Longevity and Fasting

[beautress]

Just found this article on fasting at youtube, selected for me by my opening another page for a few minutes, and when I came back to youtube, this was playing. I'm intrigued. The claim is made that after a person fasts for 9 hours, during the next few hours the body begins healing itself, and even named the process. I may try this because I frequently have autoimmune issues and wondered if there is a solution outside conventional diets that would make some ailments subside. Anyone noticed an improved outlook and subsidence of issues after fasting for a couple of days?

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A lot of people do those apple cleanses where they only eat apples for a week or so.

I've always thought that all disease starts in the gut. Can't say that I'm correct, it's just what I've always thought. After all, we are what we eat.

I'm going to look that up, Natural Citizen, to see what the nutritional scientists have agreed with an apple cleanse, which had not come to my attention before your post.

Edit: I found it, Natural Citizen: the study came from China, but the US National Institute of Health agrees that it is correct. Hepatoprotective effect of apple polyphenols against concanavalin A-induced immunological liver injury in mice. - PubMed - NCBI

 

[harmonica]

seems illogical as the body needs food

Well since there's logic behind it, that's not much of a problem.

logic behind what?
..if humans don't eat or drink = death

Uh, when we reference fasting - - we don't mean "forever." I think everyone mighta intuited that before you posted, but thanks for the opportunity to clarify lol!

..there is nothing in my posts to suggest forever--JESUS F CHRIST

Are you really this deep in need of arguing about something?

Let me be really clear:

You said that fasting seems illogical because without food or water, you will die.

That's IRRELEVANT to fasting, because there's a point where we..YANNOW... stop the fast. So0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o, your comment was irrelevant, and now you're jesus fucking christing ME?

lol this messageboard is THE BEST

my original post:

seems illogical as the body needs food

so, it's logical to not eat, even though the body will die/have problems if humans don't eat??!!
hahahahah
so logical----hahhahahahahaha
YOU are the jackass that started the uncivil crap

 

[G.T.]

Well since there's logic behind it, that's not much of a problem.

logic behind what?
..if humans don't eat or drink = death

Uh, when we reference fasting - - we don't mean "forever." I think everyone mighta intuited that before you posted, but thanks for the opportunity to clarify lol!

..there is nothing in my posts to suggest forever--JESUS F CHRIST

Are you really this deep in need of arguing about something?

Let me be really clear:

You said that fasting seems illogical because without food or water, you will die.

That's IRRELEVANT to fasting, because there's a point where we..YANNOW... stop the fast. So0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o, your comment was irrelevant, and now you're jesus fucking christing ME?

lol this messageboard is THE BEST

my original post:

seems illogical as the body needs food

so, it's logical to not eat, even though the body will die/have problems if humans don't eat??!!
hahahahah
so logical----hahhahahahahaha
YOU are the jackass that started the uncivil crap

You are in a thread about the health benefits that come from fasting.

You said it seems illogical, it doesn't - why would it be illogical I asked?

You said because without food and water we'd die.

I educated you...that fasting ENDS, yannow...like WAAAAAaaaAAaaaAAaaY before DEATH?

So your "logic" wasn't relevant to this discussion.

That's clear, that's civil and it also happens to be the truth. If you've got some odd-ass ax to grind about it, present your case.

 

[anynameyouwish]

logic behind what?
..if humans don't eat or drink = death

Uh, when we reference fasting - - we don't mean "forever." I think everyone mighta intuited that before you posted, but thanks for the opportunity to clarify lol!

..there is nothing in my posts to suggest forever--JESUS F CHRIST

Are you really this deep in need of arguing about something?

Let me be really clear:

You said that fasting seems illogical because without food or water, you will die.

That's IRRELEVANT to fasting, because there's a point where we..YANNOW... stop the fast. So0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o, your comment was irrelevant, and now you're jesus fucking christing ME?

lol this messageboard is THE BEST

my original post:

seems illogical as the body needs food

so, it's logical to not eat, even though the body will die/have problems if humans don't eat??!!
hahahahah
so logical----hahhahahahahaha
YOU are the jackass that started the uncivil crap

You are in a thread about the health benefits that come from fasting.

You said it seems illogical, it doesn't - why would it be illogical I asked?

You said because without food and water we'd die.

I educated you...that fasting ENDS, yannow...like WAAAAAaaaAAaaaAAaaY before DEATH?

So your "logic" wasn't relevant to this discussion.

That's clear, that's civil and it also happens to be the truth. If you've got some odd-ass ax to grind about it, present your case.

he's a conservative. he just likes to attack things, regardless of how irrational he is being.

 

[gipper]

Gandhi died at 78 and he fasted all the time.

My father in-law fasted all the time and lived healthy to 99.

 

[harmonica]

logic behind what?
..if humans don't eat or drink = death

Uh, when we reference fasting - - we don't mean "forever." I think everyone mighta intuited that before you posted, but thanks for the opportunity to clarify lol!

..there is nothing in my posts to suggest forever--JESUS F CHRIST

Are you really this deep in need of arguing about something?

Let me be really clear:

You said that fasting seems illogical because without food or water, you will die.

That's IRRELEVANT to fasting, because there's a point where we..YANNOW... stop the fast. So0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o, your comment was irrelevant, and now you're jesus fucking christing ME?

lol this messageboard is THE BEST

my original post:

seems illogical as the body needs food

so, it's logical to not eat, even though the body will die/have problems if humans don't eat??!!
hahahahah
so logical----hahhahahahahaha
YOU are the jackass that started the uncivil crap

You are in a thread about the health benefits that come from fasting.

You said it seems illogical, it doesn't - why would it be illogical I asked?

You said because without food and water we'd die.

I educated you...that fasting ENDS, yannow...like WAAAAAaaaAAaaaAAaaY before DEATH?

So your "logic" wasn't relevant to this discussion.

That's clear, that's civil and it also happens to be the truth. If you've got some odd-ass ax to grind about it, present your case.

we KNOW it's not fasting FOREVER--but you have to be a jerk and and mention it

 

[beautress]

Dieting is fine, and yes fasting is good for you, but neither are a magic bullet to get healthy.

For that you need to EXERCISE.

I'd love to, 007, if I ever get my bad knee fixed. Some days it doesn't hurt, but most days, it approaches unbearable pain.

 

[G.T.]

Uh, when we reference fasting - - we don't mean "forever." I think everyone mighta intuited that before you posted, but thanks for the opportunity to clarify lol!

..there is nothing in my posts to suggest forever--JESUS F CHRIST

Are you really this deep in need of arguing about something?

Let me be really clear:

You said that fasting seems illogical because without food or water, you will die.

That's IRRELEVANT to fasting, because there's a point where we..YANNOW... stop the fast. So0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o, your comment was irrelevant, and now you're jesus fucking christing ME?

lol this messageboard is THE BEST

my original post:

seems illogical as the body needs food

so, it's logical to not eat, even though the body will die/have problems if humans don't eat??!!
hahahahah
so logical----hahhahahahahaha
YOU are the jackass that started the uncivil crap

You are in a thread about the health benefits that come from fasting.

You said it seems illogical, it doesn't - why would it be illogical I asked?

You said because without food and water we'd die.

I educated you...that fasting ENDS, yannow...like WAAAAAaaaAAaaaAAaaY before DEATH?

So your "logic" wasn't relevant to this discussion.

That's clear, that's civil and it also happens to be the truth. If you've got some odd-ass ax to grind about it, present your case.

we KNOW it's not fasting FOREVER--but you have to be a jerk and and mention it

Your case for it being illogical was that "we die without food."

So, you said that KNOWING they re-begin eating food?

That makes it a dumb thing to say, I'm not sure there's even two ways about that man.

 

[harmonica]

Uh, when we reference fasting - - we don't mean "forever." I think everyone mighta intuited that before you posted, but thanks for the opportunity to clarify lol!

..there is nothing in my posts to suggest forever--JESUS F CHRIST

Are you really this deep in need of arguing about something?

Let me be really clear:

You said that fasting seems illogical because without food or water, you will die.

That's IRRELEVANT to fasting, because there's a point where we..YANNOW... stop the fast. So0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o, your comment was irrelevant, and now you're jesus fucking christing ME?

lol this messageboard is THE BEST

my original post:

seems illogical as the body needs food

so, it's logical to not eat, even though the body will die/have problems if humans don't eat??!!
hahahahah
so logical----hahhahahahahaha
YOU are the jackass that started the uncivil crap

You are in a thread about the health benefits that come from fasting.

You said it seems illogical, it doesn't - why would it be illogical I asked?

You said because without food and water we'd die.

I educated you...that fasting ENDS, yannow...like WAAAAAaaaAAaaaAAaaY before DEATH?

So your "logic" wasn't relevant to this discussion.

That's clear, that's civil and it also happens to be the truth. If you've got some odd-ass ax to grind about it, present your case.

he's a conservative. he just likes to attack things, regardless of how irrational he is being.

hahahhahahah
NO--I'm not conservative --I am American and believe in common sense policies
such as:
--criminals are bad guys--not good
--illegal means just that = illegal/wrong/unlawful--NOT poor angels who just want to love you
etc

 

[harmonica]

..there is nothing in my posts to suggest forever--JESUS F CHRIST

Are you really this deep in need of arguing about something?

Let me be really clear:

You said that fasting seems illogical because without food or water, you will die.

That's IRRELEVANT to fasting, because there's a point where we..YANNOW... stop the fast. So0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o, your comment was irrelevant, and now you're jesus fucking christing ME?

lol this messageboard is THE BEST

my original post:

seems illogical as the body needs food

so, it's logical to not eat, even though the body will die/have problems if humans don't eat??!!
hahahahah
so logical----hahhahahahahaha
YOU are the jackass that started the uncivil crap

You are in a thread about the health benefits that come from fasting.

You said it seems illogical, it doesn't - why would it be illogical I asked?

You said because without food and water we'd die.

I educated you...that fasting ENDS, yannow...like WAAAAAaaaAAaaaAAaaY before DEATH?

So your "logic" wasn't relevant to this discussion.

That's clear, that's civil and it also happens to be the truth. If you've got some odd-ass ax to grind about it, present your case.

we KNOW it's not fasting FOREVER--but you have to be a jerk and and mention it

Your case for it being illogical was that "we die without food."

So, you said that KNOWING they re-begin eating food?

That makes it a dumb thing to say, I'm not sure there's even two ways about that man.

plain and simple like I stated---the body needs food
.....OF COURSE we all know fasting does not mean forever--but you mention it--for some reason....

 

[gipper]

logic behind what?
..if humans don't eat or drink = death

Uh, when we reference fasting - - we don't mean "forever." I think everyone mighta intuited that before you posted, but thanks for the opportunity to clarify lol!

..there is nothing in my posts to suggest forever--JESUS F CHRIST

Are you really this deep in need of arguing about something?

Let me be really clear:

You said that fasting seems illogical because without food or water, you will die.

That's IRRELEVANT to fasting, because there's a point where we..YANNOW... stop the fast. So0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o, your comment was irrelevant, and now you're jesus fucking christing ME?

lol this messageboard is THE BEST

my original post:

seems illogical as the body needs food

so, it's logical to not eat, even though the body will die/have problems if humans don't eat??!!
hahahahah
so logical----hahhahahahahaha
YOU are the jackass that started the uncivil crap

You are in a thread about the health benefits that come from fasting.

You said it seems illogical, it doesn't - why would it be illogical I asked?

You said because without food and water we'd die.

I educated you...that fasting ENDS, yannow...like WAAAAAaaaAAaaaAAaaY before DEATH?

So your "logic" wasn't relevant to this discussion.

That's clear, that's civil and it also happens to be the truth. If you've got some odd-ass ax to grind about it, present your case.

Many people don’t understand fasting and are incapable of wrapping their brains around it. It is an alien concept to them.

I fast regularly for the many health benefits. When the body doesn’t have to digest food, it repairs itself.

I have fasted for several days. It is remarkable how great you feel after about 48 hours.

 

[beautress]

Gandhi died at 78 and he fasted all the time.

He didnt live in a vacuum, thats why anecdotes arent always useful.

He also didnt eat a healthy diet.

I know some of you guys just got here, but I looked up Ghandi's death, and it turns out he was assassinated with 3 bullets.

 

[G.T.]

Are you really this deep in need of arguing about something?

Let me be really clear:

You said that fasting seems illogical because without food or water, you will die.

That's IRRELEVANT to fasting, because there's a point where we..YANNOW... stop the fast. So0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o, your comment was irrelevant, and now you're jesus fucking christing ME?

lol this messageboard is THE BEST

my original post:

seems illogical as the body needs food

so, it's logical to not eat, even though the body will die/have problems if humans don't eat??!!
hahahahah
so logical----hahhahahahahaha
YOU are the jackass that started the uncivil crap

You are in a thread about the health benefits that come from fasting.

You said it seems illogical, it doesn't - why would it be illogical I asked?

You said because without food and water we'd die.

I educated you...that fasting ENDS, yannow...like WAAAAAaaaAAaaaAAaaY before DEATH?

So your "logic" wasn't relevant to this discussion.

That's clear, that's civil and it also happens to be the truth. If you've got some odd-ass ax to grind about it, present your case.

we KNOW it's not fasting FOREVER--but you have to be a jerk and and mention it

Your case for it being illogical was that "we die without food."

So, you said that KNOWING they re-begin eating food?

That makes it a dumb thing to say, I'm not sure there's even two ways about that man.

plain and simple like I stated---the body needs food
.....OF COURSE we all know fasting does not mean forever--but you mention it--for some reason....

You said that fasting was illogical. You're responsible for that neener-neener comment, not anybody else.

It's logical.

& The logic that defeats your point: You don't die from fasting, you eat food at the end of it.

News at 11, your comment was dumb.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Gandhi died at 78 and he fasted all the time.

Of course//being shot didn't help his longevity either..ROTFLMAO!

 

[G.T.]

Uh, when we reference fasting - - we don't mean "forever." I think everyone mighta intuited that before you posted, but thanks for the opportunity to clarify lol!

..there is nothing in my posts to suggest forever--JESUS F CHRIST

Are you really this deep in need of arguing about something?

Let me be really clear:

You said that fasting seems illogical because without food or water, you will die.

That's IRRELEVANT to fasting, because there's a point where we..YANNOW... stop the fast. So0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o, your comment was irrelevant, and now you're jesus fucking christing ME?

lol this messageboard is THE BEST

my original post:

seems illogical as the body needs food

so, it's logical to not eat, even though the body will die/have problems if humans don't eat??!!
hahahahah
so logical----hahhahahahahaha
YOU are the jackass that started the uncivil crap

You are in a thread about the health benefits that come from fasting.

You said it seems illogical, it doesn't - why would it be illogical I asked?

You said because without food and water we'd die.

I educated you...that fasting ENDS, yannow...like WAAAAAaaaAAaaaAAaaY before DEATH?

So your "logic" wasn't relevant to this discussion.

That's clear, that's civil and it also happens to be the truth. If you've got some odd-ass ax to grind about it, present your case.

Many people don’t understand fasting and are incapable of wrapping their brains around it. It is an alien concept to them.

I fast regularly for the many health benefits. When the body doesn’t have to digest food, it repairs itself.

I have fasted for several days. It is remarkable how great you feel after about 48 hours.

biohacking your body computer is 100% fascinating to any science nerd like me

you can even hack the hack. when the lack of salt makes you a little light-headed, you ingest salt (doesnt break a fast) and 20 minutes later it's gone <3

 

[harmonica]

my original post:
so, it's logical to not eat, even though the body will die/have problems if humans don't eat??!!
hahahahah
so logical----hahhahahahahaha
YOU are the jackass that started the uncivil crap

You are in a thread about the health benefits that come from fasting.

You said it seems illogical, it doesn't - why would it be illogical I asked?

You said because without food and water we'd die.

I educated you...that fasting ENDS, yannow...like WAAAAAaaaAAaaaAAaaY before DEATH?

So your "logic" wasn't relevant to this discussion.

That's clear, that's civil and it also happens to be the truth. If you've got some odd-ass ax to grind about it, present your case.

we KNOW it's not fasting FOREVER--but you have to be a jerk and and mention it

Your case for it being illogical was that "we die without food."

So, you said that KNOWING they re-begin eating food?

That makes it a dumb thing to say, I'm not sure there's even two ways about that man.

plain and simple like I stated---the body needs food
.....OF COURSE we all know fasting does not mean forever--but you mention it--for some reason....

You said that fasting was illogical. You're responsible for that neener-neener comment, not anybody else.

It's logical.

& The logic that defeats your point: You don't die from fasting, you eat food at the end of it.

News at 11, your comment was dumb.

---THERE IT IS.. why do you have to resort to being a jerk?? why can't you discuss civilly and politely ???!!
....no one said you die from fasting--YOU just proved yourself wrong!! hahahhahah
...
fast
2
[ fast, fahst ]
SEE SYNONYMS FOR fast ON THESAURUS.COM
verb (used without object)
to abstain from all food.
to eat only sparingly or of certain kinds of food, especially as a religious observance.

 

[beautress]

seems illogical as the body needs food

Harmonica, thanks for posting here. The one case mentioned here several times was of a man who weighed well over 400 pounds and close to 500 pounds when he went on his fast in which water and vitamins were his only sustenance for 380 days. He ridded himself of several annoying health issues, and when he was done losing all that weight, he had zero ill effects.

 

[G.T.]

You are in a thread about the health benefits that come from fasting.

You said it seems illogical, it doesn't - why would it be illogical I asked?

You said because without food and water we'd die.

I educated you...that fasting ENDS, yannow...like WAAAAAaaaAAaaaAAaaY before DEATH?

So your "logic" wasn't relevant to this discussion.

That's clear, that's civil and it also happens to be the truth. If you've got some odd-ass ax to grind about it, present your case.

we KNOW it's not fasting FOREVER--but you have to be a jerk and and mention it

Your case for it being illogical was that "we die without food."

So, you said that KNOWING they re-begin eating food?

That makes it a dumb thing to say, I'm not sure there's even two ways about that man.

plain and simple like I stated---the body needs food
.....OF COURSE we all know fasting does not mean forever--but you mention it--for some reason....

You said that fasting was illogical. You're responsible for that neener-neener comment, not anybody else.

It's logical.

& The logic that defeats your point: You don't die from fasting, you eat food at the end of it.

News at 11, your comment was dumb.

---THERE IT IS.. why do you have to resort to being a jerk?? why can't you discuss civilly and politely ???!!
....no one said you die from fasting--YOU just proved yourself wrong!! hahahhahah
...
fast
2
[ fast, fahst ]
SEE SYNONYMS FOR fast ON THESAURUS.COM
verb (used without object)
to abstain from all food.
to eat only sparingly or of certain kinds of food, especially as a religious observance.

DEATH was YOUR ARGUMENT for why you said FASTING was illogical. Did you forget already? How old are you...maybe you need a fast for better cognitive clarity

 

[Natural Citizen]

I'm going to look that up, Natural Citizen, to see what the nutritional scientists have agreed with an apple cleanse, which had not come to my attention before your post.

Edit: I found it, Natural Citizen: the study came from China, but the US National Institute of Health agrees that it is correct. Hepatoprotective effect of apple polyphenols against concanavalin A-induced immunological liver injury in mice. - PubMed - NCBI

Only reason I know about it is because the women on a forum I used to be on years ago used to do them all the time. They had a running thread on it. As I recall, they all had positive results. Apparently, the apple fasting cleanse detoxifies your body/organs. There's a lot about it online. Lots of people do it.

 

[beautress]

Uh, when we reference fasting - - we don't mean "forever." I think everyone mighta intuited that before you posted, but thanks for the opportunity to clarify lol!

..there is nothing in my posts to suggest forever--JESUS F CHRIST

Are you really this deep in need of arguing about something?

Let me be really clear:

You said that fasting seems illogical because without food or water, you will die.

That's IRRELEVANT to fasting, because there's a point where we..YANNOW... stop the fast. So0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o, your comment was irrelevant, and now you're jesus fucking christing ME?

lol this messageboard is THE BEST

my original post:

seems illogical as the body needs food

so, it's logical to not eat, even though the body will die/have problems if humans don't eat??!!
hahahahah
so logical----hahhahahahahaha
YOU are the jackass that started the uncivil crap

You are in a thread about the health benefits that come from fasting.

You said it seems illogical, it doesn't - why would it be illogical I asked?

You said because without food and water we'd die.

I educated you...that fasting ENDS, yannow...like WAAAAAaaaAAaaaAAaaY before DEATH?

So your "logic" wasn't relevant to this discussion.

That's clear, that's civil and it also happens to be the truth. If you've got some odd-ass ax to grind about it, present your case.

Many people don’t understand fasting and are incapable of wrapping their brains around it. It is an alien concept to them.

I fast regularly for the many health benefits. When the body doesn’t have to digest food, it repairs itself.

I have fasted for several days. It is remarkable how great you feel after about 48 hours.

That is such upper news, Gipper. Thanks for your inspiration, which I greatly need right now, when I'm trying hard to bringing my time of mourning my husband's and also my best friend's death due to dementia 3.5 years ago. I'm over the stupid stages of anger at the situation he endured for likely 10 years before he passed away after his symptoms got unbearable. He never, ever expressed his anger, but he did a lot of things normal folks do not do. It was so forgivable, because the better part of our 44 years together, he was a superstar of community service, fatherhood, and perfect husband who spoiled me good. His sense of humor approached that of a Bob Hope, yet he was a gifted mathematician and Professional Engineer who never lost arguments because he didn't get into one without being 100% prepared to win any given topic. For 44 years I never won an argument with this idyllic man, but he always made it fun with a passel of jokes that made me and everyone else laugh. *sigh* I still laugh at some of the jokes he told. He knew exactly when the clowning stuff would lighten any given situation, personal or professional. I've never met anyone like him before, during, or after his life ended on such a sad note.

Again thanks for sharing your good news about feeling better with fasting.