Liberals losing their minds -again- over something that hasn't happened.

Clementine

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The left is accusing Trump of banning people based on religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, creed, etc. There is no such language in the order. This is aimed at preventing terrorists from entering. The left obviously realizes the things many terrorists have in common and are assuming that those are listed in the order. They are not. We do need to improve our vetting process. It's insane to allow people in when there is little background information available. Allowing in mystery guests from countries known for being sponsors of terror is just plain stupid.

For the leaders of the extremists, this is all about the left pushing for open borders. The radical leftwing goons want to destroy America. They have a plan to take us down and they've been implementing it. They need to flood the U.S. with enough people to protest against our constitution and Bill of Rights. They need a majority of people willing to cede rights because they are convinced that they are in danger and need government to save them. All the protests are about unfounded fears and entitlements. Liberals want a society where government dictates what we can do or say and where no one has to work yet still has everything they need handed to them. The tyrants always make sure things start off with people having what they need. But, the money always runs out and people wallow in misery after that. Our schools have failed to teach today's students the truth about socialism and communism. Too many believe they are equal to utopia.

All the left's actions are geared toward achieving this one goal. One world government.

"Liberals are absolutely beside themselves that Trump would do something so terrible as enforce a racist “Muslim ban.”

Except he hasn’t. He’s trying to enforce a terrorist ban.

If you read the full text of the executive order, nowhere is the word Muslim included. Or Islam. Not once. However, there IS language that you’d think would make liberals cheer:

The United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry or hatred (including “honor” killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice religions different from their own) or those who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation.

Shut the front door! Hello liberals! Your president (who you can’t accept IS your president) wants to protect YOU from those “who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation.”

Is that a problem?

The ban on travel from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Libya, Yemen and Somalia is TEMPORARY, and designed to allow our officials to get better systems in place for vetting individuals from those countries. In addition, the Syrian refugee program will be halted, because we simply cannot at this time know who exactly we’re letting in.

The order requires Homeland Security to determine “the information needed from any country to adjudicate any visa, admission, or other benefit under the INA (adjudications) in order to determine that the individual seeking the benefit is who the individual claims to be and is not a security or public-safety threat.”

Furthermore, it puts the onus on other countries to work with the U.S. to provide sufficient documentation: “The Secretary of State shall request all foreign governments that do not supply such information to start providing such information regarding their nationals within 60 days of notification.”

But the order is not absolute, and allows for entry on a case-by-case basis: “The Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may, on a case-by-case basis, and when in the national interest, issue visas or other immigration benefits to nationals of countries for which visas and benefits are otherwise blocked.”

Oh yay. The Iranian filmmaker can pack his tux after all.

As usual, the liberal press (and liberals) fire up the dog whistle of “Muslim ban” and everyone goes apoplectic. Of course no one actually bothers to read the text of the order and its purpose. They hear what they want to hear.

Now on the other hand, we received an email from a reader who felt this order was misguided because:
The leading organizer of the Women’s March was the Palestinian-American activist Linda Sarsour and did not come from any of those countries. She and her groups lead the harassment of Jewish students on America College Campuses. She and her Hamas supporters are far more dangerous than our Kurdish allies.
Hamas supporters were not banned..

Hezbollah supporters were not banned…

Al-Qaida supporters from Saudi were not banned.

If he had banned supporters of terrorist organizations, it would have made sense, been understood and been effective.

Now there are gaping holes in the vetting… you don’t think a Shia from Lebanon with ties to Hezbollah is dangerous?

So perhaps Trump’s order did not go far enough. After all, the Boston Marathon bombers weren’t from any country on that list. Tashfeen Malik, came from Saudi Arabia via Pakistan.

If our vetting process is bad, it’s bad, period. But at least this order is acknowledging we have problems — particularly in countries where documentation is sketchy at best.

To our reader’s point, it was our own Homeland Security that improperly vetted Tashfeen Malik and failed to connect the dots on the Tsarnaev brothers — or even the Fort Lauderdale shooter, Esteban Santiago.

The monsters who carved up British soldier Lee Rigby in broad daylight were born in the United Kingdom and raised as Christians before they became radicalized.

This is a cancer that has already metastasized. But we have to start somewhere.

People are noticing ONE word MISSING from Trump’s visa ban
 
So we have another hissyfitter thread about someting that hasn't happened?
 
Uncle Ferd says, Yeah...

... one thing to keep in mind `bout dem lib'rals...

... dey get hysterical over the least lil' thing...

... an' den dey fly offa handle...

... a-fore dey get dey's facts straight...

... a whole lot like sop-heads an' womens do"
 
"Moratorium," a five syllable word, is also missing from the Executive Order, which is mostly concerned with visa application protection, actually. The suspension of actual right of entry--for people with issued visas--is not stated as an intent of the order, but gets included without any special conditions directly noted.
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"The visa-issuance process plays a crucial role in detecting individuals with terrorist ties and stopping them from entering the United States. . . .Deteriorating conditions in certain countries due to war, strife, disaster, and civil unrest increase the likelihood that terrorists will use any means possible to enter the United States. The United States must be vigilant during the visa-issuance process to ensure that those approved for admission do not intend to harm Americans and that they have no ties to terrorism."
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The mitigating circumstances, regarding any issuance of visas, probably create a lawful basis for the order. The order directly does not want to burden the USA with data verification in destroyed areas of any region. A "moratorium" on actual entry of someone in possession of the lawful document should have been included, providing a short-term review period of the visa issued. . .and Importantly: if able, or if even feasible.

Only certain Moslem areas are noted, and not the most populous, or the most friendly.

Liberals can understand that persons issued a draft deferment, say in the Vietnam Era, who proceeded accordingly: Would not have been inclined to get on the bus, sent off to the training camp, and shipped off to War: Had Nixon suddenly suspended all the deferments, that already had been issued--in the name of investigating the on-going process. People understanding legal draft evasion, from the era, do understand the creative application of the government's other obstacles, in fact. Back and forth many had to go.

The Republicans would have been mad at Lyndon Johnson. Rule of Law, famous "Law and Order," would have been cited.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred."
(Many White Eyes understand the "March" to the different Drummer.")
 

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