Mexican Citizen Sentenced To 8 Years In Prison For Voter Fraud In TX - YES, She VOTED

[danielpalos]

dear, having nothing but fallacy; is simply lying. only the cognitively dissonant, never get it.

I believe we should be solving our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution via capitalism, not socialism on a national basis. We should be generating revenue from each and every Person wanting to come to the US.

Was it you that proposed "a monetary visa"?

you don't believe in capitalism?

Couldn't give a clear answer, could ya?

That might make it too easy to piece together your overall theme, which is as I said, Complete loyalty to the Motherland, Ie Mexico.

Do you believe in Capitalism or socialism on a national basis, or not?

Sorry, I don't know what meanings you have assigned to those words. YOu are certainly not using them their normal fashion.


YOu have already demonstrated that you use "socialism" sometimes as a term for "governmental".


SO, I can answer your question because I don't know what you are really asking.


I do note that you have NOT denied being loyal to Mexico.

Only national socialists ask such silly questions, instead of competing with better solutions at lower cost.

Ask Ding.

 

[danielpalos]

dear, having nothing but fallacy; is simply lying. only the cognitively dissonant, never get it.

I believe we should be solving our illegal problem at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution via capitalism, not socialism on a national basis. We should be generating revenue from each and every Person wanting to come to the US.

Was it you that proposed "a monetary visa"?

you don't believe in capitalism?

You didn't answer the question. I do believe in capitalism, that is why I asked you that question, the idea proposed is very intriguing, contains lots of "pro's", ways to add incentive for staying and incentive to leave when time is up.

thanks. i should practice running more attention surpluses to the actual strings of words.

We could be lowering the cost of Government via Capitalism and not socialism on a national basis. It has to do with our Commerce Clause.

Meaningless gibberish.

Nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics, (or the law).

 

[danielpalos]

BZZZZZ wrong. Voter fraud is a proven fact, and it will be stopped one way or the other.

Free ID to vote.

When is the right wing going to, "get serious".

In the context of this conversation, a reasonable person would read the above as you propose to make it free for Americans to get ID, so that the ID process does NOT hamper anyone's right to vote AND illegal voting can be stopped.

BUT, what you really mean, and are trying to get people to agree to dishonestly, is that you want the government to give free ids to everyone INCLUDING illegals, and then to let everyone vote, including the Mexican Citizens who are here illegally.

How would your hearsay and soothsay happen, with market friendly ID?

 

[danielpalos]

A new report on voter fraud from the Brennan Center confirms that multiple nationwide studies have uncovered only a handful of incidents of non-citizens voting.

Based on state prosecution records, votes by non-citizens account for between 0.0003 percent and 0.001 percent of all votes cast.

Election officials agree that non-citizen voting in our elections is not a problem. The National Association of Secretaries of State, whose Republican-majority membership includes the chief elections officers of 40 states, said they “are not aware of any evidence that supports the voter fraud claims made by President Trump.”

Robert Reich: Trump's Most Shameful Act So Far

The federal government should solve this federal problem at the federal borders, with a market friendly federal visa.

 

[Correll]

Was it you that proposed "a monetary visa"?

you don't believe in capitalism?

Couldn't give a clear answer, could ya?

That might make it too easy to piece together your overall theme, which is as I said, Complete loyalty to the Motherland, Ie Mexico.

Do you believe in Capitalism or socialism on a national basis, or not?

Sorry, I don't know what meanings you have assigned to those words. YOu are certainly not using them their normal fashion.


YOu have already demonstrated that you use "socialism" sometimes as a term for "governmental".


SO, I can answer your question because I don't know what you are really asking.


I do note that you have NOT denied being loyal to Mexico.

Only national socialists ask such silly questions, instead of competing with better solutions at lower cost.

Ask Ding.

It is not true that only one type of person asks that type of question. In regards to YOU, it is THE question, because it is the Truth that you are trying to hide that defines so much of what you do and say here.

I have tried to compare solutions with you, but you refuse to discuss the costs or negatives of your proposed solutions.


Because you don't CARE about any costs or negatives to American citizens because your loyalty is to Mexico and Mexicans.

 

[Correll]

Was it you that proposed "a monetary visa"?

you don't believe in capitalism?

You didn't answer the question. I do believe in capitalism, that is why I asked you that question, the idea proposed is very intriguing, contains lots of "pro's", ways to add incentive for staying and incentive to leave when time is up.

thanks. i should practice running more attention surpluses to the actual strings of words.

We could be lowering the cost of Government via Capitalism and not socialism on a national basis. It has to do with our Commerce Clause.

Meaningless gibberish.

Nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics, (or the law).

I guess you missed when the RIghtwing just won the Presidency, the Senate, the House, and the majority of state governments.

You words are chaff, designed to hide the Truth, which is that your positions are designed to serve MEXICAN interests.

 

[Correll]

BZZZZZ wrong. Voter fraud is a proven fact, and it will be stopped one way or the other.

Free ID to vote.

When is the right wing going to, "get serious".

In the context of this conversation, a reasonable person would read the above as you propose to make it free for Americans to get ID, so that the ID process does NOT hamper anyone's right to vote AND illegal voting can be stopped.

BUT, what you really mean, and are trying to get people to agree to dishonestly, is that you want the government to give free ids to everyone INCLUDING illegals, and then to let everyone vote, including the Mexican Citizens who are here illegally.

How would your hearsay and soothsay happen, with market friendly ID?

LOL!! You hoping that no one noticed that you didn't disagree with my translation?

"My" policy? Happens with enforcing the law and deporting the illegals back to their homes.

 

[danielpalos]

you don't believe in capitalism?

Couldn't give a clear answer, could ya?

That might make it too easy to piece together your overall theme, which is as I said, Complete loyalty to the Motherland, Ie Mexico.

Do you believe in Capitalism or socialism on a national basis, or not?

Sorry, I don't know what meanings you have assigned to those words. YOu are certainly not using them their normal fashion.


YOu have already demonstrated that you use "socialism" sometimes as a term for "governmental".


SO, I can answer your question because I don't know what you are really asking.


I do note that you have NOT denied being loyal to Mexico.

Only national socialists ask such silly questions, instead of competing with better solutions at lower cost.

Ask Ding.

It is not true that only one type of person asks that type of question. In regards to YOU, it is THE question, because it is the Truth that you are trying to hide that defines so much of what you do and say here.

I have tried to compare solutions with you, but you refuse to discuss the costs or negatives of your proposed solutions.


Because you don't CARE about any costs or negatives to American citizens because your loyalty is to Mexico and Mexicans.

A market friendly visa solves our illegal problem via Capitalism not Socialism.

It really is that simple.

 

[danielpalos]

you don't believe in capitalism?

You didn't answer the question. I do believe in capitalism, that is why I asked you that question, the idea proposed is very intriguing, contains lots of "pro's", ways to add incentive for staying and incentive to leave when time is up.

thanks. i should practice running more attention surpluses to the actual strings of words.

We could be lowering the cost of Government via Capitalism and not socialism on a national basis. It has to do with our Commerce Clause.

Meaningless gibberish.

Nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics, (or the law).

I guess you missed when the RIghtwing just won the Presidency, the Senate, the House, and the majority of state governments.

You words are chaff, designed to hide the Truth, which is that your positions are designed to serve MEXICAN interests.

crony capitalists, to the rescue?

 

[danielpalos]

BZZZZZ wrong. Voter fraud is a proven fact, and it will be stopped one way or the other.

Free ID to vote.

When is the right wing going to, "get serious".

In the context of this conversation, a reasonable person would read the above as you propose to make it free for Americans to get ID, so that the ID process does NOT hamper anyone's right to vote AND illegal voting can be stopped.

BUT, what you really mean, and are trying to get people to agree to dishonestly, is that you want the government to give free ids to everyone INCLUDING illegals, and then to let everyone vote, including the Mexican Citizens who are here illegally.

How would your hearsay and soothsay happen, with market friendly ID?

LOL!! You hoping that no one noticed that you didn't disagree with my translation?

"My" policy? Happens with enforcing the law and deporting the illegals back to their homes.

In other words, (throw capitalism under the bus when you can) resort to socialism on a national basis. I got it.

 

[Correll]

Couldn't give a clear answer, could ya?

That might make it too easy to piece together your overall theme, which is as I said, Complete loyalty to the Motherland, Ie Mexico.

Do you believe in Capitalism or socialism on a national basis, or not?

Sorry, I don't know what meanings you have assigned to those words. YOu are certainly not using them their normal fashion.


YOu have already demonstrated that you use "socialism" sometimes as a term for "governmental".


SO, I can answer your question because I don't know what you are really asking.


I do note that you have NOT denied being loyal to Mexico.

Only national socialists ask such silly questions, instead of competing with better solutions at lower cost.

Ask Ding.

It is not true that only one type of person asks that type of question. In regards to YOU, it is THE question, because it is the Truth that you are trying to hide that defines so much of what you do and say here.

I have tried to compare solutions with you, but you refuse to discuss the costs or negatives of your proposed solutions.


Because you don't CARE about any costs or negatives to American citizens because your loyalty is to Mexico and Mexicans.

A market friendly visa solves our illegal problem via Capitalism not Socialism.

It really is that simple.

"Solves" is the question, that you refuse to address by refusing to seriously discuss the results of your proposals.

You dance and jive, to distract from the fact that you refuse to discuss likely results.

 

[Correll]

You didn't answer the question. I do believe in capitalism, that is why I asked you that question, the idea proposed is very intriguing, contains lots of "pro's", ways to add incentive for staying and incentive to leave when time is up.

thanks. i should practice running more attention surpluses to the actual strings of words.

We could be lowering the cost of Government via Capitalism and not socialism on a national basis. It has to do with our Commerce Clause.

Meaningless gibberish.

Nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics, (or the law).

I guess you missed when the RIghtwing just won the Presidency, the Senate, the House, and the majority of state governments.

You words are chaff, designed to hide the Truth, which is that your positions are designed to serve MEXICAN interests.

crony capitalists, to the rescue?

I just demonstrated with a reference to current events that your claim in the last post was moronic.


Nothing in your reply challenged that in any coherent fashion.


THe NATION takes the Right Wing seriously about economics AND the law.

Your attempt at dismissal is delusional.

 

[Correll]

BZZZZZ wrong. Voter fraud is a proven fact, and it will be stopped one way or the other.

Free ID to vote.

When is the right wing going to, "get serious".

In the context of this conversation, a reasonable person would read the above as you propose to make it free for Americans to get ID, so that the ID process does NOT hamper anyone's right to vote AND illegal voting can be stopped.

BUT, what you really mean, and are trying to get people to agree to dishonestly, is that you want the government to give free ids to everyone INCLUDING illegals, and then to let everyone vote, including the Mexican Citizens who are here illegally.

How would your hearsay and soothsay happen, with market friendly ID?

LOL!! You hoping that no one noticed that you didn't disagree with my translation?

"My" policy? Happens with enforcing the law and deporting the illegals back to their homes.

In other words, (throw capitalism under the bus when you can) resort to socialism on a national basis. I got it.

No, "in other words".

I said what I said. I meant what I said. You don't need to restate it to address it.


Your opinion of what school of though it falls under is unimportant.


My answer stands. Enforce the law. Deport the criminal aliens.

 

[danielpalos]

Do you believe in Capitalism or socialism on a national basis, or not?

Sorry, I don't know what meanings you have assigned to those words. YOu are certainly not using them their normal fashion.


YOu have already demonstrated that you use "socialism" sometimes as a term for "governmental".


SO, I can answer your question because I don't know what you are really asking.


I do note that you have NOT denied being loyal to Mexico.

Only national socialists ask such silly questions, instead of competing with better solutions at lower cost.

Ask Ding.

It is not true that only one type of person asks that type of question. In regards to YOU, it is THE question, because it is the Truth that you are trying to hide that defines so much of what you do and say here.

I have tried to compare solutions with you, but you refuse to discuss the costs or negatives of your proposed solutions.


Because you don't CARE about any costs or negatives to American citizens because your loyalty is to Mexico and Mexicans.

A market friendly visa solves our illegal problem via Capitalism not Socialism.

It really is that simple.

"Solves" is the question, that you refuse to address by refusing to seriously discuss the results of your proposals.

You dance and jive, to distract from the fact that you refuse to discuss likely results.

Nobody takes the right seriously about economics.

There will be no illegals, with a market friendly visa; they will all be legal.

 

[danielpalos]

thanks. i should practice running more attention surpluses to the actual strings of words.

We could be lowering the cost of Government via Capitalism and not socialism on a national basis. It has to do with our Commerce Clause.

Meaningless gibberish.

Nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics, (or the law).

I guess you missed when the RIghtwing just won the Presidency, the Senate, the House, and the majority of state governments.

You words are chaff, designed to hide the Truth, which is that your positions are designed to serve MEXICAN interests.

crony capitalists, to the rescue?

I just demonstrated with a reference to current events that your claim in the last post was moronic.


Nothing in your reply challenged that in any coherent fashion.


THe NATION takes the Right Wing seriously about economics AND the law.

Your attempt at dismissal is delusional.

right wing propaganda and rhetoric, is not a valid argument.

 

[danielpalos]

Free ID to vote.

When is the right wing going to, "get serious".

In the context of this conversation, a reasonable person would read the above as you propose to make it free for Americans to get ID, so that the ID process does NOT hamper anyone's right to vote AND illegal voting can be stopped.

BUT, what you really mean, and are trying to get people to agree to dishonestly, is that you want the government to give free ids to everyone INCLUDING illegals, and then to let everyone vote, including the Mexican Citizens who are here illegally.

How would your hearsay and soothsay happen, with market friendly ID?

LOL!! You hoping that no one noticed that you didn't disagree with my translation?

"My" policy? Happens with enforcing the law and deporting the illegals back to their homes.

In other words, (throw capitalism under the bus when you can) resort to socialism on a national basis. I got it.

No, "in other words".

I said what I said. I meant what I said. You don't need to restate it to address it.


Your opinion of what school of though it falls under is unimportant.


My answer stands. Enforce the law. Deport the criminal aliens.

In other words, (throw capitalism under the bus when you can) resort to socialism on a national basis. I got it.

 

[hunarcy]

"red illegals"? New medications?

only in right wing fantasy, do all illegals vote blue. just medication?

I admit I haven't read these threads often, but are you sure the claim is that ALL illegals vote blue?

No right wingers admit that Mr. Trump got elected by red illegals voting red, in low population red States.

I still don't understand the term "red illegals" nor do you provide any proof that the claim IS that ALL illegals vote blue.

why do you even care?

Because if you have a valid point, I want to understand it. And, if you don't, I want to know to ignore your posts in the future.

 

[Dragonlady]

Speaking of illegals and fraud, congress is again going after the scams and frauds illegals are using to bilk US tax payers out of over $7 billion dollars a year, yes $7 billion.

Over 1/3 of all illegals are participating in these scams. Over 24,000 refunds...were mailed to a single address.

Link? And not Breitbart or InfoWars. A genuine news source, not some alt-right fake news site.


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[BluesLegend]

Speaking of illegals and fraud, congress is again going after the scams and frauds illegals are using to bilk US tax payers out of over $7 billion dollars a year, yes $7 billion.

Over 1/3 of all illegals are participating in these scams. Over 24,000 refunds...were mailed to a single address.

Link? And not Breitbart or InfoWars. A genuine news source, not some alt-right fake news site.


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Goddamn how many times do I have to post this link? You libs try to become informed on what's going on in our country. Illegals have been running this scam for years, its been reported on multiple times, debated in congress, bills passed in the House.

From the Treasury Inspector General, try to refute it you can't.

Groups want Trump to close loophole allowing illegal immigrants to abuse tax credits

 

[hunarcy]

Speaking of illegals and fraud, congress is again going after the scams and frauds illegals are using to bilk US tax payers out of over $7 billion dollars a year, yes $7 billion.

Over 1/3 of all illegals are participating in these scams. Over 24,000 refunds...were mailed to a single address.

Link? And not Breitbart or InfoWars. A genuine news source, not some alt-right fake news site.


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Perhaps you should have googled "24000 returns sent to single address". I did and found a story from CBS46 (Atlanta's CBS afffliate about it...as well as a link to treasury.com's report Referenc 2012-42-081 verifying his claim.