Life as a poor American is a life of slavery

WOW....If your not part of the solution you are part of the problem. You obviously are not only part of the problem but are actively working to make it worse. You won't be happy until the people of this country tear it apart. Are you even American? What happened to the betterment of the country? Can you explain how keeping a large portion of the country in poverty is beneficial? The poor are not going away any time soon, you probably have "The final solution" don't you?
You are an emotional little thing, aren't you?

you get emotional response from a video screen?
Claiming someone wants a "final solution" for the poor is not a calm, clear, logical response.
 
Perhaps we all need clarification.

Do conservatives consider criminals the "poor"?

I consider criminals exactly what they are criminals. Those committing welfare fraud are criminals just like those that run Pozi schemes, also ,medicade and medicare fraud are committed by criminals as well.
What Conservative ever said that the poor were criminals? That's right...NONE. You operate from a false premise.
 
There has been a lot of talk in this country for years about the erosion of the middle class, however when I look at the income distribution in this country today I see that the income of the upper 50% of citizens is 87.3% of all the money earned in the country, and the income of the lower 50% is only 12.7%. There is in fact no middle class in America today; there is only us and them.

There are those who call this country is the land of opportunity, but as I live and breathe today I know without a doubt that this is a lie, it may have been true in the year 1900, but not having lived then I cannot say if it was just as much a lie in those days. The reality is there’s a glass ceiling in this nation at the 50% mark, if one is born above that line, one can have any opportunity under the sun and go as far as ones individual capabilities allow, but if one is born below that line ones only purpose in living so far as American society is concerned, is to work. And furthermore to work always for the benefit and profit of someone born above that 50% line.

Want your kids to go to college? Better be prepared to pay. Contrary to what the upper-class would have you believe federal student aid is of little use, the maximum a person of the lower class may receive is just over 30,000. This may sound like a significant amount to some, however in reality it will not even pay for an education at a state level university, to say nothing of the ivy league. Think your kids smart enough to earn a scholarship? Keep dreaming, the vast majority of scholarships offered are given to children from families who are already above that 50% line. Said scholarships are just given out as free benefits to coax kids with “the right breeding” in, or in some cases to help schools meet their minimum standards under affirmative action. Said scholarships will never go to a child from the lower 50% simply because of the kids own intellect. And as for that federal student aid money you can get, it will just about pay for community college, a degree that will get one nothing except a low level office job at best.

So in what other ways might the lower 50% “pull themselves up by the bootstraps” as republicans like to claim they should?

Want to be a movie star? Better be prepared to pay. The only way to get ones foot “in the door” of Hollywood is to pay an agent, an incredible expense that a performer just entering the field can’t hope to pay unless they are already members of the upper class, already born to that upper 50%. Without an agent, you won’t get laughed out of every studio in town, because you’ll never set foot in one.

Want to write a great movie? Same thing, better get an agent, and don’t think you can afford one unless you make over 100 grand a year already. Without an agent you will never sell a script in Hollywood, but take it from me, if your movies good enough you will darn well get it plagiarized in Hollywood, in fact you can get that in no time flat.

Want to write the great American novel? Better pay out the nose for an agent because without one no legitimate publisher in the country will look at your manuscript, unless it’s to allow an established writer from the upper 50% plagiarize you. Think you’re going to self-publish it? Dream on. The volume of material available for sale on amazon, kindle, and similar sites and services dictates that unless you pay out the nose for advertising, you will have zero sales.

Want to start any kind of business? Go give it a shot. While we have all heard the “success stories”, the reality is that such a small percentage of such ventures succeed as to make the real number of success’s insignificant. Of course good luck getting backing from the banks. The reality is if your born to the upper 50% like that idiot James O’Keefe, the banks will extend you a 50,000 dollar line of credit at the drop of a hat no matter how stupid your business model is, just like it did for him. But if you’re born to the lower 50%, good luck with the banks, No matter how good your business model is! Unlike the studios you will get the chance to be laughed out of every bank in town.

In the end it’s all a lie. If you’re born to the lower class, your sole purpose in this society is to work your ass off for the benefit of the upper class. Frankly I’m at the point where I would love nothing more than for a REAL class war to break out, because as far as I’m concerned that upper 50% can just kiss my fucking ass.

I hate simple mindedness when it comes from the right. I also hate it when it comes from the left. While you make a few points, things are much more complex than this. Yes, the working poor and non-working poor have many more obstacles in their way to finding success. And yes, there is more that we could do to help those lower income earners to improve their position in life. However, there still is something to be said for people being responsible for their own condition.

While those on the right will never admit to these obstacles, you seem to think that we should and, more importantly, can make it as easy as possible for the poor to achieve whatever they want overnight without even beginning to consider that many of these people choose to be where they are. Yes, there are some people who really just don't want to better themselves, and we know this to be a fact because they never even try. When it comes to these people, I really don't care much about them. However for those who want and are willing to put forth the effort, I do think we could find more ways to ease the obstacles that do hold many people back.
 
Perhaps we all need clarification.

Do conservatives consider criminals the "poor"?

I consider criminals exactly what they are criminals. Those committing welfare fraud are criminals just like those that run Pozi schemes, also ,medicade and medicare fraud are committed by criminals as well.
What Conservative ever said that the poor were criminals? That's right...NONE. You operate from a false premise.

ba1614 in post number #94 of this thread. He described criminal fraud and then assigned it to the poor. Criminals are criminals.
 
There has been a lot of talk in this country for years about the erosion of the middle class, however when I look at the income distribution in this country today I see that the income of the upper 50% of citizens is 87.3% of all the money earned in the country, and the income of the lower 50% is only 12.7%. There is in fact no middle class in America today; there is only us and them.

There are those who call this country is the land of opportunity, but as I live and breathe today I know without a doubt that this is a lie, it may have been true in the year 1900, but not having lived then I cannot say if it was just as much a lie in those days. The reality is there’s a glass ceiling in this nation at the 50% mark, if one is born above that line, one can have any opportunity under the sun and go as far as ones individual capabilities allow, but if one is born below that line ones only purpose in living so far as American society is concerned, is to work. And furthermore to work always for the benefit and profit of someone born above that 50% line.

Want your kids to go to college? Better be prepared to pay. Contrary to what the upper-class would have you believe federal student aid is of little use, the maximum a person of the lower class may receive is just over 30,000. This may sound like a significant amount to some, however in reality it will not even pay for an education at a state level university, to say nothing of the ivy league. Think your kids smart enough to earn a scholarship? Keep dreaming, the vast majority of scholarships offered are given to children from families who are already above that 50% line. Said scholarships are just given out as free benefits to coax kids with “the right breeding” in, or in some cases to help schools meet their minimum standards under affirmative action. Said scholarships will never go to a child from the lower 50% simply because of the kids own intellect. And as for that federal student aid money you can get, it will just about pay for community college, a degree that will get one nothing except a low level office job at best.

So in what other ways might the lower 50% “pull themselves up by the bootstraps” as republicans like to claim they should?
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Want to start any kind of business? Go give it a shot. While we have all heard the “success stories”, the reality is that such a small percentage of such ventures succeed as to make the real number of success’s insignificant. Of course good luck getting backing from the banks. The reality is if your born to the upper 50% like that idiot James O’Keefe, the banks will extend you a 50,000 dollar line of credit at the drop of a hat no matter how stupid your business model is, just like it did for him. But if you’re born to the lower 50%, good luck with the banks, No matter how good your business model is! Unlike the studios you will get the chance to be laughed out of every bank in town.

In the end it’s all a lie. If you’re born to the lower class, your sole purpose in this society is to work your ass off for the benefit of the upper class. Frankly I’m at the point where I would love nothing more than for a REAL class war to break out, because as far as I’m concerned that upper 50% can just kiss my fucking ass.

What is this OP... a farce? If not a farce you are, with all due respect, full of crap. My own case is a good example of that. I was born into a family which could not be called middle class. Except for managing to own our own home, we fit none of the parameters of the middle class. Neither of my parents went beyond the eighth grade. They raised 6 children during the depression, and all but one of us kids graduated from high school, and none went to college. I was the exception; by being the one who did NOT graduate high school, only getting a GED while in the military.

Getting a job straight out of the USMC in 1964 I declined drawing any unemployment compensation and went seventy miles outside my hometown to find and take a job as a junior engineer for $500 a month. Within seven months I was able to, without benefit of a co-signer, buy a half acre parcel on contract and use it along with sweat-equity to then build a brand new home for my fiancé and myself before we were married. It was ready to move into on our wedding day in August, 1965, one year and two weeks after I was discharged from the Marine Corps. Meanwhile I had moved back to the hometown to take a manufacturing job 36 miles from home base at $100 more a month.

We were able, on our very small combined salaries (added together they were about $900 a month) to make advanced payments, as a method of savings, and sell it in four years and build another home four times the value, using the equity from the first one to leverage the construction and mortgage loans. Three years later we repeated that, doubling the value of our second home with our third new one in a row. Meanwhile, I had been helping people build their new homes, using a hammer the first time when I added a carport on my first one back in '66. By '72, in partnership with my brother, we built his new house, and then got a job to build another one for one of the guys in my engineering office. (In 1969 I had left the manufacturing job, applying to Westinghouse Electric Corporation as a junior industrial engineer) Then, together, we found a four acre tract for sale by an old land-baron in the area, who liked to sell on contract – if the contract defaulted he would give the defaulter all the principle back, but take the land back too for resale to another buyer - and we developed that into 7 residential lots on which we built houses for the next couple of years.

In the meantime I left my engineering job, now recognized as a full engineer, to build homes and develop land into residential subdivisions separate from my brother. My next project was a ninety acre tract I developed into 30 estate sized lots suitable for luxury homes. During that time I had a half million dollar line of credit, and to get my business a new comer bank in our city (Chase) offered to and gave me a line of credit for $50K, based solely on my financial statement and my signature. This was pre-Fannie and Freddie, in the days of the 80% loan to principle ratio, and for spec homes and land development it was 60% loan to principle ratio.

At that time my financial statement showed a net worth of about a half million (assets minus liabilities) but that included my rolling stock, so I expected it would be drawn down as the stock (lots and spec houses) sold off. When my last lot sold, the money from that and my home, and another twenty lots in partnership with my brother were about all we had, amounting to usold inventory, but I bought more land sans partner and started the process again. This time, once the value was established, I liquidated my lots and raw land so as to retire with a large part of my net worth in the bank instead of being drawn down as regular income.

My older brother (unlike me he was a high school graduate) followed about the same path ( after leaving a failed masonry business in Chicago in 1969) but after a few years of seeing how the net worth was spent down he decided he could accrue wealth better by building and renting the units and retaining ownership of them; all duplexes. He is today a multiple-millionaire and has, after selling the first few hundred units of as condominiums a few at time, bought, loan free, another three-quarter-million dollars of rental housing in separate (individual) older homes scattered in the two county area.

My own son, like I didn't go to college, probably because, (again like me) he wasn't college material. But today he has a solid HVAC business, and his daughter did get a scholarship to I.U. under the guidance of her high school admin.

I don't want to write a novel; I couldn't. I don't want to be a famous actor, I proved I didn't have talent for acting when I forgot my lines my first time on stage in the Christmas play while in the third grade. As for an inheritance, we six kids each got six thousand from the sale of our parent’s home in 1973 when they both passed away.

I would say that at the time I built up my own family's wealth, that I know of six or seven more of my peers who did about the same thing; some better, some not as well. But the main difference between them and me is that I didn't even graduate from high school, leaving highschool in the middle of my senior year. That has to prove something about opportunities in America even if it is only anecdotal.

Coming out of the depression my daddy had a more constructive view of banks and lending. He was loaned $500 by his sister to build a home for his family, which he later sold and bought more real estate on land contract, and atwhen I was 14 he introduced me to financing through local merchants to buy the things I wanted but didn’t have enough of my own funds for ready purchase. There is utility in borrowing money one doesn’t have if it can put it to use earning a return on investment. I have, and always have had the top credit rating. I accomplished what I did by never giving up, and working as many hours as it took to get the job done, even though at times I felt that I couldn’t make it – like in the bad years of '79 and '80.

While you have a interesting story it is a typical description of the world we live in. People under 30 have a very different reality then people over 30. Most doors of opportunity are now closed, or are clearly closing fast.

To succeed in the way I described people have to apply themselves as young as possible. Today, our "children" are not full adults until they are 40 if then, particularly our young men. That's a problem. They are too involved in foolishness, like for instance, posting on forums like this one, or "game boy" toys (and the like), transient pleasures, instead of applying themselves to improving their employment and financial situation as their highest priority.

They too readily believe the depressing myths that are being fostered here on this forum, and quoted at the top of this posting. The way today's young men spend their leisure time decides their financial future to a very large extent. I absolutely still do today see serious young men repeating my own story; their futures seem unlimited, or at least limited only by their imaginations, and their will to accomplish their goals as they are able to envision them in that imagination. If one's imagination is stultified into accepting that the American dream is dead, then for those folks IT IS DEAD; dead in the cradle.

People make other mistakes, like marrying too young, indulging themselves in personal weaknesses like using drugs and alcohol, or hanging with the wrong people, and for many failing to get even a high school degree.

Anyone with a modicum of physical skills, even without a high school diploma, can do it if they fully apply themselves, say by learning a trade from a local contractor, and in the process they can see for themselves the potential in using a bank's money to leverage their goals, almost to the 30-to-1 ratio we so often hear condemned as only being possible to Wall Street rip off artists. I was able to leverage $-1K into $-500K in just 10 years ('65 to '75) with very low earnings but with an ability to see opportunities and going for them.

And some, even though they apply themselves, intellectual and social-skill limitations will hold them back to stations of mediocrity. But in America even the ordinary life is full of pleasures, depending on how self destructive a person is, one manifestation of which is thinking negatively. If anything, I’m more surprised by the number of seemingly very mediocre people who do very well over their lifetimes, and amass relatively great wealth.

Better than complaining about the lack of opportunities and declaiming the deck being stacked against a person, I’d recommend looking for a field in which there are opportunities for the gifted in imagination, and then “go for it” with all the enthusiasm you have, always remembering the maxim: “never kick a horse turd; it may become your immediate superior”
 
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Perhaps we all need clarification.

Do conservatives consider criminals the "poor"?

I consider criminals exactly what they are criminals. Those committing welfare fraud are criminals just like those that run Pozi schemes, also ,medicade and medicare fraud are committed by criminals as well.
What Conservative ever said that the poor were criminals? That's right...NONE. You operate from a false premise.

ba1614 in post number #94 of this thread. He described criminal fraud and then assigned it to the poor. Criminals are criminals.

You fucking idiot, put your head back in the sand
 
What really bothers me about America today, is how inaccessible a good college education is to kids from really poor families. Yes, there are scholarships for the top 5%. You can get a student loan that puts in you hock the rest of life but it may only cover half your cost.

When I went to college back in the 60's, I had a $400/yr government scholastic that paid for my tuition to a state university. Anyone who graduated from high school with above average grades could get one. There was no college savings plan, because it wasn't needed. I earned enough working summers to pay for my dorm room. My parents paid for my meal ticket and some misc. expenses. I just saw where our state university raised the tuition to $15,000/yr, $60,000 for 4 years and that's for in state students. The total cost would be about $80K for 4 years. A kid could go to a junior college for 2 years and 2 years in a cheaper state school and get the total cost down $40K, but for so many kids that just as well be a million dollars.

Then there is problem of being accepted at a university. Due to limited number of seats for new students, in most states if you're not in the top 15% with a good SAT score, you won't qualify. When you consider that really poor kids usually go to rather poor schools with poor college prep classes, their chance of qualifying for a good college is at best poor. Add in the financial costs and there are very few poor kids that can make it.

Of course they can. They just have to work harder to make up for their shortcomings. I did it. I've known plenty of people who have done it too.

Here is where they fail. They go to college, maybe not a good college, get out and think that's it. Sink or swim, they put on the only lifejacket in the boat. To truly successful people, it NEVER stops. They never work at the job they have but the job they want. The ladder has no top step. That's what I have seen common among very successful people no matter what area they choose. Someone else might go to a not so good a college and get the best job that college education brings them. Then they go to another, better university, they advance, they get an advanced degree, but it can't stop there. There are workshops, seminars, classes, courses. It never stops for the truly successful.

I not only have seen, but am one of those that overcame the not great university with extensive post graduate training.

If you REALLY want a scholarship, go to work at a company that provides scholarships for willing employees. Wal Mart, Coca Cola, Ford, Home Depot. It's a VERY long list.

No one should use poverty as an excuse for failure.
At a time when there are a lot less jobs for high school graduates we are making it harder for them to get into college. The economic downturn appears to be having a particular impact on public institutions. Admissions directors across public institutions acknowledge new efforts to recruit full-pay students with more efforts placed on recruiting out of state students that pay higher tuitions.

We need more poorer kids going to college. If we don't, the income gap between the haves and have nots will continue to widen.

“Full-pay” undergraduates are priority “targets” across all public sector campus.
http://www.insidehighered.com/conte.../version/1/file/9-20finaladmissionsreport.pdf
 
Perhaps we all need clarification.

Do conservatives consider criminals the "poor"?

I consider criminals exactly what they are criminals. Those committing welfare fraud are criminals just like those that run Pozi schemes, also ,medicade and medicare fraud are committed by criminals as well.
What Conservative ever said that the poor were criminals? That's right...NONE. You operate from a false premise.

ba1614 in post number #94 of this thread. He described criminal fraud and then assigned it to the poor. Criminals are criminals.
Explain to me how the definition of "poor" got to be big screen tvs(plural), x-boxes, cell phones, 7 kids from 5 daddies, and asses as wide as a truck.

This is exactly what he typed.... you're either mentally challenged or just being a cement head.
 
What Conservative ever said that the poor were criminals? That's right...NONE. You operate from a false premise.

ba1614 in post number #94 of this thread. He described criminal fraud and then assigned it to the poor. Criminals are criminals.
Explain to me how the definition of "poor" got to be big screen tvs(plural), x-boxes, cell phones, 7 kids from 5 daddies, and asses as wide as a truck.

This is exactly what he typed.... you're either mentally challenged or just being a cement head.
Latter would be a sure bet.
 
Not everything in nature or about mankind leads to a bell curve.

I agree.

I also believe that wealth distribution in a large, healthy economy should lead to a nice bell curve. Anything else is unfair, by the definition of a bell curve.
 
We need more poorer kids going to college.


We need to continue to make college available to qualified, motivated students. Just sticking poor kids in college won't do shit by itself and could even do more harm than good.

Dropouts Loom Large for Schools - US News and World Report
I agree, however I think we need to do more to see that bright kids from poorer families get the education and financial resources needed for college. There is far less upward mobility in low earners than middle income earners and the primary reason is education.
 
NOt everything in nature or about mankind leads to a bell curve.

For those interested in a somewhat deeper exploration of this p[henomena?

VERY Interesting research indeed!
The funding bothers me. Before anyone gets a pole stuck, the funding doesn't bother me because of who funded it, but because the research/theory WILL be skewed to make the board happy and keep those dollars flowing to those who do the research.

THE MORDECHAI ZAGAGI FUND Director: Prof. Moshe (Shiki) Levy
The Mordechai Zagagi Fund was set up in 1988 to support research connected with Israel's capital market and to promote its growth and development. The Fund's Board, which includes faculty members of the School and representatives of Israel's business community, endeavors to broaden the interface between the School's finance faculty and the business community in Israel. It has sponsored important conferences on subjects related to capital markets and many research projects. The Fund co-sponsors a series of weekly seminars in Finance and Accounting, which hosts lecturers from the School and visiting academics from abroad. Over recent years the Zagagi Fund's research activity has focused on issues related to capital markets, accounting, banking, and corporate finance.
 
I also believe that wealth distribution in a large, healthy economy should lead to a nice bell curve. Anything else is unfair, by the definition of a bell curve.

That would be question begging.

economix-24percentilechart-custom1.jpg



Where Do You Fall on the Income Curve? - NYTimes.com
 
Of course your graph does not take into account taxes people pay and benefits that
they receive. What grouping size did they use ie was it per capita or was family unit size.

The real question is one of mobility between the classes

As our crony capitalist system is promoted through ever increasing gov't control
the chances become harder to move between the groups

While both parties are guilty of promoting such a system
The Democrats are served best by a permanent underclass that will vote for them

After all, once a man has a job a, pays taxes, they tend to vote for Republicans
more often

We must keep things in perspective :


If you are poor in America, as defined as an annual income of $22,314 for a family of four


80 percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, in 1970, only 36 percent of the U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.
92 percent of poor households have a microwave.
Nearly three-fourths have a car or truck, and 31 percent have two or more cars or trucks.
Nearly two-thirds have cable or satellite TV.
Two-thirds have at least one DVD player, and 70 percent have a VCR.
Half have a personal computer, and one in seven have two or more computers.
More than half of poor families with children have a video game system, such as an Xbox or PlayStation.
43 percent have Internet service.
40 percent have an automatic dishwasher.
One-third have a wide-screen plasma or LCD TV.
Around one-fourth have a digital video recorder, such as a TiVo.
More than half have a cell phone.



America’s poor live better than King Louis XIV
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One can see why the Democrats want to keep thing exactly the way they are......
 
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I also believe that wealth distribution in a large, healthy economy should lead to a nice bell curve. Anything else is unfair, by the definition of a bell curve.

That would be question begging.

It's not a question, begged or otherwise - it's a statistic.

Wealth distribution is a simple statistic that intelligent voters will use as one of the many factors when they decide if the American economy is indeed "skewed" next fall.
 
There has been a lot of talk in this country for years about the erosion of the middle class, however when I look at the income distribution in this country today I see that the income of the upper 50% of citizens is 87.3% of all the money earned in the country, and the income of the lower 50% is only 12.7%. There is in fact no middle class in America today; there is only us and them.

There are those who call this country is the land of opportunity, but as I live and breathe today I know without a doubt that this is a lie, it may have been true in the year 1900, but not having lived then I cannot say if it was just as much a lie in those days. The reality is there’s a glass ceiling in this nation at the 50% mark, if one is born above that line, one can have any opportunity under the sun and go as far as ones individual capabilities allow, but if one is born below that line ones only purpose in living so far as American society is concerned, is to work. And furthermore to work always for the benefit and profit of someone born above that 50% line.

Want your kids to go to college? Better be prepared to pay. Contrary to what the upper-class would have you believe federal student aid is of little use, the maximum a person of the lower class may receive is just over 30,000. This may sound like a significant amount to some, however in reality it will not even pay for an education at a state level university, to say nothing of the ivy league. Think your kids smart enough to earn a scholarship? Keep dreaming, the vast majority of scholarships offered are given to children from families who are already above that 50% line. Said scholarships are just given out as free benefits to coax kids with “the right breeding” in, or in some cases to help schools meet their minimum standards under affirmative action. Said scholarships will never go to a child from the lower 50% simply because of the kids own intellect. And as for that federal student aid money you can get, it will just about pay for community college, a degree that will get one nothing except a low level office job at best.

So in what other ways might the lower 50% “pull themselves up by the bootstraps” as republicans like to claim they should?

Want to be a movie star? Better be prepared to pay. The only way to get ones foot “in the door” of Hollywood is to pay an agent, an incredible expense that a performer just entering the field can’t hope to pay unless they are already members of the upper class, already born to that upper 50%. Without an agent, you won’t get laughed out of every studio in town, because you’ll never set foot in one.

Want to write a great movie? Same thing, better get an agent, and don’t think you can afford one unless you make over 100 grand a year already. Without an agent you will never sell a script in Hollywood, but take it from me, if your movies good enough you will darn well get it plagiarized in Hollywood, in fact you can get that in no time flat.

Want to write the great American novel? Better pay out the nose for an agent because without one no legitimate publisher in the country will look at your manuscript, unless it’s to allow an established writer from the upper 50% plagiarize you. Think you’re going to self-publish it? Dream on. The volume of material available for sale on amazon, kindle, and similar sites and services dictates that unless you pay out the nose for advertising, you will have zero sales.

Want to start any kind of business? Go give it a shot. While we have all heard the “success stories”, the reality is that such a small percentage of such ventures succeed as to make the real number of success’s insignificant. Of course good luck getting backing from the banks. The reality is if your born to the upper 50% like that idiot James O’Keefe, the banks will extend you a 50,000 dollar line of credit at the drop of a hat no matter how stupid your business model is, just like it did for him. But if you’re born to the lower 50%, good luck with the banks, No matter how good your business model is! Unlike the studios you will get the chance to be laughed out of every bank in town.

In the end it’s all a lie. If you’re born to the lower class, your sole purpose in this society is to work your ass off for the benefit of the upper class. Frankly I’m at the point where I would love nothing more than for a REAL class war to break out, because as far as I’m concerned that upper 50% can just kiss my fucking ass.

Do us all a favor and don't cheapen the word "slavery" just so you can kvetch and snivel because the world doesn't hand you your dreams on a silver platter and you're too big a loser to go out and get them yourself.
 

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