Mexico 'won't pay single cent for Trump's stupid wall'

[CowboyTed]

I don't have to stop on the street. E-Verify can ID who is a citizen and who is not. Not a citizen? No Job. No Job? They aren't going to stay here long - no need to deport. They'll leave on their own.

Not likely? Az passed its own Immigration Law and declared it was going to strictly enforce it. BEFORE IT WENT INTO EFFECT the tidal wave of illegals leaving the state overwhelmed neighboring states to the point they demanded Az stop and asked for help from 'Big Brother'. THEY LEFT ON THEIR OWN. Other states SHOULD have joined Az, but they chose the Obama route.

How is that working so far?

The Opposition to E-Verify is because there is no proper immigration reform... You are intending to wipe out small business and farmers without that...

I am not opposing on E-Verify, I am just points out that the US economy is built on the slave labour of illegal Mexicans with no rights...

If deport them all then prices in the industries they work go up heavily and the US economy suffers badly...

So are you going to have a mass visa program to save these industries and farms? And if so, how is that much different to the system which offers a path to citizenship?

 

[CowboyTed]

Cowboy, to take a page from the Liberal Playbook, Politifact is a left-leaning source, and just because THEY show - out of the things they CHOOSE to 'assess' - Hillary to be 'more honest, doesn't make it so...

...and the American people know it .The latest polls CONTINUE to show the American people in an overwhelming majority think Hillary is the LEAST trustworthy candidate in this entire race.

Considering she is the only one under investigation by the FBI for crimes under the Espionage Act and for potential Corruption crimes AND has been lying her ass off about it, the American People are more trustworthy in THIS case than Politifact.

No... The Factcheckers spend there days checking facts, have you any proof of there bias or is that a another RW Lets pull this out of my ass....

As for the other, Hillary has had more lies told about her than any other active politician in America... Do we need to go through the amount of investigations she has gone through to find nothing... So what have you got that she was guilty off? Proven in court of law not public opinion...

Let me help you, next to nothing... So let's be frank, endless accusations without proof... You are the boys who cried wolf too many times...
Added with all the baseless attacks on Obama the RW and you have lost all credibility, in any other country in the world you would be dismissed as quacks but in America you make good TV...

 

[Vandalshandle]

I don't have to stop on the street. E-Verify can ID who is a citizen and who is not. Not a citizen? No Job. No Job? They aren't going to stay here long - no need to deport. They'll leave on their own.

Not likely? Az passed its own Immigration Law and declared it was going to strictly enforce it. BEFORE IT WENT INTO EFFECT the tidal wave of illegals leaving the state overwhelmed neighboring states to the point they demanded Az stop and asked for help from 'Big Brother'. THEY LEFT ON THEIR OWN. Other states SHOULD have joined Az, but they chose the Obama route.

Odd. I live here and I am not aware of this mass migration to other states. Do you have a link for that? I didn't think so. I sure hope that Pedro, my landscaper, doesn't find out. he has not pruned my citrus trees yet.

 

[leftwinger]

because there is no proper immigration reform...

I don't read any further. No need to reform anything. Enforce the laws already on the books.

 

[leftwinger]

So are you going to have a mass visa program to save these industries and farms?

If we can't get enough Convicts, teens, welfare mothers to pick lettuce then OK, guest worker cards. Sponsored by the employer. Is that so hard? If it brown flush it down.

 

[CowboyTed]

because there is no proper immigration reform...

I don't read any further. No need to reform anything. Enforce the laws already on the books.

So can you tell me when E-Verify was mad federally mandated?

Looks like another trip around bullshit mountain...

 

[CowboyTed]

So are you going to have a mass visa program to save these industries and farms?

If we can't get enough Convicts, teens, welfare mothers to pick lettuce then OK, guest worker cards. Sponsored by the employer. Is that so hard? If it brown flush it down.

All tried and you Americas have rights and stuff...

Illegal Mexicans don't... That's why farmers like Mexicans... Vice did a program on it and the Convicts couldn't keep up with Mexicans... If you want teens to do it, good luck...

Guest Workers get rights too...

You have no solution without tanking the US economy... Illegal Immigration is the US secret slave market...

The US buys drugs and pumps their home land full of Guns which leaves a society which finds it very hard to function... Why don't the US just stop exporting illegal guns to Mexico and stop buying drugs coming through there country?

 

[dannyboys]

Meh, just withhold all foreign aid to the shit hole. They'll pay one way or another

Damn you're stupid! Mexico gets $51 million per year....the wall will cost $200 billion! Much of our food comes from Mexico. Produce and meat. Cut off Mexico and the rest of central and south America will cut off the U.S.....in a trade war the U.S. loses.


In 2013, the United States gave Mexico $51.5 million in foreign aid. Of that amount, $24.8 million, the largest segment, was designated for democracy, human rights and governance. The next largest amount, $10.9 million, was designated for the environment, and $8.4 million was designated for economic development.
How much foreign aid does the United States give to Mexico?

You are the stupid one!
Forget the peanuts the US sends to Mexico to essentially line the corrupt Mexican government officials. It's all for show.
The REAL money the Mexican officials get is from the kick-backs from the Cartels.
Someone explain to me how a simple city mayor in a dusty shithole town in Mexico who 'on the books' is getting 10K a year can live in a million dollar villa with five servants. Send his kids to the best private schools in Spain, has five cars each costing over 100K, spends four months a year 'on holiday' with his EXTENDED family???????????
There are THOUSANDS of officials that live like the millionaires they are because of the Cartels.
If that isn't corruption what is? The Cartels put the fucking mayor in office and as long as he does what they tell him he stays alive.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Down here in Southern AZ, illegals are almost all self employed. They are handymen, painters, gardeners, junk haulers, carpenters, sheet rock hangers, roofers, lawn care, etc., etc. I guess that they are supposed to e-verify themselves.

 

[dannyboys]

So are you going to have a mass visa program to save these industries and farms?

If we can't get enough Convicts, teens, welfare mothers to pick lettuce then OK, guest worker cards. Sponsored by the employer. Is that so hard? If it brown flush it down.

All tried and you Americas have rights and stuff...

Illegal Mexicans don't... That's why farmers like Mexicans... Vice did a program on it and the Convicts couldn't keep up with Mexicans... If you want teens to do it, good luck...

Guest Workers get rights too...

You have no solution without tanking the US economy... Illegal Immigration is the US secret slave market...

The US buys drugs and pumps their home land full of Guns which leaves a society which finds it very hard to function... Why don't the US just stop exporting illegal guns to Mexico and stop buying drugs coming through there country?

Fucking stupid ill informed asshole.
For decades thousands of Mexicans have been following the crops from the south to the north of the US. They have been treated with dignity and they have been hard workers who would then take they pay back to mexico and live normal peaceful lives.
But then the fucking illegals tried to take these jobs by force.
Everything has changed.
Now some crops don't get harvested b/c the legal workers are too frightened to go against what are basically organized crime Cartels.
Now many of these illegals don't give a fuck for the crop, how it's handled They have turned where they were given clean peaceful accommodation into filthy rat infested drug infested shit holes where no female is ever safe.

 

[CowboyTed]

Meh, just withhold all foreign aid to the shit hole. They'll pay one way or another

Damn you're stupid! Mexico gets $51 million per year....the wall will cost $200 billion! Much of our food comes from Mexico. Produce and meat. Cut off Mexico and the rest of central and south America will cut off the U.S.....in a trade war the U.S. loses.


In 2013, the United States gave Mexico $51.5 million in foreign aid. Of that amount, $24.8 million, the largest segment, was designated for democracy, human rights and governance. The next largest amount, $10.9 million, was designated for the environment, and $8.4 million was designated for economic development.
How much foreign aid does the United States give to Mexico?

You are the stupid one!
Forget the peanuts the US sends to Mexico to essentially line the corrupt Mexican government officials. It's all for show.
The REAL money the Mexican officials get is from the kick-backs from the Cartels.
Someone explain to me how a simple city mayor in a dusty shithole town in Mexico who 'on the books' is getting 10K a year can live in a million dollar villa with five servants. Send his kids to the best private schools in Spain, has five cars each costing over 100K, spends four months a year 'on holiday' with his EXTENDED family???????????
There are THOUSANDS of officials that live like the millionaires they are because of the Cartels.
If that isn't corruption what is? The Cartels put the fucking mayor in office and as long as he does what they tell him he stays alive.

Do you live in Mexico?
Are you a politician in Mexico?

This is the rules, take the money or else...
Mexico mayor killed less than a day after taking office

Now where do the Cartels get the money and the guns to bribe and intimidate?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Meh, just withhold all foreign aid to the shit hole. They'll pay one way or another

Damn you're stupid! Mexico gets $51 million per year....the wall will cost $200 billion! Much of our food comes from Mexico. Produce and meat. Cut off Mexico and the rest of central and south America will cut off the U.S.....in a trade war the U.S. loses.


In 2013, the United States gave Mexico $51.5 million in foreign aid. Of that amount, $24.8 million, the largest segment, was designated for democracy, human rights and governance. The next largest amount, $10.9 million, was designated for the environment, and $8.4 million was designated for economic development.
How much foreign aid does the United States give to Mexico?

You are the stupid one!
Forget the peanuts the US sends to Mexico to essentially line the corrupt Mexican government officials. It's all for show.
The REAL money the Mexican officials get is from the kick-backs from the Cartels.
Someone explain to me how a simple city mayor in a dusty shithole town in Mexico who 'on the books' is getting 10K a year can live in a million dollar villa with five servants. Send his kids to the best private schools in Spain, has five cars each costing over 100K, spends four months a year 'on holiday' with his EXTENDED family???????????
There are THOUSANDS of officials that live like the millionaires they are because of the Cartels.
If that isn't corruption what is? The Cartels put the fucking mayor in office and as long as he does what they tell him he stays alive.

Do you live in Mexico?
Are you a politician in Mexico?

This is the rules, take the money or else...
Mexico mayor killed less than a day after taking office

Now where do the Cartels get the money and the guns to bribe and intimidate?

From drug sales? Duh....

 

[CowboyTed]

Meh, just withhold all foreign aid to the shit hole. They'll pay one way or another

Damn you're stupid! Mexico gets $51 million per year....the wall will cost $200 billion! Much of our food comes from Mexico. Produce and meat. Cut off Mexico and the rest of central and south America will cut off the U.S.....in a trade war the U.S. loses.


In 2013, the United States gave Mexico $51.5 million in foreign aid. Of that amount, $24.8 million, the largest segment, was designated for democracy, human rights and governance. The next largest amount, $10.9 million, was designated for the environment, and $8.4 million was designated for economic development.
How much foreign aid does the United States give to Mexico?

You are the stupid one!
Forget the peanuts the US sends to Mexico to essentially line the corrupt Mexican government officials. It's all for show.
The REAL money the Mexican officials get is from the kick-backs from the Cartels.
Someone explain to me how a simple city mayor in a dusty shithole town in Mexico who 'on the books' is getting 10K a year can live in a million dollar villa with five servants. Send his kids to the best private schools in Spain, has five cars each costing over 100K, spends four months a year 'on holiday' with his EXTENDED family???????????
There are THOUSANDS of officials that live like the millionaires they are because of the Cartels.
If that isn't corruption what is? The Cartels put the fucking mayor in office and as long as he does what they tell him he stays alive.

Do you live in Mexico?
Are you a politician in Mexico?

This is the rules, take the money or else...
Mexico mayor killed less than a day after taking office

Now where do the Cartels get the money and the guns to bribe and intimidate?

From drug sales? Duh....

And which countries pathetic drugs policy has caused this...

America exports guns and drug money to Mexico and puts it in the hands of criminals and then blames Mexico because their country is corrupt from intimidation and bribery.

How about stop making Mexico a hell hole... If Mexico's economy was better then less people would want o come to America... Mexico has got better and there net return... It is Central America that is now getting the major treatment...

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Meh, just withhold all foreign aid to the shit hole. They'll pay one way or another

Damn you're stupid! Mexico gets $51 million per year....the wall will cost $200 billion! Much of our food comes from Mexico. Produce and meat. Cut off Mexico and the rest of central and south America will cut off the U.S.....in a trade war the U.S. loses.


In 2013, the United States gave Mexico $51.5 million in foreign aid. Of that amount, $24.8 million, the largest segment, was designated for democracy, human rights and governance. The next largest amount, $10.9 million, was designated for the environment, and $8.4 million was designated for economic development.
How much foreign aid does the United States give to Mexico?

You are the stupid one!
Forget the peanuts the US sends to Mexico to essentially line the corrupt Mexican government officials. It's all for show.
The REAL money the Mexican officials get is from the kick-backs from the Cartels.
Someone explain to me how a simple city mayor in a dusty shithole town in Mexico who 'on the books' is getting 10K a year can live in a million dollar villa with five servants. Send his kids to the best private schools in Spain, has five cars each costing over 100K, spends four months a year 'on holiday' with his EXTENDED family???????????
There are THOUSANDS of officials that live like the millionaires they are because of the Cartels.
If that isn't corruption what is? The Cartels put the fucking mayor in office and as long as he does what they tell him he stays alive.

Do you live in Mexico?
Are you a politician in Mexico?

This is the rules, take the money or else...
Mexico mayor killed less than a day after taking office

Now where do the Cartels get the money and the guns to bribe and intimidate?

From drug sales? Duh....

And which countries pathetic drugs policy has caused this...

America exports guns and drug money to Mexico and puts it in the hands of criminals and then blames Mexico because their country is corrupt from intimidation and bribery.

How about stop making Mexico a hell hole... If Mexico's economy was better then less people would want o come to America... Mexico has got better and there net return... It is Central America that is now getting the major treatment...

I prefer to isolate the third world shithole, they can keep their illegals and their drugs and a fence will go along way in accomplishing that

 

[dannyboys]

Meh, just withhold all foreign aid to the shit hole. They'll pay one way or another

Damn you're stupid! Mexico gets $51 million per year....the wall will cost $200 billion! Much of our food comes from Mexico. Produce and meat. Cut off Mexico and the rest of central and south America will cut off the U.S.....in a trade war the U.S. loses.


In 2013, the United States gave Mexico $51.5 million in foreign aid. Of that amount, $24.8 million, the largest segment, was designated for democracy, human rights and governance. The next largest amount, $10.9 million, was designated for the environment, and $8.4 million was designated for economic development.
How much foreign aid does the United States give to Mexico?

You are the stupid one!
Forget the peanuts the US sends to Mexico to essentially line the corrupt Mexican government officials. It's all for show.
The REAL money the Mexican officials get is from the kick-backs from the Cartels.
Someone explain to me how a simple city mayor in a dusty shithole town in Mexico who 'on the books' is getting 10K a year can live in a million dollar villa with five servants. Send his kids to the best private schools in Spain, has five cars each costing over 100K, spends four months a year 'on holiday' with his EXTENDED family???????????
There are THOUSANDS of officials that live like the millionaires they are because of the Cartels.
If that isn't corruption what is? The Cartels put the fucking mayor in office and as long as he does what they tell him he stays alive.

Do you live in Mexico?
Are you a politician in Mexico?

This is the rules, take the money or else...
Mexico mayor killed less than a day after taking office

Now where do the Cartels get the money and the guns to bribe and intimidate?

Dear God you are fucking dumb!
The drugs come from S.A. and the ME.
The guns are bought from the sale of drugs from central European arms manufacturers who produce cheap knock-offs of US made guns. Ask Glock.

 

[healthmyths]

Mexico 'won't pay single cent for Trump's stupid wall'

Source: CNBC

Mexico 'won't pay single cent for Trump's stupid wall'

Holly Ellyatt | Hadley Gamble
2 Hours Ago

U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump might want to build a wall across the country's southern border to keep Mexican migrants out but don't expect Mexico to pay for it, the former Mexican president told CNBC, calling the billionaire a "not very well-informed man."

The Presidential hopeful shocked viewers in October by insisting that, if elected, he would build a wall the Mexican border and what's more, Mexico would pay for it. But Felipe Calderon, the former president of Mexico between 2006 and 2012, told CNBC on Saturday that there was no way that Mexico would pay for such a device.

"Mexican people, we are not going to pay any single cent for such a stupid wall! And it's going to be completely useless," Calderon said.

"The first loser of such a policy would be the United States," he added. "If this guy pretends that closing the borders to anywhere either for trade (or) for people is going to provide prosperity to the United States, he is completely crazy."

Read more: Mexico 'won't pay a cent for Trump's stupid wall'

It is highly doubtful that Mexico will pay anything.

Let's see... $209 million in aid to Mexico.
So USA takes that $209 million and use it to build the WaLL.
Ten years is $2.09 billion.
The actual cost for the rest of the border wall (roughly 1,300 miles) could be as high as $16 million per mile, with a total price tag of $15 billion to $25 billion. Rosenblum said the $15 billion low-end estimate is "probably an underestimate," because the parts that have yet to be fenced are the most difficult — the most dense and arid. At $16 million per mile and with 1,300 miles to secure, the estimated cost would be $12 billion, and the price of private land acquisitions and maintenance of fencing could push that total cost higher. What Trump's immigration wall could cost the US

 

[dannyboys]

Meh, just withhold all foreign aid to the shit hole. They'll pay one way or another

Damn you're stupid! Mexico gets $51 million per year....the wall will cost $200 billion! Much of our food comes from Mexico. Produce and meat. Cut off Mexico and the rest of central and south America will cut off the U.S.....in a trade war the U.S. loses.


In 2013, the United States gave Mexico $51.5 million in foreign aid. Of that amount, $24.8 million, the largest segment, was designated for democracy, human rights and governance. The next largest amount, $10.9 million, was designated for the environment, and $8.4 million was designated for economic development.
How much foreign aid does the United States give to Mexico?

You are the stupid one!
Forget the peanuts the US sends to Mexico to essentially line the corrupt Mexican government officials. It's all for show.
The REAL money the Mexican officials get is from the kick-backs from the Cartels.
Someone explain to me how a simple city mayor in a dusty shithole town in Mexico who 'on the books' is getting 10K a year can live in a million dollar villa with five servants. Send his kids to the best private schools in Spain, has five cars each costing over 100K, spends four months a year 'on holiday' with his EXTENDED family???????????
There are THOUSANDS of officials that live like the millionaires they are because of the Cartels.
If that isn't corruption what is? The Cartels put the fucking mayor in office and as long as he does what they tell him he stays alive.

Do you live in Mexico?
Are you a politician in Mexico?

This is the rules, take the money or else...
Mexico mayor killed less than a day after taking office

Now where do the Cartels get the money and the guns to bribe and intimidate?

From drug sales? Duh....

And which countries pathetic drugs policy has caused this...

America exports guns and drug money to Mexico and puts it in the hands of criminals and then blames Mexico because their country is corrupt from intimidation and bribery.

How about stop making Mexico a hell hole... If Mexico's economy was better then less people would want o come to America... Mexico has got better and there net return... It is Central America that is now getting the major treatment...

You asshole! The fucking Mexican government has been in bed with the drug cartels for decade.
Put the blame where it belongs. In FACT it's the Cartels which buy the guns from E. Europe and smuggle them into the negro shit holes in the US.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I thought the Minute Men were going to build the wall. lolol.,

 

[dannyboys]

Mexico 'won't pay single cent for Trump's stupid wall'

Source: CNBC

Mexico 'won't pay single cent for Trump's stupid wall'

Holly Ellyatt | Hadley Gamble
2 Hours Ago

U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump might want to build a wall across the country's southern border to keep Mexican migrants out but don't expect Mexico to pay for it, the former Mexican president told CNBC, calling the billionaire a "not very well-informed man."

The Presidential hopeful shocked viewers in October by insisting that, if elected, he would build a wall the Mexican border and what's more, Mexico would pay for it. But Felipe Calderon, the former president of Mexico between 2006 and 2012, told CNBC on Saturday that there was no way that Mexico would pay for such a device.

"Mexican people, we are not going to pay any single cent for such a stupid wall! And it's going to be completely useless," Calderon said.

"The first loser of such a policy would be the United States," he added. "If this guy pretends that closing the borders to anywhere either for trade (or) for people is going to provide prosperity to the United States, he is completely crazy."

Read more: Mexico 'won't pay a cent for Trump's stupid wall'

It is highly doubtful that Mexico will pay anything.

Let's see... $209 million in aid to Mexico.
So USA takes that $209 million and use it to build the WaLL.
Ten years is $2.09 billion.
The actual cost for the rest of the border wall (roughly 1,300 miles) could be as high as $16 million per mile, with a total price tag of $15 billion to $25 billion. Rosenblum said the $15 billion low-end estimate is "probably an underestimate," because the parts that have yet to be fenced are the most difficult — the most dense and arid. At $16 million per mile and with 1,300 miles to secure, the estimated cost would be $12 billion, and the price of private land acquisitions and maintenance of fencing could push that total cost higher. What Trump's immigration wall could cost the US


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[eddiew]

Damn you're stupid! Mexico gets $51 million per year....the wall will cost $200 billion! Much of our food comes from Mexico. Produce and meat. Cut off Mexico and the rest of central and south America will cut off the U.S.....in a trade war the U.S. loses.


In 2013, the United States gave Mexico $51.5 million in foreign aid. Of that amount, $24.8 million, the largest segment, was designated for democracy, human rights and governance. The next largest amount, $10.9 million, was designated for the environment, and $8.4 million was designated for economic development.
How much foreign aid does the United States give to Mexico?

You are the stupid one!
Forget the peanuts the US sends to Mexico to essentially line the corrupt Mexican government officials. It's all for show.
The REAL money the Mexican officials get is from the kick-backs from the Cartels.
Someone explain to me how a simple city mayor in a dusty shithole town in Mexico who 'on the books' is getting 10K a year can live in a million dollar villa with five servants. Send his kids to the best private schools in Spain, has five cars each costing over 100K, spends four months a year 'on holiday' with his EXTENDED family???????????
There are THOUSANDS of officials that live like the millionaires they are because of the Cartels.
If that isn't corruption what is? The Cartels put the fucking mayor in office and as long as he does what they tell him he stays alive.

Do you live in Mexico?
Are you a politician in Mexico?

This is the rules, take the money or else...
Mexico mayor killed less than a day after taking office

Now where do the Cartels get the money and the guns to bribe and intimidate?

From drug sales? Duh....

And which countries pathetic drugs policy has caused this...

America exports guns and drug money to Mexico and puts it in the hands of criminals and then blames Mexico because their country is corrupt from intimidation and bribery.

How about stop making Mexico a hell hole... If Mexico's economy was better then less people would want o come to America... Mexico has got better and there net return... It is Central America that is now getting the major treatment...

I prefer to isolate the third world shithole, they can keep their illegals and their drugs and a fence will go along way in accomplishing that

We build a fence they'll build longer ladders more tunnels.........I say deal with any caught with extreme predjuice that'll slow them down