Michele Bachmann: Obama Health Care Reform 'The Crown Jewel Of Socialism'

Michele Bachmann: Obama Health Care Reform 'The Crown Jewel Of Socialism'


Do these dumb focking rightwingers know what socialism really is? I guess they think that repeating it over and over again is going to make it true.

Flayo,

Socialism is the government using tax dollars to pay for goods and services for the public. There is a level of socialism in every country including the US of A! I have no illusion that Bachmann is being an extremist with her rhetoric, since the majority of Obamination care is to push more private insurance.

However, I know its hard for you to believe, but this is a step towards getting to a single payor/Universal Healthcare plan. In America it would be near impossible to move to UHC in one step. Obamacare does indeed make more people reliant on government assistance (it would have been much greater if there was the public option)! It also increases the cost of private insurance to individuals and business.

I guarantee, if Obama gets reelected, at least the public option comes back to the table.
 
Giving more customers to private business is not socialism. Not shocking she's using a term she doesn't understand.
 
Michele Bachmann: Obama Health Care Reform 'The Crown Jewel Of Socialism'


Do these dumb focking rightwingers know what socialism really is? I guess they think that repeating it over and over again is going to make it true.



I guarantee, if Obama gets reelected, at least the public option comes back to the table.

We can only hope. Then we can get serious about putting some competition in to the market and reducing monthly premiums.
 
Michele Bachmann: Obama Health Care Reform 'The Crown Jewel Of Socialism'


Do these dumb focking rightwingers know what socialism really is? I guess they think that repeating it over and over again is going to make it true.

Flayo,

Socialism is the government using tax dollars to pay for goods and services for the public. There is a level of socialism in every country including the US of A! I have no illusion that Bachmann is being an extremist with her rhetoric, since the majority of Obamination care is to push more private insurance.

However, I know its hard for you to believe, but this is a step towards getting to a single payor/Universal Healthcare plan. In America it would be near impossible to move to UHC in one step. Obamacare does indeed make more people reliant on government assistance (it would have been much greater if there was the public option)! It also increases the cost of private insurance to individuals and business.

I guarantee, if Obama gets reelected, at least the public option comes back to the table.


Your first focking paragraph is a big time fail and lie, look up socialism, a true socialist country or system doesn't use taxpayer dollars to fund anything and your taxpayer dollars pay for a number of focking things besides so called health care, by your bullshat everything paid for by taxpayer dollars in socialism, don't blow bullshat in my face.
 
Michele Bachmann: Obama Health Care Reform 'The Crown Jewel Of Socialism'


Do these dumb focking rightwingers know what socialism really is? I guess they think that repeating it over and over again is going to make it true.

If you spend money invading another country.....Its PATRIOTISM

If you spend money helping Americans............Its SOCIALISM

Could you please point to the specific wording in the Constitution that says the Federal Government is responsible for 'helping Americans'. Thanks.
 
To the Congress of the United States:

One of the most cherished goals of our democracy is to assure every American an equal opportunity to lead a full and productive life.


In the last quarter century, we have made remarkable progress toward that goal, opening the doors to millions of our fellow countrymen who were seeking equal opportunities in education, jobs and voting.

Now it is time that we move forward again in still another critical area: health care.

Without adequate health care, no one can make full use of his or her talents and opportunities. It is thus just as important that economic, racial and social barriers not stand in the way of good health care as it is to eliminate those barriers to a good education and a good job.

Three years ago, I proposed a major health insurance program to the Congress, seeking to guarantee adequate financing of health care on a nationwide basis. That proposal generated widespread discussion and useful debate. But no legislation reached my desk.

........

CONCLUSION

Comprehensive health insurance is an idea whose time has come in America.

There has long been a need to assure every American financial access to high quality health care. As medical costs go up, that need grows more pressing.

Now, for the first time, we have not just the need but the will to get this job done. There is widespread support in the Congress and in the Nation for some form of comprehensive health insurance.

Surely if we have the will,.........

RICHARD NIXON
The White House,
February 6, 1974.

Those Damn Socialist.

Nixon's Plan For Health Reform, In His Own Words - Kaiser Health News
 
Michele Bachmann: Obama Health Care Reform 'The Crown Jewel Of Socialism'


Do these dumb focking rightwingers know what socialism really is? I guess they think that repeating it over and over again is going to make it true.

If you spend money invading another country.....Its PATRIOTISM

If you spend money helping Americans............Its SOCIALISM

Could you please point to the specific wording in the Constitution that says the Federal Government is responsible for 'helping Americans'. Thanks.



 
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Michele Bachmann: Obama Health Care Reform 'The Crown Jewel Of Socialism'


Do these dumb focking rightwingers know what socialism really is? I guess they think that repeating it over and over again is going to make it true.

You can't say anything about repeating a lie over and over again anymore, because that's a reference to the idea of the Big Lie, which is associated with Nazi propaganda, which means you're comparing Michelle Bachmann to the Nazis, which means it's your fault if someone shoots her.

(that's according to the latest wingnut exercise in 'logic')
 
:lol: This article doesn't even have the best part of her comments. I wonder if she says we should "repeal" President Obama again. The woman has been echoing the same talking points for so long she no longer knows what the word repeal means.

Bachmann: Repeal The Senate To Undermine Socialist 'Obamacare' (VIDEO) | TPMDC

"This is not symbolic, this is why we were sent here and we will not stop until we repeal a president and put a president in the position of the White House who will repeal this bill, until we repeal the current Senate, put in a Senate that will listen to the American people and repeal this bill," Bachmann said on the House floor Wednesday afternoon.
 
Michele Bachmann: Obama Health Care Reform 'The Crown Jewel Of Socialism'


Do these dumb focking rightwingers know what socialism really is? I guess they think that repeating it over and over again is going to make it true.

If you spend money invading another country.....Its PATRIOTISM

If you spend money helping Americans............Its SOCIALISM

Could you please point to the specific wording in the Constitution that says the Federal Government is responsible for 'helping Americans'. Thanks.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
 
Michele Bachmann: Obama Health Care Reform 'The Crown Jewel Of Socialism'


Do these dumb focking rightwingers know what socialism really is? I guess they think that repeating it over and over again is going to make it true.

If you spend money invading another country.....Its PATRIOTISM

If you spend money helping Americans............Its SOCIALISM

One who needs to spin the facts to make a point, does not have confidence in his position.
 
Michele Bachmann: Obama Health Care Reform 'The Crown Jewel Of Socialism'


Do these dumb focking rightwingers know what socialism really is? I guess they think that repeating it over and over again is going to make it true.

If you spend money invading another country.....Its PATRIOTISM

If you spend money helping Americans............Its SOCIALISM

Could you please point to the specific wording in the Constitution that says the Federal Government is responsible for 'helping Americans'. Thanks.

Read the Preamble. The sum total of the intent of the Constitution is to help Americans.
 
If you spend money invading another country.....Its PATRIOTISM

If you spend money helping Americans............Its SOCIALISM

Could you please point to the specific wording in the Constitution that says the Federal Government is responsible for 'helping Americans'. Thanks.

Read the Preamble. The sum total of the intent of the Constitution is to help Americans.

I just posted it for her and highlighted the portion that should, (but won't) shut down that ridiculous argument.
 
If you spend money invading another country.....Its PATRIOTISM

If you spend money helping Americans............Its SOCIALISM

Could you please point to the specific wording in the Constitution that says the Federal Government is responsible for 'helping Americans'. Thanks.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Promote the general welfare means helping Americans where Amercicans can help themselves?

I see it as laying the groundwork so that Americans can help themselves.

Not actually doing it for them.
 
Why can't you rightwing nuts agree that Michelle Bachmann is an idiot?

I have no trouble proclaiming Cynthia McKinney to be an idiot.

Show a little honesty.
 
Could you please point to the specific wording in the Constitution that says the Federal Government is responsible for 'helping Americans'. Thanks.

Read the Preamble. The sum total of the intent of the Constitution is to help Americans.

I just posted it for her and highlighted the portion that should, (but won't) shut down that ridiculous argument.

Promote being the key word RDD...Not "do for" but "promote"
 
If you spend money invading another country.....Its PATRIOTISM

If you spend money helping Americans............Its SOCIALISM

Could you please point to the specific wording in the Constitution that says the Federal Government is responsible for 'helping Americans'. Thanks.

Read the Preamble. The sum total of the intent of the Constitution is to help Americans.

"promote the General Welfare". Key word: Promote. Not provide - you will notice that the founders wrote 'provide for' when referring to defending the nation.

And... the Preamble is not the Articles that gives the Federal Government the responsibility. It is the 'why' of the Constitution..... the 'how' is the Articles.
 
Why can't you rightwing nuts agree that Michelle Bachmann is an idiot?

I have no trouble proclaiming Cynthia McKinney to be an idiot.

Show a little honesty.

Pretty much because I dont see either one as idiots.

I seem them both as passionate for thier position.
 

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