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What the heck is up with all the Merry Christmasphobia? Especially within our Public School system where during this season they outlaw certain flowers, ban particular colors, prohibit the display of Santas image, bar Christmas trees and tie their tongues in knots trying to rename Christmas?
Isnt it odd that the Public School Admin wizards get their support hose wedgied regarding Christmas, all the while they seem to be extremely zealous about teaching our 1st -12th graders everything and more than what they need to know about sex?
Yeah, theyre cool with adding a fourth R, namely raunch, to the three basic Rs of education. It appears to be no problemo to teach our younguns how to masturbate, and school officials seem to be pretty breezy about hosting gay and lesbian clubs; but darn iit, youd better not wear red and green, bring a poinsettia to your teacher, have a baby Jesus lying in a manger, whistle Silent Night or have a Santa Claus sticker on your notebook because that . . . that . . . is beyond the pale. At least it is ever since the ACLU began contorting the Constitution like a mad Mike Tyson twisting his Gumby doll.
The Christmasphobia seems to have seeped outside of the Pubic Fool System and has also hit the streets. Its gotten to the point where Ive got to think for 30 to 40 seconds about how I am to wish one well during the Christmas season for fear that the ACLU will send some soulless lawyer to my house to sue me because of an insensitive greeting.
Before, I just used to say, Merry Christmas. Now, I have to do CIA-like profiling trying to figure out what religion said person is before I launch a holiday howdy. Are they Christian? Muslim? Satanist? Atheist? Do they look like they have enough money to take legal action against me if I get the greeting wrong and they become deeply wounded by my well wish? Its madness. To remedy the situation, now I just blow off saying anything aside from, Wassup?
Not only has this new found phobia regarding the Yuletide infected our dysfunctional schools and hamstrung our greetings in the streets, its also crept into retail where stores like Target put a moratorium on everything to do with Christmas, including giving the Salvation Army the boot. Hey, Grinch-like Targetmeisters, the multiple millions of us here in Hooville are going to be buying our cheap stuff somewhere else this Christmas season. So, Happy Festivus, Target, and I hope your profits and stock dont tumble too dramatically as we take our business elsewhere.
I wonder how long its going to be before the anti-war morons move to prohibit Veterans Day and Memorial Day because they are offended at the thought of honoring those who fought for and those who died for our country.
With all the PC stuff swirling around in the secular toilet bowl of our school systems, one can be paralyzed as to what he can and cant do, what he can and cant say. Herewith, my brethren, is a simple guide regarding what youre allowed to say and do without going to jail, or being fined millions of dollars, or getting expelled or fired, or being executed in the public square. The following bullet points were ripped out of Alan Sears and Craig Ostens book, The ACLU vs. America, with some obvious ad lib from me.
1 It is still okay to sing Christmas carols in public schools by individuals or groups. So queue up a few of them for your holiday extravaganza, because this doesnt violate the Constitution. [Someone help me here: When did the Constitution become so fragile and so easily offended? When did it go from being a rough and tumble framing document to being a delicate thesis written on single ply?] Hey Christmas lover, dont worry if Mr., Mrs. or Ms. Stupid says theyre going to sue if you dont cease and desist from singing Hark, the Herald Angles Sing, as public schools have been very successful at keeping the ACLU at bay when they seek to silence the Christmas songs in the school system.
2 Its okay for schools to call Christmas Christmas. You can actually call the break during December the Christmas Holiday. You dont have to call it Sparkle Day, Solstice Holidays, or Reindeer Weekend. Calling Christmas Christmas doesnt offend the newly tenderized Constitution. The Supreme Court has acknowledged that the government has long recognized holidays with religious significance such as Christmas.
3 School districts cant ban individuals or teachers from saying Merry Christmas. The Supreme Court has stated that students and teachers do not have to shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate. In order to flout the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, teachers would have to use their authority to promote religion to their students.
4 Schools can teach about the religious origins of Christmas. The religious and cultural origins and history of Christmas can be studied without wounding the Constitution. Even when limiting public Christmas displays, the Supreme Court has said that the Bible may constitutionally be used in an appropriate study of history, civilization, ethics, comparative religion and the like.
5 Schools may display religious symbols, such as Nativity scenes. The Supreme Court has held that a nativity scene is constitutional if it is displayed for legitimate secular purposes, such as to celebrate a holiday or depict the origins of a holiday, such as Christmas.
Yknow, theres probably just a very few people who are popping a blood vein in their foreheads and spouting this anti-Christmas rhetoric. More than likely they arent the constitutionalists theyve propped themselves up to be, but rather, failed actors who couldnt get extra work on B-flicks who have found a way to get in front of a TV camera by being a jerk. Whats the matter? Did mommy not pay enough attention to you when you were little? Did she miss your 3rd grade Christmas play when you starred as Blitzen, and so now you hate Christmas and you want to get her back while making us all pay in the process?
Furthermore, if some citizens want to Ichabod Crane themselves away from our holiday cheer, I say let em. Yes, we could even create a city for them where they can go and live their secularized dream life, perhaps somewhere in the San Francisco Bay area or somewhere around Boston. We could call this religiously-scrubbed, Lysol-disinfected place, Imapaininthebuttville, and there they could have their sterile, religion-free environment and celebrate . . . nothing.
And lastly, secularists, please . . . dont flatter yourselves by thinking that our celebrating Christs birthday is an effort to convert you. Relax. Were not trying to evangelize anyone. This, like so many other things, is not about you. We simply want to pause and recognize the birth of the most powerful figure in our worlds history, namely, Jesus Christ. Its all about Him.
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The ClayTaurus said:I agree with most of what you're saying. I get a little sick of always hearing about how Christianity is under attack, but you all are welcome to voice your disgust at things which you perceive as placing Christianity in this country on the brink of destruction. In all honesty, I'm tired of hearing both sides bitch, it's the same 3 or 4 arguments over and over and over and over again, and each re-hash everyone thinks they've got better and better proof against the other, when in reality you'll never convince the other side of anything. All that you're doing is making us in the majority care even less. I don't care if God is or is not in the pledge of allegiance. If it was up to me, it would stay there not because I thought it was or wasn't right, but because it was there to begin with and there are too many wrongs in the world that trump such a silly thing. I can see this issue from both sides, and I wish people from both sides would just go back to their respective corners and devote their time to something worth the effort.
Mr. P said:I couldn't agree more!
ScreamingEagle said:So you guys think fighting to prevent our Christmas and other forms of religious expression to be taken away from us is NOT WORTH THE EFFORT?
You people in the "middle" (or wherever) who are wishy-washy and have "couldn't care less" attitudes are a good part of the reason why our country is in decline. I believe most of you do not truly understand what is at stake in this seemingly "silly" argument as you call it.
Christian Americans did not start this argument. We have been going along very happily for centuries celebrating Christmas, saying prayers in public, placing crosses over our fallen, etc. without any hassle.
It is the UnAmerican Left Wing which is causing this big argument that you want no part of. Blame them for the ruckus. Ask them why they are so persistent in wanting to remove God from our society at every turn. If you ever got an honest answer from them (which you won't) I think you would then become VERY concerned - that is, if you value your freedoms.
MissileMan said:How does a store saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" infringe on your ability to celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday or prevent you from saying "Merry Christmas"? Is December 25th not Christmas unless Walmart acknowledges it is? Get over it already!
GotZoom said:Umm...Hello?!?
Earth to MissleMan..
It's the principle.
MissileMan said:In other words, it doesn't and it is, but you feel justified in whining nonetheless.
GotZoom said:That was my first post in this thread and your reply was your seventh.
Seems to me that I'm not the one whining.
MissileMan said:How does a store saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" infringe on your ability to celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday or prevent you from saying "Merry Christmas"? Is December 25th not Christmas unless Walmart acknowledges it is? Get over it already!
MissileMan said:How does a store saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" infringe on your ability to celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday or prevent you from saying "Merry Christmas"? Is December 25th not Christmas unless Walmart acknowledges it is? Get over it already!
Hobbit said:Christmas is a national holiday. It's the reason 85% of Americans, Christian or otherwise, are so jolly. Sure, there are 15% who don't celebrate, but it's still a national holiday, period. When it's Veterans' Day, do people say "Happy Monday" because some people don't respect veterans? When it's Independance Day, do people say "Happy Summer" because some people think America is bad? Is Halloween "Happy October" because more than a sad 15% think it's an evil, pagan day? No. Christmas is the only holiday that is being completely erased from public language. It may be the winter solstice, Ramadan, Kwanzaa, and Hannukah, but none of those are national holidays, officially sanctioned by congress, and all four of those make up a mere 15% of the population at best, and that's if you pretend there's nobody who just does nothing in December except enjoy a day off. It's Christmas, period. Pretending that Christmas doesn't exist is an insult to the, once again, 85% of the population, who celebrate it, especially when winter solstice, Ramadan, Kwanzaa, and Hannukah all get specific recognition by these spineless, PC, companies.
ScreamingEagle said:Those who choose to remain blind will eventually be blindsided.
MissileMan said:How does a store saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" infringe on your ability to celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday or prevent you from saying "Merry Christmas"? Is December 25th not Christmas unless Walmart acknowledges it is? Get over it already!
MissileMan said:A master of exaggeration. But, I'll play along. You're newest argument is that Christmas is the only one of the three, Christmas, Hannukah, and Kwanza that is a federally recognized holiday, therefore the others aren't real holidays and should be excluded. OK, I'll buy that. Got a question for you though...what happens exactly one week after Christmas? Could it possibly be a second federally recognized HOLIDAY? Hmmm? Doesn't the addition of a second REAL holiday make a "Happy Holidays" as in plural, a totally appropriate sentiment during this time of year?
BTW, your little rant above did not answer my two questions that I posed.
So you would prefer that a (by your own accounts) large chunk of that 85% mock Christmas by celebrating it when they aren't true Christians?Hobbit said:Christmas is a national holiday. It's the reason 85% of Americans, Christian or otherwise, are so jolly. Sure, there are 15% who don't celebrate, but it's still a national holiday, period.
The ClayTaurus said:So you would prefer that a (by your own accounts) large chunk of that 85% mock Christmas by celebrating it when they aren't true Christians?
Hobbit said:The Christmas holiday isn't solely a Christian holiday. According to the congresssional act that made it a national holiday, it is a holiday celebrating Jesus as a philosopher (keeping in line with the 1st ammendment prohibition against religion sponsorship). Whether you want to take it as far as celebrating Jesus as the son of God or not is your own business.
Most Christians aren't as up tight as you seem to think. It's not like the Muslim idea that daring to do anything Muslim when not actually a Muslim is an abomination. On the contrary, most Christians enjoy it when non-Christians celebrate a Christian holiday like Christmas or Easter, as that leaves a great opportunity for evangelism by reminding them of the full meaning behind the holiday.
Commercialization has done some damage to the image of Christmas, especially when Christmas becomes the time of year when people fight over hot items, but now that we have all this PC bullcrap preventing it from even being called Christmas, the fact that there's actually Christian holiday anywhere in the mix is becoming obselete. If things keep going down their current path, some people will start growing up under the impression that Kwanzaa is the primary December holiday (because anybody taking down their "Happy Kwanzaa" signs would immediately be ostracized for racism).
The ClayTaurus said:It just appears to be a bit of a mixed message, that's all. I'm probably a lot less offended by Christmas than you seem to think; I ask my questions not because I want to see Christmas disappear, but because I'm trying to clarify the Christian position, which, as I said, sometimes is a bit murky (IMO, of course).
The ClayTaurus said:It just appears to be a bit of a mixed message, that's all. I'm probably a lot less offended by Christmas than you seem to think; I ask my questions not because I want to see Christmas disappear, but because I'm trying to clarify the Christian position, which, as I said, sometimes is a bit murky (IMO, of course).
