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LEAVE.What exactly are we supposed to do when the Catholic Church is turned topsy-turvy?
"Come out of her, My people!"
Those who stay are without excuse.
When God calls them I suspect most will
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LEAVE.What exactly are we supposed to do when the Catholic Church is turned topsy-turvy?
"Come out of her, My people!"
Those who stay are without excuse.
I don't believe he lies. He is basically saying that acting on homosexual urges is the sin (or missing the mark of ideal sexuality). Having homosexual urges but not acting on them is not a sin. Sure, everyone wants to watch their thoughts, that makes perfect sense. Having a thought and pushing it aside does not constitute wrong-doing.You LIE!
If a person commits a "sin," it is nobody else's business. According to the Christian narrative, an individual has to account to the Supreme Being only. It makes no sense to emphasize or criticize one "sin" over another, and certainly not in matters of civil public policy. This entire anti-LGBT thing is a hoax brought to us all by people who seek to abuse religion to justify their own sexual insecurities at someone else's expense.
An individual who has sex before he or she is married, or with someone other than his or her spouse, or divorces and marries another while the first spouse is still alive will, according to the Christian narrative, be judged in the afterlife, as will people who commit "sins" that have nothing to do with sex.
BTW: Wow. I didn't realize that Ratzinger (Benedict) and Timmy Dolan, the American Council of Bishops, and their ilk were "liberals." I'm glad I got out of the RC Church when I did so long ago, and before I learned what the RC hierarchy did during WWII and the disgraceful treatment of women in Ireland and elsewhere.
There is no such thing as "sin". What is this cultist nonsense....? Grow up, people.That I agree with. That's not what he said. Homisexuals dont have special permission to ACT on their lists in the eyes of God. They are free to marry (the OPPOSITE SEX), but acting on their list is SIN.I don't believe he lies. He is basically saying that acting on homosexual urges is the sin
Sorry shaman, your magical incantations hold no weight outside of your own mind.There is no such thing as "sin". What is this cultist nonsense....? Grow up, people.That I agree with. That's not what he said. Homisexuals dont have special permission to ACT on their lists in the eyes of God. They are free to marry (the OPPOSITE SEX), but acting on their list is SIN.I don't believe he lies. He is basically saying that acting on homosexual urges is the sin
"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." 1 john 1:8
What B.S. Even if there was some responsibility "to cry repentence to our fellow man and warn our neighbors," which there is none, when has this ever been done? Each person is responsible ONLY to the Creator, not to anyone else. Do you cry "repent" to trump? Pence? Someone who presents himself or herself to the marriage alter while not being sexually pure? What non-sexual "sins" do you cry "repent" about? How about guns and violence? Wars? Greed that results in the loss of life?If a person commits a "sin," it is nobody else's business. According to the Christian narrative, an individual has to account to the Supreme Being only. It makes no sense to emphasize or criticize one "sin" over another, and certainly not in matters of civil public policy. This entire anti-LGBT thing is a hoax brought to us all by people who seek to abuse religion to justify their own sexual insecurities at someone else's expense.
An individual who has sex before he or she is married, or with someone other than his or her spouse, or divorces and marries another while the first spouse is still alive will, according to the Christian narrative, be judged in the afterlife, as will people who commit "sins" that have nothing to do with sex.
BTW: Wow. I didn't realize that Ratzinger (Benedict) and Timmy Dolan, the American Council of Bishops, and their ilk were "liberals." I'm glad I got out of the RC Church when I did so long ago, and before I learned what the RC hierarchy did during WWII and the disgraceful treatment of women in Ireland and elsewhere.
I disagree.
We have a specific mandate to cry repentence to our fellow man and warn our neighbors.
In addition when a man sins, he is not the only one affected by it. Often his family suffers with him.
If a man commits the sin of murder, many are impacted.
Likewise if he sins with the powers to create life.
Life is sacred. We should respect how life enters and leaves this world
So much anger. So little understanding.What B.S. Even if there was some responsibility "to cry repentence to our fellow man and warn our neighbors," which there is none, when has this ever been done? Each person is responsible ONLY to the Creator, not to anyone else. Do you cry "repent" to trump? Pence? Someone who presents himself or herself to the marriage alter while not being sexually pure? What non-sexual "sins" do you cry "repent" about? How about guns and violence? Wars? Greed that results in the loss of life?If a person commits a "sin," it is nobody else's business. According to the Christian narrative, an individual has to account to the Supreme Being only. It makes no sense to emphasize or criticize one "sin" over another, and certainly not in matters of civil public policy. This entire anti-LGBT thing is a hoax brought to us all by people who seek to abuse religion to justify their own sexual insecurities at someone else's expense.
An individual who has sex before he or she is married, or with someone other than his or her spouse, or divorces and marries another while the first spouse is still alive will, according to the Christian narrative, be judged in the afterlife, as will people who commit "sins" that have nothing to do with sex.
BTW: Wow. I didn't realize that Ratzinger (Benedict) and Timmy Dolan, the American Council of Bishops, and their ilk were "liberals." I'm glad I got out of the RC Church when I did so long ago, and before I learned what the RC hierarchy did during WWII and the disgraceful treatment of women in Ireland and elsewhere.
I disagree.
We have a specific mandate to cry repentence to our fellow man and warn our neighbors.
In addition when a man sins, he is not the only one affected by it. Often his family suffers with him.
If a man commits the sin of murder, many are impacted.
Likewise if he sins with the powers to create life.
Life is sacred. We should respect how life enters and leaves this world
You are full of shit.
Liberals? In the church? A church that is against abortion?...now we have the Archbishop of Malta, the Pope's point man on sexual abuse, saying that homosexuality is part of God's plan and there's nothing wrong with it.
What that means is that the Catholic Church has been teaching error for 2000 years...
...or it means one of the Pope's most trusted men is a heretic.
It's bad either way.
What's a lay Catholic to do in the face of so much chaos within the ranks fo our clergy?
Do we attend Mass faithfully, put the money in the basket, and ask no questions?
What exactly are we supposed to do when the Catholic Church is turned topsy-turvy?
Even if being LGBT is a sexual sin unlike any other, purported according to these folks interpretation of the "Christian" faith, I would love to know how many of our posters actually actually were totally sexually inexperienced individuals when they made their vows and slipped a ring on their bride's or husband's finger. Repent! Repent! Get down on your knees and pray!
So much B.S.
I wish I could remember exactly the conversation I had with my own father in which he hemmed and hawed. I took it to mean that he was not a virgin when he married my mother.
Sorry shaman, your magical incantations hold no weight outside of your own mind.There is no such thing as "sin". What is this cultist nonsense....? Grow up, people.That I agree with. That's not what he said. Homisexuals dont have special permission to ACT on their lists in the eyes of God. They are free to marry (the OPPOSITE SEX), but acting on their list is SIN.I don't believe he lies. He is basically saying that acting on homosexual urges is the sin
"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." 1 john 1:8
What B.S. Even if there was some responsibility "to cry repentence to our fellow man and warn our neighbors," which there is none, when has this ever been done? Each person is responsible ONLY to the Creator, not to anyone else. Do you cry "repent" to trump? Pence? Someone who presents himself or herself to the marriage alter while not being sexually pure? What non-sexual "sins" do you cry "repent" about? How about guns and violence? Wars? Greed that results in the loss of life?If a person commits a "sin," it is nobody else's business. According to the Christian narrative, an individual has to account to the Supreme Being only. It makes no sense to emphasize or criticize one "sin" over another, and certainly not in matters of civil public policy. This entire anti-LGBT thing is a hoax brought to us all by people who seek to abuse religion to justify their own sexual insecurities at someone else's expense.
An individual who has sex before he or she is married, or with someone other than his or her spouse, or divorces and marries another while the first spouse is still alive will, according to the Christian narrative, be judged in the afterlife, as will people who commit "sins" that have nothing to do with sex.
BTW: Wow. I didn't realize that Ratzinger (Benedict) and Timmy Dolan, the American Council of Bishops, and their ilk were "liberals." I'm glad I got out of the RC Church when I did so long ago, and before I learned what the RC hierarchy did during WWII and the disgraceful treatment of women in Ireland and elsewhere.
I disagree.
We have a specific mandate to cry repentence to our fellow man and warn our neighbors.
In addition when a man sins, he is not the only one affected by it. Often his family suffers with him.
If a man commits the sin of murder, many are impacted.
Likewise if he sins with the powers to create life.
Life is sacred. We should respect how life enters and leaves this world
Can you say that you presented yourself to the marriage altar as a pure virgin individual?
I think that you are full of shit.
She doesn't understand the word "repent". The left calls on normal people to "repent" all the time, and join them in their twisted world viewWhat B.S. Even if there was some responsibility "to cry repentence to our fellow man and warn our neighbors," which there is none, when has this ever been done? Each person is responsible ONLY to the Creator, not to anyone else. Do you cry "repent" to trump? Pence? Someone who presents himself or herself to the marriage alter while not being sexually pure? What non-sexual "sins" do you cry "repent" about? How about guns and violence? Wars? Greed that results in the loss of life?If a person commits a "sin," it is nobody else's business. According to the Christian narrative, an individual has to account to the Supreme Being only. It makes no sense to emphasize or criticize one "sin" over another, and certainly not in matters of civil public policy. This entire anti-LGBT thing is a hoax brought to us all by people who seek to abuse religion to justify their own sexual insecurities at someone else's expense.
An individual who has sex before he or she is married, or with someone other than his or her spouse, or divorces and marries another while the first spouse is still alive will, according to the Christian narrative, be judged in the afterlife, as will people who commit "sins" that have nothing to do with sex.
BTW: Wow. I didn't realize that Ratzinger (Benedict) and Timmy Dolan, the American Council of Bishops, and their ilk were "liberals." I'm glad I got out of the RC Church when I did so long ago, and before I learned what the RC hierarchy did during WWII and the disgraceful treatment of women in Ireland and elsewhere.
I disagree.
We have a specific mandate to cry repentence to our fellow man and warn our neighbors.
In addition when a man sins, he is not the only one affected by it. Often his family suffers with him.
If a man commits the sin of murder, many are impacted.
Likewise if he sins with the powers to create life.
Life is sacred. We should respect how life enters and leaves this world
Can you say that you presented yourself to the marriage altar as a pure virgin individual?
I think that you are full of shit.
Literally all the time. Every week christians are calling people to repentence in church. They are inviting their friends and sometimes even their enemies to join them.
And then there are missionaries who are doing that on a full time basis
She doesn't understand the word "repent". The left calls on normal people to "repent" all the time, and join them in their twisted world viewWhat B.S. Even if there was some responsibility "to cry repentence to our fellow man and warn our neighbors," which there is none, when has this ever been done? Each person is responsible ONLY to the Creator, not to anyone else. Do you cry "repent" to trump? Pence? Someone who presents himself or herself to the marriage alter while not being sexually pure? What non-sexual "sins" do you cry "repent" about? How about guns and violence? Wars? Greed that results in the loss of life?If a person commits a "sin," it is nobody else's business. According to the Christian narrative, an individual has to account to the Supreme Being only. It makes no sense to emphasize or criticize one "sin" over another, and certainly not in matters of civil public policy. This entire anti-LGBT thing is a hoax brought to us all by people who seek to abuse religion to justify their own sexual insecurities at someone else's expense.
An individual who has sex before he or she is married, or with someone other than his or her spouse, or divorces and marries another while the first spouse is still alive will, according to the Christian narrative, be judged in the afterlife, as will people who commit "sins" that have nothing to do with sex.
BTW: Wow. I didn't realize that Ratzinger (Benedict) and Timmy Dolan, the American Council of Bishops, and their ilk were "liberals." I'm glad I got out of the RC Church when I did so long ago, and before I learned what the RC hierarchy did during WWII and the disgraceful treatment of women in Ireland and elsewhere.
I disagree.
We have a specific mandate to cry repentence to our fellow man and warn our neighbors.
In addition when a man sins, he is not the only one affected by it. Often his family suffers with him.
If a man commits the sin of murder, many are impacted.
Likewise if he sins with the powers to create life.
Life is sacred. We should respect how life enters and leaves this world
Can you say that you presented yourself to the marriage altar as a pure virgin individual?
I think that you are full of shit.
Literally all the time. Every week christians are calling people to repentence in church. They are inviting their friends and sometimes even their enemies to join them.
And then there are missionaries who are doing that on a full time basis
....now we have the Archbishop of Malta, the Pope's point man on sexual abuse, saying that homosexuality is part of God's plan and there's nothing wrong with it.
What that means is that the Catholic Church has been teaching error for 2000 years...
...or it means one of the Pope's most trusted men is a heretic.
It's bad either way.
What's a lay Catholic to do in the face of so much chaos within the ranks fo our clergy?
Do we attend Mass faithfully, put the money in the basket, and ask no questions?
What exactly are we supposed to do when the Catholic Church is turned topsy-turvy?
Keep following Jesus
What that means is that the Catholic Church has been teaching error for 2000 years...
Keep following Jesus
She doesn't understand the word "repent". The left calls on normal people to "repent" all the time, and join them in their twisted world viewWhat B.S. Even if there was some responsibility "to cry repentence to our fellow man and warn our neighbors," which there is none, when has this ever been done? Each person is responsible ONLY to the Creator, not to anyone else. Do you cry "repent" to trump? Pence? Someone who presents himself or herself to the marriage alter while not being sexually pure? What non-sexual "sins" do you cry "repent" about? How about guns and violence? Wars? Greed that results in the loss of life?If a person commits a "sin," it is nobody else's business. According to the Christian narrative, an individual has to account to the Supreme Being only. It makes no sense to emphasize or criticize one "sin" over another, and certainly not in matters of civil public policy. This entire anti-LGBT thing is a hoax brought to us all by people who seek to abuse religion to justify their own sexual insecurities at someone else's expense.
An individual who has sex before he or she is married, or with someone other than his or her spouse, or divorces and marries another while the first spouse is still alive will, according to the Christian narrative, be judged in the afterlife, as will people who commit "sins" that have nothing to do with sex.
BTW: Wow. I didn't realize that Ratzinger (Benedict) and Timmy Dolan, the American Council of Bishops, and their ilk were "liberals." I'm glad I got out of the RC Church when I did so long ago, and before I learned what the RC hierarchy did during WWII and the disgraceful treatment of women in Ireland and elsewhere.
I disagree.
We have a specific mandate to cry repentence to our fellow man and warn our neighbors.
In addition when a man sins, he is not the only one affected by it. Often his family suffers with him.
If a man commits the sin of murder, many are impacted.
Likewise if he sins with the powers to create life.
Life is sacred. We should respect how life enters and leaves this world
Can you say that you presented yourself to the marriage altar as a pure virgin individual?
I think that you are full of shit.
Literally all the time. Every week christians are calling people to repentence in church. They are inviting their friends and sometimes even their enemies to join them.
And then there are missionaries who are doing that on a full time basis
Man can change. Isnt that amazing?
There is nothing wrong with people being gay and it is nobody’s business
There is no such thing as "sin". What is this cultist nonsense....? Grow up, people.That I agree with. That's not what he said. Homisexuals dont have special permission to ACT on their lists in the eyes of God. They are free to marry (the OPPOSITE SEX), but acting on their list is SIN.I don't believe he lies. He is basically saying that acting on homosexual urges is the sin