Not So Fast Barry

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    The president talked tough today regarding the failed Christmas Day bomber.

    Will he now come back and admit the equally grievous errors that resulted in 13 innocent deaths at Ft. Hood? From CBC News...

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    Fort Hood Intel Lapse Mirrors Detroit Case

    Exclusive: FBI and Pentagon Missed Red Flag that Hasan Was E-mailing Qaeda Cleric, Who's also Linked to Abdulmutallab

    Less than a month after major Nidal Hasan allegedly killed 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas, the Pentagon's top intelligence officer sent the White House a report detailing an earlier failure to connect the dots. It reads like a dress rehearsal for the Detroit bomber case, reports CBS News chief national security correspondent David Martin.

    The radical cleric with ties to the Detroit bomber is also linked to the Fort Hood suspect. Their e-mail exchanges are at the heart of another apparent failure by the intelligence community

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    Full article here:

    Fort Hood Intel Lapse Mirrors Detroit Case - CBS Evening News - CBS News
     
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    President Obama took FULL responsibility for the failures today. Which is something President Bush NEVER did for th attacks on 9/11. Yet here you are now wanting MORE from Obama while all the while giving Bush a pass? Just how partisan can you be?
     
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    I am not surprised. In the olden days a good scretary took down a good message. It was that easy, call up, write down the caller, pass on to the boss, nothing secret in that. Now look at it. we have cell phones, fax machines, and a mail system that won't deliver when it snows too hard. I knew there was reason I retired. I can't handle it, fast talking and fast cars, I prefer the simple life, a few pop pops once in awhile don't hurt me none. I'll take flip flop sandles over a flip flop president any day. I wish that Kerry had been hired. I heard a woman say recently that Obam-a has nice skin. Really? And what should we attribute that to? A good ol bar of Ivory coast soap? Me I got dry skin, so bad I feel like I am molting here. Nobody ever says Flew has nice skin because its dry.

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    Will he also take full responsibility for the Fort Hood shootings that killed 13 innocents?

    Bush did not have the luxury of a post 9/11 world to learn from prior to the events on September 11th. Obama does - and yet, he consistently treated a threat as we did prior to 9/11. It was both arrogant, and ignorant - to say nothing of dangerous.

    And now CBS reports that just as mistakes were made surrounding the near-disaster that was the Christmas Day bomber, so too were clear dangers ignored prior to the Fort Hood disaster. The seeming atmosphere of complacancy came from the White House down, and permeated our security agencies, who not only became complacent, but also working under fear of prosecution if doing their job was deemed too harsh, or politically incorrect.

    Yes, Obama owns this environment of dangerous complacency and on-the-job uncertainty.

    He gave a half-hearted speech of ownership for the Christmas Day bomber. Now we await his words regarding the screw ups that led to the deaths of 13 innocents at Fort Hood.
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    Fort Hood Intel Lapse Mirrors Detroit Case

    Exclusive: FBI and Pentagon Missed Red Flag that Hasan Was E-mailing Qaeda Cleric, Who's also Linked to Abdulmutallab

    Less than a month after major Nidal Hasan allegedly killed 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas, the Pentagon's top intelligence officer sent the White House a report detailing an earlier failure to connect the dots. It reads like a dress rehearsal for the Detroit bomber case, reports CBS News chief national security correspondent David Martin.

    The radical cleric with ties to the Detroit bomber is also linked to the Fort Hood suspect. Their e-mail exchanges are at the heart of another apparent failure by the intelligence community.


    Fort Hood Intel Lapse Mirrors Detroit Case - CBS Evening News - CBS News
     
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    I hope that all the problems that can be fixed are fixed. The rest is history and we can't do anything about it, except learn from it. I am hopeful that will happen.
    I still wish he would fire janet, but if he keeps her around and she makes herself look foolish again, it will only make him look more foolish.
    I was impressed by his speech, and the fact that he did take responsibility.
    How long has it been since one of our leaders has taken responsibility for anything?
    That is refreshing. I believe he is serious about 'fixing' the problems and tightening up the system.
     
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    Lehman: Clueless Obama


    After watching President Obama’s remarks on national security this afternoon, John Lehman, the secretary of the Navy in the Reagan administration and a member of the 9/11 Commission, tells National Review Online that, “frankly, I’m pissed off.”


    ...“President Obama continues to totally ignore one of the important thrusts of our 9/11 recommendations, which is that you have to approach counterterrorism as a multiagency intelligence issue, and not as a law-enforcement issue. He’s made a lot of commission’s members angry for dismissing our report and ignoring key recommendations.” Obama, he adds, has taken a “lawyer-like, politically-correct approach” to national security issues like terrorist watchlists and no-fly lists. “You got to blame the president for enforcing the politically-correct and legalistic policies that led to these failures.”


    Lehman: Clueless Obama - Robert Costa - The Corner on National Review Online
     
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    Whup, the old "But Bush" defense.
    Bush is history. Get over it.

    WHat does it mean he "took full responsibility for it"?? If it happens again he will resign? He will have his pay docked for the survivors?
    In business if someone screws up big time he generally gets fired if he was fully responsible for the event. In government it seems one only gets accolade for "taking responsibility." There is no downside.
     
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    Personally, I could give a rat's ass about Bush. I only do what I can to point out your hypocrisy. You guys are all full of it.
     
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    So the idea that someone can "take full responsibility" without taking the blame doesn't bother you. The idea that Obama screwed up and allowed this to happen doesn;t bother you.
    The only thing that bothers you is that some people are somewhat supportive of former President Bush. That bothers you.
    I think there is medication for this condition.
     

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