Let's talk about God

Discussion in 'Religion and Ethics' started by MissileMan, Sep 29, 2004.

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    A question for the religious folks who use this forum: Do you believe that everything that happens is God's will and part of God's grand design?
     
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    I'm not very religious in th conventional sense, but I think that that is what belief in God is about. Otherwise, why is he The Almighty?
     
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    God 'knows' things will happen; he doesn't always 'cause' them to happen.
     
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    If he "caused" us to be here, shouldn't we assume he causes alot of other things to happen?
     
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    I mean that insomuch as:

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    "God Knew I'd marry my wife, Mary (who is hot). He did NOT 'choose' Mary for me."

    "God 'knew' the hostages in Iraq would be killed. He did not 'cause' them to be killed."

    Yeah - God doesn't 'force' us to do anything...he knows what we will do because he 'caused' us to exist. :)
     
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    And you know this.......................how?
    For the sake of argument.
     
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    So was your marriage to Mary part of a grand design or not? Was the beheading of innocent civilians in Iraq part of a grand design or not? Are you saying that God is omniscient and not omnipotent?
     
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    There lies the rub. :duh3:
     
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    I notice that when you spoke of religions you assumed that every religious person believes in a one Centralized God.

    I am a recently converted Theravada Buddhist, Theravada Buddhism does not deal with "god" but with your life at this time. While there are many Buddhist who believe in a Diety, it isn't necessarily the same type or have the same function as the Diety that you speak of in your original post.

    Please be specific as to which religions you speak of, the question may cause some confusion.
     
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    The statement would say neither. The assumption is that an omnipotent God has chosen to allow you free will, therefore your choice to marry somebody would be known by his omniscience, but if it didn't fit his plan for you he would allow you to make your own mistake. Interesting philosophical question, however you make the same mistake as many others. You have put natural limits upon something that is supernatural.


    God could be both and still allow for conditions to set his plan in motion if here were omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent. One push at the beginning could simply be all that was needed.
     

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