MIT scientist says the Global warmming believers is like a hysterical cult.

[Crick]

Yet doctored data means nothing to you.

It might if you could show us some doctored data. But you can't. You can just CLAIM its doctored.

How much grant money do you get?

None, of course. And the claim that scientists get rich from grant money is simply an admission that you know nothing about the grant process (or are dishonest)

Or are you invested in the carbon credit scheme?

Aren't you?

Or other green technologies profiting from government monies?

What would be the relevance if he was? I would say it would indicate he put his money where his mouth was or simply more evidence that he actually does believe we need green technologies.

Or just believe every headline you read without researching their accuracy?

Like the one here claiming Richard Lindzen is some sort of climate expert and that his denialist contentions have some merit?

 

[Muhammed]

LOLOL.....I know what un-reasonable and very ignorant and very ideologically driven people do when the facts don't match their crackpot 'theories'....they go into deep denial of reality and latch onto insane conspiracy theories to explain away the fact that all of the scientific experts affirm just the opposite of the anti-science drivel they've been duped into believing.....I've been watching you demented denier cult retards do this for years...

In the real world...

No Pause in Global Warming
A new study suggests that global warming continues to steadily increase
Scientific American
June 4, 2015
(excerpts)

A revised analysis shows a slight recent uptick in the global average temperature. Credit: NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information

“There is no slowdown in global warming,” Russell Vose, the head of the climate science division at the National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI), said. “Or stated differently, the trend over the past decade and half is in line with the trend since 1950.”

Temperatures have warmed 1.6°F since the 1880s. Projections indicate the temperatures could rise as much as 11°F by century’s end if greenhouse gas emissions aren’t slowed and that the rate of warming could reach levels unseen in 1,000 years by 2030s.

One study.

Nope! Wrong again, fecalhead, as usual. There are numerous studies confirming that global warming, or the increase in the total heat content of the atmosphere, the oceans, the land masses, and the ice sheets and glaciers, has continued unabated over the last several decades.

Here's more reports on other studies from several years ago

As Scientists Predicted, Global Warming Continues
Dr.Jeff Masters
MAR 28, 2013 12:52PM

In Hot Water: Global Warming Has Accelerated In Past 15 Years, New Study Of Oceans Confirms
By Dana Nuccitelli
MAR 25, 2013

And the jerky prediction of "RATES of warming unseen in 1000 years by 2030" is a laugh riot.

It only seems funny to you because you're an ignorant retard who can't understand the science. Both the 'rate of warming' and 'future temperature increases' are important parts of this matter scientifically. They covered both. The whole manufactured hoopla over the non-existent 'pause' was about a supposed decrease in the 'rate of warming' over the last (specifically) 18 years compared to the previous several decades. Beginning a trend analysis in 1998, as the denier cult propaganda pushers always do, amounts to a kind of statistical trickery, cherry-picking the hottest year on record by a long shot and then claiming that temperatures since then haven't increased compared to that exceptionally hot year. Of course, starting a trend analysis a few years earlier, or, even better, a few decades earlier (or even a few years later) reveals that the previous upward trend in temperatures was continuing to rise, interrupted by only a sharp upward tick in the graph in 1997-98, but without any real 'pause' afterwards compared to the preceding decade. And, all of that was only the near surface atmospheric temperature record. The oceans were sucking up about 93% of the excess heat energy that the elevated level of CO2 in the air was preventing from escaping into outer space, and they were rapidly heating up, even to unexpected depths. Land surface temperatures continued to increase over this last two decades also, melting northern permafrost areas and releasing methane. Enormous amounts of ice melted over this period too, from the Arctic, Greenland, Antarctica, and the mountain glaciers, absorbing significant amounts of the excess heat energy the atmosphere was retaining.

Note it didn't say TEMPERATURES unseen in 1000 years. Only "rates"

It didn't have to say that specifically, at least for anyone reading it that isn't an ignorant dumbass. Why? Because it said that "temperatures could rise as much as 11°F by century’s end if greenhouse gas emissions aren’t slowed"....and anyone who knows anything about the Earth's somewhat recent climate history, like over the Holocene and the Pleistocene Epoch, knows that temperatures that much hotter (+11°F is enormous, BTW) than the present have not been seen in a very large number of 'thousands of years'; possibly not since the last interglacial period, over a hundred thousand years ago, or possibly much, much longer.

That's really a kick in the teeth to the claims made by Mann and other hockey stickers..

Nope! Wrong again, fecalhead. This whole thing about the accelerating rising temperature trend is actually in total agreement with the sharply rising recent temperature trend depicted in the (multitude of) hockey stick graphs. You have no idea what is going on, you poor clueless bamboozled retard.

You have been fooled. And, you are spewing insults that apply to yourself.

Prove that the Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley and Malcolm Hughes hockey stick is correct!

Go ahead!

I dare you.

Prove it!

Prove that a tree ring is a thermometer.

 

[Muhammed]

Yet doctored data means nothing to you.

It might if you could show us some doctored data. But you can't. You can just CLAIM its doctored.

Bullshit!

Do some research.

I doubt that you are human. So I have no confidence that you are even capable of researching the subject. It would surprise the hell out of me if you could.

 

[Crick]

Don't wast your time insulting me. Find the climate scientist confessing to having doctored the data. Find a climate scientist giving away the conspiracy. Make it real, dude, cause for now IT'S NOTHING BUT A PARANOID FANTASY.

 

[Crick]

Prove that the Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley and Malcolm Hughes hockey stick is correct!

http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg1/

Read it and weep, asshhole.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yet doctored data means nothing to you. How much grant money do you get? Or are you invested in the carbon credit scheme? Or other green technologies profiting from government monies? Or just believe every headline you read without researching their accuracy?

Sure enouh the delusional discount anyone that doesn't agree with their scheme, even when qualified.

People "discount" Lindzen because he has been consistently wrong about many important things, his scientific work is sloppy, and he is in league with the fossil fuel industry. He is not actually very qualified either; he has a degree in mathematics, not any field of actual climate science; he has never worked in climate science...instead he taught at MIT.

Look, Depotoo, instead of just repeating silly slogans from the ignorant right, why don't you post some evidence for your position. There has been posted already in this thread the facts concerning Lindzen's many failures in science. And you answer that with vague unbacked accusations concerning the whole of the field of science. You are making yourself appear to be one ignorant asshole.

 

[Muhammed]

Prove that the Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley and Malcolm Hughes hockey stick is correct!

http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg1/

Read it and weep, asshhole.

The IPCC was proven to be fraudulent several years ago, dumb ass.

 

[cnm]

Do some research.

To support your claim?

You have a denier's understanding of how this works.

 

[Muhammed]

Do some research.

To support your claim?

You have a denier's understanding of how this works.

Wrong.

Hey Mr. doomsday cult member, where's your evidence?

 

[Old Rocks]

LOLOL.....I know what un-reasonable and very ignorant and very ideologically driven people do when the facts don't match their crackpot 'theories'....they go into deep denial of reality and latch onto insane conspiracy theories to explain away the fact that all of the scientific experts affirm just the opposite of the anti-science drivel they've been duped into believing.....I've been watching you demented denier cult retards do this for years...

In the real world...

No Pause in Global Warming
A new study suggests that global warming continues to steadily increase
Scientific American
June 4, 2015
(excerpts)

A revised analysis shows a slight recent uptick in the global average temperature. Credit: NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information

“There is no slowdown in global warming,” Russell Vose, the head of the climate science division at the National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI), said. “Or stated differently, the trend over the past decade and half is in line with the trend since 1950.”

Temperatures have warmed 1.6°F since the 1880s. Projections indicate the temperatures could rise as much as 11°F by century’s end if greenhouse gas emissions aren’t slowed and that the rate of warming could reach levels unseen in 1,000 years by 2030s.

One study.

Nope! Wrong again, fecalhead, as usual. There are numerous studies confirming that global warming, or the increase in the total heat content of the atmosphere, the oceans, the land masses, and the ice sheets and glaciers, has continued unabated over the last several decades.

Here's more reports on other studies from several years ago

As Scientists Predicted, Global Warming Continues
Dr.Jeff Masters
MAR 28, 2013 12:52PM

In Hot Water: Global Warming Has Accelerated In Past 15 Years, New Study Of Oceans Confirms
By Dana Nuccitelli
MAR 25, 2013

And the jerky prediction of "RATES of warming unseen in 1000 years by 2030" is a laugh riot.

It only seems funny to you because you're an ignorant retard who can't understand the science. Both the 'rate of warming' and 'future temperature increases' are important parts of this matter scientifically. They covered both. The whole manufactured hoopla over the non-existent 'pause' was about a supposed decrease in the 'rate of warming' over the last (specifically) 18 years compared to the previous several decades. Beginning a trend analysis in 1998, as the denier cult propaganda pushers always do, amounts to a kind of statistical trickery, cherry-picking the hottest year on record by a long shot and then claiming that temperatures since then haven't increased compared to that exceptionally hot year. Of course, starting a trend analysis a few years earlier, or, even better, a few decades earlier (or even a few years later) reveals that the previous upward trend in temperatures was continuing to rise, interrupted by only a sharp upward tick in the graph in 1997-98, but without any real 'pause' afterwards compared to the preceding decade. And, all of that was only the near surface atmospheric temperature record. The oceans were sucking up about 93% of the excess heat energy that the elevated level of CO2 in the air was preventing from escaping into outer space, and they were rapidly heating up, even to unexpected depths. Land surface temperatures continued to increase over this last two decades also, melting northern permafrost areas and releasing methane. Enormous amounts of ice melted over this period too, from the Arctic, Greenland, Antarctica, and the mountain glaciers, absorbing significant amounts of the excess heat energy the atmosphere was retaining.

Note it didn't say TEMPERATURES unseen in 1000 years. Only "rates"

It didn't have to say that specifically, at least for anyone reading it that isn't an ignorant dumbass. Why? Because it said that "temperatures could rise as much as 11°F by century’s end if greenhouse gas emissions aren’t slowed"....and anyone who knows anything about the Earth's somewhat recent climate history, like over the Holocene and the Pleistocene Epoch, knows that temperatures that much hotter (+11°F is enormous, BTW) than the present have not been seen in a very large number of 'thousands of years'; possibly not since the last interglacial period, over a hundred thousand years ago, or possibly much, much longer.

That's really a kick in the teeth to the claims made by Mann and other hockey stickers..

Nope! Wrong again, fecalhead. This whole thing about the accelerating rising temperature trend is actually in total agreement with the sharply rising recent temperature trend depicted in the (multitude of) hockey stick graphs. You have no idea what is going on, you poor clueless bamboozled retard.

You have been fooled. And, you are spewing insults that apply to yourself.

Prove that the Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley and Malcolm Hughes hockey stick is correct!

Go ahead!

I dare you.

Prove it!

Prove that a tree ring is a thermometer.

Look, you ignorant asshole, I don't have to because more than a dozen independent studies have already done that.

LOLOL.....I know what un-reasonable and very ignorant and very ideologically driven people do when the facts don't match their crackpot 'theories'....they go into deep denial of reality and latch onto insane conspiracy theories to explain away the fact that all of the scientific experts affirm just the opposite of the anti-science drivel they've been duped into believing.....I've been watching you demented denier cult retards do this for years...

In the real world...

No Pause in Global Warming
A new study suggests that global warming continues to steadily increase
Scientific American
June 4, 2015
(excerpts)

A revised analysis shows a slight recent uptick in the global average temperature. Credit: NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information

“There is no slowdown in global warming,” Russell Vose, the head of the climate science division at the National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI), said. “Or stated differently, the trend over the past decade and half is in line with the trend since 1950.”

Temperatures have warmed 1.6°F since the 1880s. Projections indicate the temperatures could rise as much as 11°F by century’s end if greenhouse gas emissions aren’t slowed and that the rate of warming could reach levels unseen in 1,000 years by 2030s.

One study.

Nope! Wrong again, fecalhead, as usual. There are numerous studies confirming that global warming, or the increase in the total heat content of the atmosphere, the oceans, the land masses, and the ice sheets and glaciers, has continued unabated over the last several decades.

Here's more reports on other studies from several years ago

As Scientists Predicted, Global Warming Continues
Dr.Jeff Masters
MAR 28, 2013 12:52PM

In Hot Water: Global Warming Has Accelerated In Past 15 Years, New Study Of Oceans Confirms
By Dana Nuccitelli
MAR 25, 2013

And the jerky prediction of "RATES of warming unseen in 1000 years by 2030" is a laugh riot.

It only seems funny to you because you're an ignorant retard who can't understand the science. Both the 'rate of warming' and 'future temperature increases' are important parts of this matter scientifically. They covered both. The whole manufactured hoopla over the non-existent 'pause' was about a supposed decrease in the 'rate of warming' over the last (specifically) 18 years compared to the previous several decades. Beginning a trend analysis in 1998, as the denier cult propaganda pushers always do, amounts to a kind of statistical trickery, cherry-picking the hottest year on record by a long shot and then claiming that temperatures since then haven't increased compared to that exceptionally hot year. Of course, starting a trend analysis a few years earlier, or, even better, a few decades earlier (or even a few years later) reveals that the previous upward trend in temperatures was continuing to rise, interrupted by only a sharp upward tick in the graph in 1997-98, but without any real 'pause' afterwards compared to the preceding decade. And, all of that was only the near surface atmospheric temperature record. The oceans were sucking up about 93% of the excess heat energy that the elevated level of CO2 in the air was preventing from escaping into outer space, and they were rapidly heating up, even to unexpected depths. Land surface temperatures continued to increase over this last two decades also, melting northern permafrost areas and releasing methane. Enormous amounts of ice melted over this period too, from the Arctic, Greenland, Antarctica, and the mountain glaciers, absorbing significant amounts of the excess heat energy the atmosphere was retaining.

Note it didn't say TEMPERATURES unseen in 1000 years. Only "rates"

It didn't have to say that specifically, at least for anyone reading it that isn't an ignorant dumbass. Why? Because it said that "temperatures could rise as much as 11°F by century’s end if greenhouse gas emissions aren’t slowed"....and anyone who knows anything about the Earth's somewhat recent climate history, like over the Holocene and the Pleistocene Epoch, knows that temperatures that much hotter (+11°F is enormous, BTW) than the present have not been seen in a very large number of 'thousands of years'; possibly not since the last interglacial period, over a hundred thousand years ago, or possibly much, much longer.

That's really a kick in the teeth to the claims made by Mann and other hockey stickers..

Nope! Wrong again, fecalhead. This whole thing about the accelerating rising temperature trend is actually in total agreement with the sharply rising recent temperature trend depicted in the (multitude of) hockey stick graphs. You have no idea what is going on, you poor clueless bamboozled retard.

You have been fooled. And, you are spewing insults that apply to yourself.

Prove that the Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley and Malcolm Hughes hockey stick is correct!

Go ahead!

I dare you.

Prove it!

Prove that a tree ring is a thermometer.

Don't have to, you ignorant asshole. It has been verified more than a dozen time by independent studies.

Climate myths: The ‘hockey stick’ graph has been proven wrong

Details of the claims and counterclaims involve lengthy and arcane statistical arguments, so let’s skip straight to the2006 report of the US National Academy of Science (pdf). The academy was asked by Congress to assess the validity of temperature reconstructions, including the hockey stick.



“Array of evidence”
The report states: “The basic conclusion of Mann et al. (1998, 1999) was that the late 20th century warmth in the Northern Hemisphere was unprecedented during at least the last 1000 years. This conclusion has subsequently been supported by an array of evidence that includes both additional large-scale surface temperature reconstructions and pronounced changes in a variety of local proxy indicators, such as melting on ice caps and the retreat of glaciers around the world”.

Most researchers would agree that while the original hockey stick can – and has – been improved in a number of ways, it was not far off the mark. Most later temperature reconstructions fall within the error bars of the original hockey stick. Some show far more variability leading up to the 20th century than the hockey stick, but none suggest that it has been warmer at any time in the past 1000 years than in the last part of the 20th century.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

​

Here's your global warming

 

[Old Rocks]

Prove that the Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley and Malcolm Hughes hockey stick is correct!

http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg1/

Read it and weep, asshhole.

The IPCC was proven to be fraudulent several years ago, dumb ass.

You make all kinds of silly ass claims, and not one bit of supporting evidence.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

So you don't say?

Climate change: Richard Lindzen and the 'cult' of global warming

• Comments were made by professor of meteorology, Richard Lindzen
• 'Instead of saying, oh, we were wrong, they get more fanatical,' he said
• He says 70% of the Earth is ocean, and measuring its temperature tricky
• He has previously blasted the IPCC for blaming humans for a global warming trend - and then glossing over the warming slowdown

An MIT professor of meteorology is dismissing global-warming alarmists as a discredited “cult” whose members are becoming more hysterical as emerging evidence continues to contradict their beliefs.

During an appearance on this writer’s radio show Monday, MIT Professor emeritus Richard Lindzen discussed the religious nature of the movement.

“As with any cult, once the mythology of the cult begins falling apart, instead of saying, oh, we were wrong, they get more and more fanatical. I think that’s what’s happening here. Think about it,” he said. “You’ve led an unpleasant life, you haven’t led a very virtuous life, but now you’re told, you get absolution if you watch your carbon footprint. It’s salvation!”

Lindzen, 74, has issued calm dismissals of warmist apocalypse, reducing his critics to sputtering rage

See big oil has another denier on their payroll just like the last guy.

 

[Muhammed]

LOLOL.....I know what un-reasonable and very ignorant and very ideologically driven people do when the facts don't match their crackpot 'theories'....they go into deep denial of reality and latch onto insane conspiracy theories to explain away the fact that all of the scientific experts affirm just the opposite of the anti-science drivel they've been duped into believing.....I've been watching you demented denier cult retards do this for years...

In the real world...

No Pause in Global Warming
A new study suggests that global warming continues to steadily increase
Scientific American
June 4, 2015
(excerpts)

A revised analysis shows a slight recent uptick in the global average temperature. Credit: NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information

“There is no slowdown in global warming,” Russell Vose, the head of the climate science division at the National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI), said. “Or stated differently, the trend over the past decade and half is in line with the trend since 1950.”

Temperatures have warmed 1.6°F since the 1880s. Projections indicate the temperatures could rise as much as 11°F by century’s end if greenhouse gas emissions aren’t slowed and that the rate of warming could reach levels unseen in 1,000 years by 2030s.

One study.

Nope! Wrong again, fecalhead, as usual. There are numerous studies confirming that global warming, or the increase in the total heat content of the atmosphere, the oceans, the land masses, and the ice sheets and glaciers, has continued unabated over the last several decades.

Here's more reports on other studies from several years ago

As Scientists Predicted, Global Warming Continues
Dr.Jeff Masters
MAR 28, 2013 12:52PM

In Hot Water: Global Warming Has Accelerated In Past 15 Years, New Study Of Oceans Confirms
By Dana Nuccitelli
MAR 25, 2013

And the jerky prediction of "RATES of warming unseen in 1000 years by 2030" is a laugh riot.

It only seems funny to you because you're an ignorant retard who can't understand the science. Both the 'rate of warming' and 'future temperature increases' are important parts of this matter scientifically. They covered both. The whole manufactured hoopla over the non-existent 'pause' was about a supposed decrease in the 'rate of warming' over the last (specifically) 18 years compared to the previous several decades. Beginning a trend analysis in 1998, as the denier cult propaganda pushers always do, amounts to a kind of statistical trickery, cherry-picking the hottest year on record by a long shot and then claiming that temperatures since then haven't increased compared to that exceptionally hot year. Of course, starting a trend analysis a few years earlier, or, even better, a few decades earlier (or even a few years later) reveals that the previous upward trend in temperatures was continuing to rise, interrupted by only a sharp upward tick in the graph in 1997-98, but without any real 'pause' afterwards compared to the preceding decade. And, all of that was only the near surface atmospheric temperature record. The oceans were sucking up about 93% of the excess heat energy that the elevated level of CO2 in the air was preventing from escaping into outer space, and they were rapidly heating up, even to unexpected depths. Land surface temperatures continued to increase over this last two decades also, melting northern permafrost areas and releasing methane. Enormous amounts of ice melted over this period too, from the Arctic, Greenland, Antarctica, and the mountain glaciers, absorbing significant amounts of the excess heat energy the atmosphere was retaining.

Note it didn't say TEMPERATURES unseen in 1000 years. Only "rates"

It didn't have to say that specifically, at least for anyone reading it that isn't an ignorant dumbass. Why? Because it said that "temperatures could rise as much as 11°F by century’s end if greenhouse gas emissions aren’t slowed"....and anyone who knows anything about the Earth's somewhat recent climate history, like over the Holocene and the Pleistocene Epoch, knows that temperatures that much hotter (+11°F is enormous, BTW) than the present have not been seen in a very large number of 'thousands of years'; possibly not since the last interglacial period, over a hundred thousand years ago, or possibly much, much longer.

That's really a kick in the teeth to the claims made by Mann and other hockey stickers..

Nope! Wrong again, fecalhead. This whole thing about the accelerating rising temperature trend is actually in total agreement with the sharply rising recent temperature trend depicted in the (multitude of) hockey stick graphs. You have no idea what is going on, you poor clueless bamboozled retard.

You have been fooled. And, you are spewing insults that apply to yourself.

Prove that the Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley and Malcolm Hughes hockey stick is correct!

Go ahead!

I dare you.

Prove it!

Prove that a tree ring is a thermometer.

Look, you ignorant asshole, I don't have to because more than a dozen independent studies have already done that.

LOLOL.....I know what un-reasonable and very ignorant and very ideologically driven people do when the facts don't match their crackpot 'theories'....they go into deep denial of reality and latch onto insane conspiracy theories to explain away the fact that all of the scientific experts affirm just the opposite of the anti-science drivel they've been duped into believing.....I've been watching you demented denier cult retards do this for years...

In the real world...

No Pause in Global Warming
A new study suggests that global warming continues to steadily increase
Scientific American
June 4, 2015
(excerpts)

A revised analysis shows a slight recent uptick in the global average temperature. Credit: NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information

“There is no slowdown in global warming,” Russell Vose, the head of the climate science division at the National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI), said. “Or stated differently, the trend over the past decade and half is in line with the trend since 1950.”

Temperatures have warmed 1.6°F since the 1880s. Projections indicate the temperatures could rise as much as 11°F by century’s end if greenhouse gas emissions aren’t slowed and that the rate of warming could reach levels unseen in 1,000 years by 2030s.

One study.

Nope! Wrong again, fecalhead, as usual. There are numerous studies confirming that global warming, or the increase in the total heat content of the atmosphere, the oceans, the land masses, and the ice sheets and glaciers, has continued unabated over the last several decades.

Here's more reports on other studies from several years ago

As Scientists Predicted, Global Warming Continues
Dr.Jeff Masters
MAR 28, 2013 12:52PM

In Hot Water: Global Warming Has Accelerated In Past 15 Years, New Study Of Oceans Confirms
By Dana Nuccitelli
MAR 25, 2013

And the jerky prediction of "RATES of warming unseen in 1000 years by 2030" is a laugh riot.

It only seems funny to you because you're an ignorant retard who can't understand the science. Both the 'rate of warming' and 'future temperature increases' are important parts of this matter scientifically. They covered both. The whole manufactured hoopla over the non-existent 'pause' was about a supposed decrease in the 'rate of warming' over the last (specifically) 18 years compared to the previous several decades. Beginning a trend analysis in 1998, as the denier cult propaganda pushers always do, amounts to a kind of statistical trickery, cherry-picking the hottest year on record by a long shot and then claiming that temperatures since then haven't increased compared to that exceptionally hot year. Of course, starting a trend analysis a few years earlier, or, even better, a few decades earlier (or even a few years later) reveals that the previous upward trend in temperatures was continuing to rise, interrupted by only a sharp upward tick in the graph in 1997-98, but without any real 'pause' afterwards compared to the preceding decade. And, all of that was only the near surface atmospheric temperature record. The oceans were sucking up about 93% of the excess heat energy that the elevated level of CO2 in the air was preventing from escaping into outer space, and they were rapidly heating up, even to unexpected depths. Land surface temperatures continued to increase over this last two decades also, melting northern permafrost areas and releasing methane. Enormous amounts of ice melted over this period too, from the Arctic, Greenland, Antarctica, and the mountain glaciers, absorbing significant amounts of the excess heat energy the atmosphere was retaining.

Note it didn't say TEMPERATURES unseen in 1000 years. Only "rates"

It didn't have to say that specifically, at least for anyone reading it that isn't an ignorant dumbass. Why? Because it said that "temperatures could rise as much as 11°F by century’s end if greenhouse gas emissions aren’t slowed"....and anyone who knows anything about the Earth's somewhat recent climate history, like over the Holocene and the Pleistocene Epoch, knows that temperatures that much hotter (+11°F is enormous, BTW) than the present have not been seen in a very large number of 'thousands of years'; possibly not since the last interglacial period, over a hundred thousand years ago, or possibly much, much longer.

That's really a kick in the teeth to the claims made by Mann and other hockey stickers..

Nope! Wrong again, fecalhead. This whole thing about the accelerating rising temperature trend is actually in total agreement with the sharply rising recent temperature trend depicted in the (multitude of) hockey stick graphs. You have no idea what is going on, you poor clueless bamboozled retard.

You have been fooled. And, you are spewing insults that apply to yourself.

Prove that the Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley and Malcolm Hughes hockey stick is correct!

Go ahead!

I dare you.

Prove it!

Prove that a tree ring is a thermometer.

Don't have to, you ignorant asshole. It has been verified more than a dozen time by independent studies.

Climate myths: The ‘hockey stick’ graph has been proven wrong

Details of the claims and counterclaims involve lengthy and arcane statistical arguments, so let’s skip straight to the2006 report of the US National Academy of Science (pdf). The academy was asked by Congress to assess the validity of temperature reconstructions, including the hockey stick.



“Array of evidence”
The report states: “The basic conclusion of Mann et al. (1998, 1999) was that the late 20th century warmth in the Northern Hemisphere was unprecedented during at least the last 1000 years. This conclusion has subsequently been supported by an array of evidence that includes both additional large-scale surface temperature reconstructions and pronounced changes in a variety of local proxy indicators, such as melting on ice caps and the retreat of glaciers around the world”.

Most researchers would agree that while the original hockey stick can – and has – been improved in a number of ways, it was not far off the mark. Most later temperature reconstructions fall within the error bars of the original hockey stick. Some show far more variability leading up to the 20th century than the hockey stick, but none suggest that it has been warmer at any time in the past 1000 years than in the last part of the 20th century.

Read every one of those several years ago and found that they were not sound science.

And many other geniuses have done the same.

Only idiots gobble that hockey shtick crap.

 

[Muhammed]

So you don't say?

Climate change: Richard Lindzen and the 'cult' of global warming

• Comments were made by professor of meteorology, Richard Lindzen
• 'Instead of saying, oh, we were wrong, they get more fanatical,' he said
• He says 70% of the Earth is ocean, and measuring its temperature tricky
• He has previously blasted the IPCC for blaming humans for a global warming trend - and then glossing over the warming slowdown

An MIT professor of meteorology is dismissing global-warming alarmists as a discredited “cult” whose members are becoming more hysterical as emerging evidence continues to contradict their beliefs.

During an appearance on this writer’s radio show Monday, MIT Professor emeritus Richard Lindzen discussed the religious nature of the movement.

“As with any cult, once the mythology of the cult begins falling apart, instead of saying, oh, we were wrong, they get more and more fanatical. I think that’s what’s happening here. Think about it,” he said. “You’ve led an unpleasant life, you haven’t led a very virtuous life, but now you’re told, you get absolution if you watch your carbon footprint. It’s salvation!”

Lindzen, 74, has issued calm dismissals of warmist apocalypse, reducing his critics to sputtering rage

See big oil has another denier on their payroll just like the last guy.

Hey Chicken Little, you are wrong. If you were smart you would know that you're being brainwashed.

 

[Muhammed]

Prove that the Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley and Malcolm Hughes hockey stick is correct!

Fifth Assessment Report - Climate Change 2013

Read it and weep, asshhole.

The IPCC was proven to be fraudulent several years ago, dumb ass.

You make all kinds of silly ass claims, and not one bit of supporting evidence.

The onus is squarely on your shoulders, bitch, not mine.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Where the fuck is your evidence that man-made CO2 is causing catastrophic global warming?

Where is it bitch?

Put up or shut up.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Check AR4, there's no mention of this magical "warming of the deep Pacific Ocean" that only comes in once they realize there's a 2 decade no warming trend on land. In AR5, they need a big data set to fix their numbers so they add in "excess heat" eaten by the deep ocean. This "excess heat" somehow skipped the atmosphere and went directly to the deep ocean. We all know that we have meticulous records on the deep ocean temperature to the tenth of a degree stretching over the past 150 years, right?

 

[Muhammed]

Some idiotic internet "geologist" thinks tree rings are thermometers.

 

[depotoo]

It has been posted over, and over, and over, and ignored. I've gotten to the point I don't even read most of the threads in here anymore, simply because those of us that do post facts have denier thrown out constantly, rather than anyone taking the time to study the sources we post.

We have said there are natural cycles, yet the agw crowd gets shrill because we don't believe everything is caused by agw. Many in here run wih headlines that are sensationalist, but when you actually go to the research you find they did not say what that headline claims, or they say could, or more data is needed, etc., etc., etc. We correct them, they deny or ignore. IT is a vicious cycle. It just gets damn old.

Yet doctored data means nothing to you. How much grant money do you get? Or are you invested in the carbon credit scheme? Or other green technologies profiting from government monies? Or just believe every headline you read without researching their accuracy?

Sure enouh the delusional discount anyone that doesn't agree with their scheme, even when qualified.

People "discount" Lindzen because he has been consistently wrong about many important things, his scientific work is sloppy, and he is in league with the fossil fuel industry. He is not actually very qualified either; he has a degree in mathematics, not any field of actual climate science; he has never worked in climate science...instead he taught at MIT.

Look, Depotoo, instead of just repeating silly slogans from the ignorant right, why don't you post some evidence for your position. There has been posted already in this thread the facts concerning Lindzen's many failures in science. And you answer that with vague unbacked accusations concerning the whole of the field of science. You are making yourself appear to be one ignorant asshole.

 

[Muhammed]

LOLOL.....I know what un-reasonable and very ignorant and very ideologically driven people do when the facts don't match their crackpot 'theories'....they go into deep denial of reality and latch onto insane conspiracy theories to explain away the fact that all of the scientific experts affirm just the opposite of the anti-science drivel they've been duped into believing.....I've been watching you demented denier cult retards do this for years...

In the real world...

No Pause in Global Warming
A new study suggests that global warming continues to steadily increase
Scientific American
June 4, 2015
(excerpts)

A revised analysis shows a slight recent uptick in the global average temperature. Credit: NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information

“There is no slowdown in global warming,” Russell Vose, the head of the climate science division at the National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI), said. “Or stated differently, the trend over the past decade and half is in line with the trend since 1950.”

Temperatures have warmed 1.6°F since the 1880s. Projections indicate the temperatures could rise as much as 11°F by century’s end if greenhouse gas emissions aren’t slowed and that the rate of warming could reach levels unseen in 1,000 years by 2030s.

One study.

Nope! Wrong again, fecalhead, as usual. There are numerous studies confirming that global warming, or the increase in the total heat content of the atmosphere, the oceans, the land masses, and the ice sheets and glaciers, has continued unabated over the last several decades.

Here's more reports on other studies from several years ago

As Scientists Predicted, Global Warming Continues
Dr.Jeff Masters
MAR 28, 2013 12:52PM

In Hot Water: Global Warming Has Accelerated In Past 15 Years, New Study Of Oceans Confirms
By Dana Nuccitelli
MAR 25, 2013

And the jerky prediction of "RATES of warming unseen in 1000 years by 2030" is a laugh riot.

It only seems funny to you because you're an ignorant retard who can't understand the science. Both the 'rate of warming' and 'future temperature increases' are important parts of this matter scientifically. They covered both. The whole manufactured hoopla over the non-existent 'pause' was about a supposed decrease in the 'rate of warming' over the last (specifically) 18 years compared to the previous several decades. Beginning a trend analysis in 1998, as the denier cult propaganda pushers always do, amounts to a kind of statistical trickery, cherry-picking the hottest year on record by a long shot and then claiming that temperatures since then haven't increased compared to that exceptionally hot year. Of course, starting a trend analysis a few years earlier, or, even better, a few decades earlier (or even a few years later) reveals that the previous upward trend in temperatures was continuing to rise, interrupted by only a sharp upward tick in the graph in 1997-98, but without any real 'pause' afterwards compared to the preceding decade. And, all of that was only the near surface atmospheric temperature record. The oceans were sucking up about 93% of the excess heat energy that the elevated level of CO2 in the air was preventing from escaping into outer space, and they were rapidly heating up, even to unexpected depths. Land surface temperatures continued to increase over this last two decades also, melting northern permafrost areas and releasing methane. Enormous amounts of ice melted over this period too, from the Arctic, Greenland, Antarctica, and the mountain glaciers, absorbing significant amounts of the excess heat energy the atmosphere was retaining.

Note it didn't say TEMPERATURES unseen in 1000 years. Only "rates"

It didn't have to say that specifically, at least for anyone reading it that isn't an ignorant dumbass. Why? Because it said that "temperatures could rise as much as 11°F by century’s end if greenhouse gas emissions aren’t slowed"....and anyone who knows anything about the Earth's somewhat recent climate history, like over the Holocene and the Pleistocene Epoch, knows that temperatures that much hotter (+11°F is enormous, BTW) than the present have not been seen in a very large number of 'thousands of years'; possibly not since the last interglacial period, over a hundred thousand years ago, or possibly much, much longer.

That's really a kick in the teeth to the claims made by Mann and other hockey stickers..

Nope! Wrong again, fecalhead. This whole thing about the accelerating rising temperature trend is actually in total agreement with the sharply rising recent temperature trend depicted in the (multitude of) hockey stick graphs. You have no idea what is going on, you poor clueless bamboozled retard.

You have been fooled. And, you are spewing insults that apply to yourself.

Prove that the Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley and Malcolm Hughes hockey stick is correct!

Go ahead!

I dare you.

Prove it!

Prove that a tree ring is a thermometer.

Look, you ignorant asshole, I don't have to because more than a dozen independent studies have already done that.

LOLOL.....I know what un-reasonable and very ignorant and very ideologically driven people do when the facts don't match their crackpot 'theories'....they go into deep denial of reality and latch onto insane conspiracy theories to explain away the fact that all of the scientific experts affirm just the opposite of the anti-science drivel they've been duped into believing.....I've been watching you demented denier cult retards do this for years...

In the real world...

No Pause in Global Warming
A new study suggests that global warming continues to steadily increase
Scientific American
June 4, 2015
(excerpts)

A revised analysis shows a slight recent uptick in the global average temperature. Credit: NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information

“There is no slowdown in global warming,” Russell Vose, the head of the climate science division at the National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI), said. “Or stated differently, the trend over the past decade and half is in line with the trend since 1950.”

Temperatures have warmed 1.6°F since the 1880s. Projections indicate the temperatures could rise as much as 11°F by century’s end if greenhouse gas emissions aren’t slowed and that the rate of warming could reach levels unseen in 1,000 years by 2030s.

One study.

Nope! Wrong again, fecalhead, as usual. There are numerous studies confirming that global warming, or the increase in the total heat content of the atmosphere, the oceans, the land masses, and the ice sheets and glaciers, has continued unabated over the last several decades.

Here's more reports on other studies from several years ago

As Scientists Predicted, Global Warming Continues
Dr.Jeff Masters
MAR 28, 2013 12:52PM

In Hot Water: Global Warming Has Accelerated In Past 15 Years, New Study Of Oceans Confirms
By Dana Nuccitelli
MAR 25, 2013

And the jerky prediction of "RATES of warming unseen in 1000 years by 2030" is a laugh riot.

It only seems funny to you because you're an ignorant retard who can't understand the science. Both the 'rate of warming' and 'future temperature increases' are important parts of this matter scientifically. They covered both. The whole manufactured hoopla over the non-existent 'pause' was about a supposed decrease in the 'rate of warming' over the last (specifically) 18 years compared to the previous several decades. Beginning a trend analysis in 1998, as the denier cult propaganda pushers always do, amounts to a kind of statistical trickery, cherry-picking the hottest year on record by a long shot and then claiming that temperatures since then haven't increased compared to that exceptionally hot year. Of course, starting a trend analysis a few years earlier, or, even better, a few decades earlier (or even a few years later) reveals that the previous upward trend in temperatures was continuing to rise, interrupted by only a sharp upward tick in the graph in 1997-98, but without any real 'pause' afterwards compared to the preceding decade. And, all of that was only the near surface atmospheric temperature record. The oceans were sucking up about 93% of the excess heat energy that the elevated level of CO2 in the air was preventing from escaping into outer space, and they were rapidly heating up, even to unexpected depths. Land surface temperatures continued to increase over this last two decades also, melting northern permafrost areas and releasing methane. Enormous amounts of ice melted over this period too, from the Arctic, Greenland, Antarctica, and the mountain glaciers, absorbing significant amounts of the excess heat energy the atmosphere was retaining.

Note it didn't say TEMPERATURES unseen in 1000 years. Only "rates"

It didn't have to say that specifically, at least for anyone reading it that isn't an ignorant dumbass. Why? Because it said that "temperatures could rise as much as 11°F by century’s end if greenhouse gas emissions aren’t slowed"....and anyone who knows anything about the Earth's somewhat recent climate history, like over the Holocene and the Pleistocene Epoch, knows that temperatures that much hotter (+11°F is enormous, BTW) than the present have not been seen in a very large number of 'thousands of years'; possibly not since the last interglacial period, over a hundred thousand years ago, or possibly much, much longer.

That's really a kick in the teeth to the claims made by Mann and other hockey stickers..

Nope! Wrong again, fecalhead. This whole thing about the accelerating rising temperature trend is actually in total agreement with the sharply rising recent temperature trend depicted in the (multitude of) hockey stick graphs. You have no idea what is going on, you poor clueless bamboozled retard.

You have been fooled. And, you are spewing insults that apply to yourself.

Prove that the Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley and Malcolm Hughes hockey stick is correct!

Go ahead!

I dare you.

Prove it!

Prove that a tree ring is a thermometer.

Don't have to, you ignorant asshole. It has been verified more than a dozen time by independent studies.

Climate myths: The ‘hockey stick’ graph has been proven wrong

Details of the claims and counterclaims involve lengthy and arcane statistical arguments, so let’s skip straight to the2006 report of the US National Academy of Science (pdf). The academy was asked by Congress to assess the validity of temperature reconstructions, including the hockey stick.



“Array of evidence”
The report states: “The basic conclusion of Mann et al. (1998, 1999) was that the late 20th century warmth in the Northern Hemisphere was unprecedented during at least the last 1000 years. This conclusion has subsequently been supported by an array of evidence that includes both additional large-scale surface temperature reconstructions and pronounced changes in a variety of local proxy indicators, such as melting on ice caps and the retreat of glaciers around the world”.

Most researchers would agree that while the original hockey stick can – and has – been improved in a number of ways, it was not far off the mark. Most later temperature reconstructions fall within the error bars of the original hockey stick. Some show far more variability leading up to the 20th century than the hockey stick, but none suggest that it has been warmer at any time in the past 1000 years than in the last part of the 20th century.

In other words, the hockey shtick was proven to be a hoax many years ago.


Those who can't admit it are ignorant and stubborn scumbags.