No, Paedophiles Are Not Homosexual

[miketx]

Salon has run articles on how bad pedophiles feel n stuff when people discriminate against the poor hapless dears. Others just hide the fact faggots harbored pedoes and pretend they never heard of NAMBLA and its ILGA founding membership, and of course the faggots masquerading as 'mental health researchers' can be counted on to produce fake 'science' for their fellow faggots to run around peddling.

So you just post this stuff, making reference to "some articles" but think that you don't have to document it.?? Never mind I know what you're referring to, and I know why you didn't post a link. You didn't because those article don't say what you want them to say and don't support the claims that you people are making

They are talking about removing the stigma of the disease that is pedophilia and are distinguishing the disorder from the crime of child abuse. That is a far cry from stating that there is a "movement to "normalize" or decriminalize child sexual abuse. Th=.e only thing that I can't figure out about you people is if you are really this stupid, or that you are a shameless liar .

Opinion | Pedophilia: A Disorder, Not a Crime

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders defines pedophilia as an intense and recurrent sexual interest in prepubescent children, and a disorder if it causes a person “marked distress or interpersonal difficulty” or if the person acts on his interests. Yet our laws ignore pedophilia until after the commission of a sexual offense, emphasizing punishment, not prevention.

Part of this failure stems from the misconception that pedophilia is the same as child molestation. One can live with pedophilia and not act on it. Sites like Virtuous Pedophiles provide support for pedophiles who do not molest children and believe that sex with children is wrong. It is not that these individuals are “inactive” or “nonpracticing” pedophiles, but rather that pedophilia is a status and not an act. In fact, research shows, about half of all child molesters are not sexually attracted to their victims.

Many of these people are struggling with the disorder, and do not abuse children . Lifting the stigma and allowing them to come out of the shadows so that they can get the help and support that they need can protect children and prevent abuse. You "movement is that of "virtuous pedophiles" who come together to support one another in their quest to not offend.

Should We Lift the Stigma on “Virtuous Pedophiles”?

Ordinarily, when we speak of pedophiles, we tend to refer to those people who not only feel the desire to have sexual relations with minors but who act on that desire as well. The notion of “virtuous pedophiles” might therefore at first glance seem like an oxymoron—there is nothing “virtuous” about sexually preying on defenseless children, and the title might even appear to be trying to justify immoral and harmful conduct (as some pedophile-oriented web sites apparently do). But it is at least conceptually coherent to distinguish between the conduct of pedophilia—acting sexually upon children—and the mere status of pedophilia—experiencing a desire for such sexual activity. While the former can and should be subject to criminal penalties, the latter, if criminalized, would be a sort of “thought crime” that is and should be anathema to our system of justice. So the real question may be this: Do we trust that there truly are “virtuous pedophiles,” this category of those whose conduct does not reflect their status? (And perhaps a close second question would be: Do we believe that all or most of the specific self-proclaimed “virtuous pedophiles” are in reality what they claim to be?).

I'm quite sure that this will have zero effect on you and your moronic minions, because you are either incapable of learning , fearful of facts that undermine what you want to believe.

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And right on cue it goes into 'Pedoes Are Just Misunderstood!!! N Stuff!!!' mode, pulling out silly articles from his fellow Pedo-Friendlies as if we're supposed to beleive a word these sick freaks say about anything. These 'mental health experts' lost an cred they had back in the early 1970's, when they caved in to the Faggot Privilege Movement's Mau-mauing the APA,; they caved only because the faggots threatened to cost their private practices money. Even at that, the faggots of course lie about the real results. Some 5,800 voted to remove faggot tetishists from the mental disorder category, some 3,800 were honest and brave enough to oppose re-classifying the fetish, but some 10,000 refused to vote at all, so barely 25% of the APA membership od some 20,000 voted to remove the sickos from the sicko list. This vote of course makes it very clear that 'science' didn't have a thing to do with re-classifying it.

Nobody with any sanity claims 'decriminalizing' child rape is some sort of societal 'obligation', so we know where you're coming from, sicko boi.

That is quite an unhinged, bizarre and psychotic rant, that fails to deal with the points that I made in my post. Rather you deflect to some crap about homosexuality and how the APA classifies it with some questionable statics that are not sources . Then you reiterate the bold faced lie that we want to "decriminalize child rape" with absolutely no proof or evidence . You are a fucking shameless liar and fraud!

I hope you meet up with a mad dad.

What the fuck is that supposed to mean moron? Are you implying that I condone child sexual a abuse. Please point to something that I posted that supports that claim or shut the fuck up.

It means that I think you are a sick, America hating freak.

 

[miketx]

Yep, and some of them post here, too. they want to 'decriminalize' child rape, so the rapists can remain free and just attend 'self-help groups' or some stupid left wing Burb Brat idea or other. When you can sell sickos who insist on extreme self-mutilation as 'normal' and allowed to run loose even in school restrooms you have a pretty sick society at large.

Who wants to decriminalize child rape jackass!! To suggest that is as fucking stupid as stupid gets!

you do, sick fuck. You run around trying to peddle the myth the demographic that rapes kids at far higher rates per capita than any other on the planet is somehow magically not homosexuals. You have never presented any valid proof otherwise, despite all your noise and advocacy, and besides only you sicko faggots would actually think they had to be 'fair' to kiddie rapers and hold a vote to ban them in the first place. Event hen some 10% of the faggots voted to keep the kiddie rapers on board with your 'movement'; seems they didn't care about the bad press and were fine with having their pedophile founders remain. Know of any other organizations that held votes on whether or not to keep kiddie rapers around? Yeah, nobody else does either.

More horseshit

Horseshit! Try to learn something if you can

Members of disliked minority groups are often stereotyped as representing a danger to the majority's most vulnerable members. For example, Jews in the Middle Ages were accused of murdering Christian babies in ritual sacrifices. Black men in the United States were often lynched after being falsely accused of raping White women. ]

In recent years, antigay activists have routinely asserted that gay people are child molesters. This argument was often made in debates about the Boy Scouts of America's policy to exclude gay scouts and scoutmasters. More recently, in the wake of Rep. Mark Foley's resignation from the US House of Representatives in 2006, antigay activists and their supporters seized on the scandal to revive this canard.

http://psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

Selected Excerpts:

The number of Americans who believe the myth that gay people are child molesters has declined substantially. In a 1970 national survey, more than 70% of respondents agreed with the assertions that "Homosexuals are dangerous as teachers or youth leaders because they try to get sexually involved with children" or that "Homosexuals try to play sexually with children if they cannot get an adult partner."1

By contrast, in a 1999 national poll, the belief that most gay men are likely to molest or abuse children was endorsed by only 19% of heterosexual men and 10% of heterosexual women. Even fewer – 9% of men and 6% of women – regarded most lesbians as child molesters.

Apparently you're a part of the moronic minority( Yes a play on words lifted from the moral majority)

One problem is that none of the studies in this area have obtained data from a probability sample, that is, a sample that can be assumed to be representative of the population of all child molesters. Rather, most research has been conducted only with convicted perpetrators or with pedophiles who sought professional help. Consequently, they may not accurately describe child molesters who have never been caught or have not sought treatment.


A second problem is that the terminology used in this area is often confusing and can even be misleading. We can begin to address that problem by defining some basic terms.

Pedophilia and child molestation are used in different ways, even by professionals. Pedophilia usually refers to an adult psychological disorder characterized by a preference for prepubescent children as sexual partners; this preference may or may not be acted upon. The term hebephilia is sometimes used to describe adult sexual attractions to adolescents or children who have reached puberty.



Child molestation and child sexual abuse refer to actions, and don't imply a particular psychological makeup or motive on the part of the perpetrator. Not all incidents of child sexual abuse are perpetrated by pedophiles or hebephiles; in some cases, the perpetrator has other motives for his or her actions and does not manifest an ongoing pattern of sexual attraction to children.

Thus, not all child sexual abuse is perpetrated by pedophiles (or hebephiles) and not all pedophiles and hebephiles actually commit abuse. Consequently, it is important to use terminology carefully.

Hopefully, you are beginning to see that the issue is a bit more complicated than your small mind is able or willing to contemplate

Another problem related to terminology arises because sexual abuse of male children by adult men2 is often referred to as "homosexual molestation." The adjective "homosexual" (or "heterosexual" when a man abuses a female child) refers to the victim's gender in relation to that of the perpetrator. Unfortunately, people sometimes mistakenly interpret it as referring to the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

Now we are getting to the crux of the issue. Still with me, or are you watching porn and jerking off, rather than trying to learn somthing?

As an expert panel of researchers convened by the National Academy of Sciences noted in a 1993 report: "The distinction between homosexual and heterosexual child molesters relies on the premise that male molesters of male victims are homosexual in orientation. Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however" (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, citation omitted).

To avoid this confusion, it is preferable to refer to men's sexual abuse of boys with the more accurate label of male-male molestation. Similarly, it is preferable to refer to men's abuse of girls as male-female molestation. These labels are more accurate because they describe the sex of the individuals involved but don't implicitly convey unwarranted assumptions about the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

Typologies of
Offenders The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.

lol the freak posts a link to some Rainbow faggot nonsense and expects to be taken seriously. lol lol lol you are indeed an sicko freak, Chester.

There is something seriously wrong with your brain. Are you really that afraid of learning something that might challenge your preconceived ideas. Are you that afraid of actually thinking>? Apparently so.

Your brain:

 

[Crixus]

Far as that go’s, the mods will eat my ass if I open link to the place. MDK has seen it and ill pm a link to anyone who asks, and I’ll also pm a link to the folks who are fighting the normalization of child rape. Capo can use his google button.

Yes, that is the irony; no one can really tell the truth about these vermin without being banged for violations'. If the real truth could be shown without censorship, this entire 'movement' would dead within two weeks.

With the group lobbying to have child molesting made normal, comes an army of lawyers. USMB is rightfully protecting it’s all because that group has a shit ton of money and is backed by allot of politicians both republicans and democrat. I don’t blame admin at all.

Ever think that the USMB might have a problem with your for implying that they are complicit in your imaginary conspiracy bullshit about normalizing child sexual abuse?. You seem to be obsessed about sex and children. Makes me wonder. Just saying , dude.

You forgot to say you are Jewish. Also, I implied no such thing. If you read what I posted you would understand that USMB is smart for not letting it be posted, especially since the group has some mighty legal muscle, and no one wants to get sued into non existence. If I were admin, I would just not allowed stuff that could wreck a pretty good thing . Far as normalizing child abuse, that’s all you. You are the only one still going on about it Capo.

 

[progressive hunter]

I knew an old gay guy that told me hes never met a homo that didnt have a desire to have sex with a young boy

so while not all pedos are gay,,,all gays are pedos

 

[Crixus]

I knew an old gay guy that told me hes never met a homo that didnt have a desire to have sex with a young boy

so while not all pedos are gay,,,all gays are pedos

I wouldn’t go that far. Weird sure, who the hell would find dudes attractive? Meh, don’t care really.

 

[Picaro]

Yep, and some of them post here, too. they want to 'decriminalize' child rape, so the rapists can remain free and just attend 'self-help groups' or some stupid left wing Burb Brat idea or other. When you can sell sickos who insist on extreme self-mutilation as 'normal' and allowed to run loose even in school restrooms you have a pretty sick society at large.

Who wants to decriminalize child rape jackass!! To suggest that is as fucking stupid as stupid gets!

you do, sick fuck. You run around trying to peddle the myth the demographic that rapes kids at far higher rates per capita than any other on the planet is somehow magically not homosexuals. You have never presented any valid proof otherwise, despite all your noise and advocacy, and besides only you sicko faggots would actually think they had to be 'fair' to kiddie rapers and hold a vote to ban them in the first place. Event hen some 10% of the faggots voted to keep the kiddie rapers on board with your 'movement'; seems they didn't care about the bad press and were fine with having their pedophile founders remain. Know of any other organizations that held votes on whether or not to keep kiddie rapers around? Yeah, nobody else does either.

More horseshit

Horseshit! Try to learn something if you can

Members of disliked minority groups are often stereotyped as representing a danger to the majority's most vulnerable members. For example, Jews in the Middle Ages were accused of murdering Christian babies in ritual sacrifices. Black men in the United States were often lynched after being falsely accused of raping White women. ]

In recent years, antigay activists have routinely asserted that gay people are child molesters. This argument was often made in debates about the Boy Scouts of America's policy to exclude gay scouts and scoutmasters. More recently, in the wake of Rep. Mark Foley's resignation from the US House of Representatives in 2006, antigay activists and their supporters seized on the scandal to revive this canard.

http://psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

Selected Excerpts:

The number of Americans who believe the myth that gay people are child molesters has declined substantially. In a 1970 national survey, more than 70% of respondents agreed with the assertions that "Homosexuals are dangerous as teachers or youth leaders because they try to get sexually involved with children" or that "Homosexuals try to play sexually with children if they cannot get an adult partner."1

By contrast, in a 1999 national poll, the belief that most gay men are likely to molest or abuse children was endorsed by only 19% of heterosexual men and 10% of heterosexual women. Even fewer – 9% of men and 6% of women – regarded most lesbians as child molesters.

Apparently you're a part of the moronic minority( Yes a play on words lifted from the moral majority)

One problem is that none of the studies in this area have obtained data from a probability sample, that is, a sample that can be assumed to be representative of the population of all child molesters. Rather, most research has been conducted only with convicted perpetrators or with pedophiles who sought professional help. Consequently, they may not accurately describe child molesters who have never been caught or have not sought treatment.


A second problem is that the terminology used in this area is often confusing and can even be misleading. We can begin to address that problem by defining some basic terms.

Pedophilia and child molestation are used in different ways, even by professionals. Pedophilia usually refers to an adult psychological disorder characterized by a preference for prepubescent children as sexual partners; this preference may or may not be acted upon. The term hebephilia is sometimes used to describe adult sexual attractions to adolescents or children who have reached puberty.



Child molestation and child sexual abuse refer to actions, and don't imply a particular psychological makeup or motive on the part of the perpetrator. Not all incidents of child sexual abuse are perpetrated by pedophiles or hebephiles; in some cases, the perpetrator has other motives for his or her actions and does not manifest an ongoing pattern of sexual attraction to children.

Thus, not all child sexual abuse is perpetrated by pedophiles (or hebephiles) and not all pedophiles and hebephiles actually commit abuse. Consequently, it is important to use terminology carefully.

Hopefully, you are beginning to see that the issue is a bit more complicated than your small mind is able or willing to contemplate

Another problem related to terminology arises because sexual abuse of male children by adult men2 is often referred to as "homosexual molestation." The adjective "homosexual" (or "heterosexual" when a man abuses a female child) refers to the victim's gender in relation to that of the perpetrator. Unfortunately, people sometimes mistakenly interpret it as referring to the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

Now we are getting to the crux of the issue. Still with me, or are you watching porn and jerking off, rather than trying to learn somthing?

As an expert panel of researchers convened by the National Academy of Sciences noted in a 1993 report: "The distinction between homosexual and heterosexual child molesters relies on the premise that male molesters of male victims are homosexual in orientation. Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however" (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, citation omitted).

To avoid this confusion, it is preferable to refer to men's sexual abuse of boys with the more accurate label of male-male molestation. Similarly, it is preferable to refer to men's abuse of girls as male-female molestation. These labels are more accurate because they describe the sex of the individuals involved but don't implicitly convey unwarranted assumptions about the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

Typologies of
Offenders The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.

lol the freak posts a link to some Rainbow faggot nonsense and expects to be taken seriously. lol lol lol you are indeed an sicko freak, Chester.

There is something seriously wrong with your brain. Are you really that afraid of learning something that might challenge your preconceived ideas. Are you that afraid of actually thinking>? Apparently so.

you've offered nothing but a lot of bullshit propaganda from other Pedo-Fans; the 'typologies' of homo kiddie rapers is they very much identify as faggots, and they were doing so when they helped found your Faggot Privilege Movement, and they do indeed prefer male children. Your lying isn't convincing anybody, so you'll just have to fall back on your usual tactics of whining to a mod and getting everybody's posts you don['t like removed, is all. We all know what your are and what you're 'defending here.

 

[Picaro]

I knew an old gay guy that told me hes never met a homo that didnt have a desire to have sex with a young boy

so while not all pedos are gay,,,all gays are pedos

The fag 'culture' is extremely 'youth oriented', and I don't mean college age, either; their Great Martyr Mathew Sheppard has two arrests involving 8 year old boys, which is the reason his parents didn't ask for the death penalty for his fellow faggot dope dealers and orgy buddies; the Defense could have ordered those juvenile files opened up and read at the sentencing hearings if it were a death penalty case. Nearly all of the 'Movement's' leadership has defended the kiddie rapers at one time or another, and also spread the utter bullshit that they aren't 'faggots n stuff'. these 'studies' just started magically popping up after Jess Helms raised a stink about Bill Clinton wanting to sign the ILGA's request for UN NGO status, pointing out that NAMBLA had been a charter member and was still on the organization's boards. Chester here is trying to pass off a few lesbians raising a stink for a year or two being representative of all faggots or something, when in fact they didn't get accomplish much and NAMBLA was never banned from but a couple of them; lesbians don['t really mind in any real numbers when it comes to supporting faggot privileges and don't dare oppose fashion any more than Democrats do. Then banning of NAMBLA only came about because some of the 'activists' want big cushy jobs as UN big shots and it cost the movement some money and 6 figure jobs, is all. As I said, some 10% stilll voted to keep the kiddie rapers around even with the bad press.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I knew an old gay guy that told me hes never met a homo that didnt have a desire to have sex with a young boy

so while not all pedos are gay,,,all gays are pedos

The fag 'culture' is extremely 'youth oriented', and I don't mean college age, either; their Great Martyr Mathew Sheppard has two arrests involving 8 year old boys, which is the reason his parents didn't ask for the death penalty for his fellow faggot dope dealers and orgy buddies; the Defense could have ordered those juvenile files opened up and read at the sentencing hearings if it were a death penalty case. Nearly all of the 'Movement's' leadership has defended the kiddie rapers at one time or another, and also spread the utter bullshit that they aren't 'faggots n stuff'. these 'studies' just started magically popping up after Jess Helms raised a stink about Bill Clinton wanting to sign the ILGA's request for UN NGO status, pointing out that NAMBLA had been a charter member and was still on the organization's boards. Chester here is trying to pass off a few lesbians raising a stink for a year or two being representative of all faggots or something, when in fact they didn't get accomplish much and NAMBLA was never banned from but a couple of them; lesbians don['t really mind in any real numbers when it comes to supporting faggot privileges and don't dare oppose fashion any more than Democrats do. Then banning of NAMBLA only came about because some of the 'activists' want big cushy jobs as UN big shots and it cost the movement some money and 6 figure jobs, is all. As I said, some 10% stilll voted to keep the kiddie rapers around even with the bad press.

Wow, another unhinged psychotic rage rant. Wipe the spit off your chin and get a grip! It must really suck to be you

 

[Crixus]

I knew an old gay guy that told me hes never met a homo that didnt have a desire to have sex with a young boy

so while not all pedos are gay,,,all gays are pedos

The fag 'culture' is extremely 'youth oriented', and I don't mean college age, either; their Great Martyr Mathew Sheppard has two arrests involving 8 year old boys, which is the reason his parents didn't ask for the death penalty for his fellow faggot dope dealers and orgy buddies; the Defense could have ordered those juvenile files opened up and read at the sentencing hearings if it were a death penalty case. Nearly all of the 'Movement's' leadership has defended the kiddie rapers at one time or another, and also spread the utter bullshit that they aren't 'faggots n stuff'. these 'studies' just started magically popping up after Jess Helms raised a stink about Bill Clinton wanting to sign the ILGA's request for UN NGO status, pointing out that NAMBLA had been a charter member and was still on the organization's boards. Chester here is trying to pass off a few lesbians raising a stink for a year or two being representative of all faggots or something, when in fact they didn't get accomplish much and NAMBLA was never banned from but a couple of them; lesbians don['t really mind in any real numbers when it comes to supporting faggot privileges and don't dare oppose fashion any more than Democrats do. Then banning of NAMBLA only came about because some of the 'activists' want big cushy jobs as UN big shots and it cost the movement some money and 6 figure jobs, is all. As I said, some 10% stilll voted to keep the kiddie rapers around even with the bad press.

Wow, another unhinged psychotic rage rant. Wipe the spit off your chin and get a grip! It must really suck to be you

Buuut, you keep coming back.

 

[progressive hunter]

I knew an old gay guy that told me hes never met a homo that didnt have a desire to have sex with a young boy

so while not all pedos are gay,,,all gays are pedos

The fag 'culture' is extremely 'youth oriented', and I don't mean college age, either; their Great Martyr Mathew Sheppard has two arrests involving 8 year old boys, which is the reason his parents didn't ask for the death penalty for his fellow faggot dope dealers and orgy buddies; the Defense could have ordered those juvenile files opened up and read at the sentencing hearings if it were a death penalty case. Nearly all of the 'Movement's' leadership has defended the kiddie rapers at one time or another, and also spread the utter bullshit that they aren't 'faggots n stuff'. these 'studies' just started magically popping up after Jess Helms raised a stink about Bill Clinton wanting to sign the ILGA's request for UN NGO status, pointing out that NAMBLA had been a charter member and was still on the organization's boards. Chester here is trying to pass off a few lesbians raising a stink for a year or two being representative of all faggots or something, when in fact they didn't get accomplish much and NAMBLA was never banned from but a couple of them; lesbians don['t really mind in any real numbers when it comes to supporting faggot privileges and don't dare oppose fashion any more than Democrats do. Then banning of NAMBLA only came about because some of the 'activists' want big cushy jobs as UN big shots and it cost the movement some money and 6 figure jobs, is all. As I said, some 10% stilll voted to keep the kiddie rapers around even with the bad press.

Wow, another unhinged psychotic rage rant. Wipe the spit off your chin and get a grip! It must really suck to be you

if you say so

 

[Cecilie1200]

Okay, let's just clarify here.

Not all pedophiles are homosexual. Obviously, since I believe the majority of child molestation happens against female victims.

Not all homosexuals are pedophiles. Whatever one might think of their mental health in general, I have no problem stipulating that it doesn't automatically translate into criminal behavior, and neither should anyone else.

HOWEVER, I am not for a minute going to accept the absurd notion that an adult man who is sexually attracted to male children is somehow "not really gay" because of the age of his target. I can understand the desire to project the sick and repulsive as far away from yourselves as possible, but every other group of human beings has to accept the existence of bad apples in the barrel, and homosexuals are going to have to accept and deal, too.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Not all pedophiles are homosexual. Obviously, since I believe the majority of child molestation happens against female victims.

Not all homosexuals are pedophiles. Whatever one might think of their mental health in general, I have no problem stipulating that it doesn't automatically translate into criminal behavior, and neither should anyone else.

Well put and more reasonable than I recall you to be

 

[miketx]

Not all pedophiles are homosexual. Obviously, since I believe the majority of child molestation happens against female victims.

Not all homosexuals are pedophiles. Whatever one might think of their mental health in general, I have no problem stipulating that it doesn't automatically translate into criminal behavior, and neither should anyone else.

Well put and more reasonable than I recall you to be

Why did you cut out the last part of the quote? Didn't like that part?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Not all pedophiles are homosexual. Obviously, since I believe the majority of child molestation happens against female victims.

Not all homosexuals are pedophiles. Whatever one might think of their mental health in general, I have no problem stipulating that it doesn't automatically translate into criminal behavior, and neither should anyone else.

Well put and more reasonable than I recall you to be

It's almost as though reasonable isn't defined as "agreeing with what Prog wants to hear".

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

HOWEVER, I am not for a minute going to accept the absurd notion that an adult man who is sexually attracted to male children is somehow "not really gay" because of the age of his target. I can understand the desire to project the sick and repulsive as far away from yourselves as possible, but every other group of human beings has to accept the existence of bad apples in the barrel, and homosexuals are going to have to accept and deal, too.

I will concede that some men who abuse male children are homosexual in that they are primarily attracted to other men. They may, at times, regress under stress, as heterosexuals sometimes do as well, and target a child.

However, many men who abuse children are fixated on a certain age group and are often in discriminant as to gender

If a man is incapable of having age appropriate relations, I am loath to call him "homosexual" because every time someone like that offends, the whole gay community gets smeared and the bigots are quick to scream that this is another example homosexual sex abuse, skewing the statistics and making it look that gays are more likely to victimize children.

Motive should also be considered. Some sexual abuse is perpetrated so that the abuser can feel power that he may lake otherwise. It may not be out of sexual attraction at all.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Not all pedophiles are homosexual. Obviously, since I believe the majority of child molestation happens against female victims.

Not all homosexuals are pedophiles. Whatever one might think of their mental health in general, I have no problem stipulating that it doesn't automatically translate into criminal behavior, and neither should anyone else.

Well put and more reasonable than I recall you to be

Why did you cut out the last part of the quote? Didn't like that part?

It wasn't "reasonable", ie. it didn't agree with his worldview.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Not all pedophiles are homosexual. Obviously, since I believe the majority of child molestation happens against female victims.

Not all homosexuals are pedophiles. Whatever one might think of their mental health in general, I have no problem stipulating that it doesn't automatically translate into criminal behavior, and neither should anyone else.

Well put and more reasonable than I recall you to be

Why did you cut out the last part of the quote? Didn't like that part?

See post 375. I responded to it separately

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Not all pedophiles are homosexual. Obviously, since I believe the majority of child molestation happens against female victims.

Not all homosexuals are pedophiles. Whatever one might think of their mental health in general, I have no problem stipulating that it doesn't automatically translate into criminal behavior, and neither should anyone else.

Well put and more reasonable than I recall you to be

It's almost as though reasonable isn't defined as "agreeing with what Prog wants to hear".

Oh Christ already. Aren't touchy ! I agree

 

[Cecilie1200]

HOWEVER, I am not for a minute going to accept the absurd notion that an adult man who is sexually attracted to male children is somehow "not really gay" because of the age of his target. I can understand the desire to project the sick and repulsive as far away from yourselves as possible, but every other group of human beings has to accept the existence of bad apples in the barrel, and homosexuals are going to have to accept and deal, too.

I will concede that some men who abuse male children are homosexual in that they are primarily attracted to other men. They may, at times, regress under stress, as heterosexuals sometimes do as well, and target a child.

However, many men who abuse children are fixated on a certain age group and are often in discriminant as to gender

If a man is incapable of having age appropriate relations, I am loath to call him "homosexual" because every time someone like that offends, the whole gay community gets smeared and the bigots are quick to scream that this is another example homosexual sex abuse, skewing the statistics and making it look that gays are more likely to victimize children.

Motive should also be considered. Some sexual abuse is perpetrated so that the abuser can feel power that he may lake otherwise. It may not be out of sexual attraction at all.

What do child molesters who molest both sexes have to do with anything? The existence of other orientations in child molesters doesn't negate the fact that those who are sexually attracted to their own gender are, by definition, homosexual. Likewise, digressing onto, "Well, but there are child abusers who aren't sexually attracted to them" begs the question, "What the hell does that have to do with anything?" Does that somehow negate the existence of those who ARE?

As for whether or not you'd rather lie in order to get the results you prefer because you don't like the truth . . . welcome to adulthood, where you have to face the fact that reality doesn't change according to your preference.

 

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Not all pedophiles are homosexual. Obviously, since I believe the majority of child molestation happens against female victims.

Not all homosexuals are pedophiles. Whatever one might think of their mental health in general, I have no problem stipulating that it doesn't automatically translate into criminal behavior, and neither should anyone else.

Well put and more reasonable than I recall you to be

It's almost as though reasonable isn't defined as "agreeing with what Prog wants to hear".

Oh Christ already. Aren't touchy ! I agree

Next time, try doing it without the snotty attempts at condescension.