Man makes mass shooting threat. Is not arrested. Guns not confiscated.

and it'd be easy to stop the invasion . From what I read , eastern Europe countries are stopping the invasion ALife .
Yes, the difference is that East European people know from Soviet era history what it is like to live under a totalitarian centralized power. Wester Europeans are too stupid and stuck up to learn from them, so the moozies will teach them now the hard way.
----------------------------------- and I am looking forward to the teaching of the Western 'euros' and probably the 'english' and mericans 'ALIFE .
Wonderful! (Sarcastic) Or shall I say Wunderbar Commarade? Hehe. Yes the world is going to pot. Popcorn?
 
I'M looking forward to the 'muslims' joining the militarys and police agengies and moving into the Justice system in all of Europe and the USA 'ALife .

In Europe, they already do, count how many turban wearing airport officials and border agents there are there. As for the US, you will not get a passport or visa without sufficient Spanish knowledge.
 
aw , i'm just an old guy . My interest is in the future and only really to see if my thinking is accurate that the best system of Western Everything that the world has ever seen is going to heck 'ALife .
 
Don't you have to commit a crime first before things are taken away from you? Talking is not a crime, right?

Next time you board a commercial plane, tell the flight crew you have a bomb. Test your claim that "talking is not a crime".

Indeed. Socialism is coming fast. By the way, a few years ago the pilot of a commuter flight got arrested when he answered the bomb question by saying that he didn't need a bomb to bring down an airplane.
 
aw , i'm just an old guy . My interest is in the future and only really to see if my thinking is accurate that the best system of Western Everything that the world has ever seen is going to heck 'ALife .

I am a Milennial but recently when I travelled through the farms of Zimbabwe and Kenya, even the black workers knew that they have now the freedom that America and the West used to have but not now any more.
 
I fit not in any cliche, which you use. But in this words I am traditional man - I am for the freedom of everyone, speciallly also for the freedom of poor people too and specially for the freedom of peopel who don't have weapons. And I am a democrat, who lives in a democracy.

Aha. You are able to say stupid things. But you could also be a real psychopath. In first case you had not to provoke but to pay the police to find out that you are not a terrorist or psychoptah - in second case the police and judges have to take care that you are not able to realize what you say, because in the USA exist war weapons for private use, which could easily kill dozends - or even hundreds - of people within an extremely short time.

Under both conditions you should have no right to own and to use weapons any longer. I'm quite sure, who is so stupid - or a psychopath - to say so to a policeman (or another authority) is also not able to accept the most simple rules in context with weapons.




Very simple. You need all your weapons and unlimited ammo for each of them.


I never needed any weapon during my life.

Because, what if the police suddenly learns from the USSR

USSR? The Soviet Union is dead since decades.

and tries to take away all yours even when you don't call his GF fat.

Your "Trump" propaganda strategy is by the way unethical. I never said to anyone anything in this context. And no woman in the western world is normally on the own free will "fat" (= thicker than this is good for the own health).

Do you know how many communist wanna-be bullies are in Congress?

It seems to me you think I am an US-American. I am not. I am a German.

All these young female ultra left bullies work for the powers that turn your government into a slave keeping brigade, with you being the slave. Pelosi is only a small piece of them. They even go to the Mexican border to help the gang migrants to cross over here faster. And you are saying that you must not own any weapons?

As far as I can see your evaluation of the situation on the Mexican border is very different from the evaluation of the US-Americans, who live in the near of this border. And as far as I noticed for this people it is often much more important to live together with the people on the other side of the border, than to live against each other. Trump is in my eyes only a delusionist, who uses simple psychological mechanisms to fool all people.

Besides: You have professional border guards and policemen. No need for anyone in the USA to play a kind of right wing racist Guerilla.



But you can probably say that the flood of those Latino gang migrants


Flood?

is a lot more than what a police or border guard can deal with.

Why?

So you need armed individual citizens.

Armed citizens in masses are called an army. An army needs to be authorized from your government - otherwise you are an irregular guerilla in a civil war.

Also, why do you trust your government to the degree that you disarm yourself for it?

Good grief. What a strange form to think. We make little crosses on pieces of paper to hire and fire governments.

This looks like some psychological preconditioning running wide in Europe. One could call that unhealthy.

In Germany never anyone was armed - except in case of war. Even in the middle ages the cities had public weapon chambers - and not private weapons. Who was a citizen had to train with this weapons, because armed conflicts were not seldom in the middle ages. It was a duty to know what to do, where and how, when someone attacked the own city. That's all.


It is a prime example of European psychological abuse, that Europeans don't know, that no government ever is there to serve its citizens, it is there to serve its banks. We Americans have known this ever since the establishment of the Federal Reserve (cartel) in 1913. Europeans were unable to learn this even after the lessons of two world wars. Anyone, I guess except a European, can take one look at the map of Europe before and after ww1-2, and can immediately see how governments serve banks and little else. Even worse, Europeans have just created an even worse banking cartel called European Central Bank, I bet it was not by the interest of the working people.

In addition, when you describe the healthy life of the German people in the medieval ages in contrast to the disarmed 21st century, you end with the phrase "that's all". But that's not all. That is how you protect yourself and your stuff. Some centralized remote totalitarian power in some national capital city, for example Paris or Berlin, can't and will not serve any citizen, they don't do anything ever except collect taxes. They don't appreciate if you slow them down in this by your personal weapons. This is the real reason why the individual towns don't train their folks any more. No wonder that there is no European country with any significant economy outside its capital city, France and Britain being the prime example.

If you Europeans knew what is good for you, then you would do now what we Americans did when we acquired the gigantic continent size Louisiana colony from France in 1805. We cut it up to nearly equal size new states, to distribute power as opposed to centralizing it. Every European "country" a.k.a. bank turf needs to be cut up into small equal size chunks, say the size of Switzerland, and each to be treated as independent country and independent member of the European Union. Just like we Americans did with all our states mentioned above along the Mississippi and many other regions too.

If you do this in Europe, then you will get the chance to stop European brain washing and European mental abuse. I don't think Europeans will ever do this though, because Europeans are too far abused already. Even though for example the Federal Republic of Germany still has its individual member state borders as nominal boundaries within its national map.


You know something about the life in Paris in 1805? Really? And you know something about the life in Berlin in 2019? Really?

 
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Very simple. You need all your weapons and unlimited ammo for each of them.

I never needed any weapon during my life.

Because, what if the police suddenly learns from the USSR

USSR? The Soviet Union is dead since decades.

and tries to take away all yours even when you don't call his GF fat.

Your "Trump" propaganda strategy is by the way unethical. I never said to anyone anything in this context. And no woman in the western world is normally on the own free will "fat" (= thicker than this is good for the own health).

Do you know how many communist wanna-be bullies are in Congress?

It seems to me you think I am an US-American. I am not. I am a German.

All these young female ultra left bullies work for the powers that turn your government into a slave keeping brigade, with you being the slave. Pelosi is only a small piece of them. They even go to the Mexican border to help the gang migrants to cross over here faster. And you are saying that you must not own any weapons?

As far as I can see your evaluation of the situation on the Mexican border is very different from the evaluation of the US-Americans, who live in the near of this border. And as far as I noticed for this people it is often much more important to live together with the people on the other side of the border, than to live against each other. Trump is in my eyes only a delusionist, who uses simple psychological mechanisms to fool all people.

Besides: You have professional border guards and policemen. No need for anyone in the USA to play a kind of right wing racist Guerilla.



But you can probably say that the flood of those Latino gang migrants


Flood?

is a lot more than what a police or border guard can deal with.

Why?

So you need armed individual citizens.

Armed citizens in masses are called an army. An army needs to be authorized from your government - otherwise you are an irregular guerilla in a civil war.

Also, why do you trust your government to the degree that you disarm yourself for it?

Good grief. What a strange form to think. We make little crosses on pieces of paper to hire and fire governments.

This looks like some psychological preconditioning running wide in Europe. One could call that unhealthy.

In Germany never anyone was armed - except in case of war. Even in the middle ages the cities had public weapon chambers - and not private weapons. Who was a citizen had to train with this weapons, because armed conflicts were not seldom in the middle ages. It was a duty to know what to do, where and how, when someone attacked the own city. That's all.


It is a prime example of European psychological abuse, that Europeans don't know, that no government ever is there to serve its citizens, it is there to serve its banks. We Americans have known this ever since the establishment of the Federal Reserve (cartel) in 1913. Europeans were unable to learn this even after the lessons of two world wars. Anyone, I guess except a European, can take one look at the map of Europe before and after ww1-2, and can immediately see how governments serve banks and little else. Even worse, Europeans have just created an even worse banking cartel called European Central Bank, I bet it was not by the interest of the working people.

In addition, when you describe the healthy life of the German people in the medieval ages in contrast to the disarmed 21st century, you end with the phrase "that's all". But that's not all. That is how you protect yourself and your stuff. Some centralized remote totalitarian power in some national capital city, for example Paris or Berlin, can't and will not serve any citizen, they don't do anything ever except collect taxes. They don't appreciate if you slow them down in this by your personal weapons. This is the real reason why the individual towns don't train their folks any more. No wonder that there is no European country with any significant economy outside its capital city, France and Britain being the prime example.

If you Europeans knew what is good for you, then you would do now what we Americans did when we acquired the gigantic continent size Louisiana colony from France in 1805. We cut it up to nearly equal size new states, to distribute power as opposed to centralizing it. Every European "country" a.k.a. bank turf needs to be cut up into small equal size chunks, say the size of Switzerland, and each to be treated as independent country and independent member of the European Union. Just like we Americans did with all our states mentioned above along the Mississippi and many other regions too.

If you do this in Europe, then you will get the chance to stop European brain washing and European mental abuse. I don't think Europeans will ever do this though, because Europeans are too far abused already. Even though for example the Federal Republic of Germany still has its individual member state borders as nominal boundaries within its national map.


You know something about the life in Paris in 1805? Really? And you know something about the life in Berlin in 2019? Really?


Ok, lets begin with the life Berlin 2019. Life Berlin 2019 begins with this: citizens are extention robots controlled by government computers, which is turn are controlled by big financial cartels. They no longer allow you to have freedom of thought nor freedom of feelings. Everything you feel and think is that they pre package for you.
 
I never needed any weapon during my life.

USSR? The Soviet Union is dead since decades.

Your "Trump" propaganda strategy is by the way unethical. I never said to anyone anything in this context. And no woman in the western world is normally on the own free will "fat" (= thicker than this is good for the own health).

It seems to me you think I am an US-American. I am not. I am a German.

As far as I can see your evaluation of the situation on the Mexican border is very different from the evaluation of the US-Americans, who live in the near of this border. And as far as I noticed for this people it is often much more important to live together with the people on the other side of the border, than to live against each other. Trump is in my eyes only a delusionist, who uses simple psychological mechanisms to fool all people.

Besides: You have professional border guards and policemen. No need for anyone in the USA to play a kind of right wing racist Guerilla.



But you can probably say that the flood of those Latino gang migrants


Flood?

is a lot more than what a police or border guard can deal with.

Why?

So you need armed individual citizens.

Armed citizens in masses are called an army. An army needs to be authorized from your government - otherwise you are an irregular guerilla in a civil war.

Also, why do you trust your government to the degree that you disarm yourself for it?

Good grief. What a strange form to think. We make little crosses on pieces of paper to hire and fire governments.

This looks like some psychological preconditioning running wide in Europe. One could call that unhealthy.

In Germany never anyone was armed - except in case of war. Even in the middle ages the cities had public weapon chambers - and not private weapons. Who was a citizen had to train with this weapons, because armed conflicts were not seldom in the middle ages. It was a duty to know what to do, where and how, when someone attacked the own city. That's all.


It is a prime example of European psychological abuse, that Europeans don't know, that no government ever is there to serve its citizens, it is there to serve its banks. We Americans have known this ever since the establishment of the Federal Reserve (cartel) in 1913. Europeans were unable to learn this even after the lessons of two world wars. Anyone, I guess except a European, can take one look at the map of Europe before and after ww1-2, and can immediately see how governments serve banks and little else. Even worse, Europeans have just created an even worse banking cartel called European Central Bank, I bet it was not by the interest of the working people.

In addition, when you describe the healthy life of the German people in the medieval ages in contrast to the disarmed 21st century, you end with the phrase "that's all". But that's not all. That is how you protect yourself and your stuff. Some centralized remote totalitarian power in some national capital city, for example Paris or Berlin, can't and will not serve any citizen, they don't do anything ever except collect taxes. They don't appreciate if you slow them down in this by your personal weapons. This is the real reason why the individual towns don't train their folks any more. No wonder that there is no European country with any significant economy outside its capital city, France and Britain being the prime example.

If you Europeans knew what is good for you, then you would do now what we Americans did when we acquired the gigantic continent size Louisiana colony from France in 1805. We cut it up to nearly equal size new states, to distribute power as opposed to centralizing it. Every European "country" a.k.a. bank turf needs to be cut up into small equal size chunks, say the size of Switzerland, and each to be treated as independent country and independent member of the European Union. Just like we Americans did with all our states mentioned above along the Mississippi and many other regions too.

If you do this in Europe, then you will get the chance to stop European brain washing and European mental abuse. I don't think Europeans will ever do this though, because Europeans are too far abused already. Even though for example the Federal Republic of Germany still has its individual member state borders as nominal boundaries within its national map.


You know something about the life in Paris in 1805? Really? And you know something about the life in Berlin in 2019? Really?


Ok, lets begin with the life Berlin 2019. Life Berlin 2019 begins with this: citizens are extention robots controlled by government computers, which is turn are controlled by big financial cartels.


Okay: You know less than nothing about Berlin 2019. Who cares - soon will come 2020. Berlin will change - but you will in 2020 still know less than nothing about Berlin.

They no longer allow you to have freedom of thought nor freedom of feelings. Everything you feel and think is that they pre package for you.



 
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and your 'merkel' and others invite them in ALife .
I am not German, so they can kiss merkle's pussy as much as they want.

Speak a little louder, fart of Trump. Germans could perhaps not hear you. The contempt for women in the USA is really astonishing high. What for heavens sake is a woman able to see in this ugly man Donald Trump? Why voted women for this asshole too, who destroys every respect. What could give this irreal man and preacher of hate any competence to be president of the USA?

 
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Florida has the Red Flag law everyone is talking about. I personally think it is unconstitutional. However the stated reason for these laws is to prevent a mass shooting. So when it is not applied, we know it is either a lie, or an excuse.

Tarpon Springs officer quits after making mass shooting threat

So let me get this straight. The guy threatened to kill everyone if he did not get a promotion. He told other cops. The other cops claimed it was a joke. But he told it to several people over several days. If he had become a mass shooter, would the cops he told have been responsible?

My long held belief and one of the things I advocate for is that laws must apply equally to all. They never do, but they really need to.
Maybe this is an example of the fact that red flag laws are not used indiscriminately and there is actually a pretty high standard before someone's weapons are taken away.

They took his service weapon. Why not any others he may have? Or is it just bad form to perform the mass shooting with a department issue weapon?
Again, the police are certainly familiar with the red flag laws and THEY DIDN'T FEEL THIS ROSE TO THAT LEVEL. Most didn't take him seriously anyway. To me this indicates that red flag laws aren't indisriminately used willy-nilly to take away a person's guns.
I've said it twice; I'm not saying it again.
------------------------------------------- yep , Naïve !!
 
--------------------------------- thanks Alethia but I repost 'ICETEA' again and at least this [my clip] clip doesn't have 'jabba the hut' moore in it . --- --- mostly just a repeat but like I say , No jabba Alethia .
 
--------------------------------- thanks Alethia but I repost 'ICETEA' again and at least this [my clip] clip doesn't have 'jabba the hut' moore in it . --- --- mostly just a repeat but like I say , No jabba Alethia .

I just like seeing Mr. Wiggle Moore, wiggle his way out of from answering a question, when the cat got his tongue.


 
and your 'merkel' and others invite them in ALife .
I am not German, so they can kiss merkle's pussy as much as they want.

Speak a little louder, fart of Trump. Germans could perhaps not hear you. The contempt for women in the USA is really astonishing high. What for heavens sake is a woman able to see in this ugly man Donald Trump? Why voted women for this asshole too, who destroys every respect. What could give this irreal man and preacher of hate any competence to be president of the USA?


Women love Trump, because he stands against lesbo feminist globalist socialists like those that you kiss the asses of in Europe.

Women like real man. Liberal metro sexual men are only good at the gay market.

That is why women would not vote for a European politician and prefer Trump.
 
and your 'merkel' and others invite them in ALife .
I am not German, so they can kiss merkle's pussy as much as they want.

Speak a little louder, fart of Trump. Germans could perhaps not hear you. The contempt for women in the USA is really astonishing high. What for heavens sake is a woman able to see in this ugly man Donald Trump? Why voted women for this asshole too, who destroys every respect. What could give this irreal man and preacher of hate any competence to be president of the USA?


Women love Trump, because he stands against lesbo feminist globalist socialists like those that you kiss the asses of in Europe.

Women like real man. Liberal metro sexual men are only good at the gay market.

That is why women would not vote for a European politician and prefer Trump.

-------------------------------------aw , they voted for 'mrobama' 2 times !!
 
and your 'merkel' and others invite them in ALife .
I am not German, so they can kiss merkle's pussy as much as they want.

Speak a little louder, fart of Trump. Germans could perhaps not hear you. The contempt for women in the USA is really astonishing high. What for heavens sake is a woman able to see in this ugly man Donald Trump? Why voted women for this asshole too, who destroys every respect. What could give this irreal man and preacher of hate any competence to be president of the USA?


Women love Trump, because he stands against lesbo feminist globalist socialists like those that you kiss the asses of in Europe.

Women like real man. Liberal metro sexual men are only good at the gay market.

That is why women would not vote for a European politician and prefer Trump.

-------------------------------------aw , they voted for 'mrobama' 2 times !!

I think that st that time Trump was not yet running. It was a little before my time, but Obama was very supportive of lgbt and the women tend to support things like that.
 
If we have laws on the books regarding firearms and they are not enforced,
why make more laws which won't be enforced?
These are things that keep me up nights wondering.
----------------------------------------------- What LAW do THEY have up their sleeves eh [chuckle] ?? And then the LAW's would be on the books and they'd be LAW's ready to be enforced when ever the need arises or police decide to enforce . See the thread about the cop that wasn't disarmed somewhere in this fine forum . I GUESS that the 'red flag' law wasn't fully enforced due to police discretion Meister . ----------- and I totally disagree with 'red flag' laws Meister .
 

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