New Testament on the practice of Homosexuality

[theHawk]

All depends on how the greek word effeminate is translated, which is said once in the NT and of course never by Jesus.

It is shocking the ratio of how much fundies care about homosexuality compared to adultery/remarriage which Jesus SPECIFICALLY condemns in the NT and is one of the 10 commandments.

How many churches will happily perform a marriage of 2 divorced people? In other words, happily celebrate adultery and enable it right within their walls.

The real question is, how many WON'T do it?

The difference is you don't see Pro-cheat-on-your-spouse rallies. Otherwise, you might have a point.

 

[Dr.Drock]

All depends on how the greek word effeminate is translated, which is said once in the NT and of course never by Jesus.

It is shocking the ratio of how much fundies care about homosexuality compared to adultery/remarriage which Jesus SPECIFICALLY condemns in the NT and is one of the 10 commandments.

How many churches will happily perform a marriage of 2 divorced people? In other words, happily celebrate adultery and enable it right within their walls.

The real question is, how many WON'T do it?

The difference is you don't see Pro-cheat-on-your-spouse rallies. Otherwise, you might have a point.

Don't have to be cheating on your spouse. 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 10th, marriages are celebrated every day at churches all across the U.S.

Some celebrate being gay in a public street, some celebrate 2nd marriages in the church walls. Jesus said nothing about celebrating being gay, and specifically stated a 2nd marriage was adultery and breaking one of the 10 commandments.

The obvious answer, people aren't bigotted against people for getting married again, many are bigotted against gays. Hypocrisy at its finest, but luckily that's fading and will be gone soon and those who hold the bigotry will be shunned by society and viewed as the scumbag bigots they are.

 

[theHawk]

All depends on how the greek word effeminate is translated, which is said once in the NT and of course never by Jesus.

It is shocking the ratio of how much fundies care about homosexuality compared to adultery/remarriage which Jesus SPECIFICALLY condemns in the NT and is one of the 10 commandments.

How many churches will happily perform a marriage of 2 divorced people? In other words, happily celebrate adultery and enable it right within their walls.

The real question is, how many WON'T do it?

The difference is you don't see Pro-cheat-on-your-spouse rallies. Otherwise, you might have a point.

Don't have to be cheating on your spouse. 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 10th, marriages are celebrated every day at churches all across the U.S.

Some celebrate being gay in a public street, some celebrate 2nd marriages in the church walls. Jesus said nothing about celebrating being gay, and specifically stated a 2nd marriage was adultery and breaking one of the 10 commandments.

The obvious answer, people aren't bigotted against people for getting married again, many are bigotted against gays. Hypocrisy at its finest, but luckily that's fading and will be gone soon and those who hold the bigotry will be shunned by society and viewed as the scumbag bigots they are.

Wrong again.

Jesus clearly states its OK to divorce on grounds of "porneia", translated as fornication or sexual immorality.

"9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.” --Mathew 19

 

[theHawk]

By the way Barack Obama has publically stated that he believes marriage to be a union between a man and a woman (as well as with God). You libs take his word over that of the bible.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJhQBZ1La0w]Obama @ Saddleback Church -Defines Marriage - YouTube[/ame]

“I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian…it is also a sacred union. God’s in the mix.”---Barack Hussein Obama


Case closed, the Hussein has spoken.

 

[CaughtInTheMid]

is this a thread to prove that our government should use a religious text of one of our religions to establish law for all citizens?

 

[Dr.Drock]

The difference is you don't see Pro-cheat-on-your-spouse rallies. Otherwise, you might have a point.

Don't have to be cheating on your spouse. 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 10th, marriages are celebrated every day at churches all across the U.S.

Some celebrate being gay in a public street, some celebrate 2nd marriages in the church walls. Jesus said nothing about celebrating being gay, and specifically stated a 2nd marriage was adultery and breaking one of the 10 commandments.

The obvious answer, people aren't bigotted against people for getting married again, many are bigotted against gays. Hypocrisy at its finest, but luckily that's fading and will be gone soon and those who hold the bigotry will be shunned by society and viewed as the scumbag bigots they are.

Wrong again.

Jesus clearly states its OK to divorce on grounds of "porneia", translated as fornication or sexual immorality.

"9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.” --Mathew 19

So churches make sure every divorced person who gets married never cheated on their spouse and were in fact cheated on themselves?

 

[Sky Dancer]

New Testament on the practice of Homosexuality

Does it really need that much practice?

Practice, practice till you get it right! Have fun!

 

[theHawk]

Don't have to be cheating on your spouse. 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 10th, marriages are celebrated every day at churches all across the U.S.

Some celebrate being gay in a public street, some celebrate 2nd marriages in the church walls. Jesus said nothing about celebrating being gay, and specifically stated a 2nd marriage was adultery and breaking one of the 10 commandments.

The obvious answer, people aren't bigotted against people for getting married again, many are bigotted against gays. Hypocrisy at its finest, but luckily that's fading and will be gone soon and those who hold the bigotry will be shunned by society and viewed as the scumbag bigots they are.

Wrong again.

Jesus clearly states its OK to divorce on grounds of "porneia", translated as fornication or sexual immorality.

"9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.” --Mathew 19

So churches make sure every divorced person who gets married never cheated on their spouse and were in fact cheated on themselves?

Probably not. But Christians and churches aren't running around saying its A-OK to cheat and commit adultry. Its a sin that can be forgiven like all others, but they aren't fighting for the right of men to cheat on their wifes. People aren't going around saying that cheating is a "life style choice" or that they were "born that way", which is exactly what homosexuals are doing.

 

[Intense]

Matthew 1 | NET Bible Online

So much for the argument the New Testament is mute on the subject.

The passage is 1 Corinthians 6:9. The link takes me to that passage even though it says Matthew.

Romans Chapter 1.

 

[Dr.Drock]

Wrong again.

Jesus clearly states its OK to divorce on grounds of "porneia", translated as fornication or sexual immorality.

"9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.” --Mathew 19

So churches make sure every divorced person who gets married never cheated on their spouse and were in fact cheated on themselves?

Probably not. But Christians and churches aren't running around saying its A-OK to cheat and commit adultry. Its a sin that can be forgiven like all others, but they aren't fighting for the right of men to cheat on their wifes. People aren't going around saying that cheating is a "life style choice" or that they were "born that way", which is exactly what homosexuals are doing.

What's the difference between "going around and saying it's ok to cheat and commit adultery" and taking money from adulterers and celebrating adultery within the church walls?

 

[Intense]

So churches make sure every divorced person who gets married never cheated on their spouse and were in fact cheated on themselves?

Probably not. But Christians and churches aren't running around saying its A-OK to cheat and commit adultry. Its a sin that can be forgiven like all others, but they aren't fighting for the right of men to cheat on their wifes. People aren't going around saying that cheating is a "life style choice" or that they were "born that way", which is exactly what homosexuals are doing.

What's the difference between "going around and saying it's ok to cheat and commit adultery" and taking money from adulterers and celebrating adultery within the church walls?

Who is going around and saying it's ok to cheat and commit adultery" and taking money from adulterers and celebrating adultery within the church walls?

Are you for real or do you just like seeing your Post Babel littering all of the Forums? Get serious.

 

[theHawk]

So churches make sure every divorced person who gets married never cheated on their spouse and were in fact cheated on themselves?

Probably not. But Christians and churches aren't running around saying its A-OK to cheat and commit adultry. Its a sin that can be forgiven like all others, but they aren't fighting for the right of men to cheat on their wifes. People aren't going around saying that cheating is a "life style choice" or that they were "born that way", which is exactly what homosexuals are doing.

What's the difference between "going around and saying it's ok to cheat and commit adultery" and taking money from adulterers and celebrating adultery within the church walls?

Celebrating adultry? What the fuck are you talking about?

The only people celebrating adultry are queer-enablers like yourself.

 

[Dr.Drock]

Probably not. But Christians and churches aren't running around saying its A-OK to cheat and commit adultry. Its a sin that can be forgiven like all others, but they aren't fighting for the right of men to cheat on their wifes. People aren't going around saying that cheating is a "life style choice" or that they were "born that way", which is exactly what homosexuals are doing.

What's the difference between "going around and saying it's ok to cheat and commit adultery" and taking money from adulterers and celebrating adultery within the church walls?

Celebrating adultry? What the fuck are you talking about?

The only people celebrating adultry are queer-enablers like yourself.

Celebrating adultery=celebrating the marriages of adulterers

I'll bet even your church celebrates the breaking of one of the 10 commandments by marrying divorced couples.

 

[Intense]

What's the difference between "going around and saying it's ok to cheat and commit adultery" and taking money from adulterers and celebrating adultery within the church walls?

Celebrating adultry? What the fuck are you talking about?

The only people celebrating adultry are queer-enablers like yourself.

Celebrating adultery=celebrating the marriages of adulterers

I'll bet even your church celebrates the breaking of one of the 10 commandments by marrying divorced couples.

I think you are confused. There is Sin. There is Repentance and Atonement. There is Marriage, Divorce, Annulment. The Sects each have their own rules, not that you are interested. You have some views that are probably considered extreme by extremists, or are you just throwing stone for the sake of creating Chaos? Tell me, do You believe that Marriage is for a lifetime, and that No One should Separate what God has joined together? Many still do. Be honest.Is this an issue that truly matters to you, or are you just Howling at the moon?

 

[The Professor]

Matthew 1 | NET Bible Online

So much for the argument the New Testament is mute on the subject.

The passage is 1 Corinthians 6:9. The link takes me to that passage even though it says Matthew.

I think you've misinterpreted what many have pointed out. Both homosexuality and abortion were quite common in Christ' day. But Jesus Himself, never said a thing about either in any of the four canonized Gospels nor any of the other Gospels.

Maybe Jesus didn't say anything about homosexuality, but His daddy did! Here is how the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob instructed His followers:

“Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination” (Leviticus 18:22).

“If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them” (Leviticus 20:13).

Of course, what was condemned in the Old Testament has to be condemned in the New because of these words: “For I am the LORD, I change not...” (Malachi 3:6). Since God doesn't change, He still condemns homosexuality, and I doubt that Jesus would disagree with his Father since “I and my father are one” (John 10:30; see also 1 John 5:7).

Besides, I thought Christians believed the ENTIRE Bible was inspired by God, not just those red-letter passages attributed to Jesus. Therefore, the following verses are from God Himself even though they were purportedly spoken by Paul:

“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).

“Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine” (1 Timothy 1:9-10).

“For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them” (Romans 1:26-32).

(Note: all the quoted verses are from the KJV).

 

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[The Professor]

I want to make one point clear so that no one on this forum misunderstands my position regarding homosexuality. I do not condemn gays. I do not accept that the gay lifestyle is simply a matter of choice; rather, I believe the way they feel is influenced by factors of heredity and environment over which they have little control. Straight people did not make a choice to be straight. They were always that way because that is how they were born. The same is true of gays. They did not chose to feel the way they do; it just happened.

I will not judge others by what they do with their lovers in the privacy of their bedroom. I elect to judge them by how they deal with others in day-to-day interactions.

My comments on the Bible have nothing to do with my personal view regarding gays. I do not believe the Bible is the complete, inspired and inerrant word of God. However, I have studied the Book for many years and know it fairly well. I challenge those Christians who I believe misquote or misinterpret the Book, and in this case, I just wanted to point out that the New Testament does in fact condemn homosexuality.

In short: the Bible condemns homosexuality, but I do not.

 

[theHawk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k61an4fyndm

lol.

 

[theHawk]

What's the difference between "going around and saying it's ok to cheat and commit adultery" and taking money from adulterers and celebrating adultery within the church walls?

Celebrating adultry? What the fuck are you talking about?

The only people celebrating adultry are queer-enablers like yourself.

Celebrating adultery=celebrating the marriages of adulterers

I'll bet even your church celebrates the breaking of one of the 10 commandments by marrying divorced couples.

Churches "take money" from sinners, because everyone is a sinner. It doesn't mean they are 'celebrating' those sins.

Celebrating a homosexual marriage would be celebrating the sin, which is why real Christian churches don't do it.

 

[Salt Jones]

Matthew 1 | NET Bible Online

So much for the argument the New Testament is mute on the subject.

The passage is 1 Corinthians 6:9. The link takes me to that passage even though it says Matthew.

What does "Green Eggs and Ham" say about the gays? It's about as factual as the bible.