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This is why wind, solar, wave, and thermal are far more environmentally friendly. You don't spill shit into the environment with these resources....
Yes! I hate oil! You figured it out. I hate oil, oil sheen, oil paintings all of it.
You support collectivist totalitarianism.
Oil is the means of mobility for individuals. Oil along with the automobile was the great enabler of individual mobility, allowing the commoner the ability to go where they please, when they please, with no permission from or oversight by the rulers. As long as a person can jump in a car and go where they want, then they cannot be controlled.
The left doesn't care about oil, the left cares about controlling people, deciding who goes where, when, and why. Subvert the individual to the collective is the root of everything done by the left.
Ok so the oil spill isn't bad because:
Its' from Think Progress
They used liters instead of barrels
Anything else? Is it photoshopped? Did some lefties throw oil around for a photo op? Come on keep bringing the stupid
This is why wind, solar, wave, and thermal are far more environmentally friendly. You don't spill shit into the environment with these resources....
Yes! I hate oil! You figured it out. I hate oil, oil sheen, oil paintings all of it.
You support collectivist totalitarianism.
Oil is the means of mobility for individuals. Oil along with the automobile was the great enabler of individual mobility, allowing the commoner the ability to go where they please, when they please, with no permission from or oversight by the rulers. As long as a person can jump in a car and go where they want, then they cannot be controlled.
The left doesn't care about oil, the left cares about controlling people, deciding who goes where, when, and why. Subvert the individual to the collective is the root of everything done by the left.
The right doesn't try to control people. How about the anti abortion crowd? Even after Roe vs. Wade, they don't give up.
This is why wind, solar, wave, and thermal are far more environmentally friendly. You don't spill shit into the environment with these resources....
Bullshit. Windmills kill more birds in a single year than every oil spill......ever.
Wake up dude.
This is why wind, solar, wave, and thermal are far more environmentally friendly. You don't spill shit into the environment with these resources....
Bullshit. Windmills kill more birds in a single year than every oil spill......ever.
Wake up dude.
Many enviros are against wind farms.
Yes! I hate oil! You figured it out. I hate oil, oil sheen, oil paintings all of it.
You support collectivist totalitarianism.
Oil is the means of mobility for individuals. Oil along with the automobile was the great enabler of individual mobility, allowing the commoner the ability to go where they please, when they please, with no permission from or oversight by the rulers. As long as a person can jump in a car and go where they want, then they cannot be controlled.
The left doesn't care about oil, the left cares about controlling people, deciding who goes where, when, and why. Subvert the individual to the collective is the root of everything done by the left.
The right doesn't try to control people. How about the anti abortion crowd? Even after Roe vs. Wade, they don't give up.
Bullshit. Windmills kill more birds in a single year than every oil spill......ever.
Wake up dude.
Many enviros are against wind farms.
I now classify them as CONSERVATIONISTS. THEY care about the environment. Environmentalists care about politics and the control of people. A HUGE difference.
Again same nonsense that everyone was told about the gulf spill, Alaska pipeline, etc...have you visited the gulf lately? Have you talked to the people living there? Misinformation and gilded reporting in the further promotion of preconceived agendas paints a picture that fails to resemble the truth. I guess thats what extremists do best, spew BS.
Again same nonsense that everyone was told about the gulf spill, Alaska pipeline, etc...have you visited the gulf lately? Have you talked to the people living there? Misinformation and gilded reporting in the further promotion of preconceived agendas paints a picture that fails to resemble the truth. I guess thats what extremists do best, spew BS.
OK, asshole, instead of lying flap-yap, here is the reality;
EXXON VALDEZ OIL SPILL: Ten Years Later
STATE OF THE SOUND
Toxic effects linger.
To the naked eye, Prince William Sound may appear “normal.” But if you look beneath the surface, oil continues to contaminate beaches, national parks, and designated wilderness. In fact, the Office of Technology Assessment estimated beach cleanup and oil skinning only recovered 3-4% of the Exxon Valdez oil and studies by government scientists estimated that only 14% of the oil was removed during cleanup operations.[15]
A decade later, the ecosystem still suffers. Substantial contamination of mussel beds persists and this remarkably unweathered oil is a continuing source of toxic hydrocarbons.[16] Sea otters, river otters, Barrow’s goldeneyes, and harlequin ducks have showed evidence of continued hydrocarbon exposure in the past few years.[17]
The depressed population of Pacific herring – a critical source of food for over 40 predators including seabirds, harbor seals and Steller sea lions – is having severe impacts up the food chain. Wildlife population declines continue for harbor seal, killer whales, harlequin ducks, common loon, pigeon guillemot, and pelagic, red-faced cormorant, and double-crested cormorants.
Exxon-funded scientists have repeatedly dismissed evidence of on-going effects to wildlife from the massive 1989 oil spill by claiming that oil seeps contribute a bigger background source of hydrocarbons in bottom sediments in Prince William Sound.[18] Yet, they dismiss coal as a possible source due to ignoring location of known deposits and other factors about its “fingerprint.” A new study by the National Marine Fisheries Service concluded that the source is coal, and that coal hydrocarbons are not chemically available to impact wildlife.[19]
Oil is more toxic than thought.
Even before the spill, scientists knew that a drop of oil could kill a bird’s egg. But after studying the impact of the Valdez spill, they now believe oil pollution is at least 100 times more toxic to fish than previously known. It is also more persistent.
In Katmai National Park wilderness, oil remained along the rocky coast with only slight weathering compared to freshly spilled oil after more than 5 years. Chemically, it was like 11-day old Exxon Valdez crude, with high concentrations of toxic polynuclear aromatic hydrocarbons (PAH’s).[20] In the past, it was presumed that wave action would have rapidly removed oil in such areas. Future releases of toxic oil can still affect wildlife.
New studies by the National Marine Fisheries Service show that even very low levels of weathered Exxon Valdez oil (0.5 to 1 part per billion PAH’s) are toxic at the early life stages of salmon and herring.[21] This data on toxicity to salmon eggs shows that current Alaska water quality standards allow hydrocarbon levels that can impair reproduction.
Exxon Valdez spill resulted in profound physiological effects to fish and wildlife. These included reproductive failure, genetic damage, curved spines, lowered growth and body weights, altered feeding habits, reduced egg volume, liver damage, eye tumors, and debilitating brain lesions.
Now I have no problem getting to back to basics. I could do it again.
My husband and I went primitive for a number of years on our farm in southern Ontario.
We pumped our own water, heated with wood and ran with kerosene lanterns and candles. Been there, done it and got the t shirt.
But for the rest of you who always bitch whine and moan about fossil fuels, what are you prepared to do?
Is your computer right now running on solar or wind? If not and you are using electricity from a coal or natural gas powered hydro plant I don't think you have any right to bitch.
Are you using an electric or natural gas stove to cook on? If not, I don't think you have any right to bitch.
Are you using a wood stove to heat your house? Are you pumping your own water?
Are you only listening to battery powered radios for your sources of information and entertainment?
I don't think you have any right to bitch.
Sorries.
Get off the grid. Then you have the right to bitch.
So, what would be a reasonable amount to spill in your back yard?
Considering I dont have a major oil production facility near my backyard any amount quite frankly would be a bit of a puzzle. I didnt see the article where oil facilities each come with Transporters or Portals.
You mean like... pipelines?
Now I have no problem getting to back to basics. I could do it again.
My husband and I went primitive for a number of years on our farm in southern Ontario.
We pumped our own water, heated with wood and ran with kerosene lanterns and candles. Been there, done it and got the t shirt.
But for the rest of you who always bitch whine and moan about fossil fuels, what are you prepared to do?
Is your computer right now running on solar or wind? If not and you are using electricity from a coal or natural gas powered hydro plant I don't think you have any right to bitch.
Are you using an electric or natural gas stove to cook on? If not, I don't think you have any right to bitch.
Are you using a wood stove to heat your house? Are you pumping your own water?
Are you only listening to battery powered radios for your sources of information and entertainment?
I don't think you have any right to bitch.
Sorries.
Get off the grid. Then you have the right to bitch.
Bravo TD
They better hope they don't get what their wishing for cause they might just get it
Not many can say they did what you did.
It's fun for about a month, then reality rears its ugly head!
Many enviros are against wind farms.
I now classify them as CONSERVATIONISTS. THEY care about the environment. Environmentalists care about politics and the control of people. A HUGE difference.
I've got scales of people as well.
I've been a conservationist all my life. I'm meaning enviros as in not quite conservationists yet but running from their former state of enviro whacko.
This gentleman is the real deal. Not sure if you know of him. His article is worth the read when you have the time.
He's got serious creds.
Wind farms vs wildlife
Posted on 01/03/2013 by windaction
The shocking environmental cost of renewable energy
And from part of the article:
Im a lecturer in biological and human sciences at Oxford university.
I trained as a zoologist, Ive worked as an environmental consultant conducting impact assessments on projects like the Folkestone-to-London rail link and I now teach ecology and conservation.
Though I started out neutral on renewable energy, Ive since seen the havoc wreaked on wildlife by wind power, hydro power, biofuels and tidal barrages.
The environmentalists who support such projects do so for ideological reasons.
What few of them have in their heads, though, is the consolation of science.
My speciality is species extinction.
When I was a child, my father used to tell me about all the animals hed seen growing up in Kent the grass snakes, the lime hawk moths and what shocked me when we went looking for them was how few there were left.
Species extinction is a serious issue: around the world were losing up to 40 a day.
Yet environmentalists are urging us to adopt technologies that are hastening this process.
Among the most destructive of these is wind power.
Wind farms vs wildlife | Ontario Wind Resistance
Again same nonsense that everyone was told about the gulf spill, Alaska pipeline, etc...have you visited the gulf lately? Have you talked to the people living there? Misinformation and gilded reporting in the further promotion of preconceived agendas paints a picture that fails to resemble the truth. I guess thats what extremists do best, spew BS.
OK, asshole, instead of lying flap-yap, here is the reality;
EXXON VALDEZ OIL SPILL: Ten Years Later
STATE OF THE SOUND
Toxic effects linger.
To the naked eye, Prince William Sound may appear normal. But if you look beneath the surface, oil continues to contaminate beaches, national parks, and designated wilderness. In fact, the Office of Technology Assessment estimated beach cleanup and oil skinning only recovered 3-4% of the Exxon Valdez oil and studies by government scientists estimated that only 14% of the oil was removed during cleanup operations.[15]
A decade later, the ecosystem still suffers. Substantial contamination of mussel beds persists and this remarkably unweathered oil is a continuing source of toxic hydrocarbons.[16] Sea otters, river otters, Barrows goldeneyes, and harlequin ducks have showed evidence of continued hydrocarbon exposure in the past few years.[17]
The depressed population of Pacific herring a critical source of food for over 40 predators including seabirds, harbor seals and Steller sea lions is having severe impacts up the food chain. Wildlife population declines continue for harbor seal, killer whales, harlequin ducks, common loon, pigeon guillemot, and pelagic, red-faced cormorant, and double-crested cormorants.
Exxon-funded scientists have repeatedly dismissed evidence of on-going effects to wildlife from the massive 1989 oil spill by claiming that oil seeps contribute a bigger background source of hydrocarbons in bottom sediments in Prince William Sound.[18] Yet, they dismiss coal as a possible source due to ignoring location of known deposits and other factors about its fingerprint. A new study by the National Marine Fisheries Service concluded that the source is coal, and that coal hydrocarbons are not chemically available to impact wildlife.[19]
Oil is more toxic than thought.
Even before the spill, scientists knew that a drop of oil could kill a birds egg. But after studying the impact of the Valdez spill, they now believe oil pollution is at least 100 times more toxic to fish than previously known. It is also more persistent.
In Katmai National Park wilderness, oil remained along the rocky coast with only slight weathering compared to freshly spilled oil after more than 5 years. Chemically, it was like 11-day old Exxon Valdez crude, with high concentrations of toxic polynuclear aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs).[20] In the past, it was presumed that wave action would have rapidly removed oil in such areas. Future releases of toxic oil can still affect wildlife.
New studies by the National Marine Fisheries Service show that even very low levels of weathered Exxon Valdez oil (0.5 to 1 part per billion PAHs) are toxic at the early life stages of salmon and herring.[21] This data on toxicity to salmon eggs shows that current Alaska water quality standards allow hydrocarbon levels that can impair reproduction.
Exxon Valdez spill resulted in profound physiological effects to fish and wildlife. These included reproductive failure, genetic damage, curved spines, lowered growth and body weights, altered feeding habits, reduced egg volume, liver damage, eye tumors, and debilitating brain lesions.
Now I have no problem getting to back to basics. I could do it again.
My husband and I went primitive for a number of years on our farm in southern Ontario.
We pumped our own water, heated with wood and ran with kerosene lanterns and candles. Been there, done it and got the t shirt.
But for the rest of you who always bitch whine and moan about fossil fuels, what are you prepared to do?
Is your computer right now running on solar or wind? If not and you are using electricity from a coal or natural gas powered hydro plant I don't think you have any right to bitch.
Are you using an electric or natural gas stove to cook on? If not, I don't think you have any right to bitch.
Are you using a wood stove to heat your house? Are you pumping your own water?
Are you only listening to battery powered radios for your sources of information and entertainment?
I don't think you have any right to bitch.
Sorries.
Get off the grid. Then you have the right to bitch.
Bravo TD
They better hope they don't get what their wishing for cause they might just get it
Not many can say they did what you did.
It's fun for about a month, then reality rears its ugly head!
We did it for almost 3 years. I'll tell ya, I've always been into water conservation on many levels, but when you pump for bathing, toilet, dishes, laundry, you get positively religious about never wasting any water.
I learned to do a stir fry in a fireplace and roast a turkey on a camp stove; it really was ok.
The most fun was Friday nights with an oldie station on dancing to tunes in front of the fireplace by candlelight with the dogs watching us from the couches.
I love having all the amenities I have again now (like turning on a tap) but I also loved the simplicity of life back then.
