Nasa Scientists Puzzled By Global Cooling On Land And Sea Read Latest Breaking News From Newsmax.co

That is NOT what those studies found. Here is a Scientific American news article that came out today referring to the exact same two studies.

Oceans Are Getting Hotter than Anybody Realized
The upper 2,300 feet of the Southern Hemisphere's oceans may have warmed twice as quickly after 1970 than had previously been thought, committing Earth to a warmer climate
Oct 6, 2014 |By John Upton and Climate Central
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An Argo float.
Credit: Alicia Navidad/CSIRO
The RV Kaharoa motored out of Wellington, New Zealand on October 4, loaded with more than 100 scientific instruments, each eventually destined for a watery grave. Crewmembers will spend the next two months dropping the 50-pound devices, called Argo floats, into the seas between New Zealand and Mauritius, off the coast of Madagascar. There, the instruments will sink and drift, then measure temperature, salinity and pressure as they resurface to beam the data to a satellite. The battery-powered floats will repeat that process every 10 days — until they conk out, after four years or more, and become ocean junk.

Under an international program begun in 2000, and that started producing useful global data in 2005, the world’s warming and acidifying seas have been invisibly filled with thousands of these bobbing instruments. They are gathering and transmitting data that’s providing scientists with the clearest-ever pictures of the hitherto-unfathomed extent of ocean warming. About 90 percent of global warming is ending up not on land, but in the oceans.

Research published Sunday concluded that the upper 2,300 feet of the Southern Hemisphere’s oceans may have warmed twice as quickly after 1970 than had previously been thought. Gathering reliable ocean data in the Southern Hemisphere has historically been a challenge, given its remoteness and its relative paucity of commercial shipping, which helps gather ocean data. Argo floats and satellites are now helping to plug Austral ocean data gaps, and improving the accuracy of Northern Hemisphere measurements and estimates.

“The Argo data is really critical,” said Paul Durack, a Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory researcher who led the new study, which was published in Climate Nature Change. “The estimates that we had up until now have been pretty systematically underestimating the likely changes.”

Durack and Lawrence Livermore colleagues worked with a Jet Propulsion Laboratory scientist to compare ocean observations with ocean models. They concluded that the upper levels of the planet’s oceans — those of the northern and southern hemispheres combined — had been warming during several decades prior to 2005 at rates that were 24 to 58 percent faster than had previously been realized.

That rapid ocean warming has consequences for the Earth’s climate and its shorelines.

“We continue to be stunned at how rapidly the ocean is warming,” said Sarah Gille, a Scripps Institution of Oceanography professor. Gille was not involved with this paper, nor was she involved with a similar one published Sunday that examined the role of ocean warming in rising sea levels. She described both of them as “tremendously interesting” studies.

“Even if we stopped all greenhouse gas emissions today, we'd still have an ocean that is warmer than the ocean of 1950, and that heat commits us to a warmer climate,” Gille said. “Extra heat means extra sea level rise, since warmer water is less dense, so a warmer ocean expands.”

Ocean warming is exacerbating flooding caused by the melting of glaciers and other ice. Seas have risen 8 inches since the industrial revolution, and they continue to rise at a hastening pace, worsening floods and boosting storm surges near shorelines around the world. Another 2 to 7 feet of sea level rise is forecast this century, jeoparizing the homes and neighborhoods of the 5 million Americans who live less than 4 feet above high tide, as well as those of the hundreds of millions living along coastlines in other countries.

The other ocean temperature study, also published Sunday in Climate Nature Change, used Argo and other data to tentatively conclude that all of the ocean warming from 2005 to 2013 had occurred above depths of 6,500 feet. During the same period, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory scientists who wrote the paper concluded, the expansion of those warming waters caused a third of the planet’s 2.8 millimeters of annual sea-level rise.

Sunday’s papers joined more than 1,000 others published so far that have used Argo float data to improve science’s understanding of waterways that are climatically influential but difficult to measure manually. “This research covers a very broad range of topics including ocean circulation, water mass formation and spreading, mesoscale eddies, interannual variability such as El Niño, decadal variability, and multi-decadal climate change,” said Scripps Institution of Oceanography professor Dean Roemmich, who was in New Zealand last week preparing Argo floats for deployment by the RV Kaharoa’s crew. “The program has revolutionized large-scale physical oceanography.”

Steve Rintoul, a researcher at Australia’s Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation, or CSIRO, said findings of ocean warming above 6,500 feet in the Jet Propulsion Lab’s study explain the recent slowdown in warming at the Earth’s surface, which is sometimes called global warming hiatus, or warming pause.

“An important result of this paper is the demonstration that the oceans have continued to warm over the past decade, at a rate consistent with estimates of Earth’s net energy imbalance,” Rintoul said. “While the rate of increase in surface air temperatures slowed in the last 10 to 15 years, the heat stored by the planet, which is heavily dominated by the oceans, has steadily increased as greenhouse gases have continued to rise.”

That extra heat isn’t expected to swim with the fishes forever. Some of it will eventually rise from the deep, raising temperatures in places that more directly affect us landlubbers.

Just how rapidly the oceanic heat will resurface to warm the land is “something that we struggle with,” said Scripps’s Gille. But she said heat is constantly shifting between oceans and the atmosphere. “A warmer ocean will mean a warmer atmosphere.”
 
If that was too much for you to read, here's an excerpt:


“An important result of this paper is the demonstration that the oceans have continued to warm over the past decade, at a rate consistent with estimates of Earth’s net energy imbalance,” Rintoul said. “While the rate of increase in surface air temperatures slowed in the last 10 to 15 years, the heat stored by the planet, which is heavily dominated by the oceans, has steadily increased as greenhouse gases have continued to rise.”
 
If the models don't match observations...the observations need to be "adjusted". If the oceans were warming as is being claimed, we would be seeing an acceleration in sea level rise due to thermal expansion...rather than the deceleration which has been observed over the past 75 or so years...maybe that is the next observation in line for "adjustment"...

There is, after all a lot of room to adjust....the best satellite altimetry is accurate to +/- 13mm and climate science is reporting sea level to the nearest 1/100th of a mm.
 
Sea level rise is not decelerating.

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The rate of the last couple of years has been phenomenally high. That dip was caused by massive, flooding rainfalls in Australia and northern South America that actually lowered the ocean's level and certainly shows no correlation to the reduction in surface warming that has made the lot of you near-orgasmic.

If you still believe your claim that it's decelerating, show us CURRENT data to support it.
 
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Sea level rise is not decelerating.

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The rate of the last couple of years has been phenomenally high. That dip was caused by massive, flooding rainfalls in Australia and northern South America that actually lowered the ocean's level and certainly shows no correlation to the reduction in surface warming that has made the lot of you near-orgasmic.

If you still believe your claim that it's decelerating, show us CURRENT data to support it.

Satellite altimetry is accurate to +/- 13mm....climate science is reporting sea level to the nearest 1/100th of a millimeter and you believe them. I am laughing in your stupid, gullible face.

By the way...I can't help but notice that your graphs keep showing smaller and smaller bits of time in an effort to make your point.
 
NASA Scientists Puzzled by Global Cooling on Land and Sea

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com Lack of Ocean Heat Puzzles NASA Hunt for Warming hiatus



The deep ocean may not be hiding heat after all, raising new questions about why global warming appears to have slowed in recent years, said the US space agency Monday.

Scientists have noticed that while greenhouse gases have continued to mount in the first part of the 21st century, global average surface air temperatures have stopped rising along with them, said NASA.

Some studies have suggested that heat is being absorbed temporarily by the deep seas, and that this so-called global warming hiatus is a temporary trend.


But latest data from satellite and direct ocean temperature measurements from 2005 to 2013 "found the ocean abyss below 1.24 miles (1,995 meters) has not warmed measurably," NASA said in a statement.


The findings present a new puzzle to scientists, but co-author Josh Willis of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) said the reality of climate change is not being thrown into doubt.

"The sea level is still rising," said Willis.

"We're just trying to understand the nitty-gritty details."

A separate study in August in the journal Science said the apparent slowdown in the Earth's surface warming in the last 15 years could be due to that heat being trapped in the deep Atlantic and Southern Ocean.


I say it's thrown into doubt as we simply don't have the slightest fucking clue about the workings of the thing we're trying to model. lol
are we trying to believe that putting millions of tons of carbon into the air and world in general is to have no effect on the planets ecosystems? is that what all you climate change deniers want us to believe? it's all ok because you say so? because you wanna ride your cars and sell your oil? do you think the smoke coming from cars and everything else is good for us in general? we can never get off this polluting supply of buried treasure for the few to sell us to are deaths?
no, what we're saying is prove it! It's quite simple, yet you can't comprehend it. Typical left loonie.
 
NASA Scientists Puzzled by Global Cooling on Land and Sea

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com Lack of Ocean Heat Puzzles NASA Hunt for Warming hiatus



The deep ocean may not be hiding heat after all, raising new questions about why global warming appears to have slowed in recent years, said the US space agency Monday.

Scientists have noticed that while greenhouse gases have continued to mount in the first part of the 21st century, global average surface air temperatures have stopped rising along with them, said NASA.

Some studies have suggested that heat is being absorbed temporarily by the deep seas, and that this so-called global warming hiatus is a temporary trend.


But latest data from satellite and direct ocean temperature measurements from 2005 to 2013 "found the ocean abyss below 1.24 miles (1,995 meters) has not warmed measurably," NASA said in a statement.


The findings present a new puzzle to scientists, but co-author Josh Willis of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) said the reality of climate change is not being thrown into doubt.

"The sea level is still rising," said Willis.

"We're just trying to understand the nitty-gritty details."

A separate study in August in the journal Science said the apparent slowdown in the Earth's surface warming in the last 15 years could be due to that heat being trapped in the deep Atlantic and Southern Ocean.


I say it's thrown into doubt as we simply don't have the slightest fucking clue about the workings of the thing we're trying to model. lol


You need to qualify your comments. The world's climate scientists most certainly DO "have a fucking clue" as to the workings of the Earth's climate. They will never know everything. We humans will NEVER know EVERYTHING about ANYTHING. But we can and do know a great deal about a great many things, the Earth's climate being one of them.
no they don't, what a stoopid thing to say!
 
This concept of reducing complex systems to single numbers is the problem again here. ALL of this noise is about an attempt to find ONE GLOBAL measurement of Ocean Heat Content. That's a ridiculous concept if you want to battle about 0.01degC at some depth in this fictionalize "global ocean"..

The TRUTH is -- if you want to find the trend for HEAT at depth, you should first understand the 10% of the ocean volume that actually STORES and CONDUCTS that heat. As in the major conveyors.

Particularly true of the Polar Oceans and the Tropics where the BULK of the heat (and cold) is being contained in key pathways. Dropping twice as many buoys is NOT gonna represent what's happening in those conveyors..
 
Hahahaha crick's link says 2 to 7 feet of SLR!

What a joke. Even the 3mm/yr is disputed as exaggeratedly high. That works out to one foot this century! The slope of the line is ridiculously steep even to get to one metre, two metres is absurd.
 
NASA Scientists Puzzled by Global Cooling on Land and Sea

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com Lack of Ocean Heat Puzzles NASA Hunt for Warming hiatus



The deep ocean may not be hiding heat after all, raising new questions about why global warming appears to have slowed in recent years, said the US space agency Monday.

Scientists have noticed that while greenhouse gases have continued to mount in the first part of the 21st century, global average surface air temperatures have stopped rising along with them, said NASA.

Some studies have suggested that heat is being absorbed temporarily by the deep seas, and that this so-called global warming hiatus is a temporary trend.


But latest data from satellite and direct ocean temperature measurements from 2005 to 2013 "found the ocean abyss below 1.24 miles (1,995 meters) has not warmed measurably," NASA said in a statement.


The findings present a new puzzle to scientists, but co-author Josh Willis of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) said the reality of climate change is not being thrown into doubt.

"The sea level is still rising," said Willis.

"We're just trying to understand the nitty-gritty details."

A separate study in August in the journal Science said the apparent slowdown in the Earth's surface warming in the last 15 years could be due to that heat being trapped in the deep Atlantic and Southern Ocean.


I say it's thrown into doubt as we simply don't have the slightest fucking clue about the workings of the thing we're trying to model. lol
are we trying to believe that putting millions of tons of carbon into the air and world in general is to have no effect on the planets ecosystems? is that what all you climate change deniers want us to believe? it's all ok because you say so? because you wanna ride your cars and sell your oil? do you think the smoke coming from cars and everything else is good for us in general? we can never get off this polluting supply of buried treasure for the few to sell us to are deaths?
no, what we're saying is prove it! It's quite simple, yet you can't comprehend it. Typical left loonie.
prove it? you haven't noticed all sorts of storms getting worse? from flooding rainn to stronger hurricanes? you are a moron. typical. go watch some football or south park and keep up your education.
 
NASA Scientists Puzzled by Global Cooling on Land and Sea

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com Lack of Ocean Heat Puzzles NASA Hunt for Warming hiatus



The deep ocean may not be hiding heat after all, raising new questions about why global warming appears to have slowed in recent years, said the US space agency Monday.

Scientists have noticed that while greenhouse gases have continued to mount in the first part of the 21st century, global average surface air temperatures have stopped rising along with them, said NASA.

Some studies have suggested that heat is being absorbed temporarily by the deep seas, and that this so-called global warming hiatus is a temporary trend.

But latest data from satellite and direct ocean temperature measurements from 2005 to 2013 "found the ocean abyss below 1.24 miles (1,995 meters) has not warmed measurably," NASA said in a statement.


The findings present a new puzzle to scientists, but co-author Josh Willis of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) said the reality of climate change is not being thrown into doubt.

"The sea level is still rising," said Willis.

"We're just trying to understand the nitty-gritty details."

A separate study in August in the journal Science said the apparent slowdown in the Earth's surface warming in the last 15 years could be due to that heat being trapped in the deep Atlantic and Southern Ocean.


I say it's thrown into doubt as we simply don't have the slightest fucking clue about the workings of the thing we're trying to model. lol
are we trying to believe that putting millions of tons of carbon into the air and world in general is to have no effect on the planets ecosystems? is that what all you climate change deniers want us to believe? it's all ok because you say so? because you wanna ride your cars and sell your oil? do you think the smoke coming from cars and everything else is good for us in general? we can never get off this polluting supply of buried treasure for the few to sell us to are deaths?
no, what we're saying is prove it! It's quite simple, yet you can't comprehend it. Typical left loonie.
prove it? you haven't noticed all sorts of storms getting worse? from flooding rainn to stronger hurricanes? you are a moron. typical. go watch some football or south park and keep up your education.
no actually I haven't. Not sure what the hell you're talking about.
 

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