McCain is the Greatest Flip Flopper of all time

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    "Fortune: Jonathan Chait has written in The New Republic that if John McCain circa 2007 were running against John McCain circa 2000, he would call John McCain 2000 a Communist."

    McCain goes over to the dark side - Los Angeles Times

    "Meanwhile, McCain is going around saying things like, "I take stands on principle, and I don't switch positions depending on what audience or what time it is in the electoral calendar." Apparently we're supposed to swallow the notion that Barack Obama's (short) list of policy reversals is entirely motivated by political calculation, while the extremely long list of issues where McCain has moved right since 2004 is a response to "changed circumstances.""

    McCain Responds to Chait, Chait Responds to McCain - The Plank

    "Long-time readers know that I’ve been emphasizing John McCain’s dozens of major policy flip-flops for months now, hoping that this would a) catch on as a campaign issue; and b) undermine McCain’s unearned reputation for principled stands on the issues."

    http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15924.html
     
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    Long-time readers know you are a lost in the sauce, uber-leftwingnut who spews baseless accusations against anything to the right of you on a regular basis.

    You killed your own credibility LONG ago.
     
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    John McCain is the Manchurian Candidate.:eusa_whistle:
     
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    it is called nuance and refinement of posistion based on reason and new information.....
     
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    "I take stands on principle, and I don't switch positions depending on what audience or what time it is in the electoral calendar."

    this quote made me laugh quite heavily. oh mccain, you sure are entertaining.
     
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    I can't think of anything McCain has directly flipflopped on offhand. You have any examples?

    For instance, he said he was against the GWB tax cuts when Bush was first trying to pass them.

    Now he says he want's to keep the tax cuts. Well, duh, we were not in or near a recession when he was first against the tax cuts. Increasing tax rates during a recession is a recipe for a depression.

    He (quite smartly) was against ethanol back then, too, because at the time and to a degree even today the ethnaol business is a hoax. But now that oil and hence gas is through the roof, ethanol and other biofuels become more compelling to use.

    These are not flipflops.

    Flipflops are what Obama is famous for: The handgun ban is constitutional, next the same handgun ban is no longer constitutional. Did the fucking constitution change Odumba? First Obama challenges anyone else to take public financing if he did, and McCain accept his challenge. Then Obama backs out on his deal. Has public financing changed? Nope. But he says that public financing is flaud, not that he now knows he can get a lot of private donors.

    Those are flipflops.
     
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    I counted maybe one flipflop out of all of those, though I really did merely scan the last third of the page or so. The flipflop was on Roe v Wade.

    Every week or so Obama flipflops more than McCain does in a decade of politics.
     
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    Torture.
     
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