Muslim Woman Teacher Gets Fired for a Haj.

[JScott]

Its a little sticky but she asked for 3 weeks unpaid leave and when she couldnt get that she resigned.

This country was made up of "foreign" beliefs, Grace. Youre just used to the ones we have.

This was something she had to do for her religious beliefs. I dont see why you people think shes so evil. Wait, shes Muslim....right.....

I dont even believe in any religious hocus pocus but I sure can see how some of you think you have every right in the world to have it your way. F**k the rest, right?

Where did I say she was evil or it was because she is muslim? Link please.
I dont give a damn about her religious beliefs. You dont take 3 weeks off a job without earning it with time earned or it being said AHEAD of time of her hiring. She was told she could not go during that period or she would be terminated. She did it anyway.
The only one making it about her religion is.....hold on...are ya ready?....you.

I didnt quote you as saying those things. You didnt. You did say you were tired of all the foreign stuff, so tired.

Muslims have to do what she did at least once in their lives if they can afford it. She could afford it now so she went. If she were to wait until she could do it in her off season she would have had to wait 9 years. Who knows what it will be like for her then.

This was a religious function as well as being a 3 week event. This is why its a sticky situation.

Its also pretty obvious the venom about her being a Muslim. In my eyes at least.

 

[hortysir]

Its a little sticky but she asked for 3 weeks unpaid leave and when she couldnt get that she resigned.

This country was made up of "foreign" beliefs, Grace. Youre just used to the ones we have.

This was something she had to do for her religious beliefs. I dont see why you people think shes so evil. Wait, shes Muslim....right.....

I dont even believe in any religious hocus pocus but I sure can see how some of you think you have every right in the world to have it your way. F**k the rest, right?

Guess I spoke too soon about no one defending the idiot....

No. It isn't "Fuck the rest" (don't be afraid to spell it)
I don;t demand Sundays off or Easter or, when I worked where they were open for it, even Christmas.

And no it isn't something she "had" to do for her religious beliefs.
She isn't evil. She's the one feeling entitled. How does that reflect on "some of us"?

 

[JScott]

If she resigned...why is she suing?

I think Ill be 3 weeks late on paying my rent. When the landlord files for me to be removed, Ill sue him. Why? Cuz I was on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem and couldnt be bothered with paying the rent due. Youre the landlord. That ok with you?
Then when you proceed, Ill sue you for stomping on my rights to go to Jerusalem and not paying my rent on time.

She is suing for the same reason a Christian would sue if they were denied any religious event they tried to go to.

Youre argument is pretty weak and the judge would force you to pay.

 

[syrenn]

If she resigned...why is she suing?

I think Ill be 3 weeks late on paying my rent. When the landlord files for me to be removed, Ill sue him. Why? Cuz I was on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem and couldnt be bothered with paying the rent due. Youre the landlord. That ok with you?
Then when you proceed, Ill sue you for stomping on my rights to go to Jerusalem and not paying my rent on time.

She is suing for the same reason a Christian would sue if they were denied any religious event they tried to go to.

Youre argument is pretty weak and the judge would force you to pay.

Jews and Hanukkah? See them getting that time off? It has nothing to do with her being muslim.

 

[syrenn]

Its a little sticky but she asked for 3 weeks unpaid leave and when she couldnt get that she resigned.

This country was made up of "foreign" beliefs, Grace. Youre just used to the ones we have.

This was something she had to do for her religious beliefs. I dont see why you people think shes so evil. Wait, shes Muslim....right.....

I dont even believe in any religious hocus pocus but I sure can see how some of you think you have every right in the world to have it your way. F**k the rest, right?

Where did I say she was evil or it was because she is muslim? Link please.
I dont give a damn about her religious beliefs. You dont take 3 weeks off a job without earning it with time earned or it being said AHEAD of time of her hiring. She was told she could not go during that period or she would be terminated. She did it anyway.
The only one making it about her religion is.....hold on...are ya ready?....you.

I didnt quote you as saying those things. You didnt. You did say you were tired of all the foreign stuff, so tired.

Muslims have to do what she did at least once in their lives if they can afford it. She could afford it now so she went. If she were to wait until she could do it in her off season she would have had to wait 9 years. Who knows what it will be like for her then.

This was a religious function as well as being a 3 week event. This is why its a sticky situation.

Its also pretty obvious the venom about her being a Muslim. In my eyes at least.

AAAAAAWWWWW she would have to wait 9 years.

No, if she could afford it she could have put the money away and done it when school was out for summer. Saying she had to go when she WANTED to go is total bullshit.

 

[RadiomanATL]

If she resigned...why is she suing?

I think Ill be 3 weeks late on paying my rent. When the landlord files for me to be removed, Ill sue him. Why? Cuz I was on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem and couldnt be bothered with paying the rent due. Youre the landlord. That ok with you?
Then when you proceed, Ill sue you for stomping on my rights to go to Jerusalem and not paying my rent on time.

She is suing for the same reason a Christian would sue if they were denied any religious event they tried to go to.

Youre argument is pretty weak and the judge would force you to pay.

The Christian would lose the suit.

 

[JScott]

Every teacher cannot. Unless he/she is Muslim. There is an entire dept within the DOJ that promotes the Muslim agenda. With our tax dollars. This case will cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. And if she wins, it will cost employers millions.

Simple solution. Dont hire muslims.

Do Jew get Hanukkah off? Could this be considered discrimination against atheists? Can i start some religion that says i can take a month off whenever i want or see fit to do?

Its PC bullshit.

Why dont Jews get Hanukkah off?

Atheists dont have religious holidays.

You can try but if Jews cant take off for Hanukkah.......

PC bullshit is in the eyes of the beholder.

 

[RadiomanATL]

I didnt quote you as saying those things. You didnt. You did say you were tired of all the foreign stuff, so tired.

Muslims have to do what she did at least once in their lives if they can afford it. She could afford it now so she went.

If she was told she would be terminated if she took off for 3 weeks, then she couldn't really afford it.

 

[syrenn]

If she resigned...why is she suing?

I think Ill be 3 weeks late on paying my rent. When the landlord files for me to be removed, Ill sue him. Why? Cuz I was on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem and couldnt be bothered with paying the rent due. Youre the landlord. That ok with you?
Then when you proceed, Ill sue you for stomping on my rights to go to Jerusalem and not paying my rent on time.

She is suing for the same reason a Christian would sue if they were denied any religious event they tried to go to.

Youre argument is pretty weak and the judge would force you to pay.

The Christian would lose the suit.

So would jews
or buddhists
or scientologists
or any other religion.

 

[RadiomanATL]

She is suing for the same reason a Christian would sue if they were denied any religious event they tried to go to.

Youre argument is pretty weak and the judge would force you to pay.

The Christian would lose the suit.

So would jews
or buddhists
or scientologists
or any other religion.

The law says that an employer must make "reasonable accommodations" to someone's religious beliefs as long as it does not negatively impact the business. And also the religious accommodation must be considered an absolute of their belief. Like, you can't make a Jew eat pork on the job. Or you can't make a muslim eat anything during the day during Ramadan.

We've had people applying where I work that say they must have Sundays off because of church. We don't hire them. Why? Because the weekends are our busiest time. And it's not an absolute precondition of the Christian belief that they must attend church all day on Sunday. Thats just what the applicant wants to do.

 

[JScott]

Its a little sticky but she asked for 3 weeks unpaid leave and when she couldnt get that she resigned.

This country was made up of "foreign" beliefs, Grace. Youre just used to the ones we have.

This was something she had to do for her religious beliefs. I dont see why you people think shes so evil. Wait, shes Muslim....right.....

I dont even believe in any religious hocus pocus but I sure can see how some of you think you have every right in the world to have it your way. F**k the rest, right?

Guess I spoke too soon about no one defending the idiot....

No. It isn't "Fuck the rest" (don't be afraid to spell it)
I don;t demand Sundays off or Easter or, when I worked where they were open for it, even Christmas.

And no it isn't something she "had" to do for her religious beliefs.
She isn't evil. She's the one feeling entitled. How does that reflect on "some of us"?

You may not demand those days off, thats your prerogative. You do get religious holidays if you are a Christian, or not. Paid too. There would be quite a shit storm if they decided to cancel all the religious holidays in this country.

I dont see how she felt entitled when she offered to take unpaid leave. Yes, all Muslims are required to do this at least once in their lives.

The sticky part is the length of time.

 

[Grace]

Its a little sticky but she asked for 3 weeks unpaid leave and when she couldnt get that she resigned.

This country was made up of "foreign" beliefs, Grace. Youre just used to the ones we have.

This was something she had to do for her religious beliefs. I dont see why you people think shes so evil. Wait, shes Muslim....right.....

I dont even believe in any religious hocus pocus but I sure can see how some of you think you have every right in the world to have it your way. F**k the rest, right?

Where did I say she was evil or it was because she is muslim? Link please.
I dont give a damn about her religious beliefs. You dont take 3 weeks off a job without earning it with time earned or it being said AHEAD of time of her hiring. She was told she could not go during that period or she would be terminated. She did it anyway.
The only one making it about her religion is.....hold on...are ya ready?....you.

I didnt quote you as saying those things. You didnt. You did say you were tired of all the foreign stuff, so tired.

Muslims have to do what she did at least once in their lives if they can afford it. She could afford it now so she went. If she were to wait until she could do it in her off season she would have had to wait 9 years. Who knows what it will be like for her then.

This was a religious function as well as being a 3 week event. This is why its a sticky situation.

Its also pretty obvious the venom about her being a Muslim. In my eyes at least.

Yes. I AM tired of it. Im tired of having to punch numbers on a phone just to talk to someone in english. Im tired of women with different faiths wanting their DMV pic taken WITH their scarf hiding their face and saying its only because its against their religion they are told to remove the scarf or no license. Im tired of the USA trying so hard to be PC while everone else stomps all over us. What happened to "Dont Tread On Me"? We are being tread upon big time. And Im tired of it.

Muslims have to do what she did at least once in their lives if they can afford it. She could afford it now so she went. If she were to wait until she could do it in her off season she would have had to wait 9 years. Who knows what it will be like for her then.

Thats her problem. Not our governments. She is taking up space, time and money to sue for something that is ludicrous. And I dont care how long it takes for her to do whatever her faith requires to do. It is not a sticky situation when someone takes almost a month off, is told she will be fired if she does it anyway, does it anyway, gets fired, then SUES.

Its also pretty obvious the venom about her being a Muslim. In my eyes at least

Then your eyes mislead you, at least viewing my stance on this. I dont give a damn if she worships the Flying Spaghetti Monster. If she is told she cannot go AT THAT TIME or else she will be fired, then there is no sticky. No confusion. She was told. Went. Now sues. In MY eyes, she knew beforehand what would happen and knew she would sue after she got what she wanted by leaving a job others are standing in line for.

And what about my rent? Can I not pay it? Or the bank payment for a new car? How about the loan on a house? Will those places wave what is due and will never be replaced just because of MY religion or faith? Dont bank on it. (Pun intended).

 

[JScott]

Where did I say she was evil or it was because she is muslim? Link please.
I dont give a damn about her religious beliefs. You dont take 3 weeks off a job without earning it with time earned or it being said AHEAD of time of her hiring. She was told she could not go during that period or she would be terminated. She did it anyway.
The only one making it about her religion is.....hold on...are ya ready?....you.

I didnt quote you as saying those things. You didnt. You did say you were tired of all the foreign stuff, so tired.

Muslims have to do what she did at least once in their lives if they can afford it. She could afford it now so she went. If she were to wait until she could do it in her off season she would have had to wait 9 years. Who knows what it will be like for her then.

This was a religious function as well as being a 3 week event. This is why its a sticky situation.

Its also pretty obvious the venom about her being a Muslim. In my eyes at least.

AAAAAAWWWWW she would have to wait 9 years.

No, if she could afford it she could have put the money away and done it when school was out for summer. Saying she had to go when she WANTED to go is total bullshit.

She would have to wait 9 years because thats how the Muslim calendar works. In 9 years she would probably have children. She went because she could afford to go. Its very simple. You arent her so how can you judge?

She made the best decision she could, I believe.

 

[JScott]

I didnt quote you as saying those things. You didnt. You did say you were tired of all the foreign stuff, so tired.

Muslims have to do what she did at least once in their lives if they can afford it. She could afford it now so she went.

If she was told she would be terminated if she took off for 3 weeks, then she couldn't really afford it.

She resigned so I dont believe that really matters.

 

[RadiomanATL]

I didnt quote you as saying those things. You didnt. You did say you were tired of all the foreign stuff, so tired.

Muslims have to do what she did at least once in their lives if they can afford it. She could afford it now so she went.

If she was told she would be terminated if she took off for 3 weeks, then she couldn't really afford it.

She resigned so I dont believe that really matters.

Well then if she resigned then she doesn't really have any sort case.

 

[JScott]

She is suing for the same reason a Christian would sue if they were denied any religious event they tried to go to.

Youre argument is pretty weak and the judge would force you to pay.

The Christian would lose the suit.

So would jews
or buddhists
or scientologists
or any other religion.

All conjecture.

 

[RadiomanATL]

Where did I say she was evil or it was because she is muslim? Link please.
I dont give a damn about her religious beliefs. You dont take 3 weeks off a job without earning it with time earned or it being said AHEAD of time of her hiring. She was told she could not go during that period or she would be terminated. She did it anyway.
The only one making it about her religion is.....hold on...are ya ready?....you.

I didnt quote you as saying those things. You didnt. You did say you were tired of all the foreign stuff, so tired.

Muslims have to do what she did at least once in their lives if they can afford it. She could afford it now so she went. If she were to wait until she could do it in her off season she would have had to wait 9 years. Who knows what it will be like for her then.

This was a religious function as well as being a 3 week event. This is why its a sticky situation.

Its also pretty obvious the venom about her being a Muslim. In my eyes at least.

Yes. I AM tired of it. Im tired of having to punch numbers on a phone just to talk to someone in english. Im tired of women with different faiths wanting their DMV pic taken WITH their scarf hiding their face and saying its only because its against their religion they are told to remove the scarf or no license. Im tired of the USA trying so hard to be PC while everone else stomps all over us. What happened to "Dont Tread On Me"? We are being tread upon big time. And Im tired of it.

Muslims have to do what she did at least once in their lives if they can afford it. She could afford it now so she went. If she were to wait until she could do it in her off season she would have had to wait 9 years. Who knows what it will be like for her then.

Thats her problem. Not our governments. She is taking up space, time and money to sue for something that is ludicrous. And I dont care how long it takes for her to do whatever her faith requires to do. It is not a sticky situation when someone takes almost a month off, is told she will be fired if she does it anyway, does it anyway, gets fired, then SUES.

Its also pretty obvious the venom about her being a Muslim. In my eyes at least

Then your eyes mislead you, at least viewing my stance on this. I dont give a damn if she worships the Flying Spaghetti Monster. If she is told she cannot go AT THAT TIME or else she will be fired, then there is no sticky. No confusion. She was told. Went. Now sues. In MY eyes, she knew beforehand what would happen and knew she would sue after she got what she wanted by leaving a job others are standing in line for.

And what about my rent? Can I not pay it? Or the bank payment for a new car? How about the loan on a house? Will those places wave what is due and will never be replaced just because of MY religion or faith? Dont bank on it. (Pun intended).

I'm converting to a religion that says people must allow me to live rent and mortgage free.

 

[JScott]

The Christian would lose the suit.

So would jews
or buddhists
or scientologists
or any other religion.

The law says that an employer must make "reasonable accommodations" to someone's religious beliefs as long as it does not negatively impact the business. And also the religious accommodation must be considered an absolute of their belief. Like, you can't make a Jew eat pork on the job. Or you can't make a muslim eat anything during the day during Ramadan.

We've had people applying where I work that say they must have Sundays off because of church. We don't hire them. Why? Because the weekends are our busiest time. And it's not an absolute precondition of the Christian belief that they must attend church all day on Sunday. Thats just what the applicant wants to do.

I agree with you here. The problem being is this is a major thing for Muslims. I agree it takes 3 weeks and it pushes the limits. Its just sticky.

 

[Grace]

You do get religious holidays if you are a Christian, or not. Paid too.

Really? Since when? The only time anyone gets a religious holiday off work is when the employer shuts the business that day. And no...we damn sure dont get paid unless we are on salary. What world do you live in???

 

[RadiomanATL]

So would jews
or buddhists
or scientologists
or any other religion.

The law says that an employer must make "reasonable accommodations" to someone's religious beliefs as long as it does not negatively impact the business. And also the religious accommodation must be considered an absolute of their belief. Like, you can't make a Jew eat pork on the job. Or you can't make a muslim eat anything during the day during Ramadan.

We've had people applying where I work that say they must have Sundays off because of church. We don't hire them. Why? Because the weekends are our busiest time. And it's not an absolute precondition of the Christian belief that they must attend church all day on Sunday. Thats just what the applicant wants to do.

I agree with you here. The problem being is this is a major thing for Muslims. I agree it takes 3 weeks and it pushes the limits. Its just sticky.

It's a major thing, but then thats why employers give you sick and vacation time.