No Collusion?

[tycho1572]

ahhhhh

so Trump now controls electric bills .....

He is God you know.

My electric bill went down quite a bit obamas last year and has stayed there. I believe they said when gas went down under Obama that a President has nothing to with that if that is so then trump has nothing to do with it.

Gas and electric went down under obama? Wtf? lol

 

[tycho1572]

Do you have a car and job, debbiedowner?

 

[dudmuck]

Lets see what Mueller has. All we have now is conjecture.

And dozens of indictments and felony convictions.

That’s all we’ve got.

Hardly anything at all.

What do you have on Trump? Nothing but bullshit so far.

Then you could explain why Giuliani is now saying there was collusion.

It depends what you call collusion. If Manafort did things on his own like Cohen then don't blame Trump. Don't forget, the only 2016 candidate that colluded with Russia so far is Hillary, who paid $1.1m for the Steele Dossier.

p.s. Rudy isn't saying that there was collusion, just that Trump wasn't involved.

so if Manafort and Steele did things on their own, then Steele did things on his own also?
There is no way the Kremlin would ever help Hillary for any amount of money. Steele's sources were anti Putin russians.

 

[Muhammed]

Lets see what Mueller has. All we have now is conjecture.

All they have is the very waaay the fuck out there in left field TrumPutin conspiracy theory that Trump somehow forced Putin to hack the DNC emails which proved that Clinton won the Democratic primary via malfeasance.

 

[dudmuck]

Lets see what Mueller has. All we have now is conjecture.

All they have is the very waaay the fuck out there in left field TrumPutin conspiracy theory that Trump somehow forced Putin to hack the DNC emails which proved that Clinton won the Democratic primary via malfeasance.

It was Guccifer 2.0 that hacked the DNC.

 

[Defiant1]

Lets see what Mueller has. All we have now is conjecture.

All they have is the very waaay the fuck out there in left field TrumPutin conspiracy theory that Trump somehow forced Putin to hack the DNC emails which proved that Clinton won the Democratic primary via malfeasance.

It was Guccifer 2.0 that hacked the DNC.

Or the INSIDE hackers left Guccifer's footprints.

 

[debbiedowner]

Do you have a car and job, debbiedowner?

Yea, other than two months after I got out of military in 1971 I have been working no doubt longer than you've had that fucking big mouth of yours. I have 3 cars loser. Oh and I'm still working.

 

[debbiedowner]

ahhhhh

so Trump now controls electric bills .....

He is God you know.

My electric bill went down quite a bit obamas last year and has stayed there. I believe they said when gas went down under Obama that a President has nothing to with that if that is so then trump has nothing to do with it.

Gas and electric went down under obama? Wtf? lol

Yes, where I live gas and electric did go down, in fact gas went down for a while across the US under obama. You know that just proves you are some punk kid.

 

[Lesh]

On his way out, Trump will have to issue blanket pardons to himself and his whole family

Like Bar Recommended with Iran Contra last time he was AG?

 

[Lesh]

It was Guccifer 2.0 that hacked the DNC.

Guccifer 2.0 was Russian GRU...military intel

 

[Thinker101]

Do you have a car and job, debbiedowner?

Yea, other than two months after I got out of military in 1971 I have been working no doubt longer than you've had that fucking big mouth of yours. I have 3 cars loser. Oh and I'm still working.

Good for you. You keep that 82 Ford pinto clean, it could be worth big buck some day.

 

[kyzr]

Lets see what Mueller has. All we have now is conjecture.

And dozens of indictments and felony convictions.

That’s all we’ve got.

Hardly anything at all.

What do you have on Trump? Nothing but bullshit so far.

Then you could explain why Giuliani is now saying there was collusion.

It depends what you call collusion. If Manafort did things on his own like Cohen then don't blame Trump. Don't forget, the only 2016 candidate that colluded with Russia so far is Hillary, who paid $1.1m for the Steele Dossier.

p.s. Rudy isn't saying that there was collusion, just that Trump wasn't involved.

so if Manafort and Steele did things on their own, then Steele did things on his own also?
There is no way the Kremlin would ever help Hillary for any amount of money. Steele's sources were anti Putin russians.

You got a link for that claim? p.s. The Russians DID help Hillary. they gave her the Steele Dossier, there are no anti-Putin Russians, those are called dead Russians.

 

[Lesh]

For years Manafort worked as a political operator in Ukraine

Pro Russian Ukrainians...who got kicked out and are now hiding in Moscow

 

[dudmuck]

And dozens of indictments and felony convictions.

That’s all we’ve got.

Hardly anything at all.

What do you have on Trump? Nothing but bullshit so far.

Then you could explain why Giuliani is now saying there was collusion.

It depends what you call collusion. If Manafort did things on his own like Cohen then don't blame Trump. Don't forget, the only 2016 candidate that colluded with Russia so far is Hillary, who paid $1.1m for the Steele Dossier.

p.s. Rudy isn't saying that there was collusion, just that Trump wasn't involved.

so if Manafort and Steele did things on their own, then Steele did things on his own also?
There is no way the Kremlin would ever help Hillary for any amount of money. Steele's sources were anti Putin russians.

You got a link for that claim? p.s. The Russians DID help Hillary. they gave her the Steele Dossier, there are no anti-Putin Russians, those are called dead Russians.

An example is Skripal who they tried to kill.
But there are plenty of anti-putin russians, approval rate dropping. Gary Kasparov is the most famous anti putin russian.

 

[Muhammed]

For years Manafort worked as a political operator in Ukraine

Pro Russian Ukrainians...who got kicked out and are now hiding in Moscow

It's called a violent coup against the democratically elected government of Ukraine. Podesta worked for the opposition party that illegally seized power. He did the exact same thing that Manafort was prosecuted for.

Podesta should be prosecuted by Mueller to avoid the appearance of blatant partisanship.

 

[kyzr]

What do you have on Trump? Nothing but bullshit so far.

Then you could explain why Giuliani is now saying there was collusion.

It depends what you call collusion. If Manafort did things on his own like Cohen then don't blame Trump. Don't forget, the only 2016 candidate that colluded with Russia so far is Hillary, who paid $1.1m for the Steele Dossier.

p.s. Rudy isn't saying that there was collusion, just that Trump wasn't involved.

so if Manafort and Steele did things on their own, then Steele did things on his own also?
There is no way the Kremlin would ever help Hillary for any amount of money. Steele's sources were anti Putin russians.

You got a link for that claim? p.s. The Russians DID help Hillary. they gave her the Steele Dossier, there are no anti-Putin Russians, those are called dead Russians.

An example is Skripal who they tried to kill.
But there are plenty of anti-putin russians, approval rate dropping. Gary Kasparov is the most famous anti putin russian.

True, but Garry lives in NYC. There is no proof that the Steele Dossier was not an FSB operation, none. The whole point of spies like Steele is to get inside Putin's Russia, not just the opposition.

 

[Lesh]

For years Manafort worked as a political operator in Ukraine

Pro Russian Ukrainians...who got kicked out and are now hiding in Moscow

It's called a violent coup against the democratically elected government of Ukraine. Podesta worked for the opposition party that illegally seized power. He did the exact same thing that Manafort was prosecuted for.

Podesta should be prosecuted by Mueller to avoid the appearance of blatant partisanship.

Yea...that's the Kremlin line

 

[Muhammed]

For years Manafort worked as a political operator in Ukraine

Pro Russian Ukrainians...who got kicked out and are now hiding in Moscow

It's called a violent coup against the democratically elected government of Ukraine. Podesta worked for the opposition party that illegally seized power. He did the exact same thing that Manafort was prosecuted for.

Podesta should be prosecuted by Mueller to avoid the appearance of blatant partisanship.

Yea...that's the Kremlin line

That isn't anybody's "line" it's exactly what happened. The plain, simple truth. There was also Obama/Clinton backed coups against democratically elected secular governments in Egypt, Libya and Syria. Not to mention the failed coup attempt in the USA which, when exposed by wikileaks, forced DWS to resign as chair of the DNC.

 

[sealybobo]

Rudy Ghouliani went on TV and admitted that there had been collusion in the Trump campaign.

He claims that Trump just didn't know about it.

So much for "no collusion" huh?

The question is...why did he do that?

Is something coming out from Mueller?

Charges against Trump's son? His son in law?

We live in interesting times

“I can only tell you one thing: Again that was proven today, no collusion,” Trump declared, repeating “no collusion” multiple times.

However, the judge in the District of Columbia said no such thing. “The ‘no collusion’ mantra is simply a non sequitur,” she said, adding that “the investigation is still ongoing.”

 

[sealybobo]

New York Prosecutors Are Coming for Trump’s Associates
The state indictment of Paul Manafort — right after his federal sentencing — signals trouble for the president.

The indictment of Paul Manafort by New York state prosecutors on Wednesday is a shot across the bow of the presidency — a warning and possible harbinger of future prosecutions of Donald Trump’s associates, children and even the man himself by the state.



Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. strongly implied the purpose of the prosecution: It was undertaken to ensure that Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman, would serve prison time even if the president were to pardon him of the federal charges to which he has now been convicted. “No one is beyond the law in New York,” Vance said in a news release announcing the indictment.



The timing was directly coordinated with Manafort’s second federal sentencing, in which a judge in Washington increased his prison time to seven-and-a-half years. That’s another indication that Vance wants to use the power of New York State to address a matter that has already been addressed by federal prosecutors.



Until now, there’s been lots of speculation about whether state officials would use criminal law to go where federal charges and investigations might not go, or where they might be thwarted.



The Manafort state indictment moves us from the realm of speculation to the realm of concrete reality. New York’s assault on the Trump presidency is underway.

Under ordinary circumstances, the prosecution of Manafort for, essentially, lying on his mortgage application, would be highly unusual.