Monica Crowley: Obama Was Never Vetted Before Attaining The Presidency In 2008

She's right and should know. I can't understand WHY the media refused to vet Obama. If they did like they attempted with Governor Palin, he would have never attained the presidency or even made it through the primaries. There is so much we don't know about Obama and his past.

Confession Washington Times Editor Obama Not Vetted Nobody Allowed Close To Obama Origins - Birther Report

Of course no one vetted him. He was the first AA to run for president and the media was in the tank for him.

I will just point out that once again you just throw out unsupported and unsubstantiated BS, and don't even pretend to address the previous unsupported and unsubstantiated BS you threw out.

Proving once again, Birthers rely upon lies, speculation and innuendo.

It is all they have.
Lets see if YOU relied on speculation and innuendo...

Regarding the then senator Barak Obama as he was being vetted, as you claim.......

1) We heard a lot about Sarah Palin and her years in school and years in the private sector.....yet none of us heard that the only private sector job Obama held following law school graduation was that with a law firm as a contract reader. He was with that firm for 3 years yet never achieved Jr. Partner or partner status. He resigned 3 years later still as a contract reader. Never promoted.

2) As a state senator, His voting record (of votes that he participated in) was 100% party line....yet he claimed to be bi-partisan and no one called him on it

3) As a US Senator, his voting record (of votes that he participated in) was 100% party line....yet he claimed to be bi-partisan and no one called him on it.

4) We heard he was unusually bright....yet no one was able to find out anything about his education years...no friends, no classmates....no one.

So his ability to govern was not vetted; his intelligence was not vetted; his bipartisanship was not vetted; his intelligence was not vetted.

So, in essence, people voted for him based on speculation and innuendo.

In other words....look in the mirror.

Lots of speculation and innuendo there- and all of the issues(not your bizarre claims) were discussed.

But lets start with #4

Because that is such a blatant and typical Birther lie- no need to research the others-

Here is what you claimed:
4) We heard he was unusually bright....yet no one was able to find out anything about his education years...no friends, no classmates....no one.

This is of course a lie- which I expect in true Birther fashion you to ignore, or divert the thread to something else- more lies, speculation and innuendo:

Shall we start with Kindergarten?

Aimee Yatsushiro, Teacher:Kindergarten

Aimee Yatsushiro, a retired teacher from Kahului, served as a student teacher from September to December 1966 at Noelani Elementary School on Oahu. Her supervising teacher was Kazuko Sakai, the primary educator for about 25 students in a kindergarten class that included a boy named Barack "Barry" Obama. "He was a cute, likable, heavy build-child," Yatsushiro recalled. "I could visualize Barry smiling, dressed in his long-sleeved, white shirt tucked into his brown Bermuda shorts, and wearing laced shoes."

"He was a good listener from the time he was little," Yatsushiro said. "I remember him always smiling and observing, just watching all the time, smiling and observing. He didn't have to be the center of attention."


Katherine Nakamoto, Teacher: Kindergarten

Katherine Nakamoto, also a retired teacher now living in Wailuku, coincidentally was assigned to the same kindergarten class, only this time from January to June of 1967. Nakamoto said she never used a nickname for the student. "Wecalled him Barack. . . . He was very well mannered, respectful, confident and independent."

"He (Obama) was always nicely dressed," Nakamoto said as she looked at the old photograph recently. "He wasn't outstanding in any way like being naughty or anything. I just remember him being confident, like the way a president should be."

Obamas-Kindergarten-Teachers.jpg
Obama-kindergarten-picture-2.jpg


High School?

Eric Kusunoki, Teacher: Homeroom

Every morning, for four years, Barack Obama sat in Eric Kusunoki's homeroom class. "I said 'is Barrack Obama here' and he smiled and said 'oh just call me Barry' and it's been Barry ever since," he said. "It's almost unreal to think that someone who came to this school sat in these chairs and walked on this campus is now on that stage," he said.

He says in high school, the president-elect was always smiling and had a lot of charisma, traits he'll take to the White House. "It goes to show you never know, what a country what a country," he said.

Darin Maurer, Classmate

"He was so smart," says teammate Darin Maurer '79, who is now a minister. According to Maurer, one day Obama had a term paper due, so he went home over lunch, typed it out and handed the finished paper in that afternoon. "He wrote it on the typewriter," Maurer marvels, still impressed by Obama's seemingly effortless ability to formulate and organize complex ideas. "It was just amazing he could think that coherently and not rewrite the paper."


Occidental College?

Lisa Jack, Classmate and Photographer
Her life and Obama's intersected at the Cooler, a campus snack shop.

The young woman from Rye, N.Y., loved her psychology courses but cared enough about photography to find mentors on the faculty who tutored her in independent study courses. With a blanket thrown over the couch she recalls as "a plaid horrible thing," the living room of the apartment she shared in a nondescript quadruplex near the campus in Eagle Rock became Jack's makeshift photo studio. Students from her circle of friends and acquaintances would pose for portraits that she would hand in as her weekly assignments.

That day a friend was telling her about a student named Barry she ought to photograph "because he's so cute." Moments later, the man himself walked in. He agreed to the shoot.

There was nothing out of the ordinary about the session, Jack says, although it impressed her that Obama had taken the initiative to bring the big, banded hat, a leather, bomber-style jacket with a fur collar and cigarettes as grist for her lens. "He obviously thought about how he wanted to have his picture taken." Obama shared at least one characteristic with the other students who sat for her portraits: "I think the thing that everybody was trying to portray the most was how cool they were."

It's exciting to see someone I went to college with become President of the United States of America, especially someone who was so genuinely nice and sincere. I would be lying if I were to say I knew him well; but like so many of us in this country, he has had a profound impact on me. I feel honored to have known him and to have been the "keeper of the photos from such a long time ago".

John Boyer, Dorm Neighbor

John Boyer, a skin cancer surgeon in Honolulu, fondly recalled evenings driving around L.A. and sharing pizza near campus. Boyer described himself as conservative politically and opposed to some of Obama's positions, but added, "What I admired about him then and now is that he is a very principled person in how he formulated his views."

When he talked, it was an E. F. Hutton moment: people listened. He would point out the negatives of a policy and its consequences and illuminate the complexities of an issue the way others could not.” He added, “He has a great sense of humor and could defuse an argument.”


Columbia?
Phil Boerner, Classmate and Roommate

I was Barack Obama ’83’s roommateat Columbia College in fall 1981.... We both transferred from Oxy to Columbia i981. Barack had found an apartment onWest 109th Street, between Amsterdam and Columbus, and suggested that I room with him. Our sublet was a third-story walk-up in a so-so neighborhood; the unit next door was burned out and vacant. The doorbell didn’t work; to be let in when I first arrived I had to yell up to Barack from the street

Michael L. Baron, Professor of Political Science

One person who did remember Mr. Obama wasMichael L. Baron,who taught a senior seminar on international politics and American policy. Mr. Baron, now president of an electronics company in Florida, said he was Mr. Obama’s adviser on the senior thesis for that course. Mr. Baron, who later wrote Mr. Obama a recommendation forHarvardLaw School, gave him an A in the course.


Harvard?

Christine Spurell, '91, Classmate, Law Review

Honestly, we were just very polarized on the Law Review, we really were. It's like you go to a college campus, and the black students were all sitting together. It was the same thing with the Law Review; the black students were all sitting together. Barack was the one who was truly able to move between the different groups and have credibility with all of them.

...I don't know what he's like now with conservatives, but I don't know why at the time he was able to communicate so well with them, even spend social time with them, which was not something I would ever have done.
 
So nobody vetted Obama? Really?

So you've never heard of such as Rev. Wright, and Bill Ayers, and the Birthers, and the Indonesian madras school, and Tony Rezco?

Nobody tried to scandal monger those? You people are just still sad that your fake scandals were failed smears.

Good. Obama is supposed to make you sad. That was one of the jobs he was hired to do. Crush the haters.
Wright a racist american hater, was Obama's mentor. Ayers a terrorist american hater and a good Obama friend. You're okay with it, you have no credibility.

All claims the voters heard made by you and your fellow travellers in both the 2008 and 2012 election- and dismissed- so much for not being vetted.
Dismissed?

Yes. Dismissed...not proven wrong.

There is a difference between being dismissed and being proven wrong.

Wright IS an racist American hater. His tapes that he sells makes that clear.
Ayers admits to have been part of the group that used violence and terror to make political statements.

The fact that you dismissed those items is fine.....the fact that the media didn't think much of it is pathetic.

The 'media' covered Rev Wright extensively, including your claims(so much for 'never vetted)- and the voters decided those claims were not important.

Ayers also has been covered extensively- and again the voters decided that Obama knowing Bill Ayers was not an issue.
 
So nobody vetted Obama? Really?

So you've never heard of such as Rev. Wright, and Bill Ayers, and the Birthers, and the Indonesian madras school, and Tony Rezco?

Nobody tried to scandal monger those? You people are just still sad that your fake scandals were failed smears.

Good. Obama is supposed to make you sad. That was one of the jobs he was hired to do. Crush the haters.
Wright a racist american hater, was Obama's mentor. Ayers a terrorist american hater and a good Obama friend. You're okay with it, you have no credibility.

All claims the voters heard made by you and your fellow travellers in both the 2008 and 2012 election- and dismissed- so much for not being vetted.
No, you were to blind to see the dumbass you were voting for and still are.

The majority of voters in both elections disagreed with you. And ignored your lies, speculation and innuendo.
Curious...what was a lie?

Is Wright you average everyday pastor without questionable views?

Or is it that Ayers was a peaceful man?

Or that AYers and Obama did not have a relationship?

Which is a lie?

Well it was a lie when you lied and said:
We heard he was unusually bright....yet no one was able to find out anything about his education years...no friends, no classmates....no one.- that is an outright lie.

It is speculation at best to call Ayers a 'good friend' of Obama's.
 
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Why is this topic still a thing? Why does it matter at this point?

How about a strong, clear vision and plan from the GOP for the future of America?

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The crazies will be bringing this up 20 years from now.
History in 20 years will show how stupid and crazy the Obama supporters are.

History shows us right now how stupid and crazy you sufferers of Obama Derangement Syndrome are.
No, actually history will show how traitorous Obama is, and how stupid his supporters are.

ODS.....you will be looked at like 9/11 truthers.
 
So nobody vetted Obama? Really?

So you've never heard of such as Rev. Wright, and Bill Ayers, and the Birthers, and the Indonesian madras school, and Tony Rezco?

Nobody tried to scandal monger those? You people are just still sad that your fake scandals were failed smears.

Good. Obama is supposed to make you sad. That was one of the jobs he was hired to do. Crush the haters.
Wright a racist american hater, was Obama's mentor. Ayers a terrorist american hater and a good Obama friend. You're okay with it, you have no credibility.

All claims the voters heard made by you and your fellow travellers in both the 2008 and 2012 election- and dismissed- so much for not being vetted.
Dismissed?

Yes. Dismissed...not proven wrong.

There is a difference between being dismissed and being proven wrong.

Wright IS an racist American hater. His tapes that he sells makes that clear.
Ayers admits to have been part of the group that used violence and terror to make political statements.

The fact that you dismissed those items is fine.....the fact that the media didn't think much of it is pathetic.

The 'media' covered Rev Wright extensively, including your claims(so much for 'never vetted)- and the voters decided those claims were not important.

Ayers also has been covered extensively- and again the voters decided that Obama knowing Bill Ayers was not an issue.
Oh bullshit, they mentioned it as no big deal. If a republican went to his church. It would've been breaking news.
 
.

Why is this topic still a thing? Why does it matter at this point?

How about a strong, clear vision and plan from the GOP for the future of America?

.
The crazies will be bringing this up 20 years from now.
History in 20 years will show how stupid and crazy the Obama supporters are.

History shows us right now how stupid and crazy you sufferers of Obama Derangement Syndrome are.
No, actually history will show how traitorous Obama is, and how stupid his supporters are.

ODS.....you will be looked at like 9/11 truthers.
You're the one that elected a lie. Not me.
 
The crazies will be bringing this up 20 years from now.
History in 20 years will show how stupid and crazy the Obama supporters are.

History shows us right now how stupid and crazy you sufferers of Obama Derangement Syndrome are.
No, actually history will show how traitorous Obama is, and how stupid his supporters are.

ODS.....you will be looked at like 9/11 truthers.
You're the one that elected a lie. Not me.

Myself and the majority of voters elected Barack Obama.

And you and your fellow travellers will never accept that.
 
So nobody vetted Obama? Really?

So you've never heard of such as Rev. Wright, and Bill Ayers, and the Birthers, and the Indonesian madras school, and Tony Rezco?

Nobody tried to scandal monger those? You people are just still sad that your fake scandals were failed smears.

Good. Obama is supposed to make you sad. That was one of the jobs he was hired to do. Crush the haters.
Wright a racist american hater, was Obama's mentor. Ayers a terrorist american hater and a good Obama friend. You're okay with it, you have no credibility.

All claims the voters heard made by you and your fellow travellers in both the 2008 and 2012 election- and dismissed- so much for not being vetted.
Dismissed?

Yes. Dismissed...not proven wrong.

There is a difference between being dismissed and being proven wrong.

Wright IS an racist American hater. His tapes that he sells makes that clear.
Ayers admits to have been part of the group that used violence and terror to make political statements.

The fact that you dismissed those items is fine.....the fact that the media didn't think much of it is pathetic.

The 'media' covered Rev Wright extensively, including your claims(so much for 'never vetted)- and the voters decided those claims were not important.

Ayers also has been covered extensively- and again the voters decided that Obama knowing Bill Ayers was not an issue.
Oh bullshit, they mentioned it as no big deal. If a republican went to his church. It would've been breaking news.

Clearly it was before your time.....it was a huge deal- national news.

Or just your ODS flaring up.
 
She's right and should know. I can't understand WHY the media refused to vet Obama. If they did like they attempted with Governor Palin, he would have never attained the presidency or even made it through the primaries. There is so much we don't know about Obama and his past.

Confession Washington Times Editor Obama Not Vetted Nobody Allowed Close To Obama Origins - Birther Report

Of course no one vetted him. He was the first AA to run for president and the media was in the tank for him.

I will just point out that once again you just throw out unsupported and unsubstantiated BS, and don't even pretend to address the previous unsupported and unsubstantiated BS you threw out.

Proving once again, Birthers rely upon lies, speculation and innuendo.

It is all they have.
Lets see if YOU relied on speculation and innuendo...

Regarding the then senator Barak Obama as he was being vetted, as you claim.......

1) We heard a lot about Sarah Palin and her years in school and years in the private sector.....yet none of us heard that the only private sector job Obama held following law school graduation was that with a law firm as a contract reader. He was with that firm for 3 years yet never achieved Jr. Partner or partner status. He resigned 3 years later still as a contract reader. Never promoted.

2) As a state senator, His voting record (of votes that he participated in) was 100% party line....yet he claimed to be bi-partisan and no one called him on it

3) As a US Senator, his voting record (of votes that he participated in) was 100% party line....yet he claimed to be bi-partisan and no one called him on it.

4) We heard he was unusually bright....yet no one was able to find out anything about his education years...no friends, no classmates....no one.

So his ability to govern was not vetted; his intelligence was not vetted; his bipartisanship was not vetted; his intelligence was not vetted.

So, in essence, people voted for him based on speculation and innuendo.

In other words....look in the mirror.

Lots of speculation and innuendo there- and all of the issues(not your bizarre claims) were discussed.

But lets start with #4

Because that is such a blatant and typical Birther lie- no need to research the others-

Here is what you claimed:
4) We heard he was unusually bright....yet no one was able to find out anything about his education years...no friends, no classmates....no one.

This is of course a lie- which I expect in true Birther fashion you to ignore, or divert the thread to something else- more lies, speculation and innuendo:

Shall we start with Kindergarten?

Aimee Yatsushiro, Teacher:Kindergarten

Aimee Yatsushiro, a retired teacher from Kahului, served as a student teacher from September to December 1966 at Noelani Elementary School on Oahu. Her supervising teacher was Kazuko Sakai, the primary educator for about 25 students in a kindergarten class that included a boy named Barack "Barry" Obama. "He was a cute, likable, heavy build-child," Yatsushiro recalled. "I could visualize Barry smiling, dressed in his long-sleeved, white shirt tucked into his brown Bermuda shorts, and wearing laced shoes."

"He was a good listener from the time he was little," Yatsushiro said. "I remember him always smiling and observing, just watching all the time, smiling and observing. He didn't have to be the center of attention."


Katherine Nakamoto, Teacher: Kindergarten

Katherine Nakamoto, also a retired teacher now living in Wailuku, coincidentally was assigned to the same kindergarten class, only this time from January to June of 1967. Nakamoto said she never used a nickname for the student. "Wecalled him Barack. . . . He was very well mannered, respectful, confident and independent."

"He (Obama) was always nicely dressed," Nakamoto said as she looked at the old photograph recently. "He wasn't outstanding in any way like being naughty or anything. I just remember him being confident, like the way a president should be."

Obamas-Kindergarten-Teachers.jpg
Obama-kindergarten-picture-2.jpg


High School?

Eric Kusunoki, Teacher: Homeroom

Every morning, for four years, Barack Obama sat in Eric Kusunoki's homeroom class. "I said 'is Barrack Obama here' and he smiled and said 'oh just call me Barry' and it's been Barry ever since," he said. "It's almost unreal to think that someone who came to this school sat in these chairs and walked on this campus is now on that stage," he said.

He says in high school, the president-elect was always smiling and had a lot of charisma, traits he'll take to the White House. "It goes to show you never know, what a country what a country," he said.

Darin Maurer, Classmate

"He was so smart," says teammate Darin Maurer '79, who is now a minister. According to Maurer, one day Obama had a term paper due, so he went home over lunch, typed it out and handed the finished paper in that afternoon. "He wrote it on the typewriter," Maurer marvels, still impressed by Obama's seemingly effortless ability to formulate and organize complex ideas. "It was just amazing he could think that coherently and not rewrite the paper."


Occidental College?

Lisa Jack, Classmate and Photographer
Her life and Obama's intersected at the Cooler, a campus snack shop.

The young woman from Rye, N.Y., loved her psychology courses but cared enough about photography to find mentors on the faculty who tutored her in independent study courses. With a blanket thrown over the couch she recalls as "a plaid horrible thing," the living room of the apartment she shared in a nondescript quadruplex near the campus in Eagle Rock became Jack's makeshift photo studio. Students from her circle of friends and acquaintances would pose for portraits that she would hand in as her weekly assignments.

That day a friend was telling her about a student named Barry she ought to photograph "because he's so cute." Moments later, the man himself walked in. He agreed to the shoot.

There was nothing out of the ordinary about the session, Jack says, although it impressed her that Obama had taken the initiative to bring the big, banded hat, a leather, bomber-style jacket with a fur collar and cigarettes as grist for her lens. "He obviously thought about how he wanted to have his picture taken." Obama shared at least one characteristic with the other students who sat for her portraits: "I think the thing that everybody was trying to portray the most was how cool they were."

It's exciting to see someone I went to college with become President of the United States of America, especially someone who was so genuinely nice and sincere. I would be lying if I were to say I knew him well; but like so many of us in this country, he has had a profound impact on me. I feel honored to have known him and to have been the "keeper of the photos from such a long time ago".

John Boyer, Dorm Neighbor

John Boyer, a skin cancer surgeon in Honolulu, fondly recalled evenings driving around L.A. and sharing pizza near campus. Boyer described himself as conservative politically and opposed to some of Obama's positions, but added, "What I admired about him then and now is that he is a very principled person in how he formulated his views."

When he talked, it was an E. F. Hutton moment: people listened. He would point out the negatives of a policy and its consequences and illuminate the complexities of an issue the way others could not.” He added, “He has a great sense of humor and could defuse an argument.”


Columbia?
Phil Boerner, Classmate and Roommate

I was Barack Obama ’83’s roommateat Columbia College in fall 1981.... We both transferred from Oxy to Columbia i981. Barack had found an apartment onWest 109th Street, between Amsterdam and Columbus, and suggested that I room with him. Our sublet was a third-story walk-up in a so-so neighborhood; the unit next door was burned out and vacant. The doorbell didn’t work; to be let in when I first arrived I had to yell up to Barack from the street

Michael L. Baron, Professor of Political Science

One person who did remember Mr. Obama wasMichael L. Baron,who taught a senior seminar on international politics and American policy. Mr. Baron, now president of an electronics company in Florida, said he was Mr. Obama’s adviser on the senior thesis for that course. Mr. Baron, who later wrote Mr. Obama a recommendation forHarvardLaw School, gave him an A in the course.


Harvard?

Christine Spurell, '91, Classmate, Law Review

Honestly, we were just very polarized on the Law Review, we really were. It's like you go to a college campus, and the black students were all sitting together. It was the same thing with the Law Review; the black students were all sitting together. Barack was the one who was truly able to move between the different groups and have credibility with all of them.

...I don't know what he's like now with conservatives, but I don't know why at the time he was able to communicate so well with them, even spend social time with them, which was not something I would ever have done.

If you're trying to get through to the birthers, you're fucked from the get go, Sy. What you presented is evidence. And it has nothing to do with the birther conspiracy. The birther conspiracy is about emotion. They're telling you how they feel.

Its more abstract expressionist rhetoric. Its not whether or not the claim is actually true. But whether or not it elicits a feeling that is.
 
She's right and should know. I can't understand WHY the media refused to vet Obama. If they did like they attempted with Governor Palin, he would have never attained the presidency or even made it through the primaries. There is so much we don't know about Obama and his past.

Confession Washington Times Editor Obama Not Vetted Nobody Allowed Close To Obama Origins - Birther Report

Of course no one vetted him. He was the first AA to run for president and the media was in the tank for him.

I will just point out that once again you just throw out unsupported and unsubstantiated BS, and don't even pretend to address the previous unsupported and unsubstantiated BS you threw out.

Proving once again, Birthers rely upon lies, speculation and innuendo.

It is all they have.
Lets see if YOU relied on speculation and innuendo...

Regarding the then senator Barak Obama as he was being vetted, as you claim.......

1) We heard a lot about Sarah Palin and her years in school and years in the private sector.....yet none of us heard that the only private sector job Obama held following law school graduation was that with a law firm as a contract reader. He was with that firm for 3 years yet never achieved Jr. Partner or partner status. He resigned 3 years later still as a contract reader. Never promoted.

2) As a state senator, His voting record (of votes that he participated in) was 100% party line....yet he claimed to be bi-partisan and no one called him on it

3) As a US Senator, his voting record (of votes that he participated in) was 100% party line....yet he claimed to be bi-partisan and no one called him on it.

4) We heard he was unusually bright....yet no one was able to find out anything about his education years...no friends, no classmates....no one.

So his ability to govern was not vetted; his intelligence was not vetted; his bipartisanship was not vetted; his intelligence was not vetted.

So, in essence, people voted for him based on speculation and innuendo.

In other words....look in the mirror.

Lots of speculation and innuendo there- and all of the issues(not your bizarre claims) were discussed.

But lets start with #4

Because that is such a blatant and typical Birther lie- no need to research the others-

Here is what you claimed:
4) We heard he was unusually bright....yet no one was able to find out anything about his education years...no friends, no classmates....no one.

This is of course a lie- which I expect in true Birther fashion you to ignore, or divert the thread to something else- more lies, speculation and innuendo:

Shall we start with Kindergarten?

Aimee Yatsushiro, Teacher:Kindergarten

Aimee Yatsushiro, a retired teacher from Kahului, served as a student teacher from September to December 1966 at Noelani Elementary School on Oahu. Her supervising teacher was Kazuko Sakai, the primary educator for about 25 students in a kindergarten class that included a boy named Barack "Barry" Obama. "He was a cute, likable, heavy build-child," Yatsushiro recalled. "I could visualize Barry smiling, dressed in his long-sleeved, white shirt tucked into his brown Bermuda shorts, and wearing laced shoes."

"He was a good listener from the time he was little," Yatsushiro said. "I remember him always smiling and observing, just watching all the time, smiling and observing. He didn't have to be the center of attention."


Katherine Nakamoto, Teacher: Kindergarten

Katherine Nakamoto, also a retired teacher now living in Wailuku, coincidentally was assigned to the same kindergarten class, only this time from January to June of 1967. Nakamoto said she never used a nickname for the student. "Wecalled him Barack. . . . He was very well mannered, respectful, confident and independent."

"He (Obama) was always nicely dressed," Nakamoto said as she looked at the old photograph recently. "He wasn't outstanding in any way like being naughty or anything. I just remember him being confident, like the way a president should be."

Obamas-Kindergarten-Teachers.jpg
Obama-kindergarten-picture-2.jpg


High School?

Eric Kusunoki, Teacher: Homeroom

Every morning, for four years, Barack Obama sat in Eric Kusunoki's homeroom class. "I said 'is Barrack Obama here' and he smiled and said 'oh just call me Barry' and it's been Barry ever since," he said. "It's almost unreal to think that someone who came to this school sat in these chairs and walked on this campus is now on that stage," he said.

He says in high school, the president-elect was always smiling and had a lot of charisma, traits he'll take to the White House. "It goes to show you never know, what a country what a country," he said.

Darin Maurer, Classmate

"He was so smart," says teammate Darin Maurer '79, who is now a minister. According to Maurer, one day Obama had a term paper due, so he went home over lunch, typed it out and handed the finished paper in that afternoon. "He wrote it on the typewriter," Maurer marvels, still impressed by Obama's seemingly effortless ability to formulate and organize complex ideas. "It was just amazing he could think that coherently and not rewrite the paper."


Occidental College?

Lisa Jack, Classmate and Photographer
Her life and Obama's intersected at the Cooler, a campus snack shop.

The young woman from Rye, N.Y., loved her psychology courses but cared enough about photography to find mentors on the faculty who tutored her in independent study courses. With a blanket thrown over the couch she recalls as "a plaid horrible thing," the living room of the apartment she shared in a nondescript quadruplex near the campus in Eagle Rock became Jack's makeshift photo studio. Students from her circle of friends and acquaintances would pose for portraits that she would hand in as her weekly assignments.

That day a friend was telling her about a student named Barry she ought to photograph "because he's so cute." Moments later, the man himself walked in. He agreed to the shoot.

There was nothing out of the ordinary about the session, Jack says, although it impressed her that Obama had taken the initiative to bring the big, banded hat, a leather, bomber-style jacket with a fur collar and cigarettes as grist for her lens. "He obviously thought about how he wanted to have his picture taken." Obama shared at least one characteristic with the other students who sat for her portraits: "I think the thing that everybody was trying to portray the most was how cool they were."

It's exciting to see someone I went to college with become President of the United States of America, especially someone who was so genuinely nice and sincere. I would be lying if I were to say I knew him well; but like so many of us in this country, he has had a profound impact on me. I feel honored to have known him and to have been the "keeper of the photos from such a long time ago".

John Boyer, Dorm Neighbor

John Boyer, a skin cancer surgeon in Honolulu, fondly recalled evenings driving around L.A. and sharing pizza near campus. Boyer described himself as conservative politically and opposed to some of Obama's positions, but added, "What I admired about him then and now is that he is a very principled person in how he formulated his views."

When he talked, it was an E. F. Hutton moment: people listened. He would point out the negatives of a policy and its consequences and illuminate the complexities of an issue the way others could not.” He added, “He has a great sense of humor and could defuse an argument.”


Columbia?
Phil Boerner, Classmate and Roommate

I was Barack Obama ’83’s roommateat Columbia College in fall 1981.... We both transferred from Oxy to Columbia i981. Barack had found an apartment onWest 109th Street, between Amsterdam and Columbus, and suggested that I room with him. Our sublet was a third-story walk-up in a so-so neighborhood; the unit next door was burned out and vacant. The doorbell didn’t work; to be let in when I first arrived I had to yell up to Barack from the street

Michael L. Baron, Professor of Political Science

One person who did remember Mr. Obama wasMichael L. Baron,who taught a senior seminar on international politics and American policy. Mr. Baron, now president of an electronics company in Florida, said he was Mr. Obama’s adviser on the senior thesis for that course. Mr. Baron, who later wrote Mr. Obama a recommendation forHarvardLaw School, gave him an A in the course.


Harvard?

Christine Spurell, '91, Classmate, Law Review

Honestly, we were just very polarized on the Law Review, we really were. It's like you go to a college campus, and the black students were all sitting together. It was the same thing with the Law Review; the black students were all sitting together. Barack was the one who was truly able to move between the different groups and have credibility with all of them.

...I don't know what he's like now with conservatives, but I don't know why at the time he was able to communicate so well with them, even spend social time with them, which was not something I would ever have done.

If you're trying to get through to the birthers, you're fucked from the get go, Sy. What you presented is evidence. And it has nothing to do with the birther conspiracy. The birther conspiracy is about emotion. They're telling you how they feel.

Its more abstract expressionist rhetoric. Its not whether or not the claim is actually true. But whether or not it elicits a feeling that is.

It is just fun to slap Birthers in the face with the very facts they lie about.
 
Of course no one vetted him. He was the first AA to run for president and the media was in the tank for him.

I will just point out that once again you just throw out unsupported and unsubstantiated BS, and don't even pretend to address the previous unsupported and unsubstantiated BS you threw out.

Proving once again, Birthers rely upon lies, speculation and innuendo.

It is all they have.
Lets see if YOU relied on speculation and innuendo...

Regarding the then senator Barak Obama as he was being vetted, as you claim.......

1) We heard a lot about Sarah Palin and her years in school and years in the private sector.....yet none of us heard that the only private sector job Obama held following law school graduation was that with a law firm as a contract reader. He was with that firm for 3 years yet never achieved Jr. Partner or partner status. He resigned 3 years later still as a contract reader. Never promoted.

2) As a state senator, His voting record (of votes that he participated in) was 100% party line....yet he claimed to be bi-partisan and no one called him on it

3) As a US Senator, his voting record (of votes that he participated in) was 100% party line....yet he claimed to be bi-partisan and no one called him on it.

4) We heard he was unusually bright....yet no one was able to find out anything about his education years...no friends, no classmates....no one.

So his ability to govern was not vetted; his intelligence was not vetted; his bipartisanship was not vetted; his intelligence was not vetted.

So, in essence, people voted for him based on speculation and innuendo.

In other words....look in the mirror.

Lots of speculation and innuendo there- and all of the issues(not your bizarre claims) were discussed.

But lets start with #4

Because that is such a blatant and typical Birther lie- no need to research the others-

Here is what you claimed:
4) We heard he was unusually bright....yet no one was able to find out anything about his education years...no friends, no classmates....no one.

This is of course a lie- which I expect in true Birther fashion you to ignore, or divert the thread to something else- more lies, speculation and innuendo:

Shall we start with Kindergarten?

Aimee Yatsushiro, Teacher:Kindergarten

Aimee Yatsushiro, a retired teacher from Kahului, served as a student teacher from September to December 1966 at Noelani Elementary School on Oahu. Her supervising teacher was Kazuko Sakai, the primary educator for about 25 students in a kindergarten class that included a boy named Barack "Barry" Obama. "He was a cute, likable, heavy build-child," Yatsushiro recalled. "I could visualize Barry smiling, dressed in his long-sleeved, white shirt tucked into his brown Bermuda shorts, and wearing laced shoes."

"He was a good listener from the time he was little," Yatsushiro said. "I remember him always smiling and observing, just watching all the time, smiling and observing. He didn't have to be the center of attention."


Katherine Nakamoto, Teacher: Kindergarten

Katherine Nakamoto, also a retired teacher now living in Wailuku, coincidentally was assigned to the same kindergarten class, only this time from January to June of 1967. Nakamoto said she never used a nickname for the student. "Wecalled him Barack. . . . He was very well mannered, respectful, confident and independent."

"He (Obama) was always nicely dressed," Nakamoto said as she looked at the old photograph recently. "He wasn't outstanding in any way like being naughty or anything. I just remember him being confident, like the way a president should be."

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High School?

Eric Kusunoki, Teacher: Homeroom

Every morning, for four years, Barack Obama sat in Eric Kusunoki's homeroom class. "I said 'is Barrack Obama here' and he smiled and said 'oh just call me Barry' and it's been Barry ever since," he said. "It's almost unreal to think that someone who came to this school sat in these chairs and walked on this campus is now on that stage," he said.

He says in high school, the president-elect was always smiling and had a lot of charisma, traits he'll take to the White House. "It goes to show you never know, what a country what a country," he said.

Darin Maurer, Classmate

"He was so smart," says teammate Darin Maurer '79, who is now a minister. According to Maurer, one day Obama had a term paper due, so he went home over lunch, typed it out and handed the finished paper in that afternoon. "He wrote it on the typewriter," Maurer marvels, still impressed by Obama's seemingly effortless ability to formulate and organize complex ideas. "It was just amazing he could think that coherently and not rewrite the paper."


Occidental College?

Lisa Jack, Classmate and Photographer
Her life and Obama's intersected at the Cooler, a campus snack shop.

The young woman from Rye, N.Y., loved her psychology courses but cared enough about photography to find mentors on the faculty who tutored her in independent study courses. With a blanket thrown over the couch she recalls as "a plaid horrible thing," the living room of the apartment she shared in a nondescript quadruplex near the campus in Eagle Rock became Jack's makeshift photo studio. Students from her circle of friends and acquaintances would pose for portraits that she would hand in as her weekly assignments.

That day a friend was telling her about a student named Barry she ought to photograph "because he's so cute." Moments later, the man himself walked in. He agreed to the shoot.

There was nothing out of the ordinary about the session, Jack says, although it impressed her that Obama had taken the initiative to bring the big, banded hat, a leather, bomber-style jacket with a fur collar and cigarettes as grist for her lens. "He obviously thought about how he wanted to have his picture taken." Obama shared at least one characteristic with the other students who sat for her portraits: "I think the thing that everybody was trying to portray the most was how cool they were."

It's exciting to see someone I went to college with become President of the United States of America, especially someone who was so genuinely nice and sincere. I would be lying if I were to say I knew him well; but like so many of us in this country, he has had a profound impact on me. I feel honored to have known him and to have been the "keeper of the photos from such a long time ago".

John Boyer, Dorm Neighbor

John Boyer, a skin cancer surgeon in Honolulu, fondly recalled evenings driving around L.A. and sharing pizza near campus. Boyer described himself as conservative politically and opposed to some of Obama's positions, but added, "What I admired about him then and now is that he is a very principled person in how he formulated his views."

When he talked, it was an E. F. Hutton moment: people listened. He would point out the negatives of a policy and its consequences and illuminate the complexities of an issue the way others could not.” He added, “He has a great sense of humor and could defuse an argument.”


Columbia?
Phil Boerner, Classmate and Roommate

I was Barack Obama ’83’s roommateat Columbia College in fall 1981.... We both transferred from Oxy to Columbia i981. Barack had found an apartment onWest 109th Street, between Amsterdam and Columbus, and suggested that I room with him. Our sublet was a third-story walk-up in a so-so neighborhood; the unit next door was burned out and vacant. The doorbell didn’t work; to be let in when I first arrived I had to yell up to Barack from the street

Michael L. Baron, Professor of Political Science

One person who did remember Mr. Obama wasMichael L. Baron,who taught a senior seminar on international politics and American policy. Mr. Baron, now president of an electronics company in Florida, said he was Mr. Obama’s adviser on the senior thesis for that course. Mr. Baron, who later wrote Mr. Obama a recommendation forHarvardLaw School, gave him an A in the course.


Harvard?

Christine Spurell, '91, Classmate, Law Review

Honestly, we were just very polarized on the Law Review, we really were. It's like you go to a college campus, and the black students were all sitting together. It was the same thing with the Law Review; the black students were all sitting together. Barack was the one who was truly able to move between the different groups and have credibility with all of them.

...I don't know what he's like now with conservatives, but I don't know why at the time he was able to communicate so well with them, even spend social time with them, which was not something I would ever have done.

If you're trying to get through to the birthers, you're fucked from the get go, Sy. What you presented is evidence. And it has nothing to do with the birther conspiracy. The birther conspiracy is about emotion. They're telling you how they feel.

Its more abstract expressionist rhetoric. Its not whether or not the claim is actually true. But whether or not it elicits a feeling that is.

It is just fun to slap Birthers in the face with the very facts they lie about.

Better than Mo slapping Larry and Curly with swing of his arm!
 
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. Obama had something to do with so many people believing he was a Kenyan and he ain't talking. .

Obama wasn't the one spreading the rumors that he was Kenyan- that was all Birthers. You folks have been spreading that lie since 2008.


Wrong again. Hillary started asking questions after discovering that he claimed to be a Kenyan student, Kenyan author and Kenyan senator. Talk to the bitch about what she found out.
 
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. Obama had something to do with so many people believing he was a Kenyan and he ain't talking. .

Obama wasn't the one spreading the rumors that he was Kenyan- that was all Birthers. You folks have been spreading that lie since 2008.


Wrong again. Hillary started asking questions after discovering that he claimed to be a Kenyan student, Kenyan author and Kenyan senator. Talk to the bitch about what she found out.

Just more Birther lies- once again you provide nothing about the usual Birther lies.

That is all you have provided is lies, speculation and innuendo.
 
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. Obama had something to do with so many people believing he was a Kenyan and he ain't talking. .

Obama wasn't the one spreading the rumors that he was Kenyan- that was all Birthers. You folks have been spreading that lie since 2008.


Wrong again. Hillary started asking questions after discovering that he claimed to be a Kenyan student, Kenyan author and Kenyan senator. Talk to the bitch about what she found out.
Wrong again, it was the freepers who started the born in Kenya rumor.
 
So nobody vetted Obama? Really?

So you've never heard of such as Rev. Wright, and Bill Ayers, and the Birthers, and the Indonesian madras school, and Tony Rezco?

Nobody tried to scandal monger those? You people are just still sad that your fake scandals were failed smears.

Good. Obama is supposed to make you sad. That was one of the jobs he was hired to do. Crush the haters.
Wright a racist american hater, was Obama's mentor. Ayers a terrorist american hater and a good Obama friend. You're okay with it, you have no credibility.

All claims the voters heard made by you and your fellow travellers in both the 2008 and 2012 election- and dismissed- so much for not being vetted.
No, you were to blind to see the dumbass you were voting for and still are.

He's there to make RWnuts like you sad. That's what he was elected to do. Of course you're going to badmouth him. He makes you cry because he stopped the RWnut agenda in its tracks.
 
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. Obama had something to do with so many people believing he was a Kenyan and he ain't talking. .

Obama wasn't the one spreading the rumors that he was Kenyan- that was all Birthers. You folks have been spreading that lie since 2008.


Wrong again. Hillary started asking questions after discovering that he claimed to be a Kenyan student, Kenyan author and Kenyan senator. Talk to the bitch about what she found out.

Another precious RWnut myth.
 
So nobody vetted Obama? Really?

So you've never heard of such as Rev. Wright, and Bill Ayers, and the Birthers, and the Indonesian madras school, and Tony Rezco?

Nobody tried to scandal monger those? You people are just still sad that your fake scandals were failed smears.

Good. Obama is supposed to make you sad. That was one of the jobs he was hired to do. Crush the haters.
Wright a racist american hater, was Obama's mentor. Ayers a terrorist american hater and a good Obama friend. You're okay with it, you have no credibility.

All claims the voters heard made by you and your fellow travellers in both the 2008 and 2012 election- and dismissed- so much for not being vetted.
No, you were to blind to see the dumbass you were voting for and still are.

He's there to make RWnuts like you sad. That's what he was elected to do. Of course you're going to badmouth him. He makes you cry because he stopped the RWnut agenda in its tracks.
Yep we know that dumbass. You voted Obama in to make us sad. Not to do the work for Americans. That's the reason he is a failure he is. He was a community agitator, and you are a dumbass for telling everyone on here what the liberal agenda really is. To divide the country and that is Obama's biggest success.
 
And just to remind everyone:

All of those who are cheering on Stevie's OP and thread-
Stevie is a racist who believes that all black men want to rape white women
Stevie is an antisemite who believes Jews are out to control the world.
Stevie is a homophobe who believes homosexuals are evil.
And Stevie is a Birther.

So all of you Birthers out there- stand up proudly next to Stevie- show us all who you are proud to agree with.
 
So nobody vetted Obama? Really?

So you've never heard of such as Rev. Wright, and Bill Ayers, and the Birthers, and the Indonesian madras school, and Tony Rezco?

Nobody tried to scandal monger those? You people are just still sad that your fake scandals were failed smears.

Good. Obama is supposed to make you sad. That was one of the jobs he was hired to do. Crush the haters.
Wright a racist american hater, was Obama's mentor. Ayers a terrorist american hater and a good Obama friend. You're okay with it, you have no credibility.

All claims the voters heard made by you and your fellow travellers in both the 2008 and 2012 election- and dismissed- so much for not being vetted.
No, you were to blind to see the dumbass you were voting for and still are.

He's there to make RWnuts like you sad. That's what he was elected to do. Of course you're going to badmouth him. He makes you cry because he stopped the RWnut agenda in its tracks.
Yep we know that dumbass. You voted Obama in to make us sad..

No, we didn't vote him in to make you said.

That was just an unintended but pleasant benefit.
 

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