Not gonna lie; I underestimated Trump

[Correll]

Leighton has admitted to lying. Seems you need to be a little more skeptical, or your desire to see "honesty" win out, will be betrayed by yourself.

And Trumpy said he knew nothing of the payoffs to the women Did you believe him?

No.


You are the one that feel for an obvious lie. Have you learned anything from that?


Or are you just reconsidering your commitment to "honesty"?

Are you saying that errors in judgement , in judging others can't be made? I made an error ,it wasn't the first nor will it be the last

If you are serious about caring about honesty, you should be trying to do better at such judgements.


What have you learned?

I'm too quick to judge sometimes but equally quick to admit I was wrong With Trump it's all black and white,,a con man since his 20's

Are you going to be more skeptical the next time some talking head on the tube is telling you what you want to hear about Trump?

 

[theHawk]

I thought he was just gonna run off to play golf and hand over the reins to "his" party, or that otherwise, the experienced republicans in Congress would bitchslap him into playing by their rules.

Boy was I wrong! Instead, he bitchslapped them, destroyed the Republican Party and created a new party; the Trump Cult. Basically, the party is now about him. They don't stand for anything really, other than Trump's whims, his need for adoration, and his petty squabbles.

Trump even has tremendous allies in the MAINSTREAM MEDIA. Go to any channel and there's a 70+% chance they are giving the cult leader free publicity. The MSM gave Trump 2016 on a silver platter, and in addition, diminished his losses in 2018. Trump did a fantastic job of manipulating the fools to his benefit.

Has a party ever completely sacrificed its ideals and principles in order to bow down and worship a specific individual before? I must give Trump credit; though he is stupid, he has managed to tap into the unbridled stupidity of so many others, and through the unintelligent masses he has managed to bend the wills of those far more intelligent, but with even less integrity. Because at the end of the day, Trump was always only about Trump. But the Republicans? They used to believe in something (supposedly). Now they just spend their days polishing Donald's ass.

Free trade? What is that? Lol.

He’s setting the Republican Party straight. For years the GOP used the term “free trade” to reward corporations for moving labor to third world shitholes. He’s standing up against the dishonest, pro-Marxist media. He’s standing up against globalist polices which seek to destroy Western culture and capitalism.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I'd be more proud if he built the fucking Wall, but I do like his utter disregard and contempt for Political Correctness.

He had a chance to build it but turned down what the dems wanted in exchange ,, Actually at first he didn't turn it down but his congress didn't want to give dems shit so he changed his mind

I don't care about reasons. I want the fucking Wall.


But, the damage he is doing to Political Correctness and your side's, utter sense of entitlement, is something for any Trump supporter to be proud of.

Correll what's gonna be a riot ,watching Trump and his family trying to squirm out of all the shit that will be falling on their heads

Yeah, that's what I heard...................a year and a half ago.

Yeah but that was when your repub friends were hiding investigations Now it's a different game

How could they be hiding anything when it's a special council who hired mostly anti-Trump people to do the investigations?

 

[jknowgood]

You really have a problem with finding facts, dear. Are you relying on think progress for your information?

Republicans themselves will tell you that their party now revolves around Trump worship. Even Cruz and Graham, once outspoken critics of Trump, are now his poodles. I am wrong about this somehow? I think it's pretty obvious what has happened. But you're welcome to your opinion I suppose.

Lol, liberals had little kids singing praises to Obama. We respect Trump because he is keeping his campaign promises. Something your man child didn't.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I don't care about reasons. I want the fucking Wall.


But, the damage he is doing to Political Correctness and your side's, utter sense of entitlement, is something for any Trump supporter to be proud of.

Correll what's gonna be a riot ,watching Trump and his family trying to squirm out of all the shit that will be falling on their heads

Would you support that, if you know for a fact that it was all manufactured bullshit?

Certainly not I'd like honesty to win out every time BUT know with politicians that's a pipe dream

Did you believe Judy Munro-Leighton's accusations against Kavanaugh?

Unfortunately yes ,,,,,,,,but I still believe Ford

 

[John Shaw]

You really have a problem with finding facts, dear. Are you relying on think progress for your information?

Republicans themselves will tell you that their party now revolves around Trump worship. Even Cruz and Graham, once outspoken critics of Trump, are now his poodles. I am wrong about this somehow? I think it's pretty obvious what has happened. But you're welcome to your opinion I suppose.

Lol, liberals had little kids singing praises to Obama. We respect Trump because he is keeping his campaign promises. Something your man child didn't.

Why do you assume I was a supporter of Obama?

 

[jknowgood]

You really have a problem with finding facts, dear. Are you relying on think progress for your information?

Republicans themselves will tell you that their party now revolves around Trump worship. Even Cruz and Graham, once outspoken critics of Trump, are now his poodles. I am wrong about this somehow? I think it's pretty obvious what has happened. But you're welcome to your opinion I suppose.

Lol, liberals had little kids singing praises to Obama. We respect Trump because he is keeping his campaign promises. Something your man child didn't.

Why do you assume I was a supporter of Obama?

You wasn't?

 

[BluesLegend]

You really have a problem with finding facts, dear. Are you relying on think progress for your information?

Republicans themselves will tell you that their party now revolves around Trump worship. Even Cruz and Graham, once outspoken critics of Trump, are now his poodles. I am wrong about this somehow? I think it's pretty obvious what has happened. But you're welcome to your opinion I suppose.

Lol, liberals had little kids singing praises to Obama. We respect Trump because he is keeping his campaign promises. Something your man child didn't.

Why do you assume I was a supporter of Obama?

We are also pretty sure the sun will rise again tomorrow.

 

[John Shaw]

I thought he was just gonna run off to play golf and hand over the reins to "his" party, or that otherwise, the experienced republicans in Congress would bitchslap him into playing by their rules.

Boy was I wrong! Instead, he bitchslapped them, destroyed the Republican Party and created a new party; the Trump Cult. Basically, the party is now about him. They don't stand for anything really, other than Trump's whims, his need for adoration, and his petty squabbles.

Trump even has tremendous allies in the MAINSTREAM MEDIA. Go to any channel and there's a 70+% chance they are giving the cult leader free publicity. The MSM gave Trump 2016 on a silver platter, and in addition, diminished his losses in 2018. Trump did a fantastic job of manipulating the fools to his benefit.

Has a party ever completely sacrificed its ideals and principles in order to bow down and worship a specific individual before? I must give Trump credit; though he is stupid, he has managed to tap into the unbridled stupidity of so many others, and through the unintelligent masses he has managed to bend the wills of those far more intelligent, but with even less integrity. Because at the end of the day, Trump was always only about Trump. But the Republicans? They used to believe in something (supposedly). Now they just spend their days polishing Donald's ass.

Free trade? What is that? Lol.

I don't even know where to start. This op is pure shit.


The inability of lefties to see beyond their own narrow mind, is beyond belief.


Screw you, you moron.

Why so angry?

You accuse me of licking another man's ass and you wonder why I am angry with you?


In my world, those would be fighting words. Perhaps in your world such behavior is considered normal.


Or is this just standard lib cluelessness?

I was referring to Republican politicians, not voters. For the record.

So then, I am either part of the "unintelligent masses" or those "with even less integrity"?


Less fighting words, still nothing but unsupported personal attacks.



Here is something you might not have heard before.


Trump's Trade and Immigration policies were crafted to serve the interests of the American Middle Class.


That was far more appealing to US, than liberals who obviously hold US in complete contempt.



So, we voted for him.



That you have to invent secret "reasons" to explain this, has more to do with YOUR intelligence and integrity than ours.

A lot of people just like Trump because he's a toxic Twitter troll. Those people are genuinely idiots.

To those who actually think he has good policy, um ... I would say the execution is questionable, but there's nothing wrong with wanting secure borders, etc.

 

[John Shaw]

You really have a problem with finding facts, dear. Are you relying on think progress for your information?

Republicans themselves will tell you that their party now revolves around Trump worship. Even Cruz and Graham, once outspoken critics of Trump, are now his poodles. I am wrong about this somehow? I think it's pretty obvious what has happened. But you're welcome to your opinion I suppose.

Lol, liberals had little kids singing praises to Obama. We respect Trump because he is keeping his campaign promises. Something your man child didn't.

Why do you assume I was a supporter of Obama?

You wasn't?

I've addressed this many times, but once more, I never voted for him, never supported him in any way, shape, or form. I did not hate him but I didn't like him either. Whether y'all believe me or not is up to you, but I must say that I'm getting kind of sick of repeating this.

 

[edward37]

And Trumpy said he knew nothing of the payoffs to the women Did you believe him?

No.


You are the one that feel for an obvious lie. Have you learned anything from that?


Or are you just reconsidering your commitment to "honesty"?

Are you saying that errors in judgement , in judging others can't be made? I made an error ,it wasn't the first nor will it be the last

If you are serious about caring about honesty, you should be trying to do better at such judgements.


What have you learned?

I'm too quick to judge sometimes but equally quick to admit I was wrong With Trump it's all black and white,,a con man since his 20's

Are you going to be more skeptical the next time some talking head on the tube is telling you what you want to hear about Trump?

I do know that BOTH sides exaggerate a lot ,so yes there are things I'll take with a grain of salt about Trump and about him spouting off about dems and media Did he ever apologize for his birther BS??

 

[Correll]

I don't even know where to start. This op is pure shit.


The inability of lefties to see beyond their own narrow mind, is beyond belief.


Screw you, you moron.

Why so angry?

You accuse me of licking another man's ass and you wonder why I am angry with you?


In my world, those would be fighting words. Perhaps in your world such behavior is considered normal.


Or is this just standard lib cluelessness?

I was referring to Republican politicians, not voters. For the record.

So then, I am either part of the "unintelligent masses" or those "with even less integrity"?


Less fighting words, still nothing but unsupported personal attacks.



Here is something you might not have heard before.


Trump's Trade and Immigration policies were crafted to serve the interests of the American Middle Class.


That was far more appealing to US, than liberals who obviously hold US in complete contempt.



So, we voted for him.



That you have to invent secret "reasons" to explain this, has more to do with YOUR intelligence and integrity than ours.

A lot of people just like Trump because he's a toxic Twitter troll. Those people are genuinely idiots.

To those who actually think he has good policy, um ... I would say the execution is questionable, but there's nothing wrong with wanting secure borders, etc.

The standard Conventional Wisdom, crafted by the liberal media and pop culture and political correctness, is that wanting secure borders is a Racism.


It is the sort of "thinking" is why those who "like him because he's a toxic Twitter troll" like him.


And it is a completely valid position.

 

[edward37]

He had a chance to build it but turned down what the dems wanted in exchange ,, Actually at first he didn't turn it down but his congress didn't want to give dems shit so he changed his mind

I don't care about reasons. I want the fucking Wall.


But, the damage he is doing to Political Correctness and your side's, utter sense of entitlement, is something for any Trump supporter to be proud of.

Correll what's gonna be a riot ,watching Trump and his family trying to squirm out of all the shit that will be falling on their heads

Yeah, that's what I heard...................a year and a half ago.

Yeah but that was when your repub friends were hiding investigations Now it's a different game

How could they be hiding anything when it's a special council who hired mostly anti-Trump people to do the investigations?

The HOUSE either hid or PREVENTED investigations Mueller Rosenstein Comey were or are REPUBLICANS

 

[Correll]

No.


You are the one that feel for an obvious lie. Have you learned anything from that?


Or are you just reconsidering your commitment to "honesty"?

Are you saying that errors in judgement , in judging others can't be made? I made an error ,it wasn't the first nor will it be the last

If you are serious about caring about honesty, you should be trying to do better at such judgements.


What have you learned?

I'm too quick to judge sometimes but equally quick to admit I was wrong With Trump it's all black and white,,a con man since his 20's

Are you going to be more skeptical the next time some talking head on the tube is telling you what you want to hear about Trump?

I do know that BOTH sides exaggerate a lot ,so yes there are things I'll take with a grain of salt about Trump and about him spouting off about dems and media Did he ever apologize for his birther BS??

Good. I will hold you to that.

 

[John Shaw]

Why so angry?

You accuse me of licking another man's ass and you wonder why I am angry with you?


In my world, those would be fighting words. Perhaps in your world such behavior is considered normal.


Or is this just standard lib cluelessness?

I was referring to Republican politicians, not voters. For the record.

So then, I am either part of the "unintelligent masses" or those "with even less integrity"?


Less fighting words, still nothing but unsupported personal attacks.



Here is something you might not have heard before.


Trump's Trade and Immigration policies were crafted to serve the interests of the American Middle Class.


That was far more appealing to US, than liberals who obviously hold US in complete contempt.



So, we voted for him.



That you have to invent secret "reasons" to explain this, has more to do with YOUR intelligence and integrity than ours.

A lot of people just like Trump because he's a toxic Twitter troll. Those people are genuinely idiots.

To those who actually think he has good policy, um ... I would say the execution is questionable, but there's nothing wrong with wanting secure borders, etc.

The standard Conventional Wisdom, crafted by the liberal media and pop culture and political correctness, is that wanting secure borders is a Racism.


It is the sort of "thinking" is why those who "like him because he's a toxic Twitter troll" like him.


And it is a completely valid position.

There is a difference between liking the policy and thinking the man's behavior is suitable for the presidency. I don't hate Trump, but to me it's like I literally have a clown as my president, and I'm sitting here wondering, "Why is the president wearing face paint?" I don't get it.

 

[Correll]

You accuse me of licking another man's ass and you wonder why I am angry with you?


In my world, those would be fighting words. Perhaps in your world such behavior is considered normal.


Or is this just standard lib cluelessness?

I was referring to Republican politicians, not voters. For the record.

So then, I am either part of the "unintelligent masses" or those "with even less integrity"?


Less fighting words, still nothing but unsupported personal attacks.



Here is something you might not have heard before.


Trump's Trade and Immigration policies were crafted to serve the interests of the American Middle Class.


That was far more appealing to US, than liberals who obviously hold US in complete contempt.



So, we voted for him.



That you have to invent secret "reasons" to explain this, has more to do with YOUR intelligence and integrity than ours.

A lot of people just like Trump because he's a toxic Twitter troll. Those people are genuinely idiots.

To those who actually think he has good policy, um ... I would say the execution is questionable, but there's nothing wrong with wanting secure borders, etc.

The standard Conventional Wisdom, crafted by the liberal media and pop culture and political correctness, is that wanting secure borders is a Racism.


It is the sort of "thinking" is why those who "like him because he's a toxic Twitter troll" like him.


And it is a completely valid position.

There is a difference between liking the policy and thinking the man's behavior is suitable for the presidency. I don't hate Trump, but to me it's like I literally have a clown as my president, and I'm sitting here wondering, "Why is the president wearing face paint?" I don't get it.

You are missing my point.

Political Correctness makes "secure borders" proof of "racism" and that is a real issue in this country, and those that support Trump for his challenge of it, are not, as you claim, "idiots" but people with a valid position.

 

[John Shaw]

I was referring to Republican politicians, not voters. For the record.

So then, I am either part of the "unintelligent masses" or those "with even less integrity"?


Less fighting words, still nothing but unsupported personal attacks.



Here is something you might not have heard before.


Trump's Trade and Immigration policies were crafted to serve the interests of the American Middle Class.


That was far more appealing to US, than liberals who obviously hold US in complete contempt.



So, we voted for him.



That you have to invent secret "reasons" to explain this, has more to do with YOUR intelligence and integrity than ours.

A lot of people just like Trump because he's a toxic Twitter troll. Those people are genuinely idiots.

To those who actually think he has good policy, um ... I would say the execution is questionable, but there's nothing wrong with wanting secure borders, etc.

The standard Conventional Wisdom, crafted by the liberal media and pop culture and political correctness, is that wanting secure borders is a Racism.


It is the sort of "thinking" is why those who "like him because he's a toxic Twitter troll" like him.


And it is a completely valid position.

There is a difference between liking the policy and thinking the man's behavior is suitable for the presidency. I don't hate Trump, but to me it's like I literally have a clown as my president, and I'm sitting here wondering, "Why is the president wearing face paint?" I don't get it.

You are missing my point.

Political Correctness makes "secure borders" proof of "racism" and that is a real issue in this country, and those that support Trump for his challenge of it, are not, as you claim, "idiots" but people with a valid position.

Depends. You can be for support of secure borders for a racist reason (I think brown people are inferior and I don't want them in my country), or an econmic reason, or security reasons, or just population reasons. The reason for your support of an issue is independent from your support of the issue. Just saying, "I support secure borders" (which, I feel like, should be the default), tells nothing about one's reason for said support.

Now, if you're on Twitter screaming, "Keep those goddamn beaners outta my 'Murica!!", then we now know your reason. Trump himself has basically said, "These are bad people; we need to keep them out", in so many words. If he just said, "we need to protect our borders because we need to enforce our laws", I think people, myself included, would be fine with it. The delivery, the execution, the message ... all this stuff matters.

 

[edward37]

Are you saying that errors in judgement , in judging others can't be made? I made an error ,it wasn't the first nor will it be the last

If you are serious about caring about honesty, you should be trying to do better at such judgements.


What have you learned?

I'm too quick to judge sometimes but equally quick to admit I was wrong With Trump it's all black and white,,a con man since his 20's

Are you going to be more skeptical the next time some talking head on the tube is telling you what you want to hear about Trump?

I do know that BOTH sides exaggerate a lot ,so yes there are things I'll take with a grain of salt about Trump and about him spouting off about dems and media Did he ever apologize for his birther BS??

Good. I will hold you to that.

It'd be a good thing if you did likewise to some of your cohorts here too

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So then, I am either part of the "unintelligent masses" or those "with even less integrity"?


Less fighting words, still nothing but unsupported personal attacks.



Here is something you might not have heard before.


Trump's Trade and Immigration policies were crafted to serve the interests of the American Middle Class.


That was far more appealing to US, than liberals who obviously hold US in complete contempt.



So, we voted for him.



That you have to invent secret "reasons" to explain this, has more to do with YOUR intelligence and integrity than ours.

A lot of people just like Trump because he's a toxic Twitter troll. Those people are genuinely idiots.

To those who actually think he has good policy, um ... I would say the execution is questionable, but there's nothing wrong with wanting secure borders, etc.

The standard Conventional Wisdom, crafted by the liberal media and pop culture and political correctness, is that wanting secure borders is a Racism.


It is the sort of "thinking" is why those who "like him because he's a toxic Twitter troll" like him.


And it is a completely valid position.

There is a difference between liking the policy and thinking the man's behavior is suitable for the presidency. I don't hate Trump, but to me it's like I literally have a clown as my president, and I'm sitting here wondering, "Why is the president wearing face paint?" I don't get it.

You are missing my point.

Political Correctness makes "secure borders" proof of "racism" and that is a real issue in this country, and those that support Trump for his challenge of it, are not, as you claim, "idiots" but people with a valid position.

Depends. You can be for support of secure borders for a racist reason (I think brown people are inferior and I don't want them in my country), or an econmic reason, or security reasons, or just population reasons. The reason for your support of an issue is independent from your support of the issue. Just saying, "I support secure borders" (which, I feel like, should be the default), tells nothing about one's reason for said support.

Now, if you're on Twitter screaming, "Keep those goddamn beaners outta my 'Murica!!", then we now know your reason. Trump himself has basically said, "These are bad people; we need to keep them out", in so many words. If he just said, "we need to protect our borders because we need to enforce our laws", I think people, myself included, would be fine with it. The delivery, the execution, the message ... all this stuff matters.

The left does what it can to make things racist.

For instance they say "Trump said Mexicans are murderers and criminals." The reference here implies Trump said all Mexicans were a problem when he didn't say that at all. The newest one is White Nationalism. Trump never used such a phrase since he took office. He stated he was a Nationalist, and the left lied (as usual) about what he said. A Nationalist is one who puts the interest of his nations first; a patriot. It's an honorable thing to be a Nationalist.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I don't care about reasons. I want the fucking Wall.


But, the damage he is doing to Political Correctness and your side's, utter sense of entitlement, is something for any Trump supporter to be proud of.

Correll what's gonna be a riot ,watching Trump and his family trying to squirm out of all the shit that will be falling on their heads

Yeah, that's what I heard...................a year and a half ago.

Yeah but that was when your repub friends were hiding investigations Now it's a different game

How could they be hiding anything when it's a special council who hired mostly anti-Trump people to do the investigations?

The HOUSE either hid or PREVENTED investigations Mueller Rosenstein Comey were or are REPUBLICANS

And they are all anti-trumpers. The House has no ability to hide anything from the investigation. They have no ability to prevent investigations.