now. Democrats are more fiscally responsible.

True.

 

[MisterBeale]

I am down with the OP.

14 ammendment was for Slaves who were kidnapped and brought to America against their wills and the children of those slaves to benefit.

Not for people willingly sneaking across the border to shoot out an anchor baby.

We need to take care of the African American underclass, not import a new one.

We need a national SS ID card with a chip and end this b*******.

 

[MisterBeale]

Correct, it is broken. What we need to do is build that wall. Have a minimum five years prison sentence for anybody caught in the US illegally. Need to redefine the 14th Amendment. Need to end amnesty. That will repair the broken system.

That doesn't fix the problem.

YOUR RACISM IS YOUR PROBLEM, not ours.

True, it would be nice if we can have re-education camps for you incurable racists.

Our problem is, of course, that we have more need for labor than we have people to fill those bottom rung jobs. White people aren't producing enough replacement units and they don't really want those jobs.

You see, there already is an example of a country that is what you want. It's Japan. No immigration, low birth rate, lots of older people retiring now.

Death Spiral Demographics: The Countries Shrinking The Fastest

oh I know, how on Earth will we maintain the wealth gap and keep wages low?

Let's just believe that corporate media, buy their agenda, and import us some more poor folks.

If these businesses ever had to raise wages and entice more folks to enter the work force? But nah, more immigration!

 

[Conservative65]

Don't try to make predictions Joe. You people on the left are terrible at that.

My, we mostly get it right. Demographics are not your friend.

Trump isn't talking as much smack about the economy not that the stock market is crashing, is he?

Joe made the claim that he was sure certain laws he referenced within Florida were similar in my State yet admitted he didn't know in which State I live. Not surprised. He believed Christine "Drunken Slut" Ford without an ounce of evidence to support her claims.

Do try to keep on topic, buddy.... I can only whip your inbred ass on so many threads at a time.

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As for my post, you made the claim about my State then admitted you had no clue where I lived.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Sure you will. You would profess to Americans that you are so hell bent on destroying this country, you're even willing to tear down a wall that cost taxpayers 35 billion dollars just so illegals can get in.

Good luck with that one.

First, the wall is never getting built. Once the dems retake the house, you'll be lucky if you can get funding for the ICE Jackboots.

secondly, America needs immigrants.

These fools brag about Trump creating more jobs and not enough people who work, they want to eliminate potential workers who end up paying taxes with income that stimulates and grows the economy while reducing the deficit.

So riddle me this: if we provide enough labor to satisfy the demand, how do you expect wages to increase for American workers?


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[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes, it is much nicer. Just about anyplace whites exist it's much nicer. Why do you think everybody is trying to move in with whites?

Because White people have stolen most of the world's wealth to start with?

and won't even share it with each other.

But sad little racists like you will sit there with no health insurance and crow, "At least I'm ahead of the darkies so long as they don't get a chance to compete with me for that driving in a straight line job!"

Nobody steals wealth, they create it. Just because you are a loser when it comes to investing doesn’t mean those successful at it stole anything. That’s simply your jealousy talking.


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[Lesh]

Investing?

How many Americans have enough money to invest in any serious way?

WHo the hell do you think you're talking to?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Correct, it is broken. What we need to do is build that wall. Have a minimum five years prison sentence for anybody caught in the US illegally. Need to redefine the 14th Amendment. Need to end amnesty. That will repair the broken system.

That doesn't fix the problem.

YOUR RACISM IS YOUR PROBLEM, not ours.

True, it would be nice if we can have re-education camps for you incurable racists.

Our problem is, of course, that we have more need for labor than we have people to fill those bottom rung jobs. White people aren't producing enough replacement units and they don't really want those jobs.

You see, there already is an example of a country that is what you want. It's Japan. No immigration, low birth rate, lots of older people retiring now.

Death Spiral Demographics: The Countries Shrinking The Fastest

Re-education camps? Why don’t you use the proper term from the book 1984? It was called reprogramming. Oh well, I guess that’s what you call progressive.


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[Penelope]

New wide-ranging analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies‘ Steven Camarotta reveals that there are an estimated 28,000 births to illegal aliens every year in the Los Angeles metro area, exceeding the total number of U.S. births in 14 states and the District of Columbia.

The children of illegal aliens are commonly known as “anchor babies,” as they anchor their illegal alien and noncitizen parents in the U.S. and eventually are allowed to bring an unlimited number of foreign relatives to the country through the process known as “chain migration.”

More Anchor Baby Births in Los Angeles than Total U.S. Births in 14 States

If you want to stop the flies from buzzing around you, close the pancake syrup container if you're going to sit outside.

For years the left has been telling us we don't need a wall, just a heavy fine or prison time for employers who hire illegals. Well I have to agree with that, but I also think that anchor babies are just as much of a problem. Come to the US, find a way to stay for a few months, and pop out a baby(s) so you have an excuse to have to be here.

Time for that to stop.

Why only did he do LA, why not Florida where Russians who rent TRump branded apts come to have babies.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

New wide-ranging analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies‘ Steven Camarotta reveals that there are an estimated 28,000 births to illegal aliens every year in the Los Angeles metro area, exceeding the total number of U.S. births in 14 states and the District of Columbia.

The children of illegal aliens are commonly known as “anchor babies,” as they anchor their illegal alien and noncitizen parents in the U.S. and eventually are allowed to bring an unlimited number of foreign relatives to the country through the process known as “chain migration.”

More Anchor Baby Births in Los Angeles than Total U.S. Births in 14 States

If you want to stop the flies from buzzing around you, close the pancake syrup container if you're going to sit outside.

For years the left has been telling us we don't need a wall, just a heavy fine or prison time for employers who hire illegals. Well I have to agree with that, but I also think that anchor babies are just as much of a problem. Come to the US, find a way to stay for a few months, and pop out a baby(s) so you have an excuse to have to be here.

Time for that to stop.

Why only did he do LA, why not Florida where Russians who rent TRump branded apts come to have babies.

Why did who do LA? What are you talking about?


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[Ray From Cleveland]

Investing?

How many Americans have enough money to invest in any serious way?

WHo the hell do you think you're talking to?

Oh, the Americans that have the newest iPhone, the Americans that have the 400 channel cable plans, the Americans who eat out three to four times a week, the Americans who drive gas guzzling SUV’s, the Americans who pay $120.00 for a bag of pot, those Americans.

You see, many times to become wealthy, you need to make a lot of sacrifices. You can’t start a family at the age of 18 with a low skill job. If you’re going to only use the internet for porn and sports stories instead of studying investments, then you are never going to become wealthy unless you hit a lottery number.


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[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Investing?

How many Americans have enough money to invest in any serious way?

WHo the hell do you think you're talking to?

I am not rich by any stretch of the imagination, but I have investments.

A better question would be, why are you so stupid?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Don't try to make predictions Joe. You people on the left are terrible at that.

My, we mostly get it right. Demographics are not your friend.

Trump isn't talking as much smack about the economy not that the stock market is crashing, is he?

Stock market will be just fine. As for predictions, you were wrong the last presidential election, wrong the last time on the Senate, wrong when the Republicans took the house in 2010, and wrong about keeping it the elections afterwards.


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[Penelope]

New wide-ranging analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies‘ Steven Camarotta reveals that there are an estimated 28,000 births to illegal aliens every year in the Los Angeles metro area, exceeding the total number of U.S. births in 14 states and the District of Columbia.

The children of illegal aliens are commonly known as “anchor babies,” as they anchor their illegal alien and noncitizen parents in the U.S. and eventually are allowed to bring an unlimited number of foreign relatives to the country through the process known as “chain migration.”

More Anchor Baby Births in Los Angeles than Total U.S. Births in 14 States

If you want to stop the flies from buzzing around you, close the pancake syrup container if you're going to sit outside.

For years the left has been telling us we don't need a wall, just a heavy fine or prison time for employers who hire illegals. Well I have to agree with that, but I also think that anchor babies are just as much of a problem. Come to the US, find a way to stay for a few months, and pop out a baby(s) so you have an excuse to have to be here.

Time for that to stop.

Why only did he do LA, why not Florida where Russians who rent TRump branded apts come to have babies.

Why did who do LA? What are you talking about?


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Wonder why Breibart never gives a link, most people are too lazy to look up where their info is from.
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From the ACS and used by the Center of Immigration Studies and under about :
The data collected by the Center during the past quarter-century has led many of our researchers to conclude that current, high levels of immigration are making it harder to achieve such important national objectives as better public schools, a cleaner environment, homeland security, and a living wage for every native-born and immigrant worker. These data may support criticism of US immigration policies, but they do not justify ill feelings toward our immigrant community. In fact, many of us at the Center are animated by a "low-immigration, pro-immigrant" vision of an America that admits fewer immigrants but affords a warmer welcome for those who are admitted.
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· The states with the largest numbers of births to illegal immigrants are California with 65,000, Texas with 51,000, Florida with 16,000, Illinois with 14,000, Georgia with 13,000, New York with 12,000, and New Jersey and North Carolina with 11,000 each.

· The state with the highest share of births to illegal immigrants is Nevada, at nearly one in six. Births to illegal immigrants account for one in seven births in California and Texas.

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Data and Methods

This analysis relies on the Census Bureau's five-year, public-use file from the American Community Survey (ACS), collected between 2012 and 2016. With roughly 15.7 million respondents, including 1.8 million immigrants, the five-year ACS is by far the largest survey conducted by the Census Bureau. It is weighted to reflect the size and characteristics of the U.S. population over the full five-year period.

Definitions. In this analysis we use the terms "foreign-born" and "immigrant" synonymously. Immigrants are persons living in the United States who were not U.S. citizens at birth. Census Bureau data such as the ACS includes naturalized American citizens, legal permanent residents (green card holders), illegal aliens, and people on long-term temporary visas, such as foreign students or guest workers.

Births to Legal and Illegal Immigrants in the U.S.

 

[Penelope]

They are anti immigration and was founded by
John Tanton - Wikipedia

Who practiced in Petoskey MI and believes in eugenics.

 

[Penelope]

"CIS has a long history of bigotry, starting with its founder, white nationalist John Tanton, but in 2016, the group hit a new low. CIS commissioned Jason Richwine, a man who’s Ph.D. dissertation endorses the idea of IQ differences between the races, to write multiple reports and blog pieces for the organization. The group also continued to circulate racist and anti-Semitic authors to its supporters, and finally, staffer John Miano attended the white nationalist group VDARE’s Christmas party in December."

Email listserv: CIS circulates a weekly email listserv with dozens of links to articles about immigration. The SPLC said that these emails have highlighted articles by "white nationalists" such as Paul Weston, a Holocaust denier, and articles by American Renaissance, run by Jared Taylor, who has made racist statements about blacks. One article entitled "Voting for Hillary equals more Muslim killings of Americans" claimed that Clinton’s assistant "works fervently for Sharia law in America" and that Trump would give the United States a chance to "survive this immigration invasion."

Is the Center for Immigration Studies a 'hate group' ?

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Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) can be considered a hate group. Anyway a lot of you hate immigrants, even though you once were.

 

[MisterBeale]

They are anti immigration and was founded by
John Tanton - Wikipedia

Who practiced in Petoskey MI and believes in eugenics.

A eugenicist? Like Margaret Sanger you mean?

So he is one of yours?

"He founded Petoskey chapters of the Sierra Club and Planned Parenthood and, for a time, became the national president of Zero Population Growth."

That's rich, thanks.

 

[NoNukes]

New wide-ranging analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies‘ Steven Camarotta reveals that there are an estimated 28,000 births to illegal aliens every year in the Los Angeles metro area, exceeding the total number of U.S. births in 14 states and the District of Columbia.

The children of illegal aliens are commonly known as “anchor babies,” as they anchor their illegal alien and noncitizen parents in the U.S. and eventually are allowed to bring an unlimited number of foreign relatives to the country through the process known as “chain migration.”

More Anchor Baby Births in Los Angeles than Total U.S. Births in 14 States

If you want to stop the flies from buzzing around you, close the pancake syrup container if you're going to sit outside.

For years the left has been telling us we don't need a wall, just a heavy fine or prison time for employers who hire illegals. Well I have to agree with that, but I also think that anchor babies are just as much of a problem. Come to the US, find a way to stay for a few months, and pop out a baby(s) so you have an excuse to have to be here.

Time for that to stop.

The good guys? You are brainwashed.

Not brainwashed, just observant. The left usually sides with evil and the right usually sides with the good. That's something you can't deny.

You are totally delusional. It is the opposite, and most of the world sees this.

You don't know what most of the world sees because you live in your own little word.

Who does the left usually side with?

Police vs criminal. Liberals choose criminal.

US military vs enemy. Liberals choose enemy.

Palestinian vs Israel. Liberals choose Palestinians.

Armed citizens vs unarmed victims. Liberals choose unarmed victims.

Restroom facilities for females, vs restroom facilities for weirdos in dresses. Liberals choose weirdos in dresses.

The most government in our lives vs less government. Liberals choose more government.

God in our society vs God not part of society. Liberals choose God not in society.

Wrong on all counts.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

New wide-ranging analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies‘ Steven Camarotta reveals that there are an estimated 28,000 births to illegal aliens every year in the Los Angeles metro area, exceeding the total number of U.S. births in 14 states and the District of Columbia.

The children of illegal aliens are commonly known as “anchor babies,” as they anchor their illegal alien and noncitizen parents in the U.S. and eventually are allowed to bring an unlimited number of foreign relatives to the country through the process known as “chain migration.”

More Anchor Baby Births in Los Angeles than Total U.S. Births in 14 States

If you want to stop the flies from buzzing around you, close the pancake syrup container if you're going to sit outside.

For years the left has been telling us we don't need a wall, just a heavy fine or prison time for employers who hire illegals. Well I have to agree with that, but I also think that anchor babies are just as much of a problem. Come to the US, find a way to stay for a few months, and pop out a baby(s) so you have an excuse to have to be here.

Time for that to stop.

Why only did he do LA, why not Florida where Russians who rent TRump branded apts come to have babies.

Why did who do LA? What are you talking about?


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From the ACS and used by the Center of Immigration Studies and under about :
The data collected by the Center during the past quarter-century has led many of our researchers to conclude that current, high levels of immigration are making it harder to achieve such important national objectives as better public schools, a cleaner environment, homeland security, and a living wage for every native-born and immigrant worker. These data may support criticism of US immigration policies, but they do not justify ill feelings toward our immigrant community. In fact, many of us at the Center are animated by a "low-immigration, pro-immigrant" vision of an America that admits fewer immigrants but affords a warmer welcome for those who are admitted.
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· The states with the largest numbers of births to illegal immigrants are California with 65,000, Texas with 51,000, Florida with 16,000, Illinois with 14,000, Georgia with 13,000, New York with 12,000, and New Jersey and North Carolina with 11,000 each.

· The state with the highest share of births to illegal immigrants is Nevada, at nearly one in six. Births to illegal immigrants account for one in seven births in California and Texas.

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Data and Methods

This analysis relies on the Census Bureau's five-year, public-use file from the American Community Survey (ACS), collected between 2012 and 2016. With roughly 15.7 million respondents, including 1.8 million immigrants, the five-year ACS is by far the largest survey conducted by the Census Bureau. It is weighted to reflect the size and characteristics of the U.S. population over the full five-year period.

Definitions. In this analysis we use the terms "foreign-born" and "immigrant" synonymously. Immigrants are persons living in the United States who were not U.S. citizens at birth. Census Bureau data such as the ACS includes naturalized American citizens, legal permanent residents (green card holders), illegal aliens, and people on long-term temporary visas, such as foreign students or guest workers.

Births to Legal and Illegal Immigrants in the U.S.

· The states with the largest numbers of births to illegal immigrants are California with 65,000,

I hate to tell you this, but LA is in guess where????