Mancin and Sinema Have Saved the Democrats From Themselves

Germany wasn't a "democracy" until after WWII. You had a monarchy followed by a military dictatorship followed by a Nazi dictatorship.
so you can now see the folly of your "works better" claim

That's not democracy.
of course its not...Hitler had no use for a "clunky" political body that just keeps getting in the way of his agenda...
...in fact only a free constitutional democracy would have such a body...
imagine Hitlers reaction if a political body like our senate put the Kibosh on his "final solution"...he'd sound like you
 
so you can now see the folly of your "works better" claim

No, not really. I'm Mean, I could explain it to you again, but I think you STILL wouldn't understand.

of course its not...Hitler had no use for a "clunky" political body that just keeps getting in the way of his agenda...
...in fact only a free constitutional democracy would have such a body...
imagine Hitlers reaction if a political body like our senate put the Kibosh on his "final solution"...he'd sound like you

Actually, Germany had one of those, it was called the Reichstag. And, yes, it's complete inefficiency is why Germans largely gave up on Democracy.

That we have seen the rise of extremists like Trump and Sanders makes me wonder if Americans are giving up on Democracy.
 
But, but, but, that's not what the Founding Slave Rapists had in mind!



One person, one vote. This isn't complicated, Twinky.



A person in Wyoming should get one vote.
A person in California should get one vote.

Giving voters in Wyoming more voting power than people in California is just dumb.
You really don't understand how a democratic republic really works, do you?
Just a hint for you, it isn't 'Mob Rule'.
 
You just shamelessly lie, would you care to address these two opposite claims of yours joe?
earlier:
Germany wasn't a "democracy" until after WWII. You had a monarchy followed by a military dictatorship followed by a Nazi dictatorship.

That's not democracy.
Now:
Actually, Germany had one of those, it was called the Reichstag. And, yes, it's complete inefficiency is why Germans largely gave up on Democracy.
Those two statements taken together prove that at least one of them is a lie...they were not a democracy and the Reichstag made them give up on that democracy? do you stand by that joe?

And the reichstag [which was a building] was a parliament/congress not a senate that protects minority opinion
Hitler would have never allowed a senate that could put the breaks on the Nazi agenda, he would have smashed our senate into a million pieces for getting in his way
 
You really don't understand how a democratic republic really works, do you?
Just a hint for you, it isn't 'Mob Rule'.

You are making the assumption that our system "Works". When people vote for an agenda by a majority of 8 million votes, and they can't get most of it done because the Empty Rectangles are blocking things from happening, then our system isn't working.

Those two statements taken together prove that at least one of them is a lie...they were not a democracy and the Reichstag made them give up on that democracy? do you stand by that joe?
Um, yes, but you are way too stupid to understand the concept... I think you might even have a learning disability.


And the reichstag [which was a building] was a parliament/congress not a senate that protects minority opinion
Hitler would have never allowed a senate that could put the breaks on the Nazi agenda, he would have smashed our senate into a million pieces for getting in his way
No, the Reichstag was a legislative body. And like the Senate, it was completely ineffective, which is why in the decade before Hitler, Germany went through a dozen chancellors and real power was held by Hindenberg and the military ruling by decree.
 
Um, yes, but you are way too stupid to understand the concept... I think you might even have a learning disability.
TRANSLATION: "OK so ya caught me in another lie big deal"
No, the Reichstag was a legislative body. And like the Senate, it was completely ineffective, which is why in the decade before Hitler, Germany went through a dozen chancellors and real power was held by Hindenberg and the military ruling by decree.
The reichstag was the german parliament or congress, the senate equivalent was either the BUDESRAT or the REICHSRAT which Hitler crushed in 1933 or 34
Notice the dates joe, and for everyone else watch the lies that are sure to follow:

proof you lied
Bundesrat was the name of similar bodies in the North German Confederation (1867) and the German Empire (1871). Its predecessor in the Weimar Republic (1919–1933) was the Reichsrat.

LOOK JOE JUST LIKE YOU
The Reichsrat was abolished by a National Socialist law in 1934, roughly a year after Hitler had come to power.
Your problem is you were born in the wrong country at the wrong time
 
You are making the assumption that our system "Works". When people vote for an agenda by a majority of 8 million votes, and they can't get most of it done because the Empty Rectangles are blocking things from happening, then our system isn't working.
You still don't understand the concept a democrat republic.
You do understand mob rule.
Example of mob rule.....Two wolves and a sheep vote on what's for dinner.
 
And I think a lot of Congressional Democrats are breathing a sigh of relief--in both Houses. Deep down, I think there are a lot of people in the White House who are breathing that sigh of relief as well.

Getting rid of the filibuster is a rubber stamp for one party rule. While I support some changes to the filibuster to where it would be a true stoppage of all business in the Senate and force a compromise of some sort, I do not support getting rid of it all together.

While its true the Republicans may do away with it when they get control of the Senate, you can't control what they do. And that would really suck. But all you can do is control your actions...it is best to leave the filibuster in place.
You are a two faced liar. How do you live with yourself. You’re only saying this because you know the inevitable is coming.
 
The reichstag was the german parliament or congress, the senate equivalent was either the BUDESRAT or the REICHSRAT which Hitler crushed in 1933 or 34
Notice the dates joe, and for everyone else watch the lies that are sure to follow:

Yawn, you miss the point... the point was that the Reichstag didn't work during the Weimar Republic. There were ample opportunities to stop Hitler, but they couldn't get their act together because the Centrist parties couldn't form a government with the far left.

You still don't understand the concept a democrat republic.
You do understand mob rule.
Example of mob rule.....Two wolves and a sheep vote on what's for dinner.

THat's a dumb concept... The wolves are going to have something for dinner regardless.

That demagogues like Trump and Sanders have become as popular as they have shows that Americans have kind of tired of a "Democratic Republic".
 
And I think a lot of Congressional Democrats are breathing a sigh of relief--in both Houses. Deep down, I think there are a lot of people in the White House who are breathing that sigh of relief as well.

Getting rid of the filibuster is a rubber stamp for one party rule. While I support some changes to the filibuster to where it would be a true stoppage of all business in the Senate and force a compromise of some sort, I do not support getting rid of it all together.

While its true the Republicans may do away with it when they get control of the Senate, you can't control what they do. And that would really suck. But all you can do is control your actions...it is best to leave the filibuster in place.

The irony is that Simena benefitted from dem late night cheating in Maricopa County to get elected
 
Yawn, you miss the point... the point was that the Reichstag didn't work during the Weimar Republic. There were ample opportunities to stop Hitler, but they couldn't get their act together because the Centrist parties couldn't form a government with the far left.



THat's a dumb concept... The wolves are going to have something for dinner regardless.

That demagogues like Trump and Sanders have become as popular as they have shows that Americans have kind of tired of a "Democratic Republic".

Please go move some place more to your liking, far, far away
 
Yawn, you miss the point... the point was that the Reichstag didn't work during the Weimar Republic. There were ample opportunities to stop Hitler, but they couldn't get their act together because the Centrist parties couldn't form a government with the far left.

lol, you just make it up as you go along and hope no one calls you on it...
now that you know [or should know] the reichstag [which was a building] was a parliament the equivalent of congress, do you want to get rid of our congress and keep the senate now? [of course you don't because you were just making that part up anyway]
Hitler eliminated germany's version of a senate [the bundesrat] and kept germany's version of congress like you want to do and that is the point.
 
lol, you just make it up as you go along and hope no one calls you on it...
now that you know [or should know] the reichstag [which was a building] was a parliament the equivalent of congress, do you want to get rid of our congress and keep the senate now? [of course you don't because you were just making that part up anyway]
Hitler eliminated germany's version of a senate [the bundesrat] and kept germany's version of congress like you want to do and that is the point.

Corky, Hitler didn't get rid of the Reichstag.. .he just cleared it out of people who weren't Nazis.

The Nazis got a majority because the Zentrum and German National People's Party joined a coalition with the NSDAP, under the delusion that between Von Papen and Hindenburg, they could keep Hitler as a "Chancellor in Chains".

Instead, Hitler outmaneuvered them, Hindenburg died. Guys like von Papen quickly found themselves falling in line.
 
Corky, Hitler didn't get rid of the Reichstag
And I made that perfectly clear in my post [which is why to this point it is the only correct thing you have said]
.. .he just cleared it out of people who weren't Nazis.
and then eliminated the Bundesrat [senate] and that is what is being attempted here in the U.S.


The Nazis got a majority because the Zentrum and German National People's Party joined a coalition with the NSDAP, under the delusion that between Von Papen and Hindenburg, they could keep Hitler as a "Chancellor in Chains".
that is how most of the democracies outside the U.S. work, [it's called a coalition government] and how the white elitists in this country would like our system to work.
Instead, Hitler outmaneuvered them, Hindenburg died. Guys like von Papen quickly found themselves falling in line.
he did that ["outmaneuvered them"] by removing his opposition like "the Bundesrat"* [senate] and guys like "von Papen" had no other choice but to "fall in line" because there was nowhere else to turn...
had nazi germany had a senate like ours they could have put the brakes on hitlers agenda even if they only had minority support around the country.

*the "bundesrat" may have gone by another name at the time [reichsrat? perhaps] but I'm not sure
 
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