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Pale Rider said:
MissileMan said:I did indeed.
I don't think that it's a conspiracy to slight Christians. I think it's an effort by retailers to reach out to as many shoppers as possible with the least amount of advertising/decorating money spent. If I can put up one sign, "Happy Holidays", that means "Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, Happy Kwanza, Happy New Year", all in one shot, it makes sense. I don't have to take down the "Merry Christmas" signs on Dec 26 and put up the "Happy New Year" signs. It doesn't give any one holiday a higher status than any of the others, which is where I think most of the complaining is coming from.
Works for me. I said so in another post too.Pale Rider said:I don't either. No Merry Christmas, no shop there.
And Excellent point! Another is these folks are in business to make money, as much money as they can, NOT cater to any religion. If that's what they where doing, I guess they'd have a Christian book store.MissileMan said:Another reason I think it's much ado about nothing:
Unless you are prepared to show that all of these businesses are owned by the 15% of the population that aren't Christian, then Christians are also among those putting up "Happy Holidays" signs.
MissileMan said:Another reason I think it's much ado about nothing:
Unless you are prepared to show that all of these businesses are owned by the 15% of the population that aren't Christian, then Christians are also among those putting up "Happy Holidays" signs.
Mr. P said:Okay, I just gotta ask…
What religion does the phrase “Happy Holidays” indorse or reject, and why?
Mr. P said:Okay, I just gotta ask
What religion does the phrase Happy Holidays indorse or reject, and why?
Gawd I was hoping that wasn't the point...But knew it was..ScreamingEagle said:None.
That's the POINT.
Why not just answer?Pale Rider said:I'll answer that if you can answer this Mr. P, are you going to put up a holiday tree, or a Christmas tree? Are you going Christmas shopping, or holiday shopping? Are going to have a Christmas dinner, or a holiday dinner? Should I go on?
To tell you the truth, I don't know why we're so far disconnected on reasoning here.
Pale Rider said:I'll answer that if you can answer this Mr. P, are you going to put up a holiday tree, or a Christmas tree? Are you going Christmas shopping, or holiday shopping? Are going to have a Christmas dinner, or a holiday dinner? Should I go on?
Mr. P said:Gawd I was hoping that wasn't the point...But knew it was..
Some of you are scary..really you are...No different than the Islam extremist, cept ya ain't blowin shit up ...YET.
My way or no way right guys?
Clue Far Right is just as scary..ScreamingEagle said:WE'RE scary? What about us scares you exactly?
We're not scary like Islam extremists who kill Christians in their countries.
Also scary is the Far Left which wants to totally anihilate religion from the face of the earth.
Mr. P said:Clue Far Right is just as scary..
Mr. P said:Clue Far Right is just as scary..
Bonnie said:I agree the very far right can be scary just as any one person who is fanatical about anything is...however Im not sure that people who take offense to stores that purposefully leave out Merry Christmas while taking in heaps of money from said consumers is what I would call fanatics or far right loons. Again the anger is mostly directed at the actual groups that really are doing their very best to rid the public of open expressions and celebrations of Christianity, the retail industry is the little insulting icing on the holiday cake, at least that's my perspective. I don't care one way or the other really about the stores although I do think it's ridiculous and somewhat hypocritical if they do that, Im more concerned with the Michael Newdow's et all.
Mr. P said:Gawd I was hoping that wasn't the point...But knew it was..
Some of you are scary..really you are...No different than the Islam extremist, cept ya ain't blowin shit up ...YET.
My way or no way right guys?
From your example, it sounds to me like the system is working in exactly the way you claim it is not working. You say that the majority always bends to the will of the minority and then show us a case where the exact opposite happened.Pale Rider said:Ask Macy's how the happy holidays signs worked out for them last year. Not good. They lost a lot of business. They're putting up the Merry Christmas signs this year though, and I bet they do much better. Which is one of the points I've been trying to make. You cator to the minority, you exclude the MAJORITY. Very simply really.