Mitt Romney says Barack Obama has 'doubled' the deficit

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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...romney-says-barack-obama-has-doubled-deficit/

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During the first presidential debate in Denver, Mitt Romney took President Barack Obama to task for his record on the deficit.

"The president said he’d cut the deficit in half," Romney said. "Unfortunately, he doubled it."

We already ruled the first half of this statement True, noting that Obama said on Feb. 23, 2009, "Today I am pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office."

But what about Romney’s second claim, that Obama "doubled" the deficit he inherited?

Romney is way off.

The final Congressional Budget Office baseline deficit projection before Obama took office -- noted in table 5 in this January 2009 CBO report -- showed a fiscal year 2009 deficit of $1.19 trillion.

That figure doesn’t account for any of Obama’s own spending initiatives, such as the stimulus bill. But the deficit grew quickly under Obama: The fiscal 2009 deficit rose to $1.41 trillion and has remained above $1 trillion annually ever since.

But compared to what Obama inherited, the annual deficit has gone down slightly. CBO projects that for fiscal 2012, which has just ended, the fiscal 2012 deficit will be $1.09 trillion.

So, far from doubling the deficit, Obama (along with, it should be noted, some Republican help in Congress) has instead reduced the deficit by about 8 percent.

The only way to get to doubling is to use a different starting point, which is what the Romney campaign does. His campaign compares the current deficit to the final fiscal 2008 deficit of $458.6 billion.

But we don't find that to be the correct starting point.

Romney was referring to a statement Obama made on Feb. 23, 2009, so the correct comparison would be the deficit at that point. The 2008 deficit covered a fiscal year that ended about four months before Obama took office -- and which was also a period of rapid economic deterioration that affected the scale of CBO’s deficit projections. So CBO’s January 2009 figure offers a much more accurate indication of what Obama "inherited" -- which, we should repeat, is the word Obama used in his broken promise of February 2009.

Romney would still have been off if he had said the federal debt, rather than deficit, had doubled on Obama’s watch. The debt held by the public -- one of two key measures of federal debt -- rose from $6.3 trillion on Jan. 20, 2009, to $11.3 trillion on the day of the debate, an increase of 79 percent. The total federal debt, which includes debt the government holds itself, rose by a smaller amount over that period, 53 percent.

Our ruling

Romney said that Obama has "doubled" the deficit. In reality, using the most appropriate comparison, he and Congress have actually decreased the deficit slightly. We rate Romney’s statement False.
 
Not counting additional spending (such as the so-called stimulus) as part of the deficit is BS. Money doesn't grow on trees. Obama needs to be accountable for every dollar he spends and we are not going to let you libs use non GAAP accounting techniques to justify your lies.
 
It's good of you to bring this up. A discussion on how much Obama has raised the deficit is important in regards to re-electing him for a second term I believe..

mmm.. I guess, Obama should have pointed this out during the debate but I would hope the liberal media really goes after Romney over this again and again and again and again and again etc.
 
Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

01/21/2009
10,625,053,544,309.79

10/04/2012
16,161,879,857,156.66

Time machine:

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It's amazing to watch. I mean__ It's sickening how we lose a million dollars in only a matter of seconds.

And by my math, it looks like Obama will have increased the debt by plus $7 trillion in two years. I don't need fancy gimmicks to tell me that's not the case. And none of that is before the monstrosity that is Obamacare goes into effect. I'm telling you, we'll be in for it if we let this amateur have a second term.
 
I find it funny when the left get bent out of shape by a 'lie' from the right. These are the same posters who defend the lies of the left.

If you dislike lies, dislike them from wherever they originate. Otherwise, you are a mindless moron.
 
I find it funny when the left get bent out of shape by a 'lie' from the right. These are the same posters who defend the lies of the left.

If you dislike lies, dislike them from wherever they originate. Otherwise, you are a mindless moron.

Not just one "lie", but multiple lies being spewed from the asshat constantly.
Just HOW MANY TIMES is he going to flop and lie again?
 
I find it funny when the left get bent out of shape by a 'lie' from the right. These are the same posters who defend the lies of the left.

If you dislike lies, dislike them from wherever they originate. Otherwise, you are a mindless moron.

Not just one "lie", but multiple lies being spewed from the asshat constantly.
Just HOW MANY TIMES is he going to flop and lie again?

The point is Democrats have no standing politically when it comes to judgements on flip flops or lies without admitting complete hypocrisy..just sayin
 
The Left: Say anything for the Agenda. Worry about it later. Okay spin that now. Oh shit... Obby just got his Clock Cleaned! Drop the unemployment number to 7.8.. Don't worry about the number we'll spin the push back.

For the Left, Keep digging sports!!

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I find it funny when the left get bent out of shape by a 'lie' from the right. These are the same posters who defend the lies of the left.

If you dislike lies, dislike them from wherever they originate. Otherwise, you are a mindless moron.

So you dislike all of Romney's lying, but you'll still vote for him, right?

And I've yet to see her call him out for his lies once. That would make her.....let me check...oh that's right, a mindless moron.
 
I find it funny when the left get bent out of shape by a 'lie' from the right. These are the same posters who defend the lies of the left.

If you dislike lies, dislike them from wherever they originate. Otherwise, you are a mindless moron.

So you dislike all of Romney's lying, but you'll still vote for him, right?

And I've yet to see her call him out for his lies once. That would make her.....let me check...oh that's right, a mindless moron.

What? No...you're just a "partisan hack" to say something like that.
 
You have to take into account that between FY 2008 and FY 2009,

revenues fell 421 billion. You can't hold Obama accountable for that in any way.
 
I find it funny when the left get bent out of shape by a 'lie' from the right. These are the same posters who defend the lies of the left.

If you dislike lies, dislike them from wherever they originate. Otherwise, you are a mindless moron.

You almost never make posts like the above where conservatives are the target. That would make you a moron by your own standards wouldn't it?
 
The 2008 deficit covered a fiscal year that ended about four months before Obama took office -- and which was also a period of rapid economic deterioration that affected the scale of CBO’s deficit projections. So CBO’s January 2009 figure offers a much more accurate indication of what Obama "inherited"

I disagree. It's a MORE CONVENIENT figure for the President.

What's really important is how much has been added to the debt. By that measure, Obama is the King.
 
PolitiFact | Mitt Romney says Barack Obama has 'doubled' the deficit

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During the first presidential debate in Denver, Mitt Romney took President Barack Obama to task for his record on the deficit.

"The president said he’d cut the deficit in half," Romney said. "Unfortunately, he doubled it."

We already ruled the first half of this statement True, noting that Obama said on Feb. 23, 2009, "Today I am pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office."

But what about Romney’s second claim, that Obama "doubled" the deficit he inherited?

Romney is way off.

The final Congressional Budget Office baseline deficit projection before Obama took office -- noted in table 5 in this January 2009 CBO report -- showed a fiscal year 2009 deficit of $1.19 trillion.

That figure doesn’t account for any of Obama’s own spending initiatives, such as the stimulus bill. But the deficit grew quickly under Obama: The fiscal 2009 deficit rose to $1.41 trillion and has remained above $1 trillion annually ever since.

But compared to what Obama inherited, the annual deficit has gone down slightly. CBO projects that for fiscal 2012, which has just ended, the fiscal 2012 deficit will be $1.09 trillion.

So, far from doubling the deficit, Obama (along with, it should be noted, some Republican help in Congress) has instead reduced the deficit by about 8 percent.

The only way to get to doubling is to use a different starting point, which is what the Romney campaign does. His campaign compares the current deficit to the final fiscal 2008 deficit of $458.6 billion.

But we don't find that to be the correct starting point.

Romney was referring to a statement Obama made on Feb. 23, 2009, so the correct comparison would be the deficit at that point. The 2008 deficit covered a fiscal year that ended about four months before Obama took office -- and which was also a period of rapid economic deterioration that affected the scale of CBO’s deficit projections. So CBO’s January 2009 figure offers a much more accurate indication of what Obama "inherited" -- which, we should repeat, is the word Obama used in his broken promise of February 2009.

Romney would still have been off if he had said the federal debt, rather than deficit, had doubled on Obama’s watch. The debt held by the public -- one of two key measures of federal debt -- rose from $6.3 trillion on Jan. 20, 2009, to $11.3 trillion on the day of the debate, an increase of 79 percent. The total federal debt, which includes debt the government holds itself, rose by a smaller amount over that period, 53 percent.

Our ruling

Romney said that Obama has "doubled" the deficit. In reality, using the most appropriate comparison, he and Congress have actually decreased the deficit slightly. We rate Romney’s statement False.


Obama added huge spending increases to the 2009 budget before he signed it into law:

President Obama Signs FY 2009 Omnibus Budget Bill
Written by Michael Wero
Friday, 13 March 2009 14:29



'It was supposed to have been completed last fall, but Democrats opted against election-year battles with Republicans and former President George W. Bush.'


[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29632177/]Obama signs massive, 'imperfect' spending bill - politics - White House | NBC News




'Feb 26, 2009
OBAMA 2009 BUDGET PROJECTS DEFICIT OF $1.75 TRILLION

President calls for fiscal responsibility and hard choices, but not yet.

Washington, DC - President Obama’s $3.5 trillion 2009 budget will spend money today and burden taxpayers for generations. Under the Presidents proposal, spending will increase to nearly 35 percent of GDP, far from the historical norm of 20 percent, and the deficit will soar to 12.3 percent of GDP, levels not seen since the height of World War II.'

http://www.freedomworks.org/press-releases/obama-2009-budget-projects-deficit-of-175-trillion



Our POTUS is a hapless asshole, but not a helpless one.

He doubled the deficit, just like Romney stated.
 
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A second Obama term would double it. He's added on about one and a quarter trillion per year since he took office. On his current path, we'd be well over 20 trillion, something that Romney points out on the stump. It's cute that you folks think you have some sort of big controversy here, but it looks like a simple matter of misspoken tense.
 

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