Making Education Great Again...

Conservatives want to remove science from the class room
Conservatives want the poor child to starve
Conservatives want to put 2,000 year old myths into the class room
Conservatives want to attack freedom of LGBT people

Like the conservatives in the middle east these conservatives are the exact same animal.


Conservatives function via the same beliefs as America's Founders.

These:
Individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.






Now, focus like a laser: what is your disagreement with these views?

Warning:
....if this is the first time you've tried to think you could wind up with an aneurysm!
When did the USA have free Markets and why did the framers replace our first Constitution with one that gave the national government even more power?

When having to confront the indelibly indoctrinated....e.g., you.....
....I feel like a mosquito in a nudist camp: one hardly knows where to begin.

Let's get right to the heart of the issue: Marxism vs capitalism.


1."Marxism rested on the assumption that the condition of the working classes would grow ever worse under capitalism, that there would be but two classes: one small and rich, the other vast and increasingly impoverished, and revolution would be the anodyne that would result in the “common good.” But by the early 20th century, it was clear that this assumption was completely wrong! Under capitalism, the standard of living of all was improving: prices falling, incomes rising, health and sanitation improving, lengthening of life spans, diets becoming more varied, the new jobs created in industry paid more than most could make in agriculture, housing improved, and middle class industrialists and business owners displaced nobility and gentry as heroes."
From a speech by Rev. Robert A. Sirico, President, Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty.

a. Property rights precede liberty. Perhaps some know that before it became “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” in our Declaration of Independence, John Locke wrote that man has a right to “life, liberty, and property.” Property Rights Have Personal Parallels




2. The 'shameful six' political agendas,
Communism, Liberalism, Socialism, Fascism, Nazism and Progressivism,
all see government as all powerful and all-knowing.

"It’s an approach that puts politics before economics. Because it is an attempt to politicize peoples’ lives.”
Nazis: Still Socialists, by Jonah Goldberg, National Review


3. Under wannabe-dictator, Franklin Roosevelt, the relationship government and private ownership changed.

a. January 3, 1936, Roosevelt bragged that he had "new instruments of public power" to battle challenges " ...more menacing than merely a return to the past—bad as that would be. Our resplendent economic autocracy does not want to return to that individualism of which they prate, even though the advantages under that system went to the ruthless and the strong. They realize that in thirty-four months we have built up new instruments of public power. In the hands of a people's Government this power is wholesome and proper. "
Franklin D. Roosevelt: Annual Message to Congress

b. On April 12, 1937, the United States ceased to be a republic of limited constitutional government. The Supreme Court upheld the Wagner Labor Relations Act. No longer would the enumerated powers of the Constitution apply....now we would be a European model welfare state, in which the national legislature has power to regulate industry, agriculture, and virtually all the activities of the citizens. The coda came when the court upheld the Social Security Act on May 24, 1937, and, then, the compulsory marketing quotas of the new AAA, on April 17, 1936. Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution,' p. 68-69




4. Totalitarian government usurps private ownership through regulation.

"Costs and Burden of Federal Regulations Reach $1.9 Trillion"
Costs and Burden of Federal Regulations Reach $1.9 Trillion

a. Bureaucrats get rich via regulation, as business must bribe.....lobby....to relieve the burden of onerous regulation....hence, ObamaCare.
 
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The strategy is simply enough: get Liberals out of it.



1. The touchy-feely self-esteem that Liberals have instituted in place of passing and failing has doomed learning in this country. Just look at the scores our children achieve in international competition.

a. “A 1989 study of mathematical skills compared students in eight different countries. American students ranked lowest in mathematical competence and Korean students ranked highest. But the researchers also asked students to rate how good they were at mathematics. The Americans ranked highest in self-judged mathematical ability, while the Koreans ranked lowest….There is no evidence that high self-esteem reliably causes anything.” http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/education/ed0001.html



2. In fact, feeling good is so central to Liberalism, that it is a higher value than truth. The Left has changed American school textbooks from books attempting to convey history to books attempting to make women and members of select minorities feel good about themselves. Democrat lawmakers pass laws demanding that textbooks be rewritten to include more Democrat Party blocs. California Gay Textbooks: Proposal Would Require LGBT Lessons In Schools | HuffPost

a. “'History should be honest,' Gov. Jerry Brown says in signing the state law, which had sparked hot debate among legislators.... making California the first state to require that school textbooks and history lessons include the contributions of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Americans.State laws: New state law requires textbooks to include gays' achievements




3. To see what we're up against, I commend an article in the current Brooklyn Daily,
"China syndrome: Whose kids get a better education?"
China syndrome: Whose kids get a better education?

"...Lenora Chu and her family arrived in Shanghai from the United States in 2010,...She spent the next seven years examining not just her young son’s education, but the whole Chinese educational system, comparing it with her own American upbringing and what’s happening in our schools today.

4. In China, education is .... a sorting mechanism — you advance to the next level of schooling based on a test score,” said Chu. The teachers are very strict from the get-go. One day, her preschooler came home from school with shiny red star stuck to his forehead.

“What do you get a red star for?” she asks in the book. “Do you get it if you run fast?”

Her son, Rainey, laughed He got it, of course, for sitting still. Chu was outraged. Her son was just three!


5. “Why do you sit? Do they make you sit at school? Do you have to sit?” Her husband, National Public Radio’s China correspondent Rob Schmitz, said is sounded as if she was asking, “Are your human rights being violated?”
But learning to sit still doesn’t violate any U.N. conventions.


6. And neither did what happened next. Rainey told his mom that four times that day he had found egg in his mouth — the food he detested most. How did it get there, Chu asked? The teacher put it in, because eggs are an important food. Three times he cried and spit it out. The fourth time, he swallowed.

And today he likes eggs."




During the civil rights movement, the by-word was 'keep your eye on the prize'....

We should remember that motto.
Become the solution. Become a teacher.


But I am.

You're in my classroom.

Not all students are ready to accept learning, the truth.
But I never expect to reach 100%...

Here's a little secret: look at the statistics under the 'Forum' and you'll find that 10 times as many read a thread as post in it.
My hope is that many of those readers notice that everything I post is linked, sourced and provides quotes that they can check.
....and I am never wrong.

The will see material that government schooling hides.


Sadly, I'll have to fail you.
Summer school.....again.
 
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It seems like this whole thread is attempting to compare American students to Chinese students with regards to math scores.

Why?
Did the OP know that the Chinese only test their top, college bound students while the U.S. tests everyone....including special ed?


First of all....I know everything.


I never suggested that we incorporate all of Chinese education....just the parts that would make out system competitive again....

China has 18 million newer children to be schooled every year.
They are willing to allow 7 million to drop out and take factory jobs so as to advance the 'common good.'

You, being a collectivist, should embrace that.

As an American and a capitalist, I see America as wanting to and being able to find a way to advance all of our students.....and not having to destroy education as the Liberals have.
 
Destroyed the education they have! It is very sad to see no history being taught. Not to Bully is taught instead. I am told that will change now that they are 3 months into the school year.

They also teach Wind and Solar power is clean and green and cheap, which is pure lies.

It is all leftist marxist politics.

They just asked my boys, What Gifts Does the Government Give You? Followed by, what gifts does the school give you.

They even argued with me when I stated at the parent teacher conference that our Rights are not gifts from the government!
 
Education has evolved, it has not declined



Remember the last time you posted something that was true?

Me neither.

Lets compare today's High School students to say....someone with a masters degree from Columbia University twenty years ago

Today's students must engage in original thought, must clearly define their ideas, must logically define their thought process

Someone who graduated Columbia University twenty years ago only needed to cut and paste the work of others without offering original thoughts or conclusions

Today's student is obviously superior

And a huge number of youth with HS diplomas can't read at the 5th grade level and their math skills are even worse.
Do the Chinese push 100% of their students thru college prep classes?


No.

They are perfectly fine with letting millions fall by the wayside.


It is one iteration of totalitarian government....

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

So is Liberalism.
 
We need to keep the religious goobers away from our public education.



This nation was founded by and for religious folks....and it was so until you Fascists came on board.

Now that you are aware of the above.....

....can I count on you leaving?
No it wasn't....it was founded by smart men who saw what happens with the Puritans when the religious kooks take over...and they made it very clear that that was not to happen with our new country.


You're not very educated, are you.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian.

“52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html
 
Destroyed the education they have! It is very sad to see no history being taught. Not to Bully is taught instead. I am told that will change now that they are 3 months into the school year.

They also teach Wind and Solar power is clean and green and cheap, which is pure lies.

It is all leftist marxist politics.

They just asked my boys, What Gifts Does the Government Give You? Followed by, what gifts does the school give you.

They even argued with me when I stated at the parent teacher conference that our Rights are not gifts from the government!


Don't ever stop.
 
May I hep you sir


Sure, you may clarify.
We need to keep the religious goobers away from our public education.



This nation was founded by and for religious folks....and it was so until you Fascists came on board.

Now that you are aware of the above.....

....can I count on you leaving?
No it wasn't....it was founded by smart men who saw what happens with the Puritans when the religious kooks take over...and they made it very clear that that was not to happen with our new country.


You're not very educated, are you.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian.

“52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

They were not orthodox Christians. They may of got baptized as such, back then every Christian got baptized as such, but they were not all and few of them were as adults.
 
It seems like this whole thread is attempting to compare American students to Chinese students with regards to math scores.

Why?
Did the OP know that the Chinese only test their top, college bound students while the U.S. tests everyone....including special ed?


First of all....I know everything.


I never suggested that we incorporate all of Chinese education....just the parts that would make out system competitive again....

China has 18 million newer children to be schooled every year.
They are willing to allow 7 million to drop out and take factory jobs so as to advance the 'common good.'

You, being a collectivist, should embrace that.

As an American and a capitalist, I see America as wanting to and being able to find a way to advance all of our students.....and not having to destroy education as the Liberals have.
Growing Numbers Of Chinese Teens Are Coming To America For High School
 
Sure, you may clarify.
We need to keep the religious goobers away from our public education.



This nation was founded by and for religious folks....and it was so until you Fascists came on board.

Now that you are aware of the above.....

....can I count on you leaving?
No it wasn't....it was founded by smart men who saw what happens with the Puritans when the religious kooks take over...and they made it very clear that that was not to happen with our new country.


You're not very educated, are you.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian.

“52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

They were not orthodox Christians. They may of got baptized as such, back then every Christian got baptized as such, but they were not all and few of them were as adults.


You can't beat something with nothing.
And you provided nothing but hot air.

And....as you are one of our best sources of Greenhouse Gases.....I'm gonna go with David Limbaugh...


1. The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

Believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known today, “an extremist Fundementalist hate group.”



2. "The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were... the general principles of Christianity. ...I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God." - Letter to Thomas Jefferson, June 28, 1813

John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, June 28th, 1813, from Quincy. The Adams-Jefferson Letters: The
Complete Correspondence Between Thomas Jefferson and Abigail and John Adams, edited by Lester J. Cappon,
1988, the University of North Carolina Press, Chapel Hill, NC, pp. 338-340.


3. And....it explains why the Bible was used as the model for out Constitution.

The Constitution provides for an observance of the Sabbath in its Presentment Clause, mandating that the President has ten days, excluding Sundays, to veto a bill lest it become binding.

And the instrument was framed with a view to the Declaration, which unequivocally bestows gratitude on the God of the Bible for America's independence.



Kinda smashed a custard pie in your kisser, huh?
 
It seems like this whole thread is attempting to compare American students to Chinese students with regards to math scores.

Why?
Did the OP know that the Chinese only test their top, college bound students while the U.S. tests everyone....including special ed?


First of all....I know everything.


I never suggested that we incorporate all of Chinese education....just the parts that would make out system competitive again....

China has 18 million newer children to be schooled every year.
They are willing to allow 7 million to drop out and take factory jobs so as to advance the 'common good.'

You, being a collectivist, should embrace that.

As an American and a capitalist, I see America as wanting to and being able to find a way to advance all of our students.....and not having to destroy education as the Liberals have.
Growing Numbers Of Chinese Teens Are Coming To America For High School


And?
 
.... It is very sad to see no history being taught. Not to Bully is taught instead. ......
Not true.
Why would somebody reply with nothing more than a CONTRADICTION? Cause they are a jerk? Cause they are ignorant or dumb? Or they know they must lie to further the Socialist/Marxist propaganda. I doubt the latter, beings that somebody fighting for an ideology typically has a bit of intelligence. Either way, I can reference textbooks provided to my children who are in public school.

What can Unkontrary reference?

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abigail.jpg
 
.... It is very sad to see no history being taught. Not to Bully is taught instead. ......
Not true.
Why would somebody reply with nothing more than a CONTRADICTION? Cause they are a jerk? Cause they are ignorant or dumb? Or they know they must lie to further the Socialist/Marxist propaganda. I doubt the latter, beings that somebody fighting for an ideology typically has a bit of intelligence. Either way, I can reference textbooks provided to my children who are in public school.

What can Unkontrary reference?

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And? You SEE nothing there.


Anything there to ‘trigger’ you?
 
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The strategy is simply enough: get Liberals out of it.



1. The touchy-feely self-esteem that Liberals have instituted in place of passing and failing has doomed learning in this country. Just look at the scores our children achieve in international competition.

a. “A 1989 study of mathematical skills compared students in eight different countries. American students ranked lowest in mathematical competence and Korean students ranked highest. But the researchers also asked students to rate how good they were at mathematics. The Americans ranked highest in self-judged mathematical ability, while the Koreans ranked lowest….There is no evidence that high self-esteem reliably causes anything.” http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/education/ed0001.html



2. In fact, feeling good is so central to Liberalism, that it is a higher value than truth. The Left has changed American school textbooks from books attempting to convey history to books attempting to make women and members of select minorities feel good about themselves. Democrat lawmakers pass laws demanding that textbooks be rewritten to include more Democrat Party blocs. California Gay Textbooks: Proposal Would Require LGBT Lessons In Schools | HuffPost

a. “'History should be honest,' Gov. Jerry Brown says in signing the state law, which had sparked hot debate among legislators.... making California the first state to require that school textbooks and history lessons include the contributions of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Americans.State laws: New state law requires textbooks to include gays' achievements




3. To see what we're up against, I commend an article in the current Brooklyn Daily,
"China syndrome: Whose kids get a better education?"
China syndrome: Whose kids get a better education?

"...Lenora Chu and her family arrived in Shanghai from the United States in 2010,...She spent the next seven years examining not just her young son’s education, but the whole Chinese educational system, comparing it with her own American upbringing and what’s happening in our schools today.

4. In China, education is .... a sorting mechanism — you advance to the next level of schooling based on a test score,” said Chu. The teachers are very strict from the get-go. One day, her preschooler came home from school with shiny red star stuck to his forehead.

“What do you get a red star for?” she asks in the book. “Do you get it if you run fast?”

Her son, Rainey, laughed He got it, of course, for sitting still. Chu was outraged. Her son was just three!


5. “Why do you sit? Do they make you sit at school? Do you have to sit?” Her husband, National Public Radio’s China correspondent Rob Schmitz, said is sounded as if she was asking, “Are your human rights being violated?”
But learning to sit still doesn’t violate any U.N. conventions.


6. And neither did what happened next. Rainey told his mom that four times that day he had found egg in his mouth — the food he detested most. How did it get there, Chu asked? The teacher put it in, because eggs are an important food. Three times he cried and spit it out. The fourth time, he swallowed.

And today he likes eggs."




During the civil rights movement, the by-word was 'keep your eye on the prize'....

We should remember that motto.
Become the solution. Become a teacher.


But I am.

You're in my classroom.

Not all students are ready to accept learning, the truth.
But I never expect to reach 100%...

Here's a little secret: look at the statistics under the 'Forum' and you'll find that 10 times as many read a thread as post in it.
My hope is that many of those readers notice that everything I post is linked, sourced and provides quotes that they can check.
....and I am never wrong.

The will see material that government schooling hides.


Sadly, I'll have to fail you.
Summer school.....again.
Nope, get your teaching credential...get into the classroom....be the change. Or.......just hide behind your keyboard and cut and paste and cut and paste and cut and paste all the time like you've been doing.
 
Sure, you may clarify.
We need to keep the religious goobers away from our public education.



This nation was founded by and for religious folks....and it was so until you Fascists came on board.

Now that you are aware of the above.....

....can I count on you leaving?
No it wasn't....it was founded by smart men who saw what happens with the Puritans when the religious kooks take over...and they made it very clear that that was not to happen with our new country.


You're not very educated, are you.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian.

“52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

They were not orthodox Christians. They may of got baptized as such, back then every Christian got baptized as such, but they were not all and few of them were as adults.


YOU are going to pass judgment on what kind of Christians people were 240 years ago? :lol:
 

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