MW advocates - what are the downsides of minimum wage?

[Wyatt earp]

No you want socialism everyone as miserable as you, it's obvious butt head


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You understand nothing about economics. Why should we take the rest of the right wing seriously.

Coming from you ? The pot head just making up shit as he goes along .



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making up stories, right winger? I have arguments not gossip. Any wo-man can do that.

You refuse to have a honest conversation, you want diversion to hide your true motives, Beavis


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I argue and resort to the fewest fallacies. That is as honest as it gets. Only the right wing, never gets it.

Your a stepford wife admit it .


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[danielpalos]

in other words, you got nothing.

why should we take the right wing seriously about economics?

No you want socialism everyone as miserable as you, it's obvious butt head


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You understand nothing about economics. Why should we take the rest of the right wing seriously.

Because without them you'd probably be homeless and starve...dumbass.

why is that? all you have is gossip not arguments.

Thanks for bringing that up is this you?




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i love how the right wing blames everyone but themselves.

 

[danielpalos]

You understand nothing about economics. Why should we take the rest of the right wing seriously.

Coming from you ? The pot head just making up shit as he goes along .



..

making up stories, right winger? I have arguments not gossip. Any wo-man can do that.

You refuse to have a honest conversation, you want diversion to hide your true motives, Beavis


.

I argue and resort to the fewest fallacies. That is as honest as it gets. Only the right wing, never gets it.

Your a stepford wife admit it .


.

i have arguments not gossip.

Men do.

 

[Wyatt earp]

No you want socialism everyone as miserable as you, it's obvious butt head


.

You understand nothing about economics. Why should we take the rest of the right wing seriously.

Because without them you'd probably be homeless and starve...dumbass.

why is that? all you have is gossip not arguments.

Thanks for bringing that up is this you?




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i love how the right wing blames everyone but themselves.

Admit it..your a stepford wife .


What other possible explanation can be

 

[Wyatt earp]

Coming from you ? The pot head just making up shit as he goes along .



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making up stories, right winger? I have arguments not gossip. Any wo-man can do that.

You refuse to have a honest conversation, you want diversion to hide your true motives, Beavis


.

I argue and resort to the fewest fallacies. That is as honest as it gets. Only the right wing, never gets it.

Your a stepford wife admit it .


.

i have arguments not gossip.

Men do.

That's what I thought, a pot smoking girl..


It took me a while to figure that out

 

[McRocket]

This thread is addressed to supporters of minimum wage laws. Detractors claim that minimum wage causes unemployment and/or inflation. But most supporters will vigorously deny this. Yet they seem to set their sights pretty low when it comes to setting the level of minimum wage. I assume this is because they believe there is some downside to minimum wage, some reason to not raise it to $200/hr, but it seems they never want to talk about what that reason might be. Hopefully, someone will step up here, and clear the air.

So, what are you saying? No MW AT ALL?

Well, in the OP I was focused on trying to understand what MW advocates mean when they claim that there are no negative repercussions to setting or raising the minimum wage. That makes no sense to me.

But that was then. The thread has mostly devolved into the usual debates over MW.

I am against a $15 MW. But no MW is crazy.

What's crazy about it? If people are allowed to work for free (volunteer), why shouldn't they be allowed to work for a very small amount?

All the major/medium corporations/businesses could get together and set their own MW at like $3/hr.. And what could anyone do about it?

Not work for them?

If they are ALL in cahoots - you could not use economic boycott to force them to raise it.

Well, if all major/medium corporations/businesses get together (on anything) I'm buying stock ice skates, because hell will have just frozen over.

No...you have to have a remotely reasonable MW BUT having it as a 'living wage' is also ridiculous and is not in either the Constitution or the UN Charter.

The problem is that "remotely reasonable" and "living wage" are entirely subjective terms. Some people can live on $15/day, and for some $15/hr won't be nearly enough.

$9.50/hr with yearly increases for inflation seems fair to me.

Awesome, then you should refuse to work for less than that. But other people might have a different number in mind. Any reason yours is better? Any reason government should force your values on others?

6 quotes to my one post?

You want me to start a debate with six different points of my one post?

Sorry...I have a life.

Good for you. Responding to specific points in a post is a common practice on message boards. I'm sorry if it bothers you.

Besides, my experience is people that do what you did are deliberately trying to muddy the conversation. No offense.

None taken. That's not my experience.

It doesn't 'bother me'. I just don't see the point of having a debate on every, single, little point someone makes. And it almost always leads to a big mess. I am on here to kill extra time...not waste LOTS of it.

 

[danielpalos]

You understand nothing about economics. Why should we take the rest of the right wing seriously.

Because without them you'd probably be homeless and starve...dumbass.

why is that? all you have is gossip not arguments.

Thanks for bringing that up is this you?




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i love how the right wing blames everyone but themselves.

Admit it..your a stepford wife .


What other possible explanation can be




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the right wing is clueless and Causeless, and prove it with their silly memes.

 

[danielpalos]

making up stories, right winger? I have arguments not gossip. Any wo-man can do that.

You refuse to have a honest conversation, you want diversion to hide your true motives, Beavis


.

I argue and resort to the fewest fallacies. That is as honest as it gets. Only the right wing, never gets it.

Your a stepford wife admit it .


.

i have arguments not gossip.

Men do.

That's what I thought, a pot smoking girl..


It took me a while to figure that out

nobody takes the right wing seriously. all they do is gossip.

 

[dblack]

This thread is addressed to supporters of minimum wage laws. Detractors claim that minimum wage causes unemployment and/or inflation. But most supporters will vigorously deny this. Yet they seem to set their sights pretty low when it comes to setting the level of minimum wage. I assume this is because they believe there is some downside to minimum wage, some reason to not raise it to $200/hr, but it seems they never want to talk about what that reason might be. Hopefully, someone will step up here, and clear the air.

So, what are you saying? No MW AT ALL?

Well, in the OP I was focused on trying to understand what MW advocates mean when they claim that there are no negative repercussions to setting or raising the minimum wage. That makes no sense to me.

But that was then. The thread has mostly devolved into the usual debates over MW.

I am against a $15 MW. But no MW is crazy.

What's crazy about it? If people are allowed to work for free (volunteer), why shouldn't they be allowed to work for a very small amount?

All the major/medium corporations/businesses could get together and set their own MW at like $3/hr.. And what could anyone do about it?

Not work for them?

If they are ALL in cahoots - you could not use economic boycott to force them to raise it.

Well, if all major/medium corporations/businesses get together (on anything) I'm buying stock ice skates, because hell will have just frozen over.

No...you have to have a remotely reasonable MW BUT having it as a 'living wage' is also ridiculous and is not in either the Constitution or the UN Charter.

The problem is that "remotely reasonable" and "living wage" are entirely subjective terms. Some people can live on $15/day, and for some $15/hr won't be nearly enough.

$9.50/hr with yearly increases for inflation seems fair to me.

Awesome, then you should refuse to work for less than that. But other people might have a different number in mind. Any reason yours is better? Any reason government should force your values on others?

6 quotes to my one post?

You want me to start a debate with six different points of my one post?

Sorry...I have a life.

Good for you. Responding to specific points in a post is a common practice on message boards. I'm sorry if it bothers you.

Besides, my experience is people that do what you did are deliberately trying to muddy the conversation. No offense.

None taken. That's not my experience.

It doesn't 'bother me'. I just don't see the point of having a debate on every, single, little point someone makes. And it almost always leads to a big mess. I am on here to kill extra time...not waste LOTS of it.

Good for you. Balance is important in life.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Because without them you'd probably be homeless and starve...dumbass.

why is that? all you have is gossip not arguments.

Thanks for bringing that up is this you?




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i love how the right wing blames everyone but themselves.

Admit it..your a stepford wife .


What other possible explanation can be




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the right wing is clueless and Causeless, and prove it with their silly memes.

Only a girl would use the word "silly"



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[dblack]

Who are the bigger trolls? The trolls? Or the trolls who troll the trolls?

 

[danielpalos]

why is that? all you have is gossip not arguments.

Thanks for bringing that up is this you?




View attachment 233298

i love how the right wing blames everyone but themselves.

Admit it..your a stepford wife .


What other possible explanation can be




View attachment 233299

the right wing is clueless and Causeless, and prove it with their silly memes.

Only a girl would use the word "silly"



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I argue with women, too. Higher paid labor pays more in taxes and creates more in demand. It is worth the limited inflation.

 

[hadit]

You refuse to have a honest conversation, you want diversion to hide your true motives, Beavis


.

I argue and resort to the fewest fallacies. That is as honest as it gets. Only the right wing, never gets it.

Your a stepford wife admit it .


.

i have arguments not gossip.

Men do.

That's what I thought, a pot smoking girl..


It took me a while to figure that out

nobody takes the right wing seriously. all they do is gossip.

And yet they defeat your vacuous arguments on a daily basis. Imagine that.

 

[danielpalos]

I argue and resort to the fewest fallacies. That is as honest as it gets. Only the right wing, never gets it.

Your a stepford wife admit it .


.

i have arguments not gossip.

Men do.

That's what I thought, a pot smoking girl..


It took me a while to figure that out

nobody takes the right wing seriously. all they do is gossip.

And yet they defeat your vacuous arguments on a daily basis. Imagine that.

in right wing fantasy, all things are possible.

Increasing the minimum wage to fifteen an hour is worth the inflation.

 

[Thinker101]

why is that? all you have is gossip not arguments.

Thanks for bringing that up is this you?




View attachment 233298

i love how the right wing blames everyone but themselves.

Admit it..your a stepford wife .


What other possible explanation can be




View attachment 233299

the right wing is clueless and Causeless, and prove it with their silly memes.

Only a girl would use the word "silly"



.

Or a guy that's feeling more feminine than most.

 

[hadit]

Your a stepford wife admit it .


.

i have arguments not gossip.

Men do.

That's what I thought, a pot smoking girl..


It took me a while to figure that out

nobody takes the right wing seriously. all they do is gossip.

And yet they defeat your vacuous arguments on a daily basis. Imagine that.

in right wing fantasy, all things are possible.

Increasing the minimum wage to fifteen an hour is worth the inflation.

You really don't get it, do you? Your arguments are routinely and easily beaten over and over again, yet you spout off some more meaningless phrases and pop up with the exact same arguments that have been destroyed many times as if nothing ever happened. Yes, we're mocking you.

 

[danielpalos]

Thanks for bringing that up is this you?




View attachment 233298

i love how the right wing blames everyone but themselves.

Admit it..your a stepford wife .


What other possible explanation can be




View attachment 233299

the right wing is clueless and Causeless, and prove it with their silly memes.

Only a girl would use the word "silly"



.

Or a guy that's feeling more feminine than most.

i love arguing with easy guys.

 

[Thinker101]

i love how the right wing blames everyone but themselves.

Admit it..your a stepford wife .


What other possible explanation can be




View attachment 233299

the right wing is clueless and Causeless, and prove it with their silly memes.

Only a girl would use the word "silly"



.

Or a guy that's feeling more feminine than most.

i love arguing with easy guys.

I'm sure you love a lot of things with easy guys.

 

[danielpalos]

i have arguments not gossip.

Men do.

That's what I thought, a pot smoking girl..


It took me a while to figure that out

nobody takes the right wing seriously. all they do is gossip.

And yet they defeat your vacuous arguments on a daily basis. Imagine that.

in right wing fantasy, all things are possible.

Increasing the minimum wage to fifteen an hour is worth the inflation.

You really don't get it, do you? Your arguments are routinely and easily beaten over and over again, yet you spout off some more meaningless phrases and pop up with the exact same arguments that have been destroyed many times as if nothing ever happened. Yes, we're mocking you.

your whole reply is nothing but gossip.

Increasing the minimum wage to fifteen an hour is worth the inflation; why do you believe it isn't.

 

[danielpalos]

Admit it..your a stepford wife .


What other possible explanation can be




View attachment 233299

the right wing is clueless and Causeless, and prove it with their silly memes.

Only a girl would use the word "silly"



.

Or a guy that's feeling more feminine than most.

i love arguing with easy guys.

I'm sure you love a lot of things with easy guys.

if i were a girl, I could be more "full of fallacy, yet more conservative" than most guys.