Mexican Citizen Sentenced To 8 Years In Prison For Voter Fraud In TX - YES, She VOTED

[danielpalos]

dear, you have, nothing but ad hominems. all you have is cognitive dissonance. how, right wing of you.

I believe we should be solving our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution via capitalism, not socialism on a national basis. We should be generating revenue from each and every Person wanting to come to the US.

Why are You cognitively dissonant enough to want to "ditch capitalism" for socialism on a national basis?

An Ad hominem "(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining."?


I have not done that. I have described the foundation of all you positions, thus my comments are directed at your positions, and only touch on you, personally, lightly.


I asked you for an example of a position you hold that puts American interests ahead of Mexican interests. You have not done so.

Only in your right wing imagination. I notice you ignored my solution.

I ignored your lies. YOu have no interests in solving any of "our" problems because you look at the situation with an eye to how to advance Mexican interests, not American's.

I asked you for an example of a position you hold that puts American interests ahead of Mexican interests. You have not done so.

dear, having nothing but fallacy; is simply lying. only the cognitively dissonant, never get it.

I believe we should be solving our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution via capitalism, not socialism on a national basis. We should be generating revenue from each and every Person wanting to come to the US.

You've demonstrated that that is a lie by refusing to consider any of the negative effects of such policies for Americans, including the rape or murder of American citizens.


You do not want to solve "our" problems. You want to solve the problems of the Mexicans who have trouble accessing the wealth that has been created by America and Americans.

You only have a fallacy of false Cause, dear.

 

[danielpalos]

That's because there is no clear answer on the news for him to repeat...the media can make bogus claims and then just walk away because there is no rebuttal, but then the parrots try to repeat it elsewhere and they think the obvious answer cannot possibly exist because it would have been on the news.

Mmm, maybe.

BUT, imo, Danial is a loyal Mexican, despite what his papers say and any oaths he might have taken.

To, him it's not what the media tells him, but that his heart is with Mexico and Mexicans. He wants the illegals to be allowed to stay and vote because that would be good for them, and Mexico and Mexicans.

nothing but propaganda and rhetoric instead of valid arguments?

nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics or the law.

There is no propaganda or rhetoric. I am just speaking the truth about you.

YOu are loyal to your ethnic homeland and your ethnic brothers, not to America. You have demonstrated this repeatedly with your complete dismissal of even the lives of American children, as a matter of concern.

You have no truth; Only fallacy.

LOL! For you to accuse anyone of using fallacy. LOL!!!

Yes, I resort to them the least, as a form of intellectual capital, competition; unlike the national socialist, right wing.

 

[Correll]

An Ad hominem "(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining."?


I have not done that. I have described the foundation of all you positions, thus my comments are directed at your positions, and only touch on you, personally, lightly.


I asked you for an example of a position you hold that puts American interests ahead of Mexican interests. You have not done so.

Only in your right wing imagination. I notice you ignored my solution.

I ignored your lies. YOu have no interests in solving any of "our" problems because you look at the situation with an eye to how to advance Mexican interests, not American's.

I asked you for an example of a position you hold that puts American interests ahead of Mexican interests. You have not done so.

dear, having nothing but fallacy; is simply lying. only the cognitively dissonant, never get it.

I believe we should be solving our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution via capitalism, not socialism on a national basis. We should be generating revenue from each and every Person wanting to come to the US.

Was it you that proposed "a monetary visa"?

you don't believe in capitalism?

Couldn't give a clear answer, could ya?

That might make it too easy to piece together your overall theme, which is as I said, Complete loyalty to the Motherland, Ie Mexico.

 

[Correll]

An Ad hominem "(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining."?


I have not done that. I have described the foundation of all you positions, thus my comments are directed at your positions, and only touch on you, personally, lightly.


I asked you for an example of a position you hold that puts American interests ahead of Mexican interests. You have not done so.

Only in your right wing imagination. I notice you ignored my solution.

I ignored your lies. YOu have no interests in solving any of "our" problems because you look at the situation with an eye to how to advance Mexican interests, not American's.

I asked you for an example of a position you hold that puts American interests ahead of Mexican interests. You have not done so.

dear, having nothing but fallacy; is simply lying. only the cognitively dissonant, never get it.

I believe we should be solving our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution via capitalism, not socialism on a national basis. We should be generating revenue from each and every Person wanting to come to the US.

You've demonstrated that that is a lie by refusing to consider any of the negative effects of such policies for Americans, including the rape or murder of American citizens.


You do not want to solve "our" problems. You want to solve the problems of the Mexicans who have trouble accessing the wealth that has been created by America and Americans.

You only have a fallacy of false Cause, dear.

I have the Truth.

You have obfuscation, and lies.


Why are you afraid of the Truth?

 

[Correll]

Mmm, maybe.

BUT, imo, Danial is a loyal Mexican, despite what his papers say and any oaths he might have taken.

To, him it's not what the media tells him, but that his heart is with Mexico and Mexicans. He wants the illegals to be allowed to stay and vote because that would be good for them, and Mexico and Mexicans.

nothing but propaganda and rhetoric instead of valid arguments?

nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics or the law.

There is no propaganda or rhetoric. I am just speaking the truth about you.

YOu are loyal to your ethnic homeland and your ethnic brothers, not to America. You have demonstrated this repeatedly with your complete dismissal of even the lives of American children, as a matter of concern.

You have no truth; Only fallacy.

LOL! For you to accuse anyone of using fallacy. LOL!!!

Yes, I resort to them the least, as a form of intellectual capital, competition; unlike the national socialist, right wing.

You "resort" to them the MOST.

And you know it.

Why do you lie?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

An Ad hominem "(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining."?


I have not done that. I have described the foundation of all you positions, thus my comments are directed at your positions, and only touch on you, personally, lightly.


I asked you for an example of a position you hold that puts American interests ahead of Mexican interests. You have not done so.

Only in your right wing imagination. I notice you ignored my solution.

I ignored your lies. YOu have no interests in solving any of "our" problems because you look at the situation with an eye to how to advance Mexican interests, not American's.

I asked you for an example of a position you hold that puts American interests ahead of Mexican interests. You have not done so.

dear, having nothing but fallacy; is simply lying. only the cognitively dissonant, never get it.

I believe we should be solving our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution via capitalism, not socialism on a national basis. We should be generating revenue from each and every Person wanting to come to the US.

Was it you that proposed "a monetary visa"?

you don't believe in capitalism?

You didn't answer the question. I do believe in capitalism, that is why I asked you that question, the idea proposed is very intriguing, contains lots of "pro's", ways to add incentive for staying and incentive to leave when time is up.

 

[danielpalos]

Only in your right wing imagination. I notice you ignored my solution.

I ignored your lies. YOu have no interests in solving any of "our" problems because you look at the situation with an eye to how to advance Mexican interests, not American's.

I asked you for an example of a position you hold that puts American interests ahead of Mexican interests. You have not done so.

dear, having nothing but fallacy; is simply lying. only the cognitively dissonant, never get it.

I believe we should be solving our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution via capitalism, not socialism on a national basis. We should be generating revenue from each and every Person wanting to come to the US.

Was it you that proposed "a monetary visa"?

you don't believe in capitalism?

Couldn't give a clear answer, could ya?

That might make it too easy to piece together your overall theme, which is as I said, Complete loyalty to the Motherland, Ie Mexico.

Do you believe in Capitalism or socialism on a national basis, or not?

 

[danielpalos]

Only in your right wing imagination. I notice you ignored my solution.

I ignored your lies. YOu have no interests in solving any of "our" problems because you look at the situation with an eye to how to advance Mexican interests, not American's.

I asked you for an example of a position you hold that puts American interests ahead of Mexican interests. You have not done so.

dear, having nothing but fallacy; is simply lying. only the cognitively dissonant, never get it.

I believe we should be solving our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution via capitalism, not socialism on a national basis. We should be generating revenue from each and every Person wanting to come to the US.

You've demonstrated that that is a lie by refusing to consider any of the negative effects of such policies for Americans, including the rape or murder of American citizens.


You do not want to solve "our" problems. You want to solve the problems of the Mexicans who have trouble accessing the wealth that has been created by America and Americans.

You only have a fallacy of false Cause, dear.

I have the Truth.

You have obfuscation, and lies.


Why are you afraid of the Truth?

Only crony capitalists have nothing but fiat arguments.

 

[danielpalos]

nothing but propaganda and rhetoric instead of valid arguments?

nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics or the law.

There is no propaganda or rhetoric. I am just speaking the truth about you.

YOu are loyal to your ethnic homeland and your ethnic brothers, not to America. You have demonstrated this repeatedly with your complete dismissal of even the lives of American children, as a matter of concern.

You have no truth; Only fallacy.

LOL! For you to accuse anyone of using fallacy. LOL!!!

Yes, I resort to them the least, as a form of intellectual capital, competition; unlike the national socialist, right wing.

You "resort" to them the MOST.

And you know it.

Why do you lie?

I may be wrong, but i don't resort to fallacy for false Causes i cannot support.

 

[danielpalos]

Only in your right wing imagination. I notice you ignored my solution.

I ignored your lies. YOu have no interests in solving any of "our" problems because you look at the situation with an eye to how to advance Mexican interests, not American's.

I asked you for an example of a position you hold that puts American interests ahead of Mexican interests. You have not done so.

dear, having nothing but fallacy; is simply lying. only the cognitively dissonant, never get it.

I believe we should be solving our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution via capitalism, not socialism on a national basis. We should be generating revenue from each and every Person wanting to come to the US.

Was it you that proposed "a monetary visa"?

you don't believe in capitalism?

You didn't answer the question. I do believe in capitalism, that is why I asked you that question, the idea proposed is very intriguing, contains lots of "pro's", ways to add incentive for staying and incentive to leave when time is up.

thanks. i should practice running more attention surpluses to the actual strings of words.

We could be lowering the cost of Government via Capitalism and not socialism on a national basis. It has to do with our Commerce Clause.

 

[12icer]

BZZZZZ wrong. Voter fraud is a proven fact, and it will be stopped one way or the other.

 

[danielpalos]

BZZZZZ wrong. Voter fraud is a proven fact, and it will be stopped one way or the other.

Free ID to vote.

When is the right wing going to, "get serious".

 

[Frankeneinstein]

I ignored your lies. YOu have no interests in solving any of "our" problems because you look at the situation with an eye to how to advance Mexican interests, not American's.

I asked you for an example of a position you hold that puts American interests ahead of Mexican interests. You have not done so.

dear, having nothing but fallacy; is simply lying. only the cognitively dissonant, never get it.

I believe we should be solving our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution via capitalism, not socialism on a national basis. We should be generating revenue from each and every Person wanting to come to the US.

Was it you that proposed "a monetary visa"?

you don't believe in capitalism?

Couldn't give a clear answer, could ya?

That might make it too easy to piece together your overall theme, which is as I said, Complete loyalty to the Motherland, Ie Mexico.

Do you believe in Capitalism or socialism on a national basis, or not?

Not taking a shot at ya, but you word some of these posts rather oddly...I'm a capitalist, but somethings like education and healthcare need to be federally funded

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Eight years in prison?

I can see why so few illegals vote

How tightly do you have to close your eyes to see that?

 

[danielpalos]

dear, having nothing but fallacy; is simply lying. only the cognitively dissonant, never get it.

I believe we should be solving our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution via capitalism, not socialism on a national basis. We should be generating revenue from each and every Person wanting to come to the US.

Was it you that proposed "a monetary visa"?

you don't believe in capitalism?

Couldn't give a clear answer, could ya?

That might make it too easy to piece together your overall theme, which is as I said, Complete loyalty to the Motherland, Ie Mexico.

Do you believe in Capitalism or socialism on a national basis, or not?

Not taking a shot at ya, but you word some of these posts rather oddly...I'm a capitalist, but somethings like education and healthcare need to be federally funded

that is the whole and entire point.

the left is learning to merely and simple, use Capitalism, for all of its capital worth.

thus, liberal socialism is more, market friendly than, socialism on a more national basis, via command economics.

 

[danielpalos]

Eight years in prison?

I can see why so few illegals vote

How tightly do you have to close your eyes to see that?

low population, welfare queen red States, are more "gullible" with fewer "participants".

 

[Correll]

I ignored your lies. YOu have no interests in solving any of "our" problems because you look at the situation with an eye to how to advance Mexican interests, not American's.

I asked you for an example of a position you hold that puts American interests ahead of Mexican interests. You have not done so.

dear, having nothing but fallacy; is simply lying. only the cognitively dissonant, never get it.

I believe we should be solving our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution via capitalism, not socialism on a national basis. We should be generating revenue from each and every Person wanting to come to the US.

Was it you that proposed "a monetary visa"?

you don't believe in capitalism?

Couldn't give a clear answer, could ya?

That might make it too easy to piece together your overall theme, which is as I said, Complete loyalty to the Motherland, Ie Mexico.

Do you believe in Capitalism or socialism on a national basis, or not?

Sorry, I don't know what meanings you have assigned to those words. YOu are certainly not using them their normal fashion.


YOu have already demonstrated that you use "socialism" sometimes as a term for "governmental".


SO, I can answer your question because I don't know what you are really asking.


I do note that you have NOT denied being loyal to Mexico.

 

[Correll]

I ignored your lies. YOu have no interests in solving any of "our" problems because you look at the situation with an eye to how to advance Mexican interests, not American's.

I asked you for an example of a position you hold that puts American interests ahead of Mexican interests. You have not done so.

dear, having nothing but fallacy; is simply lying. only the cognitively dissonant, never get it.

I believe we should be solving our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution via capitalism, not socialism on a national basis. We should be generating revenue from each and every Person wanting to come to the US.

Was it you that proposed "a monetary visa"?

you don't believe in capitalism?

You didn't answer the question. I do believe in capitalism, that is why I asked you that question, the idea proposed is very intriguing, contains lots of "pro's", ways to add incentive for staying and incentive to leave when time is up.

thanks. i should practice running more attention surpluses to the actual strings of words.

We could be lowering the cost of Government via Capitalism and not socialism on a national basis. It has to do with our Commerce Clause.

Meaningless gibberish.

 

[Correll]

BZZZZZ wrong. Voter fraud is a proven fact, and it will be stopped one way or the other.

Free ID to vote.

When is the right wing going to, "get serious".

In the context of this conversation, a reasonable person would read the above as you propose to make it free for Americans to get ID, so that the ID process does NOT hamper anyone's right to vote AND illegal voting can be stopped.

BUT, what you really mean, and are trying to get people to agree to dishonestly, is that you want the government to give free ids to everyone INCLUDING illegals, and then to let everyone vote, including the Mexican Citizens who are here illegally.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

A new report on voter fraud from the Brennan Center confirms that multiple nationwide studies have uncovered only a handful of incidents of non-citizens voting.

Based on state prosecution records, votes by non-citizens account for between 0.0003 percent and 0.001 percent of all votes cast.

Election officials agree that non-citizen voting in our elections is not a problem. The National Association of Secretaries of State, whose Republican-majority membership includes the chief elections officers of 40 states, said they “are not aware of any evidence that supports the voter fraud claims made by President Trump.”

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