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Well, maybe that was a bit overkill? Or did I really destroy the liberal argument on abortion and birth control?
you post nonsense and then announce how you've "destroyed" arguments that have not been made.
you're like a two year old.
All birth control prescribed by a doctor is for medical reasons.
Scientoligists shouldn't have to pay for blood transfusions or inoculations either, right? Health care insurance offered by employers is a benefit of employment in lieu of money. If employers don't wish to offer the insurance, they must compensate the individuals with money...so they can buy it.
What it is time for is to stop tying insurance with employment. End all employer sponsored health care. No employer should get between you and your doctor.
Don't take the employers money then. There are consequences that happen when you accept freebies.
What? How does that relate to what I said? Healthcare insurance is offered in lieu of money. If the employer does not wish to cover certain prescribed medications or proceduresbecause they have a "religious objection" to it...like Jehovah Witnesses or Scientoligists not wishing to cover vaccinations or blood transfusions, then they should not offer the insurance, pay the employee the money instead of providing the healthcare and let the employee purchase their insurance from the individual market.
No, it has a bearing on your credibility.
I mean, you can talk theory all day, but until you get out there and live life and have to deal with real problems and real situations, not much of what you say is credible.
I knew a gal who had an abortion (not mine). She had a jerk boyfriend and got some silly idea in her head if she stopped taking birth control, he'd finally make good on his promises to marry her.
He didn't.
Now, this girl was educated, she was brought up in a strict Catholic family with strong Asian values. But at the end of the day she still had an abortion because she didn't want her parents to know she wasn't still a virgin at 21.
So off to the clinic she went.
And a year later, she got back with the same guy and the same thing happened.
So I'm still waiting for you to make the suggestion of how we keep that from happening, exactly. Because i'm sure it happens a lot.
You can't protect people from their own mistakes.
If she was forced to keep the first one odds are she would not have had to chose whether to kill the second one or not because maybe she would've learned her lesson and not have sex without birth control.
I don't think this woman would have 'learned her lesson'. First, I don't think there is a way to force women to have babies they dont' want to have. Not without placing them under house arrest.
so the alternative would be what, make her have a baby she couldn't support, didn't want and derailed her life plan? Seriously?
Your point? You are right of course, but abortion in your case would be for 'cosmetic' reasons, not 'medical.'
Birth control is not abortion.
How naive.
Abortion IS a form of birth control. Since the innocent in the womb is slaughtered before he or she is born, you control the birth... or more to the point, the death of the child. In essence, birth control. By slaughtering the child, you stop the birth, prevent the birth, and therefore control the birth. So, what will you do now?
Pardon me, but you are in no position to deflect. The errors of your platform have been laid out before you. Rendered useless. All you can do is to make small talk. You can spare us all by acknowledging that Democrats once supported freedom of religion, and then explaining why in the past 20 years you felt it necessary to attack it instead of defend it.
Liberals such as yourself are paradoxes of morality.
Well, maybe that was a bit overkill? Or did I really destroy the liberal argument on abortion and birth control?
you post nonsense and then announce how you've "destroyed" arguments that have not been made.
you're like a two year old.
You guys can whine and troll all you want. You're wrong. Spamming me with rage only strengthens my argument.
Must have. That or it's because she works for Fox News and thus shouldn't be taken seriously?
As a libertarian why would you take anyone serious from cable news? I don't and I am not technically a libertarian.
Is Runs-With-Scissors still a libertarian this week?
Birth control is not abortion.
How naive.
Abortion IS a form of birth control. Since the innocent in the womb is slaughtered before he or she is born, you control the birth... or more to the point, the death of the child. In essence, birth control. By slaughtering the child, you stop the birth, prevent the birth, and therefore control the birth. So, what will you do now?
Pardon me, but you are in no position to deflect. The errors of your platform have been laid out before you. Rendered useless. All you can do is to make small talk. You can spare us all by acknowledging that Democrats once supported freedom of religion, and then explaining why in the past 20 years you felt it necessary to attack it instead of defend it.
Liberals such as yourself are paradoxes of morality.
the virgin thinks abortion is a form of birth control.
In essence does not make it fact you tard. You are trying to mix opinion with facts and you are failing.
fat ass
You guys can whine and troll all you want. You're wrong. Spamming me with rage only strengthens my argument.
In your mind. Which says nothing, giving your mental illness.
How naive.
Abortion IS a form of birth control. Since the innocent in the womb is slaughtered before he or she is born, you control the birth... or more to the point, the death of the child. In essence, birth control. By slaughtering the child, you stop the birth, prevent the birth, and therefore control the birth. So, what will you do now?
Pardon me, but you are in no position to deflect. The errors of your platform have been laid out before you. Rendered useless. All you can do is to make small talk. You can spare us all by acknowledging that Democrats once supported freedom of religion, and then explaining why in the past 20 years you felt it necessary to attack it instead of defend it.
Liberals such as yourself are paradoxes of morality.
the virgin thinks abortion is a form of birth control.
In essence does not make it fact you tard. You are trying to mix opinion with facts and you are failing.
fat ass
Yes, but you liberals seem to tout your emotions as fact. So... who are you talk? When you prevent birth, you are controlling it. Welcome to the world of common sense, you ignoramus.
Anyone think Megan Kelly doesn't use birth control?
Megyn Kelly Of Fox Loses It When Obama Campaign Calls Them On Bias
Oliver Willis on October 27, 2008
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Fox News Anchor Megyn Kelly Admitted into Psychiatric Ward
Written by Alex Kuzio December 13th 2013
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Is Megyn Kelly Worse Than Glenn Beck? | News Corpse
Jon Stewart Takedown of Megyn Kelly's Santa Is White Rant Is Perfect and Hilarious | E! Online
So, Megyn Marie Kelly (born November 18, 1970), formerly known as Megyn Kendall, explains what?
The same MK who
Megyn Kelly Of Fox Loses It When Obama Campaign Calls Them On Bias
Oliver Willis on October 27, 2008
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Fox News Anchor Megyn Kelly Admitted into Psychiatric Ward
Written by Alex Kuzio December 13th 2013
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Is Megyn Kelly Worse Than Glenn Beck? | News Corpse
Jon Stewart Takedown of Megyn Kelly's Santa Is White Rant Is Perfect and Hilarious | E! Online
I am inserting my commentary into the dialogue that Megyn Kelly used to rebut Nancy Pelosi's claims about the male Supreme Court justices who ruled on the Hobby Lobby case, as well as to comment on the religious freedom aspect of this decision.
Yesterday, Nancy Pelosi proceeded to blast the SCOTUS decision in favor of Hobby Lobby. Megyn Kelly, a former Attorney at Law proceeded to excoriate Pelosi on her misleading representation of the ruling. But first this is what Pelosi had to say.
Nancy Pelosi said:We should be afraid of this court. That court decision was a frightening one. That five men should get down to the specifics of whether a woman should use a diaphragm and she should pay for it herself or her boss. It's not her boss's business.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI4yVLunsPE]Megyn Kelly SLAMS Nancy Pelosi on Hobby Lobby Decision - " Guilty of Sexism " - Fox News - YouTube[/ame]
Kelly begins her rebuttal by stating:
Megyn Kelly said:Either Ms. Pelosi doesn't know what she's talking about, or she is purposefully trying to mislead you.
Then she gets on with it:
1) A little history here. In 1973, Roe. v. Wade was decided by an all male Supreme Court. As in all the Justices were men. All nine of them. So, what were those men thinking while legalizing abortion? Her (Pelosi's) belief is that men are ill equipped to handle issues relating to birth control. Is it only when the male justices disagree with her that their gender becomes a problem?
2) If John Boehner had said anything similar of the female justices, she would be the first one to implicate him being sexist. As seen below:
3) To clarify, nobody is making anything illegal. The decision was not fashioned in such a way as to outlaw anything. The diaphragm is not even an issue here, in fact it is a gross misrepresentation of the issue. Every form of birth control on the market that was legal before the ruling, was still legal after the ruling. The religious freedom law that was used to make the ruling was co-sponsored by none other than Nancy Pelosi. It simply pointed out that sometimes such law will protect the religious rights of corporations. As Megyn Kelly points out:
4) She further points out that, contrary to liberals beliefs, or Pelosi's, neither the court, nor Hobby Lobby themselves took issue with covering birth control, except that Hobby Lobby objected only to certain forms of contraceptives, which terminates a fertilized egg. Some see that as abortion, as they believe life begins at conception. This was not an attempt to end birth control or women's access to such means:
Megyn Kelly said:Neither the High Court nor Hobby Lobby took issue with Kathleen Sebelius' minions over at the HHS, mandating behind closed doors after Obamacare was passed; that companies cover birth control--16 forms of it in fact. But the majority did say that Hobby Lobby still had the right to object to covering just four forms of birth control, that happened to terminate a fertilized egg, which some believe is abortion.
5) And then she reiterates about the legality of the contraceptives in question, saying quite bluntly, that nobody outlawed contraceptives, especially the four forms Hobby Lobby was absolved of having to cover. She then takes on the issue of Pelosi mentioning the diaphragm, which as it so happens once again, was never discussed in the opinion the court handed out last week:
Megyn Kelly said:No one ruled those contraceptives were illegal. The diaphragm was never discussed! It wasn't even one of the forms of birth control at issue, which Ms. Pelosi should really know, since she so famously promised us that after Obamacare was passed, at some point we would know what was in it.
In Parting, Nancy Pelosi's Background on Religious Freedom:
Liberals suggesting that the court had any ulterior motive against women are simply misconstruing the decision altogether, or are trying to stir up resentment. Nobody is out to get women or harm them. Nobody is trying to infringe on their rights, they are simply saying that sometimes, owners of corporations do in fact have religious rights.
This was an attempt by Nanci Pelosi to muddy the waters, when in fact the very thing she is lamenting about was made possible by a law she helped to pass. The Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993. Ironically then, that Act was in response to another controversial Supreme Court decision, Employment Division v. Smith, 494 U.S. 872 (1990), which curbed the religious rights and unemployment benefits by the State of Oregon, of two Native Americans who were fired from their jobs after testing positive for mescaline, a substance found in the Peyote Cactus used for Native American religious ceremonies. The decision was not taken well by the American public, as many religious organizations and the ACLU responded in support of passing the RFRA. She, along with almost every Democrat in the House and Senate were braying loudly over that decision, voicing their support of religious freedom. For the record, the bill passed unanimously in the House, and 97-3 in the Senate that year. Some of those voting in favor of the RFRA were Pelosi, Joe Biden and Harry Reid amongst others.
The left has no footing on this issue, since they once spoke out in support of it in very noticeable fashion over 20 years ago. So essentially, they were for religious freedom before they were against it. Any positions liberals now have against religious freedom are in direct conflict with the views they held in 1993; especially Nancy Pelosi's.
So, Megyn Marie Kelly (born November 18, 1970), formerly known as Megyn Kendall, explains what?
The same MK who
Megyn Kelly Of Fox Loses It When Obama Campaign Calls Them On Bias
Oliver Willis on October 27, 2008
---
Fox News Anchor Megyn Kelly Admitted into Psychiatric Ward
Written by Alex Kuzio December 13th 2013
---
Is Megyn Kelly Worse Than Glenn Beck? | News Corpse
Jon Stewart Takedown of Megyn Kelly's Santa Is White Rant Is Perfect and Hilarious | E! Online
Misogynist ^
How naive.
Abortion IS a form of birth control. Since the innocent in the womb is slaughtered before he or she is born, you control the birth... or more to the point, the death of the child. In essence, birth control. By slaughtering the child, you stop the birth, prevent the birth, and therefore control the birth. So, what will you do now?
Pardon me, but you are in no position to deflect. The errors of your platform have been laid out before you. Rendered useless. All you can do is to make small talk. You can spare us all by acknowledging that Democrats once supported freedom of religion, and then explaining why in the past 20 years you felt it necessary to attack it instead of defend it.
Liberals such as yourself are paradoxes of morality.
the virgin thinks abortion is a form of birth control.
In essence does not make it fact you tard. You are trying to mix opinion with facts and you are failing.
fat ass
Yes, but you liberals seem to tout your emotions as fact. So... who are you talk? When you prevent birth, you are controlling it. Welcome to the world of common sense, you ignoramus.
