New WSJ/NBC poll - Donald losing more ground

[NotfooledbyW]

NotfooledbyW, post: 19786969

It is not true. Obama never encouraged illegals to vote. He actually said noncitizen voting would be illegal.

So, Markle, what!'s funny about what I posted there,

That is actually what President Obama's message was to his audience. I mean if you go by what was actually said, What is funny about understanding English as written,

Markle, post: 19813744

Failed former President Barack Hussein Obama could not be more clear that he is encouraging illegal aliens to vote because they could not be caught.

Just provide the transcript instead of voting "funny" all over the place.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Markle, post: 19813773

Apparently, you are totally unaware of what was said by the Democrats at the very same time.

Do you wish to delete this post that proves exactly how ignorant and clueless you are.

Bush lied, according to Trumpo, and invaded Iraq two days after he told a very specific lie on March 17, 2003 about WMD being in Iraq.

Real crunch time - March 2003,

Yet you post a plethora of quotes by Democrats mostly dating back to 1998 through October 2002. That is the period of time that UN inspectors were precluded from completing their mission inside the borders of Iraq.

But to prove you are ignorant you accompanied those quotes with this;

"......was said by the Democrats at the "very same time" Markle, post: 19813773.

So please do explain genius that the "very same time" in your mind includes a four year span of time when nothing happens that fluidly impacts geopolitical events and world leader's decisions, including the 9/11 terrorist attacks in 2000 and UN inspectors returning to Iraq in December 2002.

That was all the "very same time" to you.

Forgive me for not being aware that you think 1998 quotes took place in 2003.

I'm aware that you are irrational and incoherent. Does that count?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

"We should have never been in Iraq. They lied, they said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none and they knew that there were none." TRUMPO

Markle, post: 19813773

......after Sadam Hussein had nearly two years to move those weapons into Syria,

Not even birther and "deep state" conspiracy theorist Trumpo believes that whopper about WMD being shipped from Iraq to Syria undetected.

Bush lied as he announced the US invasion into Iraq.

Your most incredible, intelligent all knowing leader tells you all about Bush and his WMD lies.


"Donald Trump attacked the Bush family during the Republican presidential debate Saturday night, accusing the George W. Bush administration of lying to the public before going to war in Iraq.

"Obviously the war in Iraq was a big, fat mistake," Trump said, launching into a fierce critique of rival Jeb Bush's brother.

"George Bush made a mistake," the billionaire continued. "Obviously we can make mistakes, but that one was a beauty."

"We should have never been in Iraq," Trump added. "They lied, they said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none and they knew that there were none.""

Trump on Bush going into Iraq: 'They lied'

They knew there were nine.

 

[PoliticalChic]

PoliticalChic, post: 19807984

Now, if she were speaking of a legal citizen....there would be no reason to suggest anyone 'would come for them.'

You are simply mentally retarded. She was speaking of herself as a legal citizen. That is what the word 'I' means when she said if "I" vote. There is no other meaning. There are surefire reasons that a legal voter living with relatives that are here illegally would have those family members be unjustifiably fearful if she or he registers and votes.

It is a valid concept only a mentally retarded person could not get. Unjustified Fear. It freakin exists. Republicans suffer from it every minute they are awake. And probably dream in unjustified fear.

You see Obama was explaining exactly that.

Those unjustified fears should go away. There is no reason for it.

Knocking down unjustified fear of being close to legal citizens who vote was a major theme of Gina and Obama's exchange.

If you are too retarded to understand this, Check yourself into a safe house.

That's a lie.

She said she was speaking for "undocumented citizens"....a syncretic term if ever there was one.

 

[Roudy]

eah but but but they're Democrats,

Most your quotes are in 1998. A few are in January 2003. The UN inspectors were only a month into their work.

Bush decided to invade in March 2003. You hsve no quotes around the time that Bush lied to invade. Not a one.

That's because Democrats and 2/3 of Americans wanted Bush to give the inspectors more time.

Most important point. Trumpo agrees that Bysh lied about WMD. He's a Republican you moron. You probably voted for him you moron.

Yet you lay Bush, the lying decider's deciision to invade Iraq in Democrats. You are a moron. There is no other explanation.

Trumpo has ruined your goofy assed argument forever. Bush lied and look what it cost Americans when you come out of your stupor.

As dumb as Trumpo is, he knows Bush lied and he is as Republican as idiot Republucsns can get.

And yet, Trump has decimated the ISIS that Obama created, is making NATO pay their fair share for US protection, and about create an historic peace and denuclearization treaty in the Korean Peninsula. All in about a year and a half. If anybody is up for the Nobel Peace Prize it would be Trump.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

And yet, Trump has decimated the ISIS that Obama created

More lies. ISIS was on the verge of collapse in Iraq and Syria long before Trump arrived. . Obama policy was put the Iraqis and Syrians on the ground in the front lines keeping our troops in the sky and behind the front lines. Keeping them alive. Trump didn't change any of that. The Obama coalition defeated ISIS in Mosul within months of Trumpo taking over. But ISIS pushed into Mosul and it was basically their last stand in IRAQ. Trumpo had nothing to do with presiding the Iraqi Army for that final battle.nithing at all.


And you lie about who invaded Iraq and laid the groundwork for ISIS.

Just ask Trumpo again.

“Say what you want, but then we went out and attacked the wrong country, Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, we destabilized the Middle East… the Middle East is a mess right now because we destabilized Iraq.” — Donald Trump.

Trump Blames Iraq Invasion For Middle Eastern Chaos | Conservative Book Club

Obama said before it happened invading Iraq would be dumb. he was right. How can you blame Obama when your Trumpo agrees that Obama was right?

If Saddam Hussein were left in power having no weapons of nass destruction certified by the UN, there would be no ISIS. There would be no destabilized Middle East.

How can Trumpo make American Great again if dumbasses like you won't listen to all that Bush did wrong according to Trumpo, ... the lying, the stupid invasion.

 

[Roudy]

And yet, Trump has decimated the ISIS that Obama created

More lies. ISIS was on the verge of collapse in Iraq and Syria long before Trump arrived. . Obama policy was put the Iraqis and Syrians on the ground in the front lines keeping our troops in the sky and behind the front lines. Keeping them alive. Trump didn't change any of that. The Obama coalition defeated ISIS in Mosul within months of Trumpo taking over. But ISIS pushed into Mosul and it was basically their last stand in IRAQ. Trumpo had nothing to do with presiding the Iraqi Army for that final battle.nithing at all.


And you lie about who invaded Iraq and laid the groundwork for ISIS.

Just ask Trumpo again.

“Say what you want, but then we went out and attacked the wrong country, Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, we destabilized the Middle East… the Middle East is a mess right now because we destabilized Iraq.” — Donald Trump.

Trump Blames Iraq Invasion For Middle Eastern Chaos | Conservative Book Club

Obama said before it happened invading Iraq would be dumb. he was right. How can you blame Obama when your Trumpo agrees that Obama was right?

If Saddam Hussein were left in power having no weapons of nass destruction certified by the UN, there would be no ISIS. There would be no destabilized Middle East.

How can Trumpo make American Great again if dumbasses like you won't listen to all that Bush did wrong according to Trumpo, ... the lying, the stupid invasion.

Yeah rrrrright. "ISIS was in the verge of collapse" ha ha ha! Exactly which alternate universe do you live on?!

Was that before or after Obama drew his famous red line with that invisible ink for Assad? You realize that Obama threw his actions in Syria has the blood of over half a million Syrians, plus millions of refugees fleeing into ME and of course Europe, on his hands?

That piece of shit Obama was probably the worst president in modern history, but of course the crooked corrupt media will NEVER tell the truth about him.

 

[Faun]

PoliticalChic, post: 19807984

Now, if she were speaking of a legal citizen....there would be no reason to suggest anyone 'would come for them.'

You are simply mentally retarded. She was speaking of herself as a legal citizen. That is what the word 'I' means when she said if "I" vote. There is no other meaning. There are surefire reasons that a legal voter living with relatives that are here illegally would have those family members be unjustifiably fearful if she or he registers and votes.

It is a valid concept only a mentally retarded person could not get. Unjustified Fear. It freakin exists. Republicans suffer from it every minute they are awake. And probably dream in unjustified fear.

You see Obama was explaining exactly that.

Those unjustified fears should go away. There is no reason for it.

Knocking down unjustified fear of being close to legal citizens who vote was a major theme of Gina and Obama's exchange.

If you are too retarded to understand this, Check yourself into a safe house.

That's a lie.

She said she was speaking for "undocumented citizens"....a syncretic term if ever there was one.

Liar. She asked, ”So when I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for me and my family and deport us?”

She was talking about herself. You surrender your bullshit claims when you have to lie like that to prop them up.

 

[PredFan]

And if you go to the poll itself - You'll not that the "strongly approve" number is 22% and "strongly disapprove" is double that at 44. Sad

President Trump’s job approval rating slipped 4 points in a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

Thirty-nine percent of respondents now approve of the job the president is doing, compared to 57 percent who disapprove.

Trump's support fell among Republicans, whites, men, independents, women and Democrats.​

Trump job approval slips 4 points to 39 percent in NBC poll

Yup, he has no path to victory.

 

[Faun]

eah but but but they're Democrats,

Most your quotes are in 1998. A few are in January 2003. The UN inspectors were only a month into their work.

Bush decided to invade in March 2003. You hsve no quotes around the time that Bush lied to invade. Not a one.

That's because Democrats and 2/3 of Americans wanted Bush to give the inspectors more time.

Most important point. Trumpo agrees that Bysh lied about WMD. He's a Republican you moron. You probably voted for him you moron.

Yet you lay Bush, the lying decider's deciision to invade Iraq in Democrats. You are a moron. There is no other explanation.

Trumpo has ruined your goofy assed argument forever. Bush lied and look what it cost Americans when you come out of your stupor.

As dumb as Trumpo is, he knows Bush lied and he is as Republican as idiot Republucsns can get.

And yet, Trump has decimated the ISIS that Obama created, is making NATO pay their fair share for US protection, and about create an historic peace and denuclearization treaty in the Korean Peninsula. All in about a year and a half. If anybody is up for the Nobel Peace Prize it would be Trump.

ISIS formed in 2006. How did Obama create them? He was a senator.

 

[Roudy]

eah but but but they're Democrats,

Most your quotes are in 1998. A few are in January 2003. The UN inspectors were only a month into their work.

Bush decided to invade in March 2003. You hsve no quotes around the time that Bush lied to invade. Not a one.

That's because Democrats and 2/3 of Americans wanted Bush to give the inspectors more time.

Most important point. Trumpo agrees that Bysh lied about WMD. He's a Republican you moron. You probably voted for him you moron.

Yet you lay Bush, the lying decider's deciision to invade Iraq in Democrats. You are a moron. There is no other explanation.

Trumpo has ruined your goofy assed argument forever. Bush lied and look what it cost Americans when you come out of your stupor.

As dumb as Trumpo is, he knows Bush lied and he is as Republican as idiot Republucsns can get.

And yet, Trump has decimated the ISIS that Obama created, is making NATO pay their fair share for US protection, and about create an historic peace and denuclearization treaty in the Korean Peninsula. All in about a year and a half. If anybody is up for the Nobel Peace Prize it would be Trump.

ISIS formed in 2006. How did Obama create them? He was a senator.

He pulled out of Iraq too early while losing areas that Americans had lost their lives capturing from terrorists, then stood by while Asad was committing mass genocide on his people using chemical weapons in many cases, doing absolutely nothing about it, while drawing red lines he never intended to enforce. He called ISIS a JV team as Syrians looking for refuge from Assad flocked to ISIS, while Muslims from all over the world joined ISIS that was capturing large swaths of Syrian and Iraqi territory, including many oil rich areas. And then the emboldened ISIS started exporting their barbarism to the streets of major Western capitals.

Doy! That was easy.

Yet another Obama masterpiece. In essence the most incompetent, inept president we've had.

Yet the crooked, corrupt media kept giving him pass after pass.

 

[Faun]

eah but but but they're Democrats,

Most your quotes are in 1998. A few are in January 2003. The UN inspectors were only a month into their work.

Bush decided to invade in March 2003. You hsve no quotes around the time that Bush lied to invade. Not a one.

That's because Democrats and 2/3 of Americans wanted Bush to give the inspectors more time.

Most important point. Trumpo agrees that Bysh lied about WMD. He's a Republican you moron. You probably voted for him you moron.

Yet you lay Bush, the lying decider's deciision to invade Iraq in Democrats. You are a moron. There is no other explanation.

Trumpo has ruined your goofy assed argument forever. Bush lied and look what it cost Americans when you come out of your stupor.

As dumb as Trumpo is, he knows Bush lied and he is as Republican as idiot Republucsns can get.

And yet, Trump has decimated the ISIS that Obama created, is making NATO pay their fair share for US protection, and about create an historic peace and denuclearization treaty in the Korean Peninsula. All in about a year and a half. If anybody is up for the Nobel Peace Prize it would be Trump.

ISIS formed in 2006. How did Obama create them? He was a senator.

He pulled out of Iraq too early while losing areas that Americans had lost their lives capturing from terrorists, then stood by while Asad was committing genocide on his people,mooing absolutely nothing about it, called ISIS a JV team as Syrians looking for refuge from Assad flocked to Assad, while Muslims from all over the world flocked to join ISIS that was capturing large swaths of Syrian and Iraqi territory, including many oil rich areas. And then the emboldened ISIS terrorists exported their barbarism to the streets of major Western capitals.

Yet another Obama masterpiece. In essence the most incompetent, inept president we've had.

Yet the crooked, corrupt media kept giving him pass after pass.

He actually pulled out according to Bush’s timetable for withdrawal; and again.... ISIS formed years before Obama became president.

 

[Roudy]

eah but but but they're Democrats,

Most your quotes are in 1998. A few are in January 2003. The UN inspectors were only a month into their work.

Bush decided to invade in March 2003. You hsve no quotes around the time that Bush lied to invade. Not a one.

That's because Democrats and 2/3 of Americans wanted Bush to give the inspectors more time.

Most important point. Trumpo agrees that Bysh lied about WMD. He's a Republican you moron. You probably voted for him you moron.

Yet you lay Bush, the lying decider's deciision to invade Iraq in Democrats. You are a moron. There is no other explanation.

Trumpo has ruined your goofy assed argument forever. Bush lied and look what it cost Americans when you come out of your stupor.

As dumb as Trumpo is, he knows Bush lied and he is as Republican as idiot Republucsns can get.

And yet, Trump has decimated the ISIS that Obama created, is making NATO pay their fair share for US protection, and about create an historic peace and denuclearization treaty in the Korean Peninsula. All in about a year and a half. If anybody is up for the Nobel Peace Prize it would be Trump.

ISIS formed in 2006. How did Obama create them? He was a senator.

He pulled out of Iraq too early while losing areas that Americans had lost their lives capturing from terrorists, then stood by while Asad was committing genocide on his people,mooing absolutely nothing about it, called ISIS a JV team as Syrians looking for refuge from Assad flocked to Assad, while Muslims from all over the world flocked to join ISIS that was capturing large swaths of Syrian and Iraqi territory, including many oil rich areas. And then the emboldened ISIS terrorists exported their barbarism to the streets of major Western capitals.

Yet another Obama masterpiece. In essence the most incompetent, inept president we've had.

Yet the crooked, corrupt media kept giving him pass after pass.

He actually pulled out according to Bush’s timetable for withdrawal; and again.... ISIS formed years before Obama became president.

No, the piece of shit intentionally walked out of the negotiations to keep the troops in Iraq, against the military's advice, causing cities like Falluja which many Americans had lost their lives to capture to fall back in the hands of terrorists. In essence pissing their lives away.

Leftards are usually ignorant of history if not engaging in delusional revisionism. Not even the Democrats themselves will say that Obama handled the rise of ISIS and Syrian genocide well.

 

[Faun]

Most your quotes are in 1998. A few are in January 2003. The UN inspectors were only a month into their work.

Bush decided to invade in March 2003. You hsve no quotes around the time that Bush lied to invade. Not a one.

That's because Democrats and 2/3 of Americans wanted Bush to give the inspectors more time.

Most important point. Trumpo agrees that Bysh lied about WMD. He's a Republican you moron. You probably voted for him you moron.

Yet you lay Bush, the lying decider's deciision to invade Iraq in Democrats. You are a moron. There is no other explanation.

Trumpo has ruined your goofy assed argument forever. Bush lied and look what it cost Americans when you come out of your stupor.

As dumb as Trumpo is, he knows Bush lied and he is as Republican as idiot Republucsns can get.

And yet, Trump has decimated the ISIS that Obama created, is making NATO pay their fair share for US protection, and about create an historic peace and denuclearization treaty in the Korean Peninsula. All in about a year and a half. If anybody is up for the Nobel Peace Prize it would be Trump.

ISIS formed in 2006. How did Obama create them? He was a senator.

He pulled out of Iraq too early while losing areas that Americans had lost their lives capturing from terrorists, then stood by while Asad was committing genocide on his people,mooing absolutely nothing about it, called ISIS a JV team as Syrians looking for refuge from Assad flocked to Assad, while Muslims from all over the world flocked to join ISIS that was capturing large swaths of Syrian and Iraqi territory, including many oil rich areas. And then the emboldened ISIS terrorists exported their barbarism to the streets of major Western capitals.

Yet another Obama masterpiece. In essence the most incompetent, inept president we've had.

Yet the crooked, corrupt media kept giving him pass after pass.

He actually pulled out according to Bush’s timetable for withdrawal; and again.... ISIS formed years before Obama became president.

No, the piece of shit intentionally walked out of the negotiations to keep the troops in Iraq, against the military's advice, causing cities like Falluja which many Americans had lost their lives to capture to fall back in the hands of terrorists. In essence pissing their lives away.

Leftards are usually ignorant of history if not engaging in delusional revisionism. Not even the Democrats themselves will say that Obama handled the rise of ISIS and Syrian genocide well.

Moron, the negotiations over withdrawing our troops from Iraq were completed in December, 2008, before Obama became president.

And again... ISIS was formed before Obama became president. You appear to be a craven nut claiming Obama created a terrorist group which actually formed while Bush, who gave the go ahead to turn Iraq into a terrorist breeding ground, was president.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

PoliticalChic, post: 19814805

She said she was speaking for "undocumented citizens"....a syncretic term if ever there was one.

So she was. The untruth you keep repeating is that she was speaking for some nefarious plot between herself and Obama to encourage undocumented citizens to lie on a registration form that they are not undocumented citizens but legal citizens, and then vote.

Nothing that was said by Gina and Obama gets you to your conspiracy theory, "syncretic term" or not.

Put in simpler terms. You are lying.

 

[PoliticalChic]

PoliticalChic, post: 19814805

She said she was speaking for "undocumented citizens"....a syncretic term if ever there was one.

So she was. The untruth you keep repeating is that she was speaking for some nefarious plot between herself and Obama to encourage undocumented citizens to lie on a registration form that they are not undocumented citizens but legal citizens, and then vote.

Nothing that was said by Gina and Obama gets you to your conspiracy theory, "syncretic term" or not.

Put in simpler terms. You are lying.

Good to see I've forced you to admit your earlier lie.

 

[Faun]

PoliticalChic, post: 19814805

She said she was speaking for "undocumented citizens"....a syncretic term if ever there was one.

So she was. The untruth you keep repeating is that she was speaking for some nefarious plot between herself and Obama to encourage undocumented citizens to lie on a registration form that they are not undocumented citizens but legal citizens, and then vote.

Nothing that was said by Gina and Obama gets you to your conspiracy theory, "syncretic term" or not.

Put in simpler terms. You are lying.

PoliticalHack's claims make even less sense when you consider that Obama interview was released just days before the election, when it was too late for unregistered voters to register for the 2016 election. Then factor in how illegals can't register to vote, and she appears even more hysterical than she already sounds.

 

[JimH52]

And if you go to the poll itself - You'll not that the "strongly approve" number is 22% and "strongly disapprove" is double that at 44. Sad

President Trump’s job approval rating slipped 4 points in a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

Thirty-nine percent of respondents now approve of the job the president is doing, compared to 57 percent who disapprove.

Trump's support fell among Republicans, whites, men, independents, women and Democrats.​

Trump job approval slips 4 points to 39 percent in NBC poll

Just goes to prove....38% of Americans live in a different universe....

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Roudy, post: 19816031,

ISIS was in the verge of collapse" ha ha ha! Exactly which alternate universe do you live on?!

So does Trumpo get credit for the situation in January 2017?

The US-led coalition say ISIS has lost 27% of its territory in Syria -- and 61% in Iraq -- from its peak.

As Donald Trump takes over, a diminished ISIS awaits - CNN


The Iraqi and Kurdish peshmerga forces launched their offensive on the eastern half of the city on Oct. 17, 2016, pushing in from Mosul’s north, east and south under heavy resistance. The peshmerga moved out from their long-held defensive positions near Mosul's periphery and helped establish a cordon near the city's suburbs. From there, Iraqi forces began pushing into the city's eastern reaches.

By Nov. 1, Iraq’s elite counterterrorism service had captured a strategically important television station in eastern Mosul and the coalition had a strong foothold in the city.

Washington Post: Breaking News, World, US, DC News & Analysis

Mosul fell in July. Trump didn't fuck it up, he gets credit for that,

 

[NotfooledbyW]

PoliticalChic, post: 19814805

She said she was speaking for "undocumented citizens"....a syncretic term if ever there was one.

So she was. The untruth you keep repeating is that she was speaking for some nefarious plot between herself and Obama to encourage undocumented citizens to lie on a registration form that they are not undocumented citizens but legal citizens, and then vote.

Nothing that was said by Gina and Obama gets you to your conspiracy theory, "syncretic term" or not.

Put in simpler terms. You are lying.

PoliticalHack's claims make even less sense when you consider that Obama interview was released just days before the election, when it was too late for unregistered voters to register for the 2016 election. Then factor in how illegals can't register to vote, and she appears even more hysterical than she already sounds.

That is so true. So the only impact Obama could have achieved was to get legal voters out to vote just like he said.

Pathetic conspiracy theory PC has going here.